Archive for Friday, November 6, 2009
Emergency crews respond to multiple injury, car versus motorcycle accident
A motorcycle lays on its side after a collision with a vehicle Friday at the intersection of Kansas Highway 10 and the Lecompton exit of eastbound I-70. Two people were taken to area hospitals.
November 6, 2009, 5:48 p.m. Updated November 7, 2009, 9:52 p.m.
Accident leaves two in critical condition
An auto accident between a car and motorcycle left two people in critical condition Friday evening. Neither of the two motorcycle riders were wearing helmets. Enlarge video
Emergency crews respond to car versus motorcycle accident
Crews from Lawrence Douglas County Fire and Medical as well as Wakarusa Township Fire responded to a two-injury car versus motorcycle accident in the area of the intersection between the Kansas Turnpike and the South Lawrence Trafficway in West Lawrence. Enlarge video
Crews from Lawrence-Douglas County Fire Medical and the Lecompton Township Fire Department were called to the Kansas Turnpike exit at the South Lawrence Trafficway about 5:35 p.m. Friday for a collision in which a motorcycle struck a car.
Both the late model four-door Mazda, driven by 21-year-old Karissa Pinegar, of Lawrence, and the red motorcycle sustained significant damage in the crash, according to an eyewitness report.
Two 21-year-old men, Matthew Smith, of Lawrence, and Jason Kenney, of Lecompton, were on the motorcycle, and both were seriously injured, Fire Medical Division Chief Rob Kort said. Neither man was wearing a helmet, according to the Kansas Highway Patrol.
According to KHP, the motorcycle was southbound on the roadway when the car, which was northbound, failed to yield when turning into the eastbound turnpike entrance. Pinegar was not transported but listed by KHP as having possible injuries
Smith was taken by ambulance to Stormont-Vail Regional Health Center in Topeka. Kenney was taken by ambulance to Lawrence Memorial Hospital and received brief treatment there, in order to stabilize his condition, and then was transferred into another ambulance and taken to Kansas University Hospital in Kansas City, Kan.
Both victims were in critical condition Friday night, Kort said.
Emergency crews requested that two helicopter ambulances be dispatched to the scene, but none was available. The LifeStar helicopter based in Lawrence was refueling out of town, and a second air ambulance was unavailable because of a shift change, Kort said.
Condition updates for the two men were not available as of Saturday evening.
A previous version of this story incorrectly stated which township fire department was dispatched to the accident scene.
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spammer89 (Anonymous) says…
This is horrible just drove by does not look good. I hope everybody is okay, but i have my doubts.
6 November 2009
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puddleglum (Anonymous) says…
just drove by…hope everybody is okay.
6 November 2009
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GardenMomma (Anonymous) says…
I hope the two of you who posted that you “just drove by” are not driving as you are commenting on this. It would be horrible to have another accident.
I sure hope everyone is going to be all right.
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greenworld (Anonymous) says…
Emergency crews requested two emergency helicopters be dispatched to the scene, however none were immediately available.
None were available? This is not a good sign. I would transport patients to LMH and then lifeflight them from there if needed. Surely these guys arent just sitting around waiting.
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greenworld (Anonymous) says…
This is at the Lecompton exit at I70 and K10. Im listening to it on my radio. Dont know any injury updates at this time.
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Multidisciplinary (Anonymous) says…
Had the clocks not turned back…awfully dark, too early.
6 November 2009
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gccs14r (Anonymous) says…
The other part of that, Multi, is that people already don't look for motorcycles, and even people who might otherwise look for them have quit looking by Halloween.
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midwestmom (Anonymous) says…
any descriptions of vehicles involved?
6 November 2009
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was_freashpowder2 (Alexander Neighbors) says…
yea it was a small to medium size car and then it was a motorcycle and the 2 vehicles were going opposite directions while trying to occupy the same space at the same time.
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mmcalli (Anonymous) says…
I was there shortly after the accident occurred I think. I called 911 at 5:35, stayed to help, and finally, ten minutes later, you could hear sirens. Ambulances started arriving about three minutes later. That was a long time to watch people laying there, not moving.
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midwestmom (Anonymous) says…
Does that make you feel smart, funny? What Alex? I'm worried about a loved one - looking to find out the color of the motorcycle. I can cite the actual 'law' about 2 objects not occupying the same space in time - can you?
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yankeevet (Anonymous) says…
motorcycles; nothing but death waiting too happen….
6 November 2009
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Jane (Anonymous) says…
car *versus* motorcycle? Surely there is a better way to state this than some kind of quasi sporting event…
best wishes to those involved.
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GardenMomma (Anonymous) says…
Oh my! Is that the motorcycle UNDER the car? I sure hope that everyone is going to be all right. Good thoughts to all involved.
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greenworld (Anonymous) says…
I heard on my radio the initial page go out and five Lecompton responders got paged out followed by LFD. I didnt hear the Wakarusa Township Firefighters get paged. Maybe they are part of the LFD page IDK.
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greenworld (Anonymous) says…
11th and Tenn-motor vehicle accident 7:22
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greenworld (Anonymous) says…
There was one earliar at Orchard Lane off Iowa, motor vehicle. God people slow the F down.
6 November 2009
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tumbilweed (Anonymous) says…
Multi- it would be this dark anyway at this time even if we didn't change the clocks at all as we are back on standard time now. :)
6 November 2009
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livetocook (Anonymous) says…
Multi-
South Park has recently aired an episode aiming to change or add to the definition of a certain word. Here is a clue. Begins with an F and ends with a G. They were targeting Harley 'Riders.' Maybe someday the definition will be: F_G- Multidisciplinary.
6 November 2009
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bigmike (Anonymous) says…
Poor planning to do a Shift change while the other bird is out of town on a refuel. Hope it didn't cost someone their life!
There is always so much discussion about flying everyone to Topeka and Kc because we don't have a sufficient trauma center, I for one think it's time LMH steps up to the plate and upgrades the ER to handle a real trauma!
Most of all, I hope my fellow motorcyclists will be ok!!!
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brandy_is_guilty (Anonymous) says…
Multi says — “Had the clocks not turned back…awfully dark, too early.”
This is the single dumbest comment in the history of message boards. By a landslide.
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Jane (Anonymous) says…
brandy_is_guilty: New here?
6 November 2009
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brandy_is_guilty (Anonymous) says…
Just calling it how I see it.
6 November 2009
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frisbeenation (Anonymous) says…
Another awful local incident. Too many of these lately. My heart goes out those involved who were injured and their friends and family. When I read that helicopters were unavailable I nearly wept. Sad, sad, sad stuff around here lately.
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Multidisciplinary (Anonymous) says…
Well this is interesting.
My time comment had nothing to do with both side of the time changes. It only had to do with this recent one, and that if the accident had occurred with the time set as before, there would have been some more light out there during a busy drive time at that area.
It wasn't a slam at daylight savings, it wasn't a call to arms. It was a simple notation of coincidence that perhaps had the time not changed until say, this weekend, this might not have happened.
And you are so right about me livetocook. I love men! Men men men. The more the merrier. AND I've got friends that have been written up in GLAAD! Doesn't that just burst your bubble?
Oh, the things I could tell you…
And I'll tell you something better yet. I've been had by men who own several hogs, not just one. Leather, chaps, tall black boots all shiny and slick.
Now troddle off to your kitchen and behave. This is a place to worry about this rider, the driver of the car, and their families.
Not for you to gay bash, and hog bash.
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gsxr600 (Anonymous) says…
No helmets? That's not a good sign. Best wishes. Stay alert people!
6 November 2009
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gsxr600 (Anonymous) says…
Midwestmom: ~2006ish red Mazda 3 sedan.
7 November 2009
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mike_blur (Mike Blur) says…
The Mazda driver: 21 yo white female, with a surname that I've recognized locally from decades ago.
Could improper cell phone use have played a role in this accident?
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PLKaws23 (Anonymous) says…
Both men on the motorcycle, a 21 year old from lecompton and a 21 year old from tonganoxie, are in critical condition at KU med. One has severe head trama along with other injuries and was in surgery shortly after 9. The other was later life flighted to KU Med with injuries to his leg, in hopes of preventing amputation.
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spammer89 (Anonymous) says…
As an avid motorcycle rider that has seen it all. This the reason I support a mandatory helemt law. I have been riding for over 20 years and never once have I rode even for a short distance with out a helmet. I do hope they all make it through this.
7 November 2009
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somebodynew (Anonymous) says…
Multi - I always knew I loved you. Now you have just confirmed it with that last post.
Hope everyone recovers.
7 November 2009
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Valkyrie (Anonymous) says…
I started riding motorcycles in the summer of 1966 and have been riding them ever since. Do I wear a helemt? YES!!!! Back in 1971 I had an old woman run a stop light and I T-boned her car on a Triumph. No hemet. I hit the curb head first and spent a week in ICU. Since then, I won't ride around the block without a helmet. Since there is no helmet law in Kansas few riders heed the saftey of a helmet. It is a know fact that asphalt is much harder than the human skull. Hope the best for the two riders in this accident.
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RoeDapple (Anonymous) says…
cjonline is now listing names of all involved if you have a need to know…
7 November 2009
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parrothead8 (Anonymous) says…
Best wishes for those involved.
It seems odd that the Lifestar helicopter based in Lawrence has to go out of town to refuel. Don't we have an airport in Lawrence? Don't helicopters fly in and out of there? What do they do for fuel?
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Fueldrum (Nick Combs) says…
I'm an avid rider, commuting 60 miles a day on two-wheels. I firmly believe in wearing as much protective gear as possible at all times. Minimum riding gear includes long thick denim pants, full-face helmet, armored kevlar jacket, kevlar gloves, and ankle covering boots. Doesn't matter if I'm going to the store or riding 100 miles, same gear all the time.
That said, I am 100% against a mandatory helmet law. Personal freedom means the freedom to make stupid decisions and to make decisions people might disagree with. I'd bet that very few riders would disagree that they're safer with a helmet, but many make the choice not to wear them for a variety of reasons, some accurate, most not. Regardless, it is not the state/government's place to make that decision for them or anybody else.
BUT, just to further clarify, I feel for the families of the riders. Riding without a helmet/protective gear is a very selfish and stupid thing to do. As much as I disagree with the rider's choices to ride without them and am saddened they're injured, it was their choice to do so and their choice to accept the risks that come along with that decision.
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notjustastudent (Anonymous) says…
Fueldrum has a point- the mandatory eye protection is necessary because a motorcyclist suddenly blinded by something can be dangerous to other drivers, but one without a helmet is a danger to themselves only (then again if they're dumb enough not to wear one, maybe there are other things they are dumb about.) I'm glad there are those who have learned their leasons about wearing a helmet, but for everyone one of us that does, it seems there are two that don't. I, for one, wish there was a law against stupid, but that just isnt possible in this world…
I do hope everyone is OK, and it still angers me that this had to happen to anybody.
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Boston_Corbett (Anonymous) says…
Fueldrum: “Regardless, it is not the state/government's place to make that decision for them…..”
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So long as you expect others (including government and other insureds) support to pay for the long term costs of head trauma and injury, I disagree.
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Fueldrum (Nick Combs) says…
Boston-
I don't expect somebody else's insurance to pay for it. It's my responsibility to either maintain adequate coverage as a motorcycle rider to handle any accident(read: higher than a non-rider), or be self-insured through prudent investment and years of saving.
But insurance is a discussion for another thread.
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Boston_Corbett (Anonymous) says…
Fueldrum: There are floors and floors occupied in long term rehabilitation hospitals filled with your good intentions, on my dime.
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hellsbasement (Anonymous) says…
hey LJWorld, how about an update?
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Boston_Corbett (Anonymous) says…
Fueldrum: “Regardless, it is not the state/government's place to make that decision for them…..”
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So long as you expect others (including government and other insureds) support to pay for the long term costs of head trauma and injury, I disagree.
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The problem is, not wearing a helmet is pretty low on the list of “what injures / kills most americans” When you start looking at the big picture, heart disease, obesity, etc are orders of magnitude larger.
So maybe we should have government in your living room to make sure you're eating healthy, exercising regularly, not drinking, smoking or doing anything else which might be a burden on society.
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Irish (Irish Swearingen) says…
statute:
Chapter 8. Automobiles and Other Vehicles. Article 15. Uniform Act Regulating Traffic; Rules of the Road, Special Rules for Motorcycles. Section 8-1598. Operation of motorcycles; equipment required for operators and riders. :
“(a) No person under the age of 18 years shall operate or ride upon a motorcycle or a motorized bicycle, unless wearing a helmet which complies with minimum performance requirements established by the national highway traffic safety administration pursuant to the national traffic and motor vehicle safety act of 1966 for helmets designed for use by motorcyclists and other motor vehicle users.”
FINE:
The fine for not wearing a helmet is $52, first offense.
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midwestmom (Anonymous) says…
gsxr600 - Thanks very much! Shortly after my request last night for additional information - heard from errant (late arriving) motorcycle riding adult child.
Thank you again!!
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9070811 (Anonymous) says…
Oh Karissa, such a good girl, I'm sorry she's in this situation.
7 November 2009
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bigmike (Anonymous) says…
Who wants to bet she was jacking with her cell phone!
7 November 2009
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Pywacket (Anonymous) says…
Yes, bm, we get it: The first recorded automobile accident took place about a month after the first cell phones hit the market. Before that time, it was driving utopia, with nary a death or injury ever occurring due to operator error. Oh, for the good old days of the 80s and before—when the only “highway statistics” concerned how many safe and happy miles were traveled by keenly attentive, awake, and responsible driving aces.
I (for one) grow weary of all the kneejerk comments that are spewed forth long before any facts have been released on a particular collision.
When someone's cell phone use is shown to have been a factor in an accident, then by all means we should express strong disapproval. It is a problem that deserves public outcry—but (news flash) there are a few other reasons people cause wrecks.
The way people are so smugly certain of cell phone implication, you would think that they'd never heard of an accident being caused by inattention (daydreaming?), fatigue, conversation with a passenger, fiddling with the radio (a lipstick, a map, food, a drink, an iPod, etc), tending to or turning around to look at a screaming kid, screwing around with a damned cigarette, gawking at something outside the car, dealing with a dog that is bounding around loose in the car, etc., etc., etc.
Can we once in a while wait until we know the cause before starting the mindless mantra of “bet she was jacking with her cell phone”?
I'm relatively certain that your hearty little “bet” will do nothing to help the victims recover. Best wishes to them and their families.
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garyr (Anonymous) says…
ahhhhh…..an article about an accident, and no Roger or Donald on here yet….nice. I, for one, am glad they're gone.
7 November 2009
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GardenMomma (Anonymous) says…
I was at a stop light the other day and during the time it took for my light to turn green I saw seven people drive by with a cell phone on their ear and one young man drive by with his eyes down looking at something in his hand - I can only surmise that he was texting or reading a text. It certainly looked like he was texting.
7 November 2009
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hillbilly_jim (Anonymous) says…
Are you sure it wasn't something else in his hand?
7 November 2009
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cheeseburger (Anonymous) says…
If it was you she saw, it probably was!
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karebear (Anonymous) says…
Well, here is the update for all of you that wanted to know. Both are still in the hospital. I know what is going on with Jason since he is my friend as far as Matt goes I will let you know what I know but keep in mind I live in a small town and rumors are abundant. Jason is doing better than expected. He had a fractured skull, bleeding in his brain, bruised lungs, cracked ribs, and a compound fracture in his femur. They did surgery on his leg and everything seems to be looking good there. They stabilized pressure in his brain and they are trying to treat that the best they can. The doctors were worried about brain damage but they tested yesterday and he does have brain activity so as of now, not brain dead. They are trying to keep track of his hearing…they believe he may have some hearing loss so they are keeping a really close eye on it. They have moved him into his own room as of now and friends may get to see him within the next few days. As far as Matt. Was stable at the hospital Friday night and he did have extensive surgery on his leg to repair the damage. As far As I knew they had repaired it and everything looked promising. Now as far as the rumor mill goes I also heard this morning that the repair did not work so they had to amputate it. Please take that with a grain of salt… But as far as I know both guys are stable and I will try to keep updating. Thanks for all of your concerns.
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Pywacket (Anonymous) says…
Karebear~ Thank you for your update. Sometimes we are just left to wonder what happens to accident victims. Not the LJW's fault—hospitals understandably cannot give out much (or any) info… but it does leave a lot of concerned people wondering.
Best wishes for the recovery of both men. Very serious injuries, indeed, but it sounds as if they have a good chance.