Archive for Wednesday, May 27, 2009

First city band concert of summer canceled

May 27, 2009


Lawrence City Band's first concert of the summer has been canceled because of inclement weather.

Duane Peterson, the city's parks and recreation special event supervisor, said the wet ground and cool weather would postpone the return of the concerts to South Park until next week. The band plans to play next Wednesday, June 3, from 8 p.m. to 9 p.m.

The concerts are free and open to the public, and will be each Wednesday through July 15.


Liberty275 8 years, 9 months ago

Its too cold outside anyway. Thanks global warming... not.

Sean Livingstone 8 years, 9 months ago

"Pywacket (Anonymous) says… The effects of human-caused climate change (aka “global warming) include spikes and (more importantly) will cause the mean temperature to rise over a period of time. Thus— the mean temperature in 2008 was higher than the mean temperature in 1998—and it's steadily rising.

It does not mean (as simpletons erroneously state when trying to deny reality) that every day of the year is sweltering or that we never have unseasonably cool weather."

So why can't the meterologists predict the weather more accurately in real time (aka now and tomorrow) but the climate scientists can better predict the weather for the next 50 years? In short, the accuracy of temperature prediction is less than 50% accurate most of the time, but the climatologists can actually predict 1 degree rise in temperature for the next 3 years.... or both groups are using different sets of knowledge and skills? So if both are using the same sets of knowledge and skills, then, the meterologists should be able to predict the weather for tomorrow by an accuracy of +/- 2 degree.... but if the meterologists and the climatologists use different sets of knowledge and skills, then why aren't the meterologists not using what the climatologists have so that we can get better temperature predictions? Can someone educate me?

KansasPerson 8 years, 9 months ago

No concert. Major bummage.

Oh well, there's next week.....

Sean Livingstone 8 years, 9 months ago

"vertigo (Jesse Crittenden) says…

Funny, I checked the 10 day weather forecast last Friday before heading to the lake. It said Tuesday would be unseasonable chilly with a high around 66 degrees. Actual high for Tuesday was 65 degrees… hmm seems pretty accurate to me. What was your question again?"

Well, I think it's funny that you assumed that I'm one of those disputers or agreers if I ask those questions. My question is similar to your answer, except that you inject more questions to your answer. Yeap, Tuesday is unreasonably chilly, around 66, and it turned out 65. Last Friday, the weatherman prediction and actual differ by 5 degree. Sure there are differences, and we all appreciate that. But the climatologists and the meterologist have not integrate their sciences apparently, because climate change will result in 1 degree increase in global temperature... with reference point to what?

The climate model that they develop is based on continuous warming. However, as I understand, a recent study shows that there might be continuous cooling, i.e. alongside global warming, global cooling theory exists. However, their model fails to address the potential cooling, and temperature rises every year for the next 50 years. Of course, there will be times when the earth is hotter, and there will be times when the earth is cooler. That variance has not been included in the model. So all you see in their simulated model is continuous heating, and bright red orange, yet, there should be years when the color orange should lighten, and not continue to go brighter.

In that sense, their models are incorrect as they failed to address certain accurate behavior of the weather.

I didn't write these, someone wrote a paper, and the paper didn't dispute climate change, but simply pointed out that the model isn't as accurate as it should be because the theory of global cooling and even the expansion of permafrost exists..., and this person, is one of the scientists that didn't dispute climate change. Because of this paper, he's blacklisted and his paper is rejected. Have scientists gone mad? I thought criticism and alternative theories are what scientists are supposed to do? When I dispute the validity of a model, does that makes me a climate change disputer? Or agreer? I think that's no longer a science if we take stand too quickly.

Probably like yourself....

Sean Livingstone 8 years, 9 months ago


I read that paper, and I didn't understand Meteorology. So my question in this blog is to ask someone to better educate me, by pointing to some links etc... so that I can validate whether what he has published is right or wrong. And I got your posting, that pushes me to the edge. You assume too much, my friend. If the Meteorologist understands the Climatologists, then, both should agree on the prediction of weather, and thus, both could accurately predict the temperature by +/- 0.01 degree. As a scientist, if I develop something that can contain an error of 1% in the long run, then my tolerance for error in the short term should be less than 1/100th of a percent. Unless, both are not using the same models.

If you don't know the topic well enough, I suggest that you refrain from answering my posting.


just_another_bozo_on_this_bus 8 years, 9 months ago

A good starting place, livingstone, is to review the difference between "weather" and "climate."

weather |ˈweðər| noun the state of the atmosphere at a place and time as regards heat, cloudiness, dryness, sunshine, wind, rain, etc. : if the weather's good, we can go for a walk.

climate |ˈklīmit| noun the weather conditions prevailing in an area in general or over a long period : our cold, wet climate | agricultural development is constrained by climate.

Sean Livingstone 8 years, 9 months ago

just_another_bozo_on_this_bus, of course, it's not hard to check the dictionary. But I'm looking for the techniques they use to predict temperature. I wonder why climatologists can predict temperature so accurately, yet meteorologists cannot....

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