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Federal magistrate orders Yellow House owner into custody

May 21, 2009

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A federal magistrate judge has revoked the bond of a Lawrence man who sent a blast e-mail last month criticizing federal prosecutors and Lawrence police officers.

U.S. Magistrate Judge James P. O’Hara ruled that Guy M. Neighbors, an owner of the Yellow House Store, 1904 Mass., posed a threat of “continued criminal defamation of government counsel and witnesses.” Neighbors made statements in the e-mail that accused prosecutors and police of corruption in the stolen-goods case against him.

“Despite being specifically and repeatedly warned both by the court and defense counsel about such conduct being improper, defendant persists,” O’Hara wrote in his court order.

Neighbors and his wife, Carrie Neighbors, also an owner of the secondhand store, are accused of selling stolen goods and face 19 charges of wire fraud, conspiracy and money laundering in the 2007 case. They also have two other cases pending, one accusing them of manufacturing marijuana and a second of obstructing a theft investigation.

Trial is scheduled for October.

Guy and Carrie Neighbors for more than three years have maintained their innocence. Until last year, they frequently used Internet blogs as a forum in which they were outspoken critics of federal prosecutors, Marietta Parker and Terra Morehead, and Lawrence police officers. But prosecutors have repeatedly said many of the allegations from the defendants are false and are meant to intimidate witnesses from testifying against them.

The two sides reached an agreement last year not to discuss the case publicly outside court, and O’Hara had rejected calls from prosecutors several times to revoke Guy Neighbors’ bond.

Guy Neighbors sent an e-mail to several addresses on April 22, including to the Federal Bureau of Investigation’s Kansas City, Mo., field office, that accused prosecutors and Lawrence police officers to have acted “in a pattern of conspiracy and cover-up.” In a written court motion, Parker said that the allegations were false and that evidence presented at a hearing in 2008 proved it.

O’Hara also denied a motion to have Guy Neighbors undergo a mental health evaluation. But in the written order that Neighbors be held in federal custody, O’Hara said Neighbors might have “delusions” or strongly held opinions that prosecutors and witnesses were “conspiring against him.”

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  1. somebodynew (anonymous) says…

    Get ready boys and girls, here we go - ready to blast off on a new and fun filled adventure !!! I just wonder what the total posts will be on this one.

  2. Jaylee (anonymous) says…

    well, hopefully, this shuts him up.

    we could be on here debating around about obama, the economy, Lawrence schools, the weather and he'd slip a 3-scroll post about how he was wronged.

    we all knew before you even posted, guy. your tattered sense of legitimacy was a fabrication. let it go.

  3. Practicality (anonymous) says…

    Lordy, lordy, lordy.

    Crime doesn't pay people.

  4. 75x55 (anonymous) says…

    '...might have “delusions” '

    Judge might be onto something there.

  5. just_another_bozo_on_this_bus (anonymous) says…

    " manufacturing marijuana"

    I can see where somebody might be charged with manufacturing hashish, but shouldn't the correct word here be "cultivating?"

  6. Coach_Eric (anonymous) says…

    I try to not laugh at the misfortune that befalls others...but I may just make an exception in this case!

  7. maxcrabb (anonymous) says…

    The worse part is I don't even have the energy to tell people around me why I sighed so heavily in reaction to this story.

    (I lied and told them I was sad about my dog growing old...)

  8. cheeseburger (anonymous) says…

    And it's now time once again for Alexander, a.k.a. was_freashpowder2, to come to the defense of his bogusly-charged parents (ha!). C'mon Alex, I figured you would have posted by now!

  9. ibroke (anonymous) says…

    this tells me not to disagree with town hall--- it might be hate thoughts! you know what the penalty for that is !!!

  10. lawrenceguy40 (anonymous) says…

    In India they won't let you marry outside your cast.

  11. rdragon (M. Lindeman) says…

    Ah come on people, lets not lie to ourselves. The Neighbors have been for a lot of years, been dancing around the law. There is no way this would have gone on as long as it has, without having some kind of dirt on them. The only reason it has gone on this long is, there lawyers and there motions have dragged it out this long. They have now had what 3 judges looking at this case and it still contiues? There has to be something there for that to happen. Just my two cents (place that where you want)

  12. misplacedcheesehead (anonymous) says…

    I have no idea if Mr. Neighbors is guilty or not. What bothers me is that the man, be he guilty or not guilty, is going to jail( even if early) for speaking his mind.
    What happened to Freedom of Speech, and being innocent until proven guilty?

  13. rdragon (M. Lindeman) says…

    misplacedcheesehead (Anonymous) says…

    I have no idea if Mr. Neighbors is guilty or not. What bothers me is that the man, be he guilty or not guilty, is going to jail( even if early) for speaking his mind.
    What happened to Freedom of Speech, and being innocent until proven guilty?

    rdragon writes

    The story tells you why, an agreement with both parties to not talk about the case. This has really nothing to do with freedom of speach. Make no mistake, this has nothing to do with free speach, it has to do with going back on a legal agreement.

  14. Sigmund (anonymous) says…


    misplacedcheesehead (Anonymous) says… "I have no idea if Mr. Neighbors is guilty or not. What bothers me is that the man, be he guilty or not guilty, is going to jail( even if early) for speaking his mind. What happened to Freedom of Speech, and being innocent until proven guilty?"

    "The two sides reached an agreement last year not to discuss the case publicly outside of court, and O’Hara had rejected calls from prosecutors several times to revoke Guy Neighbors’ bond."

    Both sides agreed to limit their comments till after trial. Neighbors broke that agreement, Neighbors goes to jail. If the Neighbors wanted to continue their slanders while awaiting trial they should have not agreed to limit their speech.

  15. snap_pop_no_crackle (anonymous) says…

    Girlfriend, you gonna start a hunger strike in sympathy with yellowhouse?

  16. OonlyBonly (anonymous) says…

    How do you manufacture marijuana?

  17. somebodynew (anonymous) says…

    Marion - did you conviently miss the part of the story (actually stories) where there was a SIGNED and legal document in place that Guy agreed to not talk about this anymore on the internet??? Not to mention, what he put out was just lies and defaming professional's characters and could probably be sued for it.

    I am all for individual rights, but I also would NOT sign them away if asked to. If I did, I would expect to have to live up to that agreement.

    And for the manufacture charge - from what I saw, just on a TV newscast, it was pretty obvious it was what would be called a "grow operation" and from the stuff being carried out, it appeared to be not "for personal use" as they say.

  18. dweezil222 (anonymous) says…

    All I'm wondering about is, if his allegations prove to be true, how much of our tax money is going to be spent paying for the lawsuit stemming from his wrongful arrest and violation of his first amendment rights?

    No one listens to his ranting anyway, whether it's true or not, so why not just let him rave like a madman?

  19. compmd (anonymous) says…

    1) Slander is not protected speech. This is not a first amendment issue.
    2) Guy entered into a legal agreement that he would not continue his idiotic campaign. He violated the terms of that agreement. He just kept swatting at the hornets' nest, and big surprise, he got stung.

  20. jumpin_catfish (anonymous) says…

    Read everyone's post and I have to say I still don't care about yellowhouse and it's owners troubles.

  21. snap_pop_no_crackle (anonymous) says…

    marioni's crusade de jour has been identified.
    This beats swine flu all to heck and gone.

  22. xbusguy (chris Ogle) says…

    Oh my.... what happened to the days when you do what you say you are going to do?

  23. somebodynew (anonymous) says…

    OK, Marion, obviously you did not stop with that one spit up adult beverage. But anyway, here goes -

    Marion -
    "Any agreement entered into as the result of coercion is invalid and unenforceable."

    While you are correct in that thought, exactly who said it was coercion ??? Uh, let me guess - Guy. Duh - what is he supposed to say - I'm an idiot. While that would be truthful, not many people would admit that. Also he had LEGAL counsel (of his own hiring - if he hadn't fired that one by then), and there have been a couple of judges review this before this recent arrest.

    OoooHHH, that is right, I forget, everyone is involved in the conspiracy. Silly me.

    And please get over yourself on Obama. I don't care who you voted for (I just hope you did), he does not have anything to do with this. As has been evidenced on this forum, this mess started before he was President - so maybe you should blame this on Bush. According to some on here he is responsible for anything wrong for the past eight years.

  24. Keith (anonymous) says…

    "Marion (Marion Lynn) says…

    Presidentmonkeyface dot com."

    But remember everyone, he's not a racist.

  25. Practicality (anonymous) says…

    Marion (Marion Lynn) says…

    "One of the bits of “evidence” was that empty bicycle boxes from Sunflower were found on the premises.

    I used to sell vintage bicycles on eBay and always got empty bike boxes for shipping from Sunflower; a phone call and they would save them for me and if that failed, there was always the dumpster."

    You should not have been using stolen boxes to sell your bicycles. Were the bicycles legit, or did you get them from Yellow House as well?

  26. Katara (anonymous) says…

    Marion (Marion Lynn) says…

    And I take it that no one here can see the strategy…………..

    Stupid is as stupid does!

    “My momma always said, “Life was like a box of chocolates. You never know what you're gonna get.”

    Most of you people are not smart enought to figure out how to open the box!
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    Wonderful! Marion is here to offer up his superb legal advice. Worked great on the dog case, didn't it, Marion?

    Still working on those Constitutional issues for the smoking ban?

  27. BlackVelvet (anonymous) says…

    Marion, you have NO IDEA what evidence the Cops, be they Federal or Local, have against Yellow House.
    If Guy Neighbors signed an agreement to cease his blogging/posting about the prosecutors and officers, it's about the same as a condition of bond statement. He violated the agreement, therefore he's the same as in contempt of court. therefore, he goes to jail. If he could shut his yap for one moment and let the system work, if he truly is innocent, it would probably have been proven by now. But he's been through a zillion attorneys so far, and each of them (his words) were corrupt or incompetent. He's accused many attorneys, both defense and prosecution, of being corrupt, as well as most of the cops in this part of the country. Do you REALLY think there's serious merit to his accusations? Do you REALLY think it's everyone in the midwest (other than Marion) vs Guy and Carrie Neighbors??? if you do, you're dumber than even I thought.

  28. lawrenceguy40 (anonymous) says…

    I have believed from the start of this debacle, that someone in power has been jilted by Mrs Neighbors and they have never gotten over the fact that she married Mr Neighbors. The whole thing stinks.

  29. bearded_gnome (anonymous) says…

    wow,
    no comment from Alexander?
    has he been knocked out by someone dangling a viper from a black helicopter and taking orders from the big O'man who is part of the conspiracy you know!

    no inane poem from "yellowhouse" posted.
    1. how stupid do you have to be to grow pot *when the authorities are already on your tail!*

    how stupid do you have to be to time after time after god aweful time highjack threads with rantings on here so even some [small number] who would support you get driven off by your body odor?

    did YH really buy a band uniform, that's stupid too.

    no conspiracy, just lunacy.

    ***
    and wow,
    Marioni self-aggrandizing again *much?*

    do you imagine yourself riding to the rescue of the Neighbors? if you're their savior, they're in *real trouble!*

    Guy signed an agreement. he violated that agreement. as we know, he and his family members have continued to pollute these threads since that agreement.

    ***
    finally,
    the Yellowhouse is a d----d soap opera!
    please pull the plug somebody!

  30. Ljames (anonymous) says…

    Marion

    you sure run your mouth a lot who are you to be calling everyone stupid you dont know me.

  31. igby (anonymous) says…

    I've always suspected Dear Alex, to be pappa or momma smurf, him or herself! Alex was just a little relentless about the whole deal to be a typical buttheaded teenager.

    I have heard that the Feds have some high tech device that they can do a flyover and see you setting at your computer on your web cam, that is if your using a PC wireless card. I use tape to cover the camera lens just in case! Lol.

  32. 75x55 (anonymous) says…

    Looks like someone needs a refill on their meds...

  33. been_there (anonymous) says…

    Of course, I see it now, the real reason the helicopter was flying over Lawrence with infra-red sensors

  34. been_there (anonymous) says…

    Just wondering, if inmates did have access to the internet, would Guy be able to stop himself.

  35. snap_pop_no_crackle (anonymous) says…

    This thread is almost to the point where Nick will threaten to sue somebody for libel.

  36. compmd (anonymous) says…

    Good lord, Marion, you play the Obama card in a case that has been going on longer than the overwhelming majority of Americans even knew who Obama was, so I'm sorry, but your favorite black politician has nothing to do with this.

    The "idiotic campaign" I refer to is the continued defamation that Mr. Neighbors perpetuated. If I were to send a bunch of emails to people saying "Marion and that Turkish student had a club where they screwed dogs and children!" you could come after me for defamation; I would be stating information known to be false, with no intent other than to defame you. Additionally, I would be stating that you were a criminal, when no court has determined guilt in either screwing dogs or children. That is what Neighbors is doing. He is publicly declaring the subjects of his defamation as criminals when no court has found them guilty of any wrongdoing, and you can't do that. The judge acted appropriately in a situation not uncommon to criminal court.

  37. autie (anonymous) says…

    Dang, I should stay up later. Yellowhouse revisited, snakes in the yard, Marion on his rants. Good times. I just don't know how one can be so angry on two topics at the same time; and neither one amount to hill of beans.

  38. grammaddy (anonymous) says…

    I've known Guy and Carrie for a long time although not intimately. Our children went to grade school together at East Heights and they were always very nice people. I've also bought appliances from Yellow House on occasion. I don't believe this couple to be the criminals some of you believe they are. I can't believe their legal issues have dragged on this long. I too wonder what has happened to "Freedomn of Speech." If the prosecutors involved are so upstanding, why does his criticism of them bother them so much.

  39. brujablanco (anonymous) says…

    gramdaddy: This isn't about freedom of speech, Guy defied a court order. Last time I checked, this isn't a smart thing to do and really pisses judges off.

    As for Marion - I have never in my life witnessed someone so hypocritical! Mr Lynn was involved in an attempt to ruin a very nice family not so long ago, using defamation and lies (under oath no less). A very confused man - sad, really.

    Keep spouting off Mr. Lynn - the feds are probably watching. :-)

  40. poppygirl (anonymous) says…

    "O’Hara also denied a motion to have Guy Neighbors undergo a mental health evaluation" - Judge missed the boat with this motion !

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  42. satar (anonymous) says…

    ” manufacturing marijuana” I guess that we dont grow any more?

  43. smitty (anonymous) says…

    If an officer of the law has multiple citizens questioning his use of drugs, it would be prudent to exercise an unannounced pee test. but under oath it is established that McAtee has only taken three tests, all with prior knowledge. Olin is as much a part of this as his officers.

    Read and educate yourselves:

    http://www.scribd.com/doc/14597829/Tr...

    Maybe Mike Amyx's comments when asked if there was an on going investigation by a higher legal authority of Olin and some of his staff need be remembered. Amxy stated that the matter was being handled by the city manager's office as a personnel issue. Possible criminal activity by law enforcement is made private by calling it personell issues. More under the table activity by our city manager by consent of the commission. WHY?

    Don't know if the YH is guilty or innocent but going to jail for these so called emails when the YH did indeed stop blogging and four years of a "drug out" trial is not a speedy or justice.

    AW**

  44. Irish (Leslie Swearingen) says…

    Are some of us straying from the subject?
    Whatever happened to the concept of a swift and speedy trial? Why do things like this go on and on and on?

  45. TheYetiSpeaks (anonymous) says…

    There is a downside to this whole thing: Now when my car stereo gets stolen, I will have no idea where to start looking.

  46. satar (anonymous) says…

    “Freedom of Speech. Thats a joke. becareful what you say big brother is watching..

  47. Kawatchi (anonymous) says…

    A judge can revoke your bond for anything. This has nothing to do with constitutional rights. It has to do with meeting conditions of the bond.

  48. smitty (anonymous) says…

    Well here's what the JW, their advertisers, and I think....my comments are a strong public attraction, enough so that our local eateries are getting a biggie advert boost without the benefit of free meals, too. I know from experience as does the marketers of the JW that the info I put out is read by many. But then I usually back up my opinions with some data, cop-roach.

    Fear abounds in our country so it blows away the coward sell outs when anyone stands up for justice even if big brother is watching.

    Do take the time to read the documents from the July '08 testimony where four LPD try to sell their story to the judge. The judge warns the Neighbors they maybe crazy for their speaking out on such a controversial topic as condemning the legal system's enforcers. At one time being crazy for speaking out was mostly reserved for those crazy arse mouthy women. Duuuh!!

  49. gl0ck0wn3r (anonymous) says…

    This has awesome written all over it.

  50. smitty (anonymous) says…

    By George Diepenbrock....

    **Trial is scheduled for October.**

    The trial date was scheduled for Feb '09 then changed as it has been again and again and again. No prior reporting on this change until today with this short one sentence paragraph. No explanation from the feds on the continued delays either and the YH is unable to report the change because they would not blog that information no matter the lengthy delays.

  51. smitty (anonymous) says…

    gl0ck0wn3r...what is the meaning of ""this""?

  52. rbs (anonymous) says…

    I know I've lived in Lawrence a long time when the highlight of my Friday afternoon is reading the comments to the Yellow House story on the LJW. . . .

    . . . and where is Alexander???

    Ahhh, Lawrence :-)

  53. smitty (anonymous) says…

    NWOR

  54. remember_username (anonymous) says…

    I think Marion is trying very hard to win the one millionth posting Mr. Kealing was referring to on the 18th.

    Go Lemings Go!

  55. HodgePodge (Erin Parmelee) says…

    Marion writes:

    Any agreement entered into as the result of coercion is invalid and unenforceable.

    ---------------------------------------------------------------------

    By that logic, any and every plea bargain entered into by persons accused of a crime would be invalid and unenforceable, given that the accused is facing possible jail time when they make the agreement.

  56. snap_pop_no_crackle (anonymous) says…

    Nick likes to paint with a broad brush when he's raving about the law.

  57. somedude20 (anonymous) says…

    Sounds like this BS could make for one hell of a Lifetime movie. "Life in a Yellow House" starring Meredith Baxter Burney, Sherman Hemsley, and Gordon Jump as the Police Chief.
    Love, loss, and stolen underwears all under one roof!

  58. smokybr (anonymous) says…

    I don't see why people are so hard on Guy. When I went in there to buy my own stereo back after it had been stolen in 02, he was totally cool after only like one or two threats and shoving the police report in his face.

  59. SouthernBelle (anonymous) says…

    Marion,
    Are you related to the Neighbor family? What is your stake in all of this? Why do you insist on making this about race?
    Are you just simply a bored little man?

  60. SouthernBelle (anonymous) says…

    somedude20 (Anonymous) says…
    "Sounds like this BS could make for one hell of a Lifetime movie. “Life in a Yellow House” starring Meredith Baxter Burney, Sherman Hemsley, and Gordon Jump as the Police Chief.
    Love, loss, and stolen underwears all under one roof!"
    .
    .
    .
    .
    .

    That's awesome!

  61. somebodynew (anonymous) says…

    smokybr (Anonymous) says…

    I don't see why people are so hard on Guy. When I went in there to buy my own stereo back after it had been stolen in 02, he was totally cool after only like one or two threats and shoving the police report in his face.

    LOL - I think this sums up YH to a T in their dealings.

  62. educateddude (anonymous) says…

    This be a sorry fencing store, if it one person in over 100 comments says he/she found a stolen stereo in the store back in 02, I

    expect that is 2002?

    Dude this is 2009! hahahahaha, get over it, that was like almost 10 years ago!

  63. igby (anonymous) says…

    Good point!

    They been selling hot stuff for so long and getting away with it, it's a way of life for them, a reality of the normal days business.

    They really feel that the Government is wrong!

    How dare the LPD and the Feds stop them now!

    It feels like discrimination of their lifestyles.

    Pay a little bit for hot stuff and sell it to the public and make money! What a way to live.

  64. gl0ck0wn3r (anonymous) says…

    "smokybr (Anonymous) says… I don't see why people are so hard on Guy. When I went in there to buy my own stereo back after it had been stolen in 02, he was totally cool after only like one or two threats and shoving the police report in his face."

    You said hardon guy.

  65. bearded_gnome (anonymous) says…

    wow,
    no marioni for hours!
    the psych meds he got from that Nigerian pharmacy must've run out.

    ***
    Smitty thinks she's promoting the lunch specials getting read! wow, that's rich.

    again, no Alexander.

    apparently he *was* knocked out by a behavior control technician in a black helicopter dangling a viper. or, he's been beamed up to the alien spaceship that's hovering over Eudora, and he's being probed right now. because of course, the aliens, black helicopters, they're all controled ultimately by Mr. Obama who has, more than once, personally uttered the names of the Neighbors and told the secret hit squads and aliens to "get 'em."

    ***
    the thing I've never understood about the supposed conspiracy against the yellowhouse couple is...why? just why would there be dozens of people at multiple layers of government all conspiring against the Neighbors?

    really.

  66. TacoBob (anonymous) says…

    So the big question is....is he in custody now?

  67. been_there (anonymous) says…

    So the groundwork for a "not guilty" because of insanity is being set up. Maybe that was the reason for the whole conspiracy claims. Personally I thought the one about the police were trying to force them from their location because they wanted the building for themselves was hilarious. That fell through when the building on the corner became available and the city didn't buy it.

  68. smitty (anonymous) says…

    Has anyone read the link to the transcript where the LPD, postal inspector testify?

    In lieu of random posts of ignorance, try it, you may learn something. But then that isn't the motive for most of these posters. It's the lurkers that get all excited. It's in the transcript.

  69. brujablanco (anonymous) says…

    smitty, I did read the transcript. YH has no defense! I also think the judge was right in suggesting a mental eval on both defendants. Maybe they can get the help they obviously need. I am not saying this to be mean, I truly think they need help.

  70. smitty (anonymous) says…

    brujablanco says.....the judge was right in suggesting a mental eval on both defendants.....

    You have not read the transcript or the article and your comprehension is at fault.

    The judge did not order mental evaluations on the Neighbors.

  71. Katara (anonymous) says…

    smitty (Anonymous) says…

    brujablanco says…..the judge was right in suggesting a mental eval on both defendants…..

    You have not read the transcript or the article and your comprehension is at fault.

    The judge did not order mental evaluations on the Neighbors.
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    I believe you did not read brujablanco's post correctly and it is your comprehension is at fault. He/she said that the judge suggested it, not ordered it.

    I also read the full transcript. It is very telling that all of the attorneys agreed with the judge's suggestion for a mental evaluation.

    I, however, think that this show of insanity by the Neighbors is just that... a show. I think the Neighbors are playing the system.

    This has gone on too long and it is because of the Neighbors and the games they wish to play with the system.

  72. gl0ckUser (anonymous) says…

    Wow I wonder why the feds are trying to shut them up so bad. I thought feds don't care what you say if they have a solid case against you. I wonder where alexander is I see he posted on the snake story

  73. gl0ckUser (anonymous) says…

    smitty

    i think your on to something i just read the transcripts and the prosecutor objects to almost every question asked by the defense attorney. Are there any more transcripts or documents you have on this case ?

  74. Gina (Gina Bailey-Carbaugh) says…

    There should be a limit on how many times someone can post in the same blog. Marion needs to be arrested for highjacking this one. Or. at least charged with contributing to the destruction of the ozone layer with all his hot air.

  75. pace (anonymous) says…

    Olin fights like a cornered rat whenever the idea of a citizens review board ( a real one) is suggested. This is nonsense, millions spent and the culture at the judicial center becomes more sour and more insulated by the year.

  76. been_there (anonymous) says…

    Once you read gl0ckUser's comment history, it's pretty evident who it is. Then he tries to pretend here that he has never read the stuff on the case before. What a joke.

  77. gl0ckUser (anonymous) says…

    good point we need a police review board

  78. Gina (Gina Bailey-Carbaugh) says…

    lol.....that was lame, Marion.

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  80. Katara (anonymous) says…

    I see Marion is hitting his gluten-free adult beverages again tonight.

    Are you going to give us all legal advice again, Marion?

    Anyhow, you'd think Guy's family would have figured out that this judge does not tolerate their nonsense and would stop posting on all local forums. However, I doubt they will and then Carrie will end up having her bond revoked.

    Interestingly enough, the agreement that Guy and Carrie signed includes third parties acting on their behalf. It is too bad that their friends and family don't give a rat's ass about then by honoring the agreement. Personally, I'd be pretty upset if I honored an agreement I signed and one of my family members or friends screwed me over and ended up sending me to jail because they couldn't be bothered to do the same.

  81. Bladerunner (anonymous) says…

    Lost what little respect I had left for Marion....

  82. smitty (anonymous) says…

    glock, this is the third attempt at a mental eval filed by Parker. YH is placed in prison for email not blogging. McAtee has testified frequently for the feds on drug charges. In my opinion, if it is found McAtee or any of the LPD are quilty of any of the claims from YH, the feds will be challenged to present a viable witness in the drug cases from Lawrence tri-county busts that went to the fed courts, not to mention the case against the YH. Go back and read McAtee's testimony on the first transcript posted. One vague comment referred to another LPD(probably Peck) that is in the middle of the fear of lose of credibility for McAtee and the feds, IMHO. One situation gets tangled with another when so many of the legal system are scratching each others backs. Looks to me like the out spoken YH owners connected some of the dots.

    http://www.scribd.com/doc/15121192/Ma...

    BTW, these are public documents.

  83. lawthing (anonymous) says…

    Sending a man to a Federal Prison for sending an email to the FBI, seems pretty harsh to me!

    I hope he and his family get some kind of justice and closure soon.

  84. somebodynew (anonymous) says…

    lawthing - I hope the same thing. And when they are sitting in a Federal Prison somewhere due to their stupidity and arrogance, there will be closure. And Lord knows I wish it would be soon, as this has just been a circus.

  85. smitty (anonymous) says…

    If one is to google Parker and YH there are massive numbers links. According to the court order, YH removed their posts. The public records are still available though.

    Here is the 5-4-09 filing that does have the exhibits available:

    http://www.scribd.com/doc/14972048/Ma...

    Why this exhibit since the YH owners had already complied with the order to remove them?

  86. Boston_Corbett (anonymous) says…

    Marion: "Normally I don't care a lot for Wikipedia. . . .
    _________________

    Marions primary source for any information: Google

  87. brujablanco (anonymous) says…

    lawthing - what a frightening thought - you practice criminal law? The defendant was not sent to federal prison for simply sending an email - he was sent to prison for revoking his bond.

    smitty:

    Why did the defense attorney agree to a mental eval? It's in the record that Guy's attorney cares so much for the defendants. I don't get it.

  88. smitty (anonymous) says…

    I don't really know why, white witch. Here is a filing that may help in answering your interest:

    http://www.scribd.com/doc/15041186/Ma...

    This filing was against Carrie but the judge saw fit to not reverse her bond. Go figure.

    Here's guy's filing complete with the email info but that has been in previous links in this thread:

    http://www.scribd.com/doc/14972048/Ma...

  89. smitty (anonymous) says…

    beobachter (Anonymous) says…

    smitty, anyone can claim anything. Doesn't make it true. Can Guy prove any of it?

    **anyone can claim anything**

    Including LE??!

    I apologise for feeding the troll.

  90. bearded_gnome (anonymous) says…

    one of Marion sidney Lynn's greatest hits:
    Marion Lynn

    Sunday, August 17, 2008

    liquideve (Anonymous) says: my point is that you seem rather to rather slander a person who has already served time and not "warn" anyone: you aren't a
    saint.
    *Marion Lynn (Marion Lynn) says:Rather strange, don't you think that there is all sorts of concern and all sorts of comments about the Yellow House
    issue but virtually no interest in the fact that a convicted child molester has set up a sutuation which allows him to have childrend essentially brought
    to him and that the situation is supported by the community?What gives?Has North Lawrence become a haven for child molesters?Has North Larence become that
    "desert island" to which child molesters are sent that people talk about in jest?Has that "desert island" become a fact in North Lawrence?Does the "Community"
    in North Lawrence support child molesters?Is the "Community" in North Lawrence setting up a "Safe Zone" for child molesters?What gives?*

  91. Jaylee (anonymous) says…

    smitty, we all have read the transcripts. every time this pot gets stirred, someone new reads those transcripts and the only increase in numbers is people who believe the neighbors were not as clean as they claimed to be.

    i read them from a disruption long ago, and have only browsed arousals since, but am certain nothing has changed.

  92. smitty (anonymous) says…

    Here's exhibit of the JW forums by Parker, edited to appear as a complete representation of all of the comments. All of smitty's comments have been edited out. I don't know this federal prosecutor. Inane comments of our usual irk but Parker edits mine out. They editing me??? hhhmmmm..... This is not nor the cover up of the Sevier murder ever been about me but the corruption in the legal system. Bingo!!

    Here is the fed doc followed by the JW original forums.

    http://www.scribd.com/doc/11796637/Fe...

    Compare them and see for your self.

    http://www2.ljworld.com/news/2008/sep...

    This link needed to be re posted:
    http://community.myfoxkc.com/blogs/ye...

  93. Katara (anonymous) says…

    smitty (Anonymous) says…

    Here's exhibit of the JW forums by Parker, edited to appear as a complete representation of all of the comments. All of smitty's comments have been edited out. I don't know this federal prosecutor. Inane comments of our usual irk but Parker edits mine out. They editing me??? hhhmmmm….. This is not nor the cover up of the Sevier murder ever been about me but the corruption in the legal system. Bingo!!

    Here is the fed doc followed by the JW original forums.

    http://www.scribd.com/doc/11796637/Fe…

    Compare them and see for your self.

    http://www2.ljworld.com/news/2008/sep…

    This link needed to be re posted:
    http://community.myfoxkc.com/blogs/ye…
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~
    Oh, I get it now. You're upset because you are not directly part of the drama. What an ego!

  94. smitty (anonymous) says…

    Mindless troll, think!! How about the possibility that McAtee has claimed his reputation is at risk due to the YH posts/blogs. If the federal prosecutor were to include **anyone else's** negative community minded comments to the judge McAtee's claims are bogus. Too complecated for you?? Do you cry in the court room?

    McAtee was the partner of Peck who was framed and fired while several cases were thrown out due to the controversy over believability. Peck did nothing that McAtee didn't do but someone had to fall thus a frame up by Olin.

    McAtee's testimony is greatly needed in many federal drug cases so he must be protected or the cases fail.

  95. smitty (anonymous) says…

    cont
    Even if it makes the federal prosecutor complicit or is that more than one federal attorney complicit? Criminals prosecuting the YH?? sic

    Sure hope the YH lawyers are made aware of this above discrepancy. So many filings and exhibits that they may have missed this point.

    Guy Neighbors is erroneously in prison thanks to the co-opertive tactics from LPD and KC prosecutors is certainly a possiibilty.

  96. Jaylee (anonymous) says…

    smitty,

    you are convincing me more with every post that you ARE one of the neighbors, as you cannot post under your true name (at least as far as i can deduce from this article).

    if i am right, that is gutsy and, even though i personally am sick of hearing about all this, god speed.

  97. smitty (anonymous) says…

    I'm really the walk in alien of Bob Dylan with an Elvis twist. Thank you thank you thank you very much. Try spending your energy on sorting out the facts/lies if you really are interested in this case.

    Come gather round people
    Wherever you roam
    And admit that the waters
    Around you have grown
    And accept it that soon
    Youll be drenched to the bone.
    If your time to you
    Is worth savin
    Then you better start swimmin
    Or youll sink like a stone
    For the times they are a-changin.

    Come writers and critics
    Who prophesize with your pen
    And keep your eyes wide
    The chance wont come again
    And dont speak too soon
    For the wheels still in spin
    And theres no tellin who
    That its namin.
    For the loser now
    Will be later to win
    For the times they are a-changin.

    Come senators, congressmen
    Please heed the call
    Dont stand in the doorway
    Dont block up the hall
    For he that gets hurt
    Will be he who has stalled
    Theres a battle outside
    And it is ragin.
    Itll soon shake your windows
    And rattle your walls
    For the times they are a-changin.

    Come mothers and fathers
    Throughout the land
    And dont criticize
    What you cant understand
    Your sons and your daughters
    Are beyond your command
    Your old road is
    Rapidly agin.
    Please get out of the new one
    If you cant lend your hand
    For the times they are a-changin.

    The line it is drawn
    The curse it is cast
    The slow one now
    Will later be fast
    As the present now
    Will later be past
    The order is
    Rapidly fadin.
    And the first one now
    Will later be last
    For the times they are a-changin.

    Can we get back to the many contradictions that are being weeded out of the LPD and feds sworn words about the YH??

  98. smitty (anonymous) says…

    brujablanco says....Why did the defense attorney agree to a mental eval? It's in the record that Guy's attorney cares so much for the defendants. I don't get it.

    Read this ....it is a request to withdraw from the case filed in April 09. There is some info as to why so many attorneys in this case. It is the interference from Parker and Moorehead that seems to be the most obstructive to any attorney representing the Neighbors.

    http://www.scribd.com/doc/14701513/Ch...

  99. Katara (anonymous) says…

    smitty (Anonymous) says… Pay attention to me! Me! Me! Me! Sherlock Holmes has nothing on my crime-solving skills! Look at me! Look at me! Look at me!

  100. bearded_gnome (anonymous) says…

    beobachter
    (Anonymous) says…

    jaylee, welcome to the club. Most of posters here are sick of yh and smitty. All either one ever post is how bad the LPD is and what a huge conspiracy against
    them.

    Don't often agree with Beo, but here he's right!

    I've met officer M too and he didn't look/sound like Darth Vader.

    gee, and just when I was *hoping* to get this thread highjacked onto Marion Sidney Lynn!

    Marion Sidney Lynn hates polar bears!

    I'm not the only one to recall how Marioni has impuned north lawrence. you wouldn't know about it marioni, but we've dealt with that sex offender problem here. you were right to identify Harry the registered sex offender doing/living where he was. but you were wrong to make out that north lawrence accepted him and his kind.

    still no post on this thread from Alex? the evil eye must've gotten him this time?

  101. been_there (anonymous) says…

    Didn't YH (Carrie?) used to post poetry on the blogs a lot? Now smitty is posting poetry? I'm with Jaylee, it sounds more and more like smitty is YH.

  102. somebodynew (anonymous) says…

    To paraphrase a quote "I know Smitty, and Smitty is no Yellow House". OK, bad example. I think the only thing Smitty and YH have in common is their obsession with LPD being evil doers. And, besides, at least Carrie would write her own poems, not post the lyrics to a song. But I think maybe she (at least) has been smarter and did not want to p**s of a Federal Judge again.

  103. snap_pop_no_crackle (anonymous) says…

    I (heart) Nick when he's trying to be all stern & stuff & going heavy into namecalling.

    BTW,

    still

    having

    a

    wonderful

    internet

    life

    and

    there's

    nothing

    you

    can

    do

    about

    it

    .

  104. Gina (Gina Bailey-Carbaugh) says…

    Marion (Marion Lynn) says…

    Blah blah blah blah blah blah

    blah blah blah blah
    blah blah blah blah blah blah blah

    blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah

    blah blah blah blah blah blah I like to see myself in print. Blah blah blah blah
    blah blah blah blah blah blah

    blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah Here's an irrelevant website: www.onlymarionknows.com.

    Blah blah blah blah
    blah blah blah blah blah
    blah blah blah blah blah blah
    blah blah blah blah blah blah.

  105. gl0ck0wn3r (anonymous) says…

    "gl0ckUser (Anonymous) says… i think your on to something..." and "Wow I wonder why the feds are trying to shut them up so bad."

    This is clearly not me. It is "you're" and "badly." At least make an attempt at English if you are going to try to sucker people as me.

  106. Katara (anonymous) says…

    Marion (Marion Lynn) says… Pay attention to me! Pay attention to me! Look at me! I know how to copy/paste! Me! Me! Me! I have a huge ego and can only feed it gluten-free items so it usually is starving for attention! Please pay attention to me! I'm so lonely and desperate for human interaction! Please?

    Please?

    Please?

  107. Katara (anonymous) says…

    Marion (Marion Lynn) says…
    Marion writes:

    Kathy, your multiple profiles are showing.

    Give it a break.

    Say “Hello!” to Paul for me, will you?
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    My name is not Kathy and I haven't a clue who Paul is.

    Are you pulling a Bronze here?

    Or is this just more of your desperate ploys for attention to feed that huge ego of yours?

    You know, the one that actually believes it has something of value to contribute to Yellow House in terms of advice?

    Or the one who hasn't figured out that all distilled alcohol is gluten-free?

  108. bearded_gnome (anonymous) says…

    Gina,
    psssst,
    you may have just given marioni an idea for yet another faked up website of his! pretty funny!
    ***

    Marioni,
    you are without a doubt the worst poster on these comment threads and it is a miracle that ljworld has not TOSsed you too!!!

    I note you're multiple rantings at me...did you consider you know...its a holiday!

    sheesh!

    first you claim to have been "right" and link to Marietta Parker stepping down as if you're some wise seer; the problem is she was never in that position for perminent!

    you idiot, she was always referred to as "interim!" remember Barack Hussein Obama came into office and fired all the federal prosecutors [no outrage from the hypocritical left on that one.]

    do you need to go to Wiki's dictionary and *look up interim?*

    ***
    as to what's been done about the sex offender, I don't know how much publicity others want on this so I will not answer you directly.

    I will tell you organization and information resulted in actions.

    you are a complete idiot! I said, and you've quoted me saying it, that you were *right* to identify him! FGS, just read your own d----d quote of me!

    but you impuned an entire community.

    gee, and just when I was *hoping* to get this thread highjacked onto Marion Sidney Lynn!

    you are indeed a complete idiot, did it occur to you that as I was tying your current YH "efforts" [actually loudmouthed self-aggrandizing floods of postings] with your earlier attack on north lawrence [your own quote from last year ties it to YH], I stuck tongue firmly in cheek and wrote that, since we have seen so *many times* that *you* highjack threads. and we've seen YH/alex highjack threads.

    so, I made a humorous self-reference. but you're either too drunk or too stupid to get it!

  109. snap_pop_no_crackle (anonymous) says…

    disturbedandpossiblydangerousgirlfriend dot com?

  110. been_there (anonymous) says…

    Don't know what was done about Harry, but there is no garden this year. Hope that answers part of your question.

  111. snap_pop_no_crackle (anonymous) says…

    cool and marion sitting in a tree.....

  112. gl0ckUser (anonymous) says…

    Marion I see that there was another motion filed to dismiss the charges.

    http://www.scribd.com/doc/15803651/Mo...

  113. gl0ckUser (anonymous) says…

    This looks like the Obstruction of justice paper work in a KU investigation, that somehow was deemed Federal

    http://www.scribd.com/doc/15803567/Go...

  114. gl0ckUser (anonymous) says…

    http://www.scribd.com/doc/15803651/Mo...

    In the event the government argues that an official
    federal proceeding was indeed contemplated at the time the Neighbors were contacted and, further asserts (incorrectly)that the Neighbors knew of this circumstances, then the government runs headlong into a violation of the rule of
    Massiah v. United States
    , 377 U.S. 201 (1964).
    See also UnitedStates v. Henry
    , 447 U.S. 264 (1980);
    Maine v. Moulton
    , 474 U.S. 159 (1985). Those cases establish that “[t]he Sixth Amendment guarantees the accused, at least after the initiation of formal charges, the right to rely on counsel as a “medium” between him and the State.” Moulton
    , 474 U.S. at 176. “[T]his guarantee includes the State’s affirmative obligation not to act in a manner that circumvents the protections accorded the accusedby invoking this right.”
    Id
    .It is undisputed that the government did not contact counsel for Mr. Neighbors prior to the KU police going to Yellow House and speaking with defendants. Moreover,Mr. Duma, counsel for Mrs. Neighbors, was informed that the matter involved only a local investigation, not a potential federal case. Thus, if the government tries to claim that the “official proceeding” was federal in nature, then the contact with the defendants clearly circumvented the protections of the Sixth Amendment and constituted a Massiah violation.
    ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

    uh oh, Amendment Violations ? say it isn't so.

  115. bearded_gnome (anonymous) says…

    Marioni,
    I was far from the only one who took it that way: yes you put questionmarks [interrogatories] after the statements. however, the manner of piling on the questions as I have quoted you above, you cannot change.

    further, we all know how inflamatory you are. we all know what an irritant you are.

    you did impune all of north lawrence for something that we had no knowledge of.
    do you ever apologize or just move on to the next smear, the next self-aggrandizement?

    why are you still allowed on here? on one night on your *own blog* you had *8* posts killed, plus some of them were quite defamatory of me, and others.

    the consolation is that your support and posting sure doesn't help the Yellowhousers, not at all! you are a lout.

  116. smitty (anonymous) says…

    The feds hold thousands of pages of documents as shown in a filing post above. they will not allow any investigation of those documents outside of Parker's office with observation by her or her staff. One of the biggest reasons that Neighbor's attorney requested to be dropped from this case:

    Read this ….it is a request to withdraw from the case filed in April 09. There is some info as to why so many attorneys in this case. It is the interference from Parker and Moorehead that seems to be the most obstructive to any attorney representing the Neighbors.

    http://www.scribd.com/doc/14701513/Ch…

    There appears to be so many contradictions in the feds filings that it is an impossible task to challenge them without close comparison/study/massive amount of time(obstructive).

  117. was_freashpowder2 (Alexander Neighbors) says…

    a stark reminder of just how long the neighbors have been waiting for a trial so they can prove their innocents. I think this will better put stuff into perspective.

    http://www.timeanddate.com/counters/c...

  118. smitty (anonymous) says…

    JW, why did you heavily cover(exploit) this so called largest fencing operation in the history of Lawrence per the LPD only to ignore reports any updates as they happen? Yes it has been over four years and counting. That's why it needs to be followed.

    The last so called trial date in Oct has been indefinetly delayed. The feds have court ordered a mental evaluation of both the Neighbors that indefinately delays the trial.

    http://www.scribd.com/doc/18494611/Fe...

    http://www.scribd.com/doc/18957763/Go...

    Why bury any blog that presents documents?

    http://www2.ljworld.com/weblogs/mario...

  119. smitty (anonymous) says…

    beobachter, how will we ever determine that by a jury of peers if the feds don't let it go to trial? Sounds more and more like a witch(weren't they all crazy too?) hunt every day.

  120. beatrice (anonymous) says…

    Is there a difference between calling someone a "Facist beyatch," and calling them a "Facist bitch"?

    From the law of the LJWorld comments land, it states: "But if you use inappropriate language (even when typographically obfuscated), ... we reserve the right (but assume no obligation) to remove any and/or all of your contributions."

    "Beyatch" is just "bitch" in a typographically obfuscated form, yet it is allowed on basically a daily basis. So is it okay to just call someone a bitch then? If not, please remove this post as well as all that use a typographically obfuscated form of the word.

  121. This comment was removed by the site staff for violation of the usage agreement.

  122. snap_pop_no_crackle (anonymous) says…

    Bring out your dead (horses)! Bring out your dead (horses)!

  123. was_freashpowder2 (Alexander Neighbors) says…

    This is the Evidence list.
    Some items have been "returned to the owner" but the case number for who that owner is was never recorded ........... strange...............

    http://www.scribd.com/doc/18373322/Ca...

    Also there are a lot of items with out serial numbers written down........

    Remember the police are claiming all of these items are stolen....... But there are no victims how does that happen ?

  124. was_freashpowder2 (Alexander Neighbors) says…

    For those of you that think this is not a big cover up scheme by the DOJ and the Feds then why is GUY neighbors not listed as in custody ? Here is a court docket it shows to the public who is in custody and who is walking around free.

    http://www.scribd.com/doc/17447516/Ju...

    I guess the DOJ dont want to make a big deal about putting someone in prison for 5+ months for an email complaining about no oversight of federal prosecutors

  125. was_freashpowder2 (Alexander Neighbors) says…

    Here is more things to think about. This was a response motion when the prosecutor Marietta Parker was getting desperate to get Guy in Custody(and quite).

    http://www.scribd.com/doc/16464489/Re...

  126. MyName (anonymous) says…

    ZOMG necro thread is necroed!

    There's no news here. You can go about your business. These aren't the droids we're looking for!

  127. was_freashpowder2 (Alexander Neighbors) says…

    I don't think you people realize Guy and Carrie are innocent of the crimes they have been charged with. This is obvious to the prosecutor who hem-and-hawing around on blogs WTF ?
    If there was a Real Case that the neighbors committed a crime THEN why after 5 years would there have been no Trial
    and then this
    http://www.scribd.com/doc/18494611/Fe...

    That is an order to indefinitely extend the court date to....well.... when ever in the future....
    And while that's going on the prosecutor has been trying to get them thrown in prison claiming they are CRAZY !?

    how can people who are innocent and Demand a trial be called Crazy ?

    How can they be Crazy if they have been waiting for a trial for 5 years and now it looks as if its going to be another 5 years ? I think Crazy would be the people in charge of this

  128. smitty (anonymous) says…

    Naw, that's due to the supply from the evidence LPD room is squelched now.

  129. was_freashpowder2 (Alexander Neighbors) says…

    stuff missing from the evidence room at the lawrence Police department......
    naw........
    ..............................maybe it was a tornado...?

    (see page 33).
    http://www.scribd.com/doc/14597829/Tr...

  130. smitty (anonymous) says…

    Seems the judge denied the request for an evaluation of Carrie Neighbors by the female federal attorney(can't say fed atty name or disappearededed may happen instantly). I am still unclear on what is happening to Mr Neighbors evaluation request by the federal female attorney(s)but.....Who's crazy, mentally ill, gone too far in their authority, abused power? The Neighbors???

    Old news....**O’Hara also denied a motion to have Guy Neighbors undergo a mental health evaluation. But in the written order that Neighbors be held in federal custody, O’Hara said Neighbors might have “delusions” or strongly held opinions that prosecutors and witnesses were “conspiring against him.”**

    repeated......They are holding Guy Neighbors in lieu of a mental evaluation(?) and attempted to get both the Neighbors "evaluated" one more time(again)!!! The judge says no to committing C. Neighbors to an institution for an evaluation.

    Where are you on this story JW??

    Check the evidence room documents and reports, follow the LPD testimonies, check out all the documentation that the Neighbors have presented or trying to get presented, follow up on the investigation by a higher outside authority into Olin and the LPD members that Amyx stated was being handled as a personnel problem by the city manager's office. OH! That's correct, we can't check it out cause it's confidential if it is a personnel issue, WTF?? Not to mention the court ordered imprisonment of G Neighbors to squelch their attempt to get any information out by posting public documents.

    Where are the defendants attorneys, past and present, on these maters? Too hot to handle due to the corruption is my guess, thus the oft replaced attorneys for the defense??

    Are there sealed indictments involved with this case (probably) due to the filings that the Neighbors have pursued? The judge should know and refuse the evaluations if indictments or results of an investigation do exist.

    Isn't it legal to state there are sealed indictments without disclosing any information that may jeopardise the case or the names of those in the (rumored?) indictments?

    What's up with no coverage, JW?

  131. was_freashpowder2 (Alexander Neighbors) says…

    yea beobachter the few corrupt cops on Lawrence police Department have been wishing for 5 years this case would just disappear........

    Its like a poop stain right in the middle of their fore-head.

    Where is the update story from the ljworld ?

  132. snap_pop_no_crackle (anonymous) says…

    As Velveeta is the cheese that never dies, so is this thread...

  133. was_freashpowder2 (Alexander Neighbors) says…

    bonbon44:
    wow! a person stands up to the law when the law is wrong and that person is held for it? not a good sign for our legal system.

  134. was_freashpowder2 (Alexander Neighbors) says…

    Guy Neighbors sent an e-mail to several addresses on April 22, including to the Federal Bureau of Investigation’s Kansas City, Mo., field office, that accused prosecutors and Lawrence police officers to have acted “in a pattern of conspiracy and cover-up.”

  135. smitty (anonymous) says…

    In a case that raises questions about online journalism and privacy rights, the U.S. Department of Justice sent a formal request to an independent news site ordering it to provide details of all reader visits on a certain day.

    The grand jury subpoena also required the Philadelphia-based Indymedia.us Web site "not to disclose the existence of this request" unless authorized by the Justice Department, a gag order that presents an unusual quandary for any news organization.................The subpoena (PDF) from U.S. Attorney Tim Morrison in Indianapolis demanded "all IP traffic to and from www.indymedia.us" on June 25, 2008. It instructed Clair to "include IP addresses, times, and any other identifying information," including e-mail addresses, physical addresses, registered accounts, and Indymedia readers' Social Security Numbers, bank account numbers, credit card numbers, and so on........

    http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2009/11/...

    some of what we already know of federal prosecutors misconduct and corruption is discussed in this video:

    The Fixer- Author Teddy Moore
    US Judicial corruption
    Intent to make money not make justice
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xR7g41…

    and then there are these to consider

    federal judge says legal system corrupt beyond recognition.

    http://www.msfraud.org/law/lawarticle…

    How the Government Breaks the Law
    http://www.federalobserver.com/archiv…

    All this information was easy to find after reading earlier this past week about the piscatorial corruption case that is before the supreme court...

    Take a look at the supreme court and the case on federal prosecutors who knowing use fabricated evidence and other false evidence to gain a conviction.

    **washington — Supreme Court justices struggled Wednesday with whether prosecutors, who usually are shielded from civil rights lawsuits, can be held responsible for framing defendants with false testimony and fabricated evidence………Chief Justice John Roberts …..”We're concerned about the chilling effect on the prosecutors.”**

    http://www.usatoday.com/news/washingt…

    Take note how the posting got blocked, unlike any other story on the JW:

    http://www2.ljworld.com/news/2009/jun...

  136. smitty (anonymous) says…

    This editorial is balanced and realistic in the over all corruption and abuse of power .

    The author, KJ Dell'Antonia, of this editorial is a former prosecutor.

    More on the condoned federal prosecutor corrption:

    Even the Worst Prosecutors Can't Be Sued—and That's the Way It Has To Be
    Posted: November 4, 2009 KJ Dell'Antonia

    http://www.doublex.com/blog/xxfactor/...

    .......Lawyers for Terry Harrison have argued that although it's long been clear that prosecutors cannot be sued for doing their job—for actually prosecuting a defendant for a crime—there is no immunity for investigative activity. Harrison claims he can sue his prosecutors for their participation in what was at best a botched investigation and at worst an outright conspiracy to arrest the wrong person for the crime. In other words, he's not suing them for prosecuting his trial, he's suing them for helping to put him in a position to be tried in the first place.

    Listening to the facts—which include a star witness coached to lie and the withholding of evidence against another suspect and are soaked in racist implications—it's hard not to want some revenge for Harrison. But to allow him to sue the prosecutors in his case for investigative activity would have one simple, immediate result across the country: no more prosecutors involved in investigating crimes. If prosecutors (lawyers all) can be sued only for activity that takes place before an indictment, then they simply won't get involved before an indictment—and that's not a good thing......

  137. smitty (anonymous) says…

    From.....The Federal Prosecutor: A Calling Betrayed .....

    On April 1, 1940, one of the greatest attorneys general in U.S. history, Robert H. Jackson, addressed a gathering of U.S. attorneys in the Great Hall at the Department of Justice in Washington. His words set a standard for how federal prosecutors should conduct themselves—a standard which seems to have faded into oblivion..........

    ........In the enforcement of laws which protect our national integrity and existence, we should prosecute any and every act of violation, but only overt acts, not the expression of opinion, or activities such as the holding of meetings, petitioning of Congress, or dissemination of news or opinions. Only by extreme care can we protect the spirit as well as the letter of our civil liberties, and to do so is a responsibility of the federal prosecutor. . .

    Is this the justice you thought was a part of our government/country?

    Let the Neighbors go.

    Their case has been corrupted by the process of a very ambitions federal attorney, Marietta Parker, supported by co-dependent/dysfunctional defense attorneys, rollover witnesses that have nothing to lose and everything to gain by giving false testimony, corrupted local police that have credibility at stake on other cases that tie to Parker's case load.

    This system is broken and cannot be trusted for justice for anyone except by a chance happening.