Archive for Tuesday, March 31, 2009

New, combined local bus routes considered

March 31, 2009


The first round of recommended operational changes for the Lawrence Transit System — including a new, combined route serving downtown, the Kansas University campus and the retail area on South Iowa Street — awaits approval today from Lawrence city commissioners.

Six recommendations in all are set to be considered by commissioners during their meeting, which begins at 6:35 p.m. today at City Hall, Sixth and Massachusetts streets.

The goal of all recommendations is to improve coordination between the city’s service, known as the T, and KU on Wheels.


Chris Ogle 9 years, 1 month ago

Lawrence Transit is now paying for additional transportation service for KU students.... Isn't that nice.
The KU on Wheels bus system has provided excellent transportation for students at KU for many years. Now, the city of Lawrence (already, damn near broke) decides that tax payers like myself need to help pay for KU Student transportation service..... Maybe Price Banks was right when he said "Lawrence is special" My question to our fearless leaders--- But where is "ED" .

madameX 9 years, 1 month ago

What, no maps of the proposed changes? Either that or the page isn't loading right on my computer...

Presumably, anyone will be allowed to ride, whatever the changes to the routes may be. So why would you think we're just paying for KU student transport? Are KU students the only ones who might need to go from downtown to Target?

Chris Ogle 9 years, 1 month ago

So why would you think we're just paying for KU student transport?

How many passengers board Downtown that want to go to target?? My guess is not enough to justify the service. Of course 90% of all boardings will be students going to, and from downtown. My guess is that KU will not continue downtown routes if the MT takes care of the job for them.

Of course the ridership stats will look better for MT because buses will probably be full of students going from Union to classes. And guess what, we (the tax payers) get to pay for this.

average 9 years, 1 month ago

So? The city pays for road repair, lane additions, stoplights, parks, paths, and all sorts of other things, that are used by KU students all the time.

madameX 9 years, 1 month ago

People don't just board in one spot and get off at one spot. If the route is well-planned, there will be people all along the route who use it. Some of them will be students, but I don't know about 90%. Besides, the T is funded by a sales tax now, which KU students pay just like everyone else.

That said, I haven't seen a map on the proposed route changes, so no comment on how useful they will be.

Chris Ogle 9 years, 1 month ago

" Besides, the T is funded by a sales tax now, "

Wonder why we are still paying the 4 mills (that was used for the T) into the general fund? Kinda got lost in the budget didn't it.

You have a good point about students paying sales tax. They also pay a hefty fee for KU on Wheels each semester.

My concern is that Lawrence simply can't afford to start taking over( parts) of KU student transportation. This is how we get in trouble on services provided by the city. . It usually starts one little step at a time, and while most of us don't have the time to keep up on city expenses, the one little step could grow into a black hole. I just hope the city is paying attention on this.

average 9 years, 1 month ago

xbusguy -

Even excluding students entirely, KU is the largest employer in the city, is it not? Of people with houses and sales taxes and everything. If you have a bus system at all, with getting people to employment as a goal, you aren't exactly going to leave KU off the map, are you?

And, if you actually see the proposal (, this is simply a matter of coordinating a city and a KU route to have 40-minute-headway coverage across campus, as opposed to the current system of some-buses-80/some-buses-30 system. Designed to be cost-neutral to both KU and the City, just improving both (and I'm almost certain it will improve ridership).

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