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Commissioner: Proposal to rename Missouri Street ‘petty and childish’

Highberger says Don Fambrough should be honored in another way

Lawrence city commissioners will meet Tuesday to discuss changing Missouri Street to Don Fambrough Street.

Lawrence city commissioners will meet Tuesday to discuss changing Missouri Street to Don Fambrough Street.

March 20, 2009, 2:47 p.m. Updated March 20, 2009, 5:16 p.m.

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There’s just something about Missouri that puts everybody on edge here.

City commissioners on Tuesday will take up a proposal to change the name of a portion of Missouri Street to Fambrough Drive, in honor of former Kansas University football coach and eternal Missouri hater Don Fambrough.

But the proposal has disgusted City Commissioner Boog Highberger as much as any that has come before him during his six years on the commission.

“The idea that we hate Missouri and we’re going to change the name of the street because of that, just seems wrong,” Highberger said. “The idea of changing the name of a street for a sports rivalry seems really petty and childish to me.”

But supporters of the change say Highberger has it wrong. Commissioner Sue Hack, who brought up the idea of the name change earlier this month said the gesture isn’t done out of hatred.

“This has a lot to do with honoring a humble man who has given a lot to this community,” Hack said. “If it were about the hatred of Missouri, I would have suggested not even having a Missouri Street in Lawrence at all.”

Originally, the proposal was to rename the street from Ninth to 11th streets. Now, the proposal is just to rename just the 1000 block, the one block closest to KU’s Memorial Stadium, the site where Fambrough served as head coach for eight seasons.

Hack said she had been open to renaming a different street near the stadium, but said Missouri Street made the most sense because it had fewer single-family homes that would be affected by the address change.

City staff have estimated about 90 living units, including apartments, would require an address change. Hack, though, said she thought the change could be manageable. She pointed to a change several years ago to rename a portion of 15th Street as Bob Billings Parkway, in honor of a late community leader and real estate developer.

Highberger, though, said he has not heard any support for the name change from residents who live along the street. He also has heard from people who have expressed concern about changing the historic fabric of the area by renaming the street. Highberger said it appears the street has been named Missouri since at least 1863, the same year that Missouri ruffian William Quantrill raided and burned Lawrence.

“If the survivors of the real Border War can name a street Missouri and live with it, we can probably live with it, too,” Highberger said.

Highberger, however, has received about 30 e-mails from former KU football players urging a change in the name.

Both Highberger and Hack will leave the commission in April. Neither chose to run for re-election. Highberger said he hopes to get the issue settled so the future commission won’t have to deal with it.

“I think it may be the worst idea I’ve heard since I’ve been on the commission,” Highberger said. “What’s happened is we have a good idea married to a bad idea. The good idea is doing something to honor Coach Fambrough. But the bad idea is changing the name of a street for this reason.”

Highberger said he hoped the university could come up with an appropriate way to honor Fambrough.

But Hack said she supported this idea because she believes Fambrough’s contributions have extended beyond KU’s borders and into the entire community.

If three out of the five city commissioners agree, the name of the street will be changed.

Comments

kujayhawk 5 years, 9 months ago

“The idea that we hate Missouri and we’re going to change the name of the street because of that, just seems wrong,” Highberger said. “The idea of changing the name of a street for a sports rivalry seems really petty and childish to me.”

From a guy named Boog.

just_another_bozo_on_this_bus 5 years, 9 months ago

What's his name got to do with it, kujayhawk? (And do I need to remind you that you go by the name of an imaginary bird?)

I think Boog is exaggerating a bit. This really is a stupid idea, but probably not the stupidest idea of the last six years.

Bob_Keeshan 5 years, 9 months ago

Petty and childish? Of course it is.

But it is also totally awesome.

LiberalDude 5 years, 9 months ago

I'm with Sue Hack on this one. Change the name of the street.

BigAl 5 years, 9 months ago

"Lighten up Francis"

Rename it. Have some fun with it. There is absolutely nothing wrong with a "life can be fun" attitude.

Just do it.

missouri_street 5 years, 9 months ago

This proposal is being coordinated by former football players, the lettermans club (K-Club), and the KU Athletic Department.

They have many far superior ways to honor Coach Fam around the Stadium....where tens of thousands more would actually see the recognition.

Raider 5 years, 9 months ago

Boog is an idiot, and this just proves it. he has bungled so many things during his tenure on the CC. I'm so glad he is gone from the commission.

Lenette Hamm 5 years, 9 months ago

“This has a lot to do with honoring a humble man who has given a lot to this community,” Hack said. “If it were about the hatred of Missouri, I would have suggested not even having a Missouri Street in Lawrence at all.”

Petty and childish is correct ~ honor Fambrough in a way that would not harm the history of Lawrence (and the reason why streets are names as they are!), and be worthy of recognition. Not only in Lawrence, but across the nation.

And as an aside, renaming part of W. 15th Street was nuts... with all the 'new' streets going in around the Alvamar area, why not have created one to recognize Billings?

DemoParty 5 years, 9 months ago

"Humble" isn't a word I'd ever associate with the man.

FatTony 5 years, 9 months ago

Why don't they just put up a sign that says "Honorable Don Fambrough St". Place it above the actual Missouri street sign so that people get why that stretch is Honorable Don Fambrough street while at the same time not actually changing the name of the street keeping the mailing addresses the same. This is done in large major cities all the time.

cthulhu_4_president 5 years, 9 months ago

"Proposal to rename Missouri Street ‘petty and childish’". Hmmm, kind of like every sports team rivalry in existance. The shoe seems to fit...I see no problem with the decision to rename!

oohmgrover 5 years, 9 months ago

Good lord, why are people wasting time on this? If they haven't noticed, the economy is falling down around us and they are bickering over some border war that is played up to sell merchandise and increase ratings and ticket sales for Mizzou/KU games.

EarthaKitt 5 years, 9 months ago

When someone is recognized on some existing stretch of highway don't they just put up a sign -- "The Mickey Mouse Memorial Highway" or the like? Why do we have to screw up people's addresses, mess with the cool progression of state street names and act like a bunch of Missouri-hating doofuses (doofi)?

I agree with others that there surely must be better ways to honor someone. How about another $32 billion gateway?

HootyWho 5 years, 9 months ago

why is the City Commision wasting time with this? do something worth doing,,,

dipweed 5 years, 9 months ago

At least they're not considering renaming a numbered street again like they did with 15th Street (Bob Billings Parkway). I always have to explain to visitors that its really 15th street and they aren't lost. Don't just rename a "portion" of Missouri, rename the whole damn street so that its at least consistent.

webmocker 5 years, 9 months ago

No renamings of existing roads until they return Wakarusa Drive to its proper name: Dragstrip Road.

Chris Ogle 5 years, 9 months ago

Just name it NO Parking and piss off everyone....

Bossa_Nova 5 years, 9 months ago

this will only prove that our city really is not progressive and is full of spitefull rednecks who are still fighting the civil war. grow up sue

HermioneElliott 5 years, 9 months ago

xbusguy I love your remark and totally agree with it. Let's all deluge City Hall with demands that Missouri Street be henceforth No Parking. Or we could be scofflaws and tiptoe out in the darkness of night and put up signs.

Michael Capra 5 years, 9 months ago

back away from the bong booger you have done nothing since you have been here you are an embarressment to lawrence good ridance

Michael Capra 5 years, 9 months ago

lets call it merrill blvd and he and boog can mow all there lawns for free

clarkentsman 5 years, 9 months ago

Wait a minute - the guy who, as the mayor of Lawrence, proclaimed February 4, April 1, March 28, July 15, August 2, August 7, August 16, August 26, September 18, September 22, October 1, October 17, and October 26, 2006 as International Dadaism Month.

From Harpers Magazine - March 2006 http://www.harpers.org/archive/2006/03/0080957

That's the matter with Kansas By Dennis Highberger

From a proclamation issued December 27, 2005, by Dennis Highberger, mayor of Lawrence, Kansas, which calls itself the “City of the Arts.” The thirteen days of commemoration were chosen by rolling dice and picking numbers out of a hat.

WHEREAS: Dadaism is an international tendency in art that seeks to change conventional attitudes and practices in aesthetics, society, and morality; and

WHEREAS: Dadaism may or may not have come into being in the summer of 1916 at the Cabaret Voltaire at 1 Spiegelgasse in Zurich, Switzerland, with the participation of Hugo Ball, Tristan Tzara, Emmy Hennings, Marcel and Georges Janco, Jean Arp, and Richard Huelsenbeck; and

WHEREAS: The central message of Dada is the realization that reason and anti-reason, sense and nonsense, design and chance, consciousness and unconsciousness, belong together as necessary parts of a whole; and

WHEREAS: Dada is a virgin microbe that penetrates with the insistence of air into all those spaces that reason has failed to fill with words and conventions; and

WHEREAS: zimzim urallala zimzim urallala zimzim zanzibar zimzalla zam;

NOW, THEREFORE, I, Dennis Highberger, Mayor of the City of Lawrence, Kansas, do hereby proclaim the days of February 4, March 28, April 1, July 15, August 2, August 7, August 16, August 26, September 18, September 22, October 1, October 17, and October 26, 2006, as “International Dadaism Month.”

and

Dadists Loose in Lawrence, Kansas by Jesse Nathan‚ Jan. 04‚ 2006

(Ed. Note: With Kansas increasingly identified as the symbol of American backwardness, we thought our readers should know about some positive trends in the state)

http://www.beyondchron.org/news/index.php?itemid=2801

and

http://www.fark.com/cgi/ordershirt.pl?IDLink=1826027

you are absolutly right Boog

“The idea of changing the name of a street for a sports rivalry seems really petty and childish to me.”

OldEnuf2BYurDad 5 years, 9 months ago

We've already wasted enough energy on the subject.

I'm at a place where I just want my lawmakers to make good laws and quit passing sports-related resolutions. We are in a crisis... can we focus on that?

GardenMomma 5 years, 9 months ago

If it's truly not about rivalry or hatred of Missouri, change a section of Ohio street or University Blvd. Why does it have to be Missouri street? Mississippi runs right in front of Memorial Stadium, change that section.

Chris Ogle 5 years, 9 months ago

Hey Oldenuf, The city of Lawrence is in complete dream land. When will they realize the city is out of money??? .. Probably never. . Maybe that street should be called "Broke Blvd"

Phil Minkin 5 years, 9 months ago

I sent the following to the city commission: "In a time of economic crisis and our ever shrinking budget, the idea of wasting staff time and city dollars on this is pathetic. The expense of determining the costs and then spending the funds of making the signs, taking down the old signs, putting up the new signs, notifying the residents, not to mention changing maps and billing addresses could be substantial. Add to this the costs to the post office and individuals living on the street to change address labels and to notify people. Consider asking KU to name the drive just west of the stadium near the elevators after the coach rather than have the city incur this ridiculous expense,"

Chris Ogle 5 years, 9 months ago

Multi- dragstrip road was out the country then..... I wish it still was both.

tscherer4 5 years, 9 months ago

Maybe a compromise solution would be to keep the name Missouri, change it to a blvd and merely add the word sucks to it. MO Sucks Blvd.

FenixKS 5 years, 9 months ago

Oh, Boog, lighten up.

Considering how much Coach Fambrough hates Missouri, maybe he wouldn't want Missouri Street named for him.

And, on a side note, why "dada-ist" ? Patriarchial society at play once again. Should be mama-ist!

Life is short, my friends. Enjoy it.

flyin_squirrel 5 years, 9 months ago

Dadaism. Say no more Boog, you already lost all credibility...

prairie_girl 5 years, 9 months ago

I think the stretch from the top of the hill to Mississippi would be a better fit if you want to change a street name and it really doesn't have to do with a rivalry with Missouri

bearded_gnome 5 years, 9 months ago

compromise: rename Wakarusa to ... Drag Queen road?

name the next *new street after coach Fam, no matter where it is.

rename Bob Billings back to 15th.
rename clinton parkway to 23rd all the way, soon future generations will think it named after an impeached president who left presidue on a blue dress. rename barker to CT.
rename north 2nd to "north mass." where 8th st crosses the levee and hangs a left, give that stretch of roat down to the boat ramp its own name ... i.e. Boog Way?

okay?

compmd 5 years, 9 months ago

Its not like this city doesn't keep growing. If they want to name a street after someone, do it when naming a new street.

I am totally with Boog on this one.

Southwester 5 years, 9 months ago

his career record is 36-49-5... a 37% success rate.... Terry Allen was 20-53 .. and 37% success rate.. why don't we name the street after Terry Allen?

Frederic Gutknecht IV 5 years, 9 months ago

Hack up avenue... Ther should be NO panhandling, or pandering, on Missouri street!

Frederic Gutknecht IV 5 years, 9 months ago

Hack up avenue... There should be NO panhandling, or pandering, on Missouri street!

Godot 5 years, 9 months ago

Ah, yes, Dada days. Had forgotten about that.

Highberger was quite prescient, for it seems that ever since January 21, every day is a Dada day.

MooseisLoose 5 years, 9 months ago

Rename it from 11th street along side the stadium. It wouldn't effect home addresses, the new facility could have that address and we could quit wasting time on this. Solved.

Boston_Corbett 5 years, 9 months ago

If I was a newborn baby sign named Fambrough, and when I grew up and discovered my daddy was named Missouri, what would I think? How would that affect me.

Would that be sign abuse? Who could I sue?

Chris Ogle 5 years, 9 months ago

" DO NOT bring this up again"


Okey dokey sarge..... but how about renamed to "WRONG WAY"

Tony Kisner 5 years, 9 months ago

So much for embracing our differences. Better to call others names or at least belittle their ideas.

All we are saying is give peace a chance, sort of.

gontek 5 years, 9 months ago

My vote - Don't change the name.

I lived on Missouri Street. I lived there in 2003, when they came to play KU that year in late september. My brother and I sat on the lawn, reading names of towns from a road atlas, pointing and assiging town names with MU fans, like Knob Noster, Mexico, Tightwad, Ver-Sails, and my all time favorite, Sedalia. Tiger fans are so pompous.

Of KU won 35 to 14. Made my day.

Anyone remember my snow art?

gontek 5 years, 9 months ago

give the name to the "road" that goes through the parking lots over by the comptrollers office. Does that even have a name? It's KU property. Shoot get a statue of the guy or something.

SpeedRacer 5 years, 9 months ago

If this is truly about honoring the man, then why don't they name one of the streets on campus after him? How about Crescent Dr.? or one of the streets that carries the same name as a building already dedicated to an individual (i.e.,Strong Hall Dr., Hoch Auditorium Drive)? How about the field? Just because the stadium is named one thing doesn't mean the field can't be named something else.

fuel_for_the_fire 5 years, 9 months ago

This proposal makes as much sense as the "Freedom Fries" farce.

missouri_street 5 years, 9 months ago

gontek (Anonymous) says ...give the name to the “road” that goes through the parking lots over by the comptrollers office. Does that even have a name? It's KU property. Shoot get a statue of the guy or something.


Excellent idea. And why not Maine Street on campus next to the Stadium. They could put up a ton of "Fambrough" pennants lining that road on game day. It could look nice. And it would actually be honoring someone without dishonoring someone else.

The University can and has asked the city to name/rename roads on the campus before (on West Campus for instance), and the city has always consented.

Why doesn't the K-Club and KU Athletics, who are generating the emails in support of this idea, get behind these notions.

gontek 5 years, 9 months ago

Street names have been changing for the last century. Anyone remember where there were no numbered streets?

Look up the Bird's eye view of the city of Lawrence, Kansas 1869, at the Library of Congress Maps.

Better yet, check out a copy of the original plat.

gontek 5 years, 9 months ago

missouri_street (Anonymous) - I think we may be on to something here. I like your pennant idea. But lets keep one name reserved for Mangio just in case.

Maracas 5 years, 9 months ago

Is this the same Booger who gave us Dada Month a few years back? And he calls this petty and childish?

jumpin_catfish 5 years, 9 months ago

I hate to say it but it is silly and the boogmeister should know silly. But the name change on 15th to Bob Billings was dumb. Bob who?

sks6cf 5 years, 9 months ago

Guys, this is funny. No one from Missouri is going to know or even care that we removed their street sign. It's right by campus and everyone will get a good laugh.

Is there a Kansas St. in Columbia?

christy kennedy 5 years, 9 months ago

The idea of renaming MO St. reminds me of some of the genius ideas and pranks thought up by junior and senior high schoolers. No offense, kids, but we're talking about city commissioners here.

I had a bad migraine in Boston once, so I'd like to propose renaming a block of Massachusetts near my house after my favorite pain killer . . .

yankeevet 5 years, 9 months ago

How about just name it a short quick easy too remember name...................Quantrell........................

MrMister 5 years, 9 months ago

If you really think he needs a street named after him, how about the stretch of Oxford Road thet he lives on.

JimmyJoeBob 5 years, 9 months ago

I thought the worst idea of Boog's tenure was the one he and his fellow commissioners had about not letting Walmart build a store at 6th and Wakarusa. The second worst idea was to go to court and wasting additional tax dollars to keep out new jobs and additional tax revenue. Boog must have an ax to grind with Sue. Change the name

chocolateplease 5 years, 9 months ago

Boog is correct on this one. Or else MO is just so awful that we must eradicate every mention of them from our precious city streets. That's not friendly rivalry fun, it's just rude. I wonder how much it would cost to change the name (new street signs etc.?) What a waste of money that would be.

Melinda Black 5 years, 9 months ago

One of the charming historical things about this town is the use of state street names. I hope the council leaves Missouri Street alone. I suggest we honor Fambrough in another way. Why does it have to be with a street name change that diminishes our town's history? Surely we are more creative than that.

killjoy 5 years, 9 months ago

Changing existing street names is absurd. Name a roundabout after him if you want. If you think the media in Missouri won't pick this up, you're wrong. They already covered it in Kansas City and Columbia. Dear God, we're better than this. We don't need this freak show.

missouri_street 5 years, 9 months ago

This was front-page news in the Wichita Eagle today.

Just guess how stupid we look to even be spending the time on this?

shotgun 5 years, 9 months ago

Sue is a "HACK"! This is stupid! Boog, you will be missed. Sue, goood riddance!

“This has a lot to do with honoring a humble man who has given a lot to this community,” Hack said. “If it were about the hatred of Missouri, I would have suggested not even having a Missouri Street in Lawrence at all.”

What a bunch of backtracking BS!!!!!!

Sue you had better google "humble"

Eternal Missouri hater Don Fambrough, his overall coaching record at Kansas) was 37 wins, 48 losses, and 5 ties. This ranks him fourth at Kansas in terms of total wins and 26th at Kansas in terms of winning percentage.

If you want honor someone related to KU sports, I'm sure you could find a better candidate. This is purely about Missouri hatred. I've got news for you Sue, there is a whole world that exist outside of the mythical bird.

Would the City Commission please take care of business and quit focusing on this silly s**t!

drederick_tatum 5 years, 9 months ago

did you guys know theres a Kansas STreet in lawrence? its in a really obscure spot though. they should just switch the names of those 2 streets and it will establish the ku theme. just renaming 2 blocks of a street is retarded because nobody is going to call it that. i don't know anyone who says "bob billings parkway" instead of still calling it all 15th street.

hip_gma 5 years, 9 months ago

Commissioners: If these are the types of issues you deal with, do we really need you? Maybe Missouri will change the name of an entire town "KANSAS" City, MO. Yeah right. Let honoring Fambrough be up to KUAC and get the commissioners to focus on more important issues.

rodneyking 5 years, 9 months ago

Can't we all just get along...and NOT change anymore street names?

Dear Sue Hack,

Don is probably a good guy, but why do we have to change all the maps and GPSs for this silly thank you? Why do we have to explain to all the kids that the streets are in sequential order except for Missouri, which is missing or changed for a certain section? Why do have to explain to someone who needs directions that we changed the name for a coach with a losing record (I already acknowledged he's probably a nice guy). Didn't they already give him a bench by Potter? Sue, find a different way to honor him... again. Why don't you just throw him a party at your house. Leave the street names alone. p,s,: Change 15th street back to 15th street.

jonas_opines 5 years, 9 months ago

Someone proposed naming the street Petty And Childish? That's actually kind of catchy. I live on 10th and Petty and Childish!

cowboy 5 years, 9 months ago

petty and childish from the DADA man , drink a cup of shut up Boog , name that street after Fam !

bearded_gnome 5 years, 9 months ago

thanks: ranter, nudist, mmblack, and kiljoy!

yes, please stop the madness. this was dealt with once a year or more ago. pull the chain already!

please city commission, do not go along with this, consider restoring some names, and come up with a rational policy for naming future streets, and the proper conditions when to [if ever] change street names.

---> leave it alone!


Jonas, the big town near where I grew up [Salinas California] has a Tip Street, and a Top Street, and [God help us] a Tiptopstreet. if I remember correctly you can live at the corner of Tip and Top. twisted minds.

Kent Shrack 5 years, 9 months ago

I don't like change, and I don't like re-naming streets. Pick a new street for his name,, and pick one like Sue Lane or Hack Drive, I don't care, but lets quit changing the exisiting street names. It only adds confusion to visitors.

Hadley_says 5 years, 9 months ago

The change would be a pain for the residents, and who else who even notice them?

Whats wrong with something at the stadium?

Hadley_says 5 years, 9 months ago

oops..... whom else would even notice the New Street Signs.

And if you live at "10th and Missouri" now, where would you live after the renaming? And wouldn't you have to explain this to everyone anytime you give directions?

kujayhawk 5 years, 9 months ago

"just_another_bozo_on_this_bus (Anonymous) says…

What's his name got to do with it, kujayhawk? (And do I need to remind you that you go by the name of an imaginary bird?)

Good point just_another_bozo_on_bus.

9070811 5 years, 9 months ago

I vote that we change the name on the block of Mississippi to Fambrough. That is a million times more appropriate. The vipentrance to the stadium is not even directly across from Missouri. All of public entrances as well the stadium itself face directly towards Mississippi Street. If this was really about renaming a street to honor a coach, then this would be the first suggestion and the most recognizable place to do it.

9070811 5 years, 9 months ago

However, I personally believe that Mississippi Street should be named Kansas Blvd, just like the street through campus is named Jayhawk Blvd. Kansas Blvd leads straight past the stadium entering campus, crosses at Jayhawk Blvd and continues down the south hill past Watkins. Ending before the start of the residential homes. Although the process of renaming most streets is a waste of time. But that's my idea of a better idea!

moralebooster 5 years, 9 months ago

This is a moronic idea, and now we know who their queen is. Hack needs to publicly apologize for bringing this up.

RockyInn 5 years, 9 months ago

This had no support the last time it was discussed: http://www2.ljworld.com/onthestreet/2007/jan/06/mos_missouri/#c271510

Obviously Sue Hack doesn't keep up with her constituents.

Can we put it to rest forever?

H_Lecter 5 years, 9 months ago

Don't change ANY street names. Sue, why don't you talk Lew into putting a dome over the practice field so the other teams can't watch KU practice via their webcams. Name it the Fambrough dome or the Fambrough practice field. One bad idea deserves another.

dr_k 5 years, 9 months ago

It is completely juvenile to change a street name for the rivalry. If it wasn't because of the rivalry then she would be proposing Mississippi St. which is closer to the stadium. Either one would still be stupid. Why should the rest of the world have to put up with a deliberate inconvenience. It IS embarrassing. I don't care if he was Mother Theresa, Abraham Lincoln, or even Larry Flint, changing street names is moronic. When is 15th going to be changed back to 15th. Why not change 15th back to 15th and rename “Lake” Alvamar to “Lake” Billings (should be pond). I agree with other posters; Clinton Pkwy should be changed back to 23rd st. I'd be fine with changing Monterey back to Dragstrip Rd. too. Pass a law that prevents the street names from being changed by these inconsiderate idiots. (Larry Flint was humor)

Linda Aikins 5 years, 9 months ago

Good grief!

IF (in caps) this is to be done, the reason they pick Missouri street is because of the irony. Other streets wouldn't be as connected.

I do like the idea of co-naming the one block by the stadium rather than renaming it as a good compromise. This was presented by FatTony and it sounds pretty good.

This has become so personal with all the attacks against Hack and Boog and Fam, and the attacks are actually quite nasty. It's about the street, not about the people.

karen_10 5 years, 9 months ago

We gave the guy a bench. That's enough!!! Stop changing the street names!!! This discussion needs to be terminated forever.

missouri_street 5 years, 9 months ago

What is wrong with asking those on the street and in the neighborhood about the issue. That has not happened.

Why is the Athletic Department and K-Club behind this campaign? Do this at the Stadium!

And of all these email the K-Club and former football players are sending, I wonder how many of them are from people who even live in Lawrence.

@Gootsie. An irony? Be honest. It is specifically because of the Coaches disdain towards Missouri, and hence is motivated by an intent to denigrate, criticize, and inflame. How do you possibly honor someone, through the actions of dishonoring someone else?

trollkiller 5 years, 9 months ago

We don't need streets renamed for nice people. I'm a nice guy but I'd just like the Campanile renamed in my honor. If I coached KU, I'd have something else in common with Fam...a losing record.
p,s, 15th street should return to 15th street.

missouri_street 5 years, 9 months ago

What is wrong with asking those on the street and in the neighborhood about the issue. That has not happened.

Why is the Athletic Department and K-Club behind this campaign? Do this at the Stadium!

And of all these email the K-Club and former football players are sending, I wonder how many of them are from people who even live in Lawrence.

@Gootsie. An irony??? Be honest. The street was chosen specifically because of the Coaches disdain towards Missouri. No other reason.

How can you then remove the street's name without acknowledging it denigrates the State of Missouri. That is irony? No that is transparent and offensive. How can you possibly say that the act of dishonoring another would honor the Coach, KU, the City, or the State.

pace 5 years, 9 months ago

Silent sue delivers another low note. she should of resigned or been candid.

bearded_gnome 5 years, 9 months ago

please city commission: come up with policy, and make it law regarding naming of future streets, and what conditions might permit changing an existing street's name!

of course this doesn't fit the dreaded "traffic safety commission" with Dick Heckler/Merrill on it. please don't delegate it to them.

save our streets! SOS.

Linda Aikins 5 years, 9 months ago

Missouri, you seem to like to attack me and I'm not sure why. Because we don't share the same opinion?

Honestly. You will not change my feelings nor will I change yours. And that's OK!

bearded_gnome 5 years, 9 months ago

the City Commission meets tuesday night 6;35p.m. and takes public comment. they meet just inside the door on the ground floor of city hall it is easy to find the Commission room. I believe this issue will be up this tuesday and public comment will be sought at the meeting.

please attend the meeting and express yourselves!

missouri_street 5 years, 9 months ago

Gootsie, my response to your posts and questions of your position is hardly an attack.

Yes we disagree.

bearded_gnome 5 years, 9 months ago

hey marion, the only street in south lawrence named for a president is little ol' garfield street near 13th and delaware. so, maybe Obama st. would be appropriate then, but you'd have to find a: one-way; downhill; hard swerve to the left; all in one street with a 60mph speed limit!

pissedinlawrence 5 years, 9 months ago

I have a HUGE boil on my as, i mean, bottom. Ouch.

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