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Kansas wind industry booming

March 19, 2009

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— Kansas has tripled its wind generating capacity in the last 15 months, and wind power supporters are hoping that is just the beginning.

Flat Ridge Wind Farm in Nashville, about 60 miles southwest of Wichita, began operations recently and will generate about 100 megawatts of power a year. And the Central Plains Wind Farm in Marienthal, just east of Leoti, is partially online. It will produce 99 megawatts when fully operational.

The two new wind farms make Kansas one of the few states in the country that can now generate more than 1,000 megawatts of wind power a year.

Government and industry officials say Kansas is making strides in taking advantage of its windy conditions, but there is still a long way to go to make wind energy profitable in the state.

Comments

Bill Griffith 5 years, 1 month ago

OLR, Can you also toss into the mix how much of a subsidy the oil interests receive altogether from Uncle Sam? How about the nuclear industry? Coal? Thanks.

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gphawk89 5 years, 1 month ago

I grew up in Kansas and never heard of Marienthal or Leoti. And I didn't know we had a "Nashville" either. Then again, how many Lawrence residents know we have a "Covert" and a "Hunter"?

"generate more than 1,000 megawatts of wind power a year" "generate about 100 megawatts of power a year" Something doesn't sound quite right with these statements. Does the writer mean megawatt-hours? Saying "megawatts per year" is like saying a car has 200 horsepower per year.

Not sure if I agree with anyone's assessment of western KS wind. Seems like it blows day and night...

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OnlyLawrenceRepublican 5 years, 1 month ago

"Exactly how much is it costing me?"

I'm not sure about how much it costs you, personally, but it's estimated that the 2008 PTC was a $42 billion subsidy.

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Bill Griffith 5 years, 1 month ago

Based upon comments by KCPL and Westar, we should have another 600 MW of wind power up and running in Kansas within a couple of years or so. BPU, Sunflower, and Midwest may also be in the mix for more wind-generated electricity either from Tradewind's Smoky Hills windfarm or someplace else. I doubt if we double within three years but we might-I guess they must have factored in the joules needed and the math still works out.

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XD40 5 years, 1 month ago

Wind and solar are just supplements. We need coal and nuclear to provide base generation. Here's what the Obamessiah and his butt-boys on the fascist environmental left have in store for you:

http://blog.heritage.org/2009/03/19/obama-will-shock-consumers-with-higher-electric-bills/

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KsTwister 5 years, 1 month ago

If George really was from Western Kansas he would know the wind starts blowing every night about 7pm. I only know this because I thought it odd that when visiting family out there they always point it out. And it does. Try again George. When the oil runs out or people are paying $6.00 a gallon to OPEC I guarantee it will be booming to have those turbines.

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JohnBrown 5 years, 1 month ago

Even if wind energy is created at a loss its still a win for the USA if we buy American and the electricity can be made available to transportation.

ANY energy we can produce here and not buy from the Middle East or Venezuela is good.

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Agnostick 5 years, 1 month ago

Horace: How big is your sail?

After all, preparation is the key. Something about, "you reap what you sew..."

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Horace 5 years, 1 month ago

Does anyone know how much wind it takes to push my car down K-10 at 70mph?

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kmat 5 years, 1 month ago

Hey George - you poor baby. There's a chance you can't stay at a perfect 70 degrees all the time? I feel for you. How did anyone ever exist without AC? They must have all died from heat exhaustion before AC was invented. How did the human race survive for so many years before they had all the modern conveniences we have now?

Keep on crying. That wind will just blow your tears away.

I didn't know we grew whiners and sunflowers out in western KS.

Have you ever thought about the fact that not all electricity is going to come from wind and solar and that they aren't going to cut off your electricity? We can have multiple energy sources and wind is just one of them. I think the education system is lacking in W. KS. I always heard that all the money went to the SM school district. I guess it does.

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gccs14r 5 years, 1 month ago

Fortunately, the sun is always up and the wind is always blowing somewhere.

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RedwoodCoast 5 years, 1 month ago

Ag--

One of the things that really bugs me about anti-wind/anti-sustainability folks is that they seem to be operating under the assumption that those technologies are static, meaning that they are as developed as they will ever be. To me, it sounds like people who are against these technologies are against them simply because they don't like the people who are promoting the technologies (i.e.--"feel-good" "liberal" "hippie"-types). It's really sad that detractors seem to have an inability to look beyond the cultural aspects of this debate.

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georgeofwesternkansas 5 years, 1 month ago

Wind will be good if you don't mind the "smart grid".

Hey, my a/c is off it is really hot in here. Oh yea, the "smart grid " shut it down cause they need the power someplace else.

The wind stops blowing when the sun is going down, have you ever noticed that??

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spankyandcranky 5 years, 1 month ago

Any business starting out takes time to create a profit because of building costs. I'm glad to see we've finally finished building some wind farms. I feel that they're a step in the right direction and I appreciate that this state is finally using some of it's natural resources for it's own gain. I'm sure the possibility of tornadoes were taken into account when designing the structures -- although a big enough tornado can probably cause damage to just about any soundly built item ... I guess that's something most people in Kansas are aware of already without someone mentioning it in a response to an article.

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Agnostick 5 years, 1 month ago

RedwoodCoast (Anonymous) says…

"I've often wondered what a tornado would do to a wind energy installation. Eventually, we will find out."


They're probably something like this:

http://www.usmra.com/saxsewell/historical.htm

In all seriousness, we can't prepare for everything, can we? There probably will be accidents, disasters etc. Some of them avoidable, some not. When you look at the "long history" of mining disasters, it seems that for the most part, they were more frequent and more severe in the peak days of the industry; as technology and safety procedures improve, fewer accidents, and fewer deaths.

Only logical that we'd see a similar progression with wind energy, if it's still around 100 years from now.

The bigger questions persist:

1) How much coal are we likely to have available, 100 years from now?

2) How much petroleum are we likely to have available, 100 years from now?

3) How much wind are we likely to have available, 100 years from now?

4) How much sunlight are we likely to have available, 100 years from now?

Agnostick agnostick@excite.com

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flamingdragon 5 years, 1 month ago

ahh...tornado-proof coal plants. I tried to raise a rubber tree once, but it consume so much water. Maybe I will get coal plant seed and put on ground in front of my house. sexy govenor try to block it but I will raise it on my own property. I also raise tulips plants. this wind energy so bad for kansas. You know you cannot trust wind. it might stop,and then get mad at you and go to nebraska from now on, then what you do with silly propellors but make a propellor amusement park? I will come back to Kansas this spring, yankees, so just calm down. You listen to flamingdragon, and I fix you all up good again.

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elfth 5 years, 1 month ago

Very insightful comments. We can all sleep easy knowing we have tornado proof coal generation.

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XD40 5 years, 1 month ago

Sow the wind. Reap the whirlwind.

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RedwoodCoast 5 years, 1 month ago

I've often wondered what a tornado would do to a wind energy installation. Eventually, we will find out.

Such a poopy technology. We shouldn't even be bothering with it. We don't want to throw any bones to hippie environmentalists and their feel-good poopy energy ideas.

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bobberboy 5 years, 1 month ago

Aaaa quit yer' complainin' ya' bunch of morons !

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ArumerZwarteHoop 5 years, 1 month ago

Not so much the tax payer but the energy user, but higher energy rates are nice ancillary benefit for the environmentalist, higher prices=more conservation.

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truman1902 5 years, 1 month ago

Good to see these mammoth structures looming large from my car window outside of Salina on I-70...With tornado season just ahead, I'm looking forward to how these behemoths sustain the F1's to F5's force winds surely headed in their direction ..

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Agnostick 5 years, 1 month ago

WHY (Anonymous) says…

Hey hows business going? Its booming!!! Sounds great. Yeah but I don't make any money and it cost taxpayers a fortune."


I'm a taxpayer. Exactly how much is it costing me? And why is this bad?

Agnostick agnostick@excite.com

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WHY 5 years, 1 month ago

The industry is booming but not profitable?????

Hey hows business going? Its booming!!! Sounds great. Yeah but I don't make any money and it cost taxpayers a fortune.

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