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Candidate discusses details of bankruptcy

March 5, 2009

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Gwen Klingenberg is running for one of three seats opening on the Lawrence City Commission, while still in the shadow of filing for bankruptcy just four months ago.

“I was upfront and honest with everybody about this,” Klingenberg said of the Chapter 13 bankruptcy protection that she and her husband sought. “But I still had people telling me to go through with the campaign. They said lots of people were going through this.

“And this was related to a medical condition. It was not because I didn’t want to work or was lazy.”

Here are some of the details of the bankruptcy:

● Klingenberg hurt her back by lifting several large containers of paint while working as an office employee for Lawrence Habitat for Humanity in March 2007. The injury required two surgeries. Klingenberg filed for workers compensation, and was unemployed for about 18 months, she said. Klingenberg said the time she was off work should have been shorter, but she said the state’s workers compensation program delayed approving her second surgery.

● During the time that Klingenberg was off work, she and her husband — a Journal-World pressman — were unable to keep up with their bills. According to the bankruptcy filing, Klingenberg and her husband owe 40 creditors a total of $80,448. The amount does not include the couple’s mortgage. The creditors include credit card companies, payday loan companies, and a handful of local businesses. Overall — when the couple’s mortgage and personal property are included in the equation — the filing lists the couple as having $233,003 in liabilities and $237,210 in assets.

● According to the filing, the couple was responsible for writing some checks without having sufficient funds to cover the checks. The filing lists eight instances where creditors are claiming checks were bounced. The checks totaled $1,007.

● The filing details that the couple was having trouble paying their federal and state income taxes prior to Klingenberg’s medical problems in 2007. The filing includes claims from the Internal Revenue Service and the Kansas Department of Revenue for tax payments from 2005, 2006 and 2007. The couple owe a total of $11,498 in tax payments to the state and federal government.

Klingenberg said she’s not entirely clear how the couple fell behind in their tax payments.

“We’re not exactly sure what happened,” said Klingenberg, who said she and her husband mistakenly believed they were having enough money taken out of their paychecks to cover their taxes.

Klingenberg said she and her husband were in contact with the IRS prior to the bankruptcy filing to try to rectify the back taxes.

Klingenberg said her financial problems should not cause people to have concerns about her ability to serve on the commission, which oversees the city’s budget of approximately $146 million. Klingenberg said much of her financial problems were out of her control because of the slow response time by the workers compensation program to approve her surgery and benefits.

“My hands were tied,” Klingenberg said. “I was not allowed to work. When somebody else is controlling your life, it is impossible to keep your head above water.”

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Marion Lynn 5 years, 1 month ago

bangaranggerg (Anonymous) says…

The story quotes her as saying: “When somebody else is controlling your life, it is impossible to keep your head above water”.. Wow, that's pathetic. Is she running under a complete incompetence platform? I'm not saying it hasn't worked in the past."

Marion writes:

A person whose life is controlled by others is, of course, the ideal person to have representing you on the City Commisssion.

At least she is honest about it.

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Benjamin Roberts 5 years, 1 month ago

alm77 (Anonymous) says… "Okay, so we've established that she's no financial genius. Anyone have any problems with her policies?"

I think that has already been answered. Since you missed it I will review the problems.

First, I reject her policy to blame the wrong entity regarding her Workers Compensation claim. This demonstrates her ignorance of Human Resource issues, a significant deficit for the city’s fourth largest employer.

Second, I have a problem with her policy of writing fraudulent checks.

Third, her personal policy of dealing with financial deficits by using high cost payday loan institutions does not reflect the type of fiscal policy needed by a city struggling with its budget.

Fourth, her policy of not paying taxes for three consecutive years is a problem, especially in light of her lobbying for tax sponsored services during that same period.

“That’s all I have to say about that.”

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bangaranggerg 5 years, 1 month ago

The story quotes her as saying: "When somebody else is controlling your life, it is impossible to keep your head above water".. Wow, that's pathetic. Is she running under a complete incompetence platform? I'm not saying it hasn't worked in the past.

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alm77 5 years, 1 month ago

Okay, so we've established that she's no financial genius. Anyone have any problems with her policies?

I've seen her in action at the city commission meetings and it's incredible. She's brought up points and made the commission ask important questions to themselves and Mr. Corliss.

Speaking of Mr. Corliss, wouldn't he be the one that's responsible for the city's money? I'm just thinking maybe her lack of financial wherewithal is a non-issue since she won't be writing checks or balancing the checkbook herself.

Let's get real for a moment here. She helped to lead the fight against Wal-mart, which failed, but was a very organized effort and she helped to save the T. Everyone here arguing against her as viable candidate also disagreed with her previous work, but she has had a fair amount of success. You cannot count her out.

Again, I admire her service, but I am cautious.

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Godot 5 years, 1 month ago

"Overall — when the couple’s mortgage and personal property are included in the equation — the filing lists the couple as having $233,003 in liabilities and $237,210 in assets."

Looks to me like the Klingenbergs could sell everything they own and pay back the money they borrowed and make good on the goods and services they consumed. And they would still have $4,204 left over to start over with a clean slate. That would be the honorable thing to do.

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swan_diver 5 years, 1 month ago

jayhawhlawrence: "Why is it so difficult to attract the very qualified and talented people who know how to manage a budget and attract quality businesses and people to Lawrence?

Now this question is getting to the crux of the matter! One of the biggest problems with Lawrence is its 'boutique' governmental control system. The city commission, with its at-large seats, essentially un-paid posts, and beauty contest-style elections is responsible for producing this biannual crop of would-be public servants. Lawrence, like any community of reasonable size, should be governed by people working within a structure that has true public accountability, with a 'legislative' branch, and an 'executive' branch, that interact with one-another, on behalf of broad public interest. The legislators (commissioners) should be paid decent salaries for what is essentially a full-time plus job -- and the city should have a real mayor, elected at large specifically to a post that has some authority and power over administration (city management).

The current 'boutique' structure of Manager-Commission government, coming from Kansas statutory law, was designed to allow local business, banking and real estate interests, chosen in these 'beauty contest' electoral formats, which don't actually pit individuals and their ideas against one another, at election -- to shield the real administration of a city from public view, and public influence. The unelected city manager runs the day-to-day affairs of the city, and often as the most highly-paid public official in the community -- serving at the 'pleasure' of, in our case, five very poorly paid 'volunteers,' elected at-large, in beauty-contest polls, where fewer than 20% of qualified voters participate.

This kind of system is anti-democratic, unaccountable, and, in my view, largely responsible for the phenomenon addressed by 'jayhawklawence' which asks why municipal elections attract such crops of mediocre candidates year in and year out.

I would suggest that we should pay our representative in city government a 'living wage,' so these positions are opened to everyone in the community -- and create an at-large, directly-elected mayoralty, also decently paid, which focuses the public will, in electoral cycle debates, with at least some authority over city management, and culpability for the failures of mismanagement.

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medyas 5 years, 1 month ago

sunrunner1960- being a wonderful person doesn't make the fact that a person can still be very irresponsible. If a person serves the public one thing they should think is to be a good rule model , not unless the US has no moral values to speak of already, which is a shame and will lead the US to go down. It always starts below. Everybody has their own problems and I know people who make very little money and can still make ends meet---the problem is most US households live BEYOND their means and when things gets tough they don't have any thing to fall back on. They live as if their is no tomorrow and one thing, people who file for bankruptcy specially for being irresponsible doesn't know that the business they owe money are also hard working people to make money to live.

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yankeevet 5 years, 1 month ago

Seems like alot of those polticians owe tax money; hummmmmmmm;.........

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KS 5 years, 1 month ago

monkeyhawk - As the old saying goes, "it is not necessarily what you say, but how you say it". The Liberals will always use personal attacks when they can not effectively argue a point. Lose an argument? Attack your opponent!

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monkeyhawk 5 years, 1 month ago

For those whose sensibilities have been offended: remember Joe the Plumber and the scrutiny he was subjected to merely for asking a question? Or Sarah Palin and the media invasion scavenging for the slightest bit of dirt? Did that offend you? Probably not, it didn't offend me. I understand that if someone steps into the spotlight they are open to public view, unless they are the darlings of the media. I don't think that's the case with this person.

On the positive side, she is excellently positioned for a cramdown.

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KS 5 years, 1 month ago

Marion - They are NOT progressives. They are liberals, thru and thru. Never will be anything else, because there are just some people that can't navigate thru life without blaming someone else for their problems. It is what it is.

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jayhawklawrence 5 years, 1 month ago

It is obvious to me that this woman is not qualified to be a city commissioner and be in the position to manage a multi-million dollar budget.

That being said, why is it so difficult to attract the very qualified and talented people who know how to manage a budget and attract quality businesses and people to Lawrence?

When I read the negative comments on this blog by the same group of people everyday, it is hard to imagine anyone feeling welcome or inspired to tackle the job.

So I think the talent pool will be very small whenever there is a city election in this town.

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Marion Lynn 5 years, 1 month ago

There was another city commissioner who filed a chapter proceeding in recent years.

Anyone remember who that was?

Seems to me that it was another of the "progressives".

Is financial ineptitude kind of a thing in "progressivism"?

I dunno.

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jlw53 5 years, 1 month ago

Sycophant - you missed the point. I was referring to the Workmans Compensation which is run by the inefficient government and furthered her problems with bureaucratic delays. Is that how you want to be treated? Let someone competent take care of it like a private insurance company that answers to the state Insurance commissioner. She would get results and people wouldn't be hurt further with delays. It seems apparent she needed the other surgery and should have rightfully gotten it without delay.

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Bob Forer 5 years, 1 month ago

jlw53 (Anonymous) says…

"I believe she was a strong Obama supporter. All the more reason that “government” should have even more control over our lives. Or maybe not, huh, Gwen. This is clearly the direction the new administration is taking us."

The "big government bad. It cxontrols us" is a myth created by the wealthy to hide the real issues:

who should control government. The wealthy., Or the people.

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sourpuss 5 years, 1 month ago

Geez, people, if you don't like her, don't vote for her. Sounds like she has enough problems without half the city badmouthing her. No wonder so many people don't want to be involved in politics.

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MaxMMPower 5 years, 1 month ago

When was the last time Lawrence had a city commission that was composed of anything other than a majority of weirdos, power-trippers, pork-barrel-fillers, flakes, snarks, residency-cheats, dull-normals, laughing-stocks, and many other forms of ass-clown?

Several of the candidates who "look good"at this point and talk a good, bland game are in the pockets of the same Bushian low-lifes who think there are still a couple of dollars to suck out of the bank accounts and retirement funds of working people. They are likely to win because they can spew forth pretty much what the Lawrencian mass wants to hear. But they will do what suits them and this is not likely to suit Lawrence in the long run.

And most of the pundits who are posting comments about this election will probably not get off their duffs and vote anyway - Instead, they will sit at their anonymous computers feeling superior as they spout their ill-considered and self-satisfied judgments of a woman who seems to be both honest about her troubles and her mistakes and yet is still willing to devote her time and effort to actually doing something for her community. And that's as close to the democratic process as they will get.

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Benjamin Roberts 5 years, 1 month ago

Sunrunner1960, the choice of chapter 13 versus chapter 7 bankruptcy is an important choice. Again, to simply state that 13 is a more valiant choice is baseless since we have not been told the reason. If, the Klingenberg's chose chapter 13 because they felt morally compelled to meet all their debts, then kudos to them. However, if the reason was mandated due to one of the reasons set out by law then it was not a moral choice; it was simply the only legal choice. Without knowing the actual reason for the choice of chapter 13 we cannot attribute it to moral high ground. Ms. Klingenberg could resolve this question with a letter to the editor. However, it would not resolve the fact that the City of Lawrence will present a similar financial challenge, only on a much greater scale.

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gl0ck0wn3r 5 years, 1 month ago

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sunrunner1960 5 years, 1 month ago

Let's be very clear on this. I am in no way saying that Mrs. Klingenberg did not open herself up to scrutiny. In fact, a truly informed public would scrutinize all their candidates and vote according to their understanding of the issues at hand. However, there is a huge difference between scrutiny and just plain being nasty and calling names. I stand behind my earlier statements. There is still a huge difference between a Chapter 7 and a Chapter 13 bankruptcy, and it is not to be taken lightly, nor is it "baseless". Shame on those of you who do not know the difference. Because the Klingenbergs are paying their creditors, for whatever reason they filed Chapter 13. They are not trying to skip out on their debt.

Gwen, keep your chin up. There are people out here who really care about you and and know what you have to offer the city of Lawrence. Remember, in the darkest night, a light will shine through. As I said before, you do have now, and will continue to have my vote. Hang in there!

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Bob Forer 5 years, 1 month ago

gwen, your financial crisis separates you from the majority of candiates in one particular way: you are one of us. And who do we want represneting us? A representatie from the wealthy, who choose their candidancy to inhance their idividual finanacial status and that of their cronies. Or, two, to represent the interests of the vast majority of ciizens. Abraham Lincoln once said that God must love the comon. He made so many of them.

You have my vote, girl. Thanks for you tenancity.

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Steven Gaudreau 5 years, 1 month ago

I'm shocked anyone has the balls to defend this womens actions. It clearly states that she was financially irresponsible before her injury. Then bouncing checks?!?!!? WTF! How can anyone justify stealing from someone else? That's what bouncing a check is, fraud and theft. Only in Lawrence would some nut jobs think a person with her past make a good candidate to make financial decisions for our city.

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Marion Lynn 5 years, 1 month ago

Readers may or may not know that I am getting a real kick out of this thread.

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Benjamin Roberts 5 years, 1 month ago

Sunrunner1960, I can tell that you care about Ms. Klingenberg and are defending her based upon that, and that is commendable. However, that does not negate the voter’s obligation to determine a candidate’s qualifications for office.

Filing chapter 13 bankruptcy does not mean that Ms. Klingenberg is incapable of handling finances. However, your defense of her using chapter 13 instead of chapter seven is baseless. Ms. Klingenberg did not discuss why she chose chapter 13. It could have been for any of several reasons. First, the couple may have preferred not to liquidate and lose non-exempt assets. Second, they may not have met the means test for abuse of chapter 7. Third, they could have had previous credit counceling agreements. It really does not matter because, no matter the reason chapter 13 is still bankruptcy.

My concern with Ms. Klingenberg would be in regard to her lack of knowledge. First, she states, “…the time she was off work should have been shorter, but she said the state’s workers compensation program delayed approving her second surgery.” The state does not approve worker’s compensation payments; the insurance company does. This misunderstanding is not significant unless one is seeking to oversee the city’s 4th largest employer, which Ms. Klingenberg is doing.

Second, is the issue of insufficiently funded checks. This is not a good sign for someone seeking to be actively involved in budgeting. Sunrunner1960’s defense only exasperates the offence.

Third, creditors included payday loan companies. I understand that people have to use these services at times. However, those who must rely upon this type of service in order to manage their budgets are not what we need to manage the current city budget. Ms. Klingenberg obviously had some hard times and ended up in financial disaster. The city is currently heading towards financial disaster. Ms. Klingenberg’s method of dealing with financial disaster is not acceptable for the City of Lawrence.

Fourth, most anyone can be sympathetic to having tax problems. However, “(to)not (be) entirely clear how the couple fell behind in their tax payments,” is not an acceptable answer. She is asking to have a part in overseeing $146M of city tax money when she lost track of $11K or her own tax money. It would not be rational to put her in that situation.

It is unfortunate that Ms. Klingenberg had an injury accident. I wish her the best in physical and financial recovery. However, overseeing the City of Lawrence should not be included in her recovery package.

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commuter 5 years, 1 month ago

Merrill: Wake up. I am confused; they rang up 80K in debt (outside of their mortgage) but didn't use any equity in their house to pay down their debt? Did they try to enter into a payment plan with their creditors outside of bankruptcy???????

Also, why is an office worker for Habitat for Humanity trying to lift several containers of paint?????? To me I question her judgement and her motives!!!

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bearded_gnome 5 years, 1 month ago

oh yeah, Merrill/Richard Heckler endorses her! he's backing CC&K! so we certainly know from that alone how to vote on CC&K: NO!

? According to the filing, the couple was responsible for writing some checks without having sufficient funds to cover the checks. The filing lists eight instances where creditors are claiming checks were bounced. The checks totaled $1,007.

unless she can show check(s) she thought and any reasonable person would believe they were deposited, but were not, this is a very bad sign. the 40-creditors, not so hard to get to with medical trouble and the workers comp probably really screwed them over royally. workers comp doesn't have a very good track record.

no, we don't need one more "progressive" elected, C C or K.

in the 1930's word went out from Moscow that U.S. communists and their sympathizers should call themselves "progressives."

and, as to AIG, John Kerry is really really big into them! or rather, AIG is very big into Kerry. Kerry, the demorat president candidate in 2004.

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Larry_The_Moocher 5 years, 1 month ago

Count me among the negative. I see it as a positive in that I am positive this city has had enough people with Heart and enthusiasm.

What we need is someone with the guts enough to reduce the city staff by 1/3rd, put the empT back on the ballot since there is zero money, fire the idiot that thinks we can save money by putting solor panels on the emergency vehicles... etc....

The last city commissioner that I know of that filed bankruptcy was a real winner also in that he quit a 60K job for a 10K job... jez... progressives? I think not... more like mentally ill.

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Richard Heckler 5 years, 1 month ago

This bankruptcy issue has nothing to do with anything other than an attempt at character assassination.

People file bankruptcy everyday not necessarily due to mismanagement of any sort. Medical,laid off or economy goes sour perhaps. One thing in Gwens favor is the fact that over the past 3 years she has educated herself on building codes and ordinances,Lawrence growth plans,is familiar with neighborhood concerns and supports economic growth. Gwen is ready for the job.

Consider that Chestnut,Dever,Amyx and Hack are local business people and/or who have been commissioners for a number of years: *Economic Growth Problems in Lawrence http://www2.ljworld.com/polls/2007/sep/why_do_you_think_lawrence_growth_lagging/

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gl0ck0wn3r 5 years, 1 month ago

"“We’re not exactly sure what happened,” said Klingenberg, who said she and her husband mistakenly believed they were having enough money taken out of their paychecks to cover their taxes."

Yeah... this is exactly someone who should be managing Lawrence's budget... On the positive side, at least she has experience writing worthless checks - Lawrence is pretty good at spending money it doesn't have.

"sunrunner1960 (Anonymous) says… I read all of these negative comments and I find myself wondering who, out of you all, has ever suffered from a streak of bad luck..."

I've had bad luck before - but this is a rather remarkable streak of bad luck. Further, Lawrence didn't draft her to run for government. She chose to do it and thus opens herself up for scrutiny. It is rather laughable that you argue she isn't blaming other people when the article stresses time and again that it isn't her fault she's been out of work for so long.

"sunrunner1960 (Anonymous) says… The bad checks? Let he who is perfect cast the first stone. It happens to the best of people in the worst of times. One adding error and everything else falls apart."

Uh no. If you run your finances so that "one adding error" causes everything to fall apart, you shouldn't be running a $146 million budget. Further, one bad check is a mistake but $1000 worth of checks is not.

"sunrunner1960 (Anonymous) says… She is a wonderful person, full of heart and enthusiasm for the city of Lawrence... She helped save the T, and she was the treasurer of that committee. Apparently she does have some money sense, or that would never have taken place, huh?"

Wow. Well when you put it that way... I had no idea that she quite possibly effectively managed hundreds of dollars as a treasurer to save Lawrence's empty bus system. Add that to her heart and she's certainly qualified.

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sunrunner1960 5 years, 1 month ago

I read all of these negative comments and I find myself wondering who, out of you all, has ever suffered from a streak of bad luck. If you did, did you spend your time blaming other people? I mean, come on people. It is in the news every single day. Millions losing their homes, millions more filing bankruptcy... I know nobody knows me here, I just recently moved into Lawrence (Sept 08), but I want you all to think about something for a minute. The Klingenbergs did not file a Chapter 7, which just expunges their debt, they filed a Chapter 13, which is a debt reorganization. That means that they are paying off their creditors, not avoiding them. The bad checks? Let he who is perfect cast the first stone. It happens to the best of people in the worst of times. One adding error and everything else falls apart. I have only lived in Lawrence for a few months, but I have known Gwen Klingenberg for 7 or 8 years now. She was instrumental in my move to this city. She is a wonderful person, full of heart and enthusiasm for the city of Lawrence. That she had some problems is obvious. Does that automatically mean she is detrimental to the city? Of course not. She helped save the T, and she was the TREASURER of that committee. Apparently she does have some money sense, or that would never have taken place, huh? My point? Everybody likes to throw dirt and sling mud. It is fun, isn't it? Is it how we want our youth to turn out? Negative, hateful and hurtful? I would much rather my little one learn how to look beyond the small picture to the big one. Incidentally, 40 creditors is not that uncommon. And people do not file bankruptcy just because they are standing on the edge. They have to need serious help before they take that route. Just remember, they could have filed a 7, instead they are paying off their creditors with a 13. I for one am going to vote for Gwen, because I know her track record with this city, and I know she is sincere in her desire to help the city, not hurt it.

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righthanded 5 years, 1 month ago

Government needs to be taking care of its people,” Klingenberg said

Ya...Obamy supporter! That is what we need as a commissioner? Someone who believes in 'others sharing their wealth'? What a deadbeat!

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swan_diver 5 years, 1 month ago

Ocean makes the point better than I. Think about it.

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ocean 5 years, 1 month ago

who has 40 creditors?

try AIG ? if you want to take on a big one!

or how about GM - now they need $30 billion more before April Fool's Day?

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ocean 5 years, 1 month ago

who has 40 creditors?

try AIG ? if you want to take on a big one!

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swan_diver 5 years, 1 month ago

This one's for think_about_it, if the LJW allows links that mercifully take folks away from the web site:

http://www.thedailyshow.com/video/index.jhtml?videoId=220252&title=cnbc-gives-financial-advice

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alm77 5 years, 1 month ago

monkey, 40 creditors are easy to accrue with medical problems. You have to pay the hospital, the surgeon, the anesthesiologist, your referring doctor, etc. all separately. It did say that she had outstanding bad checks and each would count as one creditor as well.

It's a mess, that's for sure.

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monkeyhawk 5 years, 1 month ago

Who in the world has 40 creditors??? ... and then to stiff them all and blame her irresponsibility on someone else. I find it repugnant, and in this climate it is doubtful that she has a snowball's chance in hail to be elected. You know things are pretty bad when even boozo won't endorse a progressive.

No more deadbeats in city, county,state or federal offices.

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swan_diver 5 years, 1 month ago

Hey 'Thought About It.' You home? I would think your ilk would be laying low right now, with your friends from BUSHCO, at every level of our society, having just thrust the nation into a tailspin that could take down 90% of the American people. They did it with the moral, political and economic support of poor excuses like you -- and the rest of us hold you and yours responsible for this disaster. I make no excuses for the temerity of a woman like Gwen Klingenberg to run for public office in the wake of a personal financial meltdown. But she's in good company -- thanks to the treasonous actions of the leaders of our national banking, business and real estate 'industries,' and sycophants like you who back them -- while casting aspersions on folks who would at least pretend to be doing something about it.

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Benjamin Roberts 5 years, 1 month ago

"...owe a total of $11,498 in tax payments to the state and federal government..."

Ms. Klingenberg is setting her sights way too low. She should immediately withdraw as a City Commissioner candidate and offer her services to the Obama administration. The cabinet positions are filled or designated; however, there are still some Representative positions left.

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think_about_it 5 years, 1 month ago

Why is that swan_diver?

She only got caught doing what all progressives do. Spend other peoples money without worrying what it does to the average tax paying citizen. Her taxes are already too high to be able to pay them and she wants to impose even more of a financial burden on people, especially the ones that contribute to the tax base.

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just_another_bozo_on_this_bus 5 years, 1 month ago

While her financial difficulties give absolutely no indication, good or bad, about how she would perform as a city commissioner, swan diver is right that they will likely become the central focus of her campaign, as well as the campaigns of other like-minded candidates.

This could make it very difficult to focus on a much more critical issue-- the continued use of the city commission to promote the special interests of the development/cancerous growth sectors, to the detriment of everyone else.

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swan_diver 5 years, 1 month ago

I suppose there are only three viable 'progressive' candidates on the ballot for the so-called city commission election this year, counting Gwen. But her presence on that ballot, with this unfortunate circumstance of her life, and the obvious implication of her incompetence as a manager, is nothing less than a complete disservice to the progressive movement in Lawrence. Any fool can see that her circumstance is and will continue to be a public relations disaster for her, and by implication, the other progressives up for election. With all due respect, I believe she should end her campaign -- and lay low until the first of May.

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prospector 5 years, 1 month ago

alm77, just vote for two candidates. By not picking a third, the ones you vote for have a better chance.

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think_about_it 5 years, 1 month ago

alm77- That is exactly the danger in voting for this woman or anyone who shares her political ideology. Everything that she stands for increases the size and scope of government and in turn the cost to the average citizen, at least those of us who actually pay taxes.

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alm77 5 years, 1 month ago

Okay, I have a question... I'm serious here.... how much control does the commission have over the actual spending? Would one person who, I admit, is clueless about cash really have that much of an impact or a say-so over the budget? Isn't that done by a separate committee and then approved by the city council?

I only ask these questions because I like where she stands on several issues. I would love to have her service, but would not want to hand her the checkbook. The medical problem is understandable, the taxes... not so much.

I already know 2 people I'm voting for and am torn between Gwen and another person...

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somedude20 5 years, 1 month ago

Is it sensible to have someone oversee a city when they can not even be responsible for their own finances? Bouncing that many checks? Not knowing that you owe a large sum of tax money or worse yet not paying it when you do? Sounds like someone who has their head buried firmly in the sand.

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think_about_it 5 years, 1 month ago

$11.5k in back unpaid taxes and this stupid leftist Democrat wants to be in charge of our money? What is it about Democrats that they don't ever seem to pay their taxes?

I've already had enough of these progressive tax and spend losers, including Obama. Look at the market so far this week. Every time he opens his yap my retirement goes down the drain. SHUT the hell up you anti-capitalist dumba$$!! How will this country survive 4 years of this crap?

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gabbo 5 years, 1 month ago

8muddy, that is like saying it is remarkable refreshing (sic) for a problem gambler or addict to openly discuss his or her problems. Why would we want someone so poor at managing her own life and finances to have anything to do with ours? How did Mike Rundle turn out? Gwen should put her own affairs in order.

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8muddyboots 5 years, 1 month ago

I think it is remarkable refreshing to have someone so willing to openly discuss their finances. Look around you people, this is what your neighbors and your families are going through whether you choose to acknowledge it or not.

Thank you Ms.Klingenberg bringing a bit of reality to the table.

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macon47 5 years, 1 month ago

I HAVE SYMPATHY FOR HER, BUT WITH HER BAGGAGE I THINGK THEIR ARE BETTER CANDIDATES TO VOTE FOR

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OldEnuf2BYurDad 5 years, 1 month ago

"40 creditors" including payday loans?

"The filing includes claims from the Internal Revenue Service and the Kansas Department of Revenue for tax payments from 2005, 2006 and 2007."

No, that's too hard to overlook. Lots of people get into trouble over medical debts, but this is mismanagement. This indicates to me some really poor decision making on her part. One year of messed up taxes is understandable, but this went on and on and on...

I don't see how she can see herself as qualified. That part is almost as scary as her history: she doesn't see that this is a problem.

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Larry_The_Moocher 5 years, 1 month ago

And all the time, she was pushing for the empT, spending other peoples money on that garbage pit, while she could not even pay her bills... and from the amounts... looks like to me she ran up some debt, knowing full well she was going to file bankruptcy anyway.... This is the person we need! Spend, spend, spend other peoples money with no idea where it is going to come from.

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Noweigh 5 years, 1 month ago

Just what we need, another candidate running from accountability. "Not sure how we feel behind on our taxes". Not even counting the inability to handle their personal finances. No thanks.

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parrotuya 5 years, 1 month ago

It's a perfect match: an indebted commissioner in a failed city commission! Maybe she will propose $3,000 shower curtains for city hall. That would make this story complete!

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madameX 5 years, 1 month ago

To be fair, pointing to sources why problems exist is not necessarily taking the "easy way," sometimes it's telling the truth. If she couldn't work due to an injury then she couldn't work due to an injury, how else is she supposed to explain it?

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medyas 5 years, 1 month ago

If she is not sure what happened on how they fell behind on their taxes even before she end up being injured , how can she even make sure that a city budget is also falling behind their bills if she will handle it, she can't even handle a simple budget, how much more for a $146 million. Maybe she will also say, I'm not sure what happened, it's the peoples money anyway. Simple---be responsible with your own problem and not point to other sources why it happened and try to go the easy way. Maybe she can run for something that doesn't handle the budget.

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jlw53 5 years, 1 month ago

I believe she was a strong Obama supporter. All the more reason that "government" should have even more control over our lives. Or maybe not, huh, Gwen. This is clearly the direction the new administration is taking us.

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