Archive for Wednesday, March 4, 2009

FINAL: Voskuil’s 35 points lead Texas Tech to 84-65 upset

The Kansas bench looks on as the final seconds tick away in KU's loss to Texas Tech on Wednesday, March 4, 2009 at United Spirit Arena in Lubbock, Texas.

The Kansas bench looks on as the final seconds tick away in KU's loss to Texas Tech on Wednesday, March 4, 2009 at United Spirit Arena in Lubbock, Texas.

March 4, 2009, 6:57 p.m. Updated March 5, 2009, 2:19 a.m.


2:19 a.m.

I tallied up everyone's scores. We had 35 entries. Thanks to everyone for participating (and major props to the two or three folks who predicted there would be a technical).

Here's the final leaderboard:

1. areyouserious — 15

2. kuballer — 14

3. hometownhawk — 12

T4. kuhwks — 12

T4. Icebird3 — 12

T6. jnewell — 11 (not bad)

T6. tkeegan — 11 (not bad as well)

T6. lighthawk — 11

T6. RockChalkJayBlog — 11

T6. Jaybate — 11

T6. sgtjb123 — 11

T6. Cballer13 — 11

T6. carterpatterson — 11

T6. exiledhawkfan — 11

T15. cffighter86 — 10

T15. jco8394 — 10

T15. mae — 10

T15. john20223 — 10

T15. worrnotjhawk — 10

T20. jayhawker77 — 9

T20. KU1979 — 9

T20. patton6 — 9

T20. KUhawkdave — 9

T20. thetagger — 9


T25. mike_blur — 8

T25. hail2olku — 8

T25. SanDiegoChapter — 8

29. KGPhoto — 8

T30. darinku — 7

T30. MrPilot — 7

T30. kubmg — 7

T30. chuckberry32 — 7

T30. recker — 7

35. Mr_A — 5

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2009 KU-TTU March 4
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KU scoring

Collins 11 (3-for-19 shooting), Marcus Morris 11, Taylor 11, Aldrich 8, Reed 7, Thomas 4, Releford 4, Markieff Morris 4, Morningstar 3, Little 2.

KU was 21-for-63 from the floor (33.3 percent), 19-for-28 from the free-throw line (67.9 percent) and 4-for-24 from three (16.7 percent).

TTU was 23-for-51 from the floor (45.1 percent), 15-for-27 from three (55.6 percent) and 23-for-26 from the free-throw line (88.5 percent).

TTU had 19 turnovers to KU’s 13. TTU out-rebounded KU, 39-38.

FINAL: TTU defeats KU, 84-65.

Matt Kleinmann gets in the game for all the wrong reasons.

Voskuil hits two more threes to end his senior night with 35 points, making 9 of his 14 threes.

Tech wins by 19, and the few students that are here rush the court.

TTU 78/KU 61 — 1:46 left in game

Voskuil hits a dagger, draining a stepback three at the end of the shot clock over Reed. Not much the KU guard could do there.

Little misses two free throws. Okorie followed with two free throws. This is turning into a blowout.

Collins misses a deep three he has to take. He’s now 3-for-19 overall and 1-for-10 from three.

The “Overrated” chant starts at the 1:58 mark. Turnabout is fair play, I guess.

TTU 69/KU 60 — 3:24 left in game

Four straight free throws by Tech, including the two technical freebies. The Red Raiders haven’t hurt themselves at the line (14-for-16, 87.5 percent).

It’s a free-throw contest now. The Jayhawks hit four, but Okorie hits two.

Singletary gets a layup, and KU can’t buy a basket. Collins misses two short ones. Aldrich misses a chippy. Marcus Morris gets fouled but misses the front end of the one-and-one. The fans are feeling the upset here.

Marcus Morris and TTU’s Robert Lewandowski foul out within a span of two seconds. That still probably hurts KU more.

Reed misses a wide-open three, and KU’s chances at a comeback are slipping away.

TTU 60/KU 54 — 7:43 left in game

KU is getting easy baskets in transition. It looks like one of Tech’s guards is forgetting to stay back. Taylor gets two easy layups, but KU isn’t making up much ground.

The Jayhawks are sticking with their 2-3 zone. It’s giving Voskuil open threes, but that’s a risk KU has to take.

Collins finds Reed in the corner on the secondary break, and the sophomore drains the three. TTU turns it over, and after a Collins miss, Marcus Morris follows with the offensive rebound and putback.

Collins jacks up another bad shot. He’s killing KU tonight. After a foul on Marcus Morris, the referee whistles him for a technical. Not sure what happened, but that’s a quick whistle regardless.

TTU 54/KU 43 — 11:53 left in game

On the ropes, the Red Raiders respond well. Singletary drives in for a layup, and Voskuil hits a three over KU’s 2-3 zone.

Why is Collins shooting so much? He’s 3-for-12 and hoisting up guarded 16-footers and fallaway threes. The Jayhawks have forgotten what it was that helped them make their run (going inside).

Self picks up an ill-advised technical foul after there was no whistle on a Markieff Morris shot inside. Suddenly, TTU’s lead is back up to 11, and the Red Raiders have all the momentum.

Could it get any worse for KU? Aldrich picks up an away-from-the-ball whistle, and that’s his fourth foul. He heads to the bench.

TTU 41/KU 39 — 15:38 left in game

KU gets the ball inside the paint twice in the first two minutes of the second half, and twice, Marcus Morris dunks it. Again, KU should be able to score points, but holding down TTU defensively will be the key.

The Jayhawks put on a full-court pressing defense, and Taylor gets a steal in the backcourt. He lays it in for two, and KU has trimmed the lead to five.

A three from Morningstar and layup from Aldrich, and suddenly, the Jayhawks are down two. Tech is self-destructing with bad shots and unforced turnovers. A Red Raiders fan in the upper deck yells, “Get your hands off your throats” to his own team.

KU scoring

Collins 7, Marcus Morris 5, Aldrich 4, Releford 4, Reed 4, Taylor 2, Little 2.

KU was 8-for-25 from the floor (32 percent), 2-for-9 from three (22.2 percent) and 10-for-14 from the free-throw line (71.4 percent).

TTU was 12-for-29 from the floor (41.4 percent), 8-for-15 from three (53.3 percent) and 7-for-8 from the free-throw line (87.5 percent).

KU had eight turnovers to TTU’s nine. TTU out-rebounded KU, 21-15.

Halftime thoughts

What happened to that maturing, developing team we saw against Missouri? Collins hasn’t shown leadership, and Aldrich was non-existent inside before picking up two fouls. Taylor had a poor half with just two points and two turnovers. We haven’t seen these Jayhawks since Michigan State two months ago.

Having said that, KU still has a great chance in this one. The Jayhawks missed a lot of first-half shots, and the Red Raiders are probably the worst defensive team in the Big 12. I wouldn’t be surprised to see the Jayhawks still get to 80 points.

KU will have to win this one with defense. The Jayhawks were horrible getting out to shooters in the first half, and they’ll have to be much, much better. The 2-3 zone was effective toward the end of the half, though, so we’ll see if Self sticks with that.

Good minutes from Releford, even if he did throw a pass to a ref. He tied for the team-high with three rebounds and also made both of his field-goal attempts.

TTU 39/KU 28 — Halftime

KU’s change to a 2-3 zone has worked well so far. TTU hasn’t been nearly as comfortable in its offense and has missed badly with some forced-up shots.

The Jayhawks hold for the last shot, but an ice-cold Collins jacks up a three that misses badly. That play summarized the first half pretty well. Collins is now 2-for-8, and KU is still down 11.

TTU 39/KU 28 — 1:56 left in 1st half

KU keeps sending Texas Tech to the free-throw line. Okorie makes four straight. The Red Raiders’ lead is up to 17.

Collins isn’t acting much like a leader now. He’s trying to do too much himself and complaining too much to the officials. His lack of focus is showing at the line, where he’s just 2-for-4.

Tech is not playing the part of a smart team. KU is struggling from the floor, but the Red Raiders keep putting the Jayhawks at the free-throw line with silly over-the-back fouls.

Rogdrick Craig drains another open three. When is KU going to start defending the three-point line?

Travis Releford drives in for a layup, and Tyrel Reed swishes an open three. The Jayhawks follow with a steal, and after Collins is blocked, Releford uses an athletic move to get the ball off the glass and in for two. That’s a 7-0 run for KU, but the Jayhawks still trail by 11.

TTU 29/KU 17 — 7:57 left in 1st half

It might be worse for KU if it wasn’t getting to the free-throw line. Aldrich makes two free throws, and Collins makes one of two.

Mike Singletary drains an open three. A minute later, Roberson drives right down the middle of the lane for a layup. The March Jayhawks have been replaced by the October Jayhawks, at least for the first 12 minutes.

TTU 21/KU 12 — 11:56 left in 1st half

The Jayhawks must have decided in the locker room that they weren’t going to guard any three-point shots.

Roberson hits a three. Then Voskuil is left open for three consecutive three-pointers (Did I mention he’s third in the conference in three-point shooting?). Swish. Swish. Swish. TTU is 5-for-7 from three, but KU is offering little resistance.

Timeout Self. Saying KU did not come to play would be a gross understatement.

The good news is there’s still plenty of time for KU to turn things around. If we know anything about Texas Tech, it’s that the Red Raiders are going to give up points.

TTU 9/KU 5 — 15:49 left in 1st half

Interesting rule to open the game. There was a jump-ball off the opening tip, so the people that were involved in the tie-up had another tip-off. Brady Morningstar will probably never be involved in a tip again, but he can say he won the one he was in.

Not a good start for KU. Marcus Morris starts with an airballed jumper. The Jayhawks aren’t defending well, either, as Nick Okorie makes a pair of open shots.

Alan Voskuil hits a three, and Self takes his first timeout.

Tyshawn Taylor picks up KU’s first field goal on a drive 3:15 in, and Marcus Morris gets a tip-in on the next possession, but Voskuil hits another open shot. KU hasn’t played with enough energy defensively.

8:26 p.m.

I’m not good at guessing attendance numbers, but I would say that, right now, there are only about 3,000-4,000 fans here at United Spirit Arena.

In other words, I’ve seen bigger crowds for Emporia State-Washburn women’s basketball games at White Auditorium in Emporia.

8:17 p.m.

Some notes about Texas Tech:

• The Red Raiders have lost six straight games.

• Texas Tech, like Kansas, is averaging 77.8 points per game.

• The Red Raiders have given up a Big 12-worst 80.7 points per game in conference play.

• TTU’s John Roberson leads the Big 12 in assists (6.5 per game).

• Alan Voskuil is third in the Big 12 in three-point shooting (43.8 percent). KU’s Fred Brown is first (45.8 percent) and Kansas State’s Fred Brown is second (44.2 percent).

• Voskuil (35.6 minutes per game) and Roberson (35.4 mpg) are third and fourth, respectively, in Big 12 minutes.

7:42 p.m.

As I'm typing this, the Kansas women's basketball team is leading No. 6 Baylor, 36-17, at Allen Fieldhouse. KU's Danielle McCray has 23 points, and there's still three minutes left in the first half.

If you live around the Fieldhouse, there's probably still time to watch an upset in the making.

6:55 p.m.

Welcome back to The Newell Post Live, coming to you from United Spirit Arena in Lubbock, Texas, where the No. 9 Kansas Jayhawks are getting set to take on the Texas Tech Red Raiders.

We’re going to try something a little different to start off this blog. Instead of analysis, we’re going to start with a contest, with the winner picking up a “Kream Keegan” T-Shirt.

Below are 20 either-or questions. Copy the questions, then select your pick for each question in the comments section below. Only one entry per person, and any person with multiple entries will have all their entries disqualified.

In the event of a tie, the winner will be the one that is closest to the final score for tonight’s game.

All entries must be put in the comments section by 8:30 p.m. Entries after this time will be disqualified.

I’ll do my best to go through all the entries late tonight. The winner will be notified by e-mail.

I’ll go ahead and throw my predictions in the comments section as well. If I am the winner, well, I guess I’ll have to give myself the “Kream Keegan” T-Shirt.

Good luck.

KU vs. Texas Tech: 20 questions

1. Which team will score first?

2. Will KU lead by 10 points or more at halftime?

3. Will KU coach Bill Self use two timeouts or more in the first half?

4. Will Brady Morningstar hit two or more three-pointers in the first half?

5. Will Sherron Collins score 23 points or more?

6. Will Texas Tech’s Alan Voskuil make at least three three-pointers?

7. Will Texas Tech’s John Roberson have seven assists or more?

8. Will the game be tied at any point in the final 30 minutes?

9. Will Cole Aldrich grab at least 17 rebounds?

10. Will Tyshawn Taylor score at least 15 points?

11. Will KU hit at least nine three-pointers?

12. Will Texas Tech hit at least six three-pointers?

13. Will KU out-rebound Texas Tech by at least 10 rebounds?

14. Will KU have 15 turnovers or more?

15. Who will score more: Sherron Collins or Cole Aldrich?

16. Will there be a technical foul in the game?

17. Will KU shoot 50 percent or better against Texas Tech?

18. Will the Morris twins combine for seven fouls or more?

19. Will Travis Releford play eight minutes or more?

20. Will KU senior Matt Kleinmann play?

Tiebreaker — What will the final score for tonight’s game be?


youngitized 9 years, 2 months ago

These officials are incompetent at best.

jonas_opines 9 years, 2 months ago

Bad time for all our players to lose their ability to shoot. Hopefully it comes back for us against Texas.

youngitized 9 years, 2 months ago

These officials have been the most biased I have seen this entire basketball season.

jonas_opines 9 years, 2 months ago

The good thing about hewing to a line like Barry's is that eventually you'll be proved right, because all it takes is a single loss. Intellectually lazy, of course, but it is barry, also of course.

Oh well, inconsistency is the hallmark of a young team. Certainly better performance all in all than the doomsayers expected, who predicted we'd only get to the NIT.

jonas_opines 9 years, 2 months ago

The officiating seemed consistently wussified for both sides. But I must admit that it's probably my biggest pet peeve in B-Ball when refs make boneheaded calls and then cover for it by throwing out a T.

Fred Whitehead Jr. 9 years, 2 months ago

Interesting.....When KU loses, the officials are rat bastards. When another team loses, well, the winner played a good game. Get a life. Officials do their best and they are human. You do your team and yourself no good by making stupid remarks about the officiating. Get real.

tunahelper 9 years, 2 months ago

hey ku, welcome to the Big 12 ! ! ! you clowns are so OVERRATED!!! you ku fans are such whiners when you lose.

would you like some cheese with your whine?





tunahelper 9 years, 2 months ago

they should nominate bill self for WHINER of the year!




just_another_bozo_on_this_bus 9 years, 2 months ago

Voskul playing the game of his career in his last home game plus a flat performance by KU, and the results are predictable.

jonas_opines 9 years, 2 months ago

Chuckle, it seems that barry is not the only clown aching for some negative attention on this evening.

jonas_opines 9 years, 2 months ago

frwent: Chastisement accepted. As I said, it's a pet peeve, but Bozo probably has the best read on the situation. Ce la vi. I do prefer it, however, when the refs let contact happen. Too many whistles maketh games frustrating.

jeffreyjensen 9 years, 2 months ago

Why was Releford relegated to the bench when Self couldn't find anyone to score? Why did he let the Morris twins stay in the game after the technical? Why did he get a technical? Why didn't he stick with the zone when we had the lead down to 4 with 16 min left? BAD COACHING. Self lost the game for us tonight much like the Mass game when he insisted on leaving Tehan in. An ugly blemish on what was shaping into a beautiful year. Usually a loss is good for a young team to keep them grounded. I'm not sure with these kids---they looked Slanted and Unenchanted out there. A miserable showing all around EXCEPT Releford---who should have played the last 15 min.

jonas_opines 9 years, 2 months ago

"I've always said Bill Self is a hack; he needs to be fired before the season is over."

I agree, we should overlook a championship win, one of the best records in coaching, and a pretty amazing rebuilding year because of this road loss with a squad of freshman and sophomores on the opposing team's Senior Night when their shooter makes 9 threes.

Does it occur to you that you've always said it may actually say less about Bill Self and more about yourself?

/haha, that was accidentally kind of clever there at the end, wish I could say I meant to do that.

AlligatorMama 9 years, 2 months ago

I'm sorry but are some of you serious?

For crying out loud - it's a team composed of almost all freshmen and sophs - they are the 11th youngest team in the NATION and are still tied for first in the conference. This sort of thing is bound to happen.

Yeah it was a setback tonight, who freakin' cares? They will live and learn from it. I'd like to point out that last years "perfect" team didn't start out so hot when they were fresh/sophs...anyone remember that?

And the officiating was pretty bad all around, not just against KU (though it became pretty biased at the end)

notajayhawk 9 years, 2 months ago

Jeez, folks, give it a rest! Your team has done unbelievably well this year, with a bunch of young players in what was supposed to be a rebuilding period. They just knocked off two of the best teams in the conference and clinched a piece of the regular season championship, and a letdown in that situation is hardly unusual. A few weeks ago they weren't even ranked, and now, while they may drop from a two-seed to a three, they have a chance to bring that back up with a good showing in the Big 12 tourney. And you attack the players and coach who've accomplished all that because they had an off night? Great fans here in Jayhawk country.

TheOriginalCA 9 years, 2 months ago

That's right JimJones, Pat Knight shot in all of those insane three pointers while Bill Self couldn't. Shame on Bill Self for not shooting threes like Pat Knight!!

jonas_opines 9 years, 2 months ago

notajayhawk: Those aren't jayhawk fans, you realize.

Although, to be fair, KU probably Was overrated. I think 15th was probably a little more accurate.

KU and MU both belong about there, I'd say.

labmonkey 9 years, 2 months ago

I actually called this a week ago. I told my co-workers that if KU beat Missouri, they would lose to Texas Tech because that is a classic case of Trap-Game...the easily overlooked game between two big games (Missouri and Texas). I will look like a genius when I go to work today...just wish I would have bet some money!!!

TopJayhawk 9 years, 2 months ago

The team was way overconfident, and with senior night etc. you could see this one coming a mile away. Team got outplayed. Self got outcoached. I agree with what logicsound said about the refs, but that is no excuse. They beat themselves. Pure and simple.

Wildwest61 9 years, 2 months ago

So much that we lose a game that we should have won, and everybody wants to oust the coach.

Far as I see it, we have one of the best coaches in NCAA basketball, 6 years, 1 NCAA Championship Team, 4 Big 12 Titles, and also up for Coach of the Year for NCAA. All in 6 years, losing all 5 starters last year. Tell me how many coaches have this resume'?

Not to bring up anything, but Roy Williams was here how many years, (15) I think, and where was the NCAA Championship? hmmm, let me think.

I'm just overwhelmed what has happened so far this year with the talent that we have on the team and how our team is filled with freshman, if that's not good coaching to get them where they are now, (and I was thinking 2, maybe three years what I will be seeing) I'm thinking we won't be waiting another 20 years until the NCAA Championship Team strolling down Mass Street.

Oh, I can believe that Bill (starting today will have them ready to seal up the Big 12 Title this Saturday. (Oh, before I forget, want to thank Missouri for taking care of Oklahoma last night) plus we will be going for 41 straight home victories in Allen Field House on Saturday.

To End, I'm just saying I was very dissappointed in the lose last night, and I was anger also, but when you think about it, if I was on Texas Tech team, I was thinking what would it be like to knock off a team leading our conference. Gives me the hunger to go out and produce a good game also on Senior Night in front of the Home crowd.

Go Jayhawks!!!!

lionheart72661 9 years, 2 months ago

Aligatormama... you could not have said it better. I still believe the coaches are overpaid but at least Bill Self built a team from practically nothing to win as many games as we did. On the other side of the coin Mangino and the football team were lucky to even get a bowl bid this year. And quit blaming a loss on the officials we all have our bad days.

davidsmom 9 years, 2 months ago

It was Senior Night payback for Texas Tech. Remember last year's KU Senior Night? We beat TT 109-51.
If we only share the conference title this year, will it be with Missouri? Oh, my gosh - I'd rather share it with anybody but Missouri!

thomgreen 9 years, 2 months ago

Am I the only one that thought it was a little classless for Voskuil to be shooting 3 pointers with less than 30 seconds left? Trying to run up the score?, his personal best? Just my opinion.

thomgreen 9 years, 2 months ago

I forget, do all the teams get to play in the Big 12 tournament? If so, I sure hope we get to play Tech.

somedude20 9 years, 2 months ago

Go Pitt Panthers!!!!! This is your year...

shockchalk 9 years, 2 months ago

I agree with logicsound04 about the game last night. Self wasn't outcoached and while bad officiating can be frustrating, a good team will survive a bad call. KU was flat and couldn't match the intensity they had against Mizzou...which is completely understandable. If you have an off night the same time somebody has their best game of the year, you get upsets like this. Bottom line is, if you are KU, and you have to lose a game, this was the one to lose. Now, they can focus on beating Texas on Saturday to win the conference outright and extend the home winning streak. Bill Self is clearly one of the best coaches in the country and his record shows that. And Tuna is clearly an idiot and his post shows that.

notajayhawk 9 years, 2 months ago

thomgreen (Anonymous) says…

"Am I the only one that thought it was a little classless for Voskuil to be shooting 3 pointers with less than 30 seconds left? Trying to run up the score?, his personal best?"

You mean like KU beat up on them last year 109-51 on their own senior night?

Personally, I hate it when a team slows the pace and tries to just take time off the clock to protect a lead late in the game. And the kid was having the game of his life. And good for him. The fact that an opponent has one of those nights when he can throw up the kitchen sink and touch nothing but net (every team is going to run into that once in a while) does nothing to diminish the accomplishments made by KU this year.

jonas_opines 9 years, 2 months ago

I would also add that we have no room to talk, as Collins has done the same a couple times when he's been feeling hot.

TheOriginalCA 9 years, 2 months ago

Voskuil and TT ran up the score??? WTF?? It is not like KU is a doormat team being bullied by a bunch of far superior jerks. This was and will always be a special night for TT and Voskuil. Give them their due.

TheYetiSpeaks 9 years, 2 months ago

Agreed OriginalCal. I am a little mystified at the vitriol toward Tech. It was their senior night and Voskuil's last basketball game (probably ever on that level or beyond). The kid had a special night. He was overcome with emotion after leaving the game on the bench. I am a pretty big KU fan but I was happy for him. He and Tech obviously felt it was more important than KU's kids did. Also, any talk of Self being "outcoached" is ridiculous and immediately puts you into a category I like to call, "Doesn't know much about basketball."

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