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A former Lawrence police officer, once honored as a hero, is being charged with 14 federal counts of felony wire fraud, accused of selling stolen video games on eBay while employed by the police force.

By Jesse Fray

June 19, 2009

Photo by Rachel Seymour

Ryan Sayler, is pictured in this photograph from December 2006 where he and four other Lawrence police officers received the Medal of Valor, the department's highest award, for their efforts to save residents of burning buildings in the Boardwalk Apartment fire in 2006. Four officers were involved in rescue efforts at the Boardwalk Apartments in the fall of 2006.

Robert Ryan Sayler, 32, is suspected of devising and executing a scheme in which he purchased video games from Target, removed the video game discs from their original packaging, returned the empty boxes to Target for a complete refund and then sold the discs online, according to an indictment handed up by a Kansas City, Kan., grand jury Wednesday.

The indictment accuses the former police officer of collecting about $526 through the sale of 14 stolen Playstation 3 and Xbox video games on the online auction site eBay, between Aug. 9, 2008, and Sept. 17, 2008. The sale prices ranged from $30 to $46.

Multiple copies of the games Tiger Woods PGA Tour 09, Soul Caliber IV and Battlefield Bad Company were sold as a part of the scheme, the indictment said.

Sayler worked more than eight years for the Lawrence Police Department, from Oct. 9, 2000, until Dec. 23, 2008. He was being paid a salary of $58,333 per year when his employment was terminated, the city said.

Servers located in the states of Washington, California, Texas and Arizona are used to process eBay transactions, the indictment said. The indictment said Sayler mailed the video games to purchasers.

Capt. Tarik Khatib, who oversees the Lawrence Police Department information technology division, said the department had no comment about the indictment.

Sayler was one of five police officers who received the Lawrence Police Medal of Valor, the department’s highest award, for his rescue efforts during the deadly Boardwalk Apartment Fire in October 2005.

A court date for Sayler has not been set.

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hujiko (Anonymous) says…

bacon
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Graczyk (Anonymous) says…

To protect and serve…himself.
Oh well.
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was_freashpowder2 (Alexander Neighbors) says…

wow…..say it aint so….. corruption in the Lawrence police Department………. Wasent there a guy who has been claiming this for the last few years ??
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was_freashpowder2 (Alexander Neighbors) says…

So who still thinks we Don't need a review board ?……. anybody ?
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Eride (Anonymous) says…

Wow… that has to be one of the stupidest ways of stealing ever. Make very little money, guarantee you get caught and get on the hook for multiple wire fraud charges… reeeeaaaaallll smart there. About what I would expect from a police officer.
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rooster (Anonymous) says…

So I wonder if the lpd/feds will pursue this officer as forcefully as they do Yellow House.

My crystal ball says “doubt it”.
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sinverguenza (Anonymous) says…

What I don't understand is how it's easier to rip off the local Target than online buyers from all across the country.

Cops - gotta love 'em.

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was_freashpowder2 (Alexander Neighbors) says…

This probably is not the only Illegal activity He is doing. I wonder why the postal Service and the IRS are not involved ?
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rooster (Anonymous) says…

The postal service and the irs are too busy putting the lockdown on Yellow House to worry about some little old police officer.
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ImAllThat (Anonymous) says…

was_freashpowder2,

The IRS and USPS did get involved, this article neglects to mention the fact that he is also charged with 14 federal counts of unreported income for his 2008 tax return. USPS is now taking legal action with him because he did not ride off the shipping charges on his 2008 tax return either.
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was_freashpowder2 (Alexander Neighbors) says…

rooster………
the IRS and the Postal Inspector, They have stepped down from the Yellow house investigation after the charges were dropped the first time 3 years ago…..
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doc1 (Anonymous) says…

Sometimes people do desparate things they normally wouldn't do. I certainly hope he's sorry for what he is accused of. He needs to get right with god and confess his sin.
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Irish (Irish Swearingen) says…

Why make fun of the entire police department for what one retired officer has done?
Who decides what group it is safe to mock?
I have a great deal of respect for the police. They do a good job and get scant respect in return for their efforts.
It doesn't seem like positive minded people post very much on the LJW. It tends to be like a forum for Bart Simpson wannabe's.
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was_freashpowder2 (Alexander Neighbors) says…

well…. Irish……

Offence occured:
between Aug. 9, 2008, and Sept. 17, 2008.

Employed as a LDP officer:
from Oct. 9, 2000, until Dec. 23, 2008

If you notice these dates overlap.
I respect the honest Lawrence police officers. I would have even more respect if there was transparency by way of citizens review board for the remaining Lawrence Police officers…
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sinverguenza (Anonymous) says…

Yeah? Well eat my shorts, Irish!!!! ;P

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costello (Anonymous) says…

“Why make fun of the entire police department for what one retired officer has done?”

I agree with your sentiments, Irish, but this officer wasn't “retired”; he was terminated AFTER the dates of the crimes he's accused of. My guess is he was terminated because of the crimes.
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notwhatyouthink (Anonymous) says…

There is nothing in the story to lead one that he retired. He was 32. It does say former officer. That would lead one to belive that once it was found out he was fired. I hope he was.

I am not sure what you mean by transparency, but everyone has privacy rights. I think they should publish in the papers every time you get in trouble at work and every time that you are late paying a bill.

Regardless what anyone thinks on this board Cops are held to a higher standard. Would you have lost your job if you stole $526 worth of DVD's.
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mightyquin (Anonymous) says…

Irish, I don't think he was retired. The headline says “former officer” and the article says his employment was terminated! Sounds like being fired to me. Was this related to the video games or were there other reasons for his termination?
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ChiHawkInKS (Anonymous) says…

Wow, he had a good salary and he was doing a stupid scam to gain a couple hundred bucks?… dont understand that.
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was_freashpowder2 (Alexander Neighbors) says…

notwhatyouthink:

Would you have lost your job if you stole $526 worth of DVD's and re-sold them on ebay.
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That would be called fencing stolen goods. Also what would keep him from selling stuff from the evidence room which I am pretty sure he had easier access to….?

Or engaging in conduct unbecoming of an officer while on duty ?

You cant protect and Defend if you are pillaging and stealing…..just F.Y.I.

Its called getting a second Job, he shoulda done that instead.
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was_freashpowder2 (Alexander Neighbors) says…

So who still thinks we Don't need a review board ?……. anybody ?
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how would a review board have caught this. aren't those boards for internal issues at the department? this sounds like a personal endeavor to supplement his income.
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notjustastudent (Anonymous) says…

I think it's unfortunate that this happened- however, the severity of this crime is not great enough to diminish what he did as a police officer, and more importantly, as a person, when it came to things like the Boardwalk apartment fire. I worked with Nicole Bingham, and will never forget hearing stories about how well the police responded to the situation, and I'm glad that what happened to Nicole wasn't what happened to the majority. People are strange, for sure, and what he did was illegal, yes, but whether or not it affected his ability to do his job is another thing entirely. Until he kills someone or puts someone out of business, some of these comments will seem harsh and unnecessary to me.
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jehovah_bob (Anonymous) says…

I didn't realize cops made that much.

I sense a career change coming on.

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pace (Anonymous) says…

There are rights to privacy, that should not mean hiding criminal charges and public information. If these acts were detected and charges made while he was on the force they should of been part of the public record, just like any person's not on the force would be. A Review board is necessary, has been for a long time. A good review board protects good men and women who serve and protect the public. No review board encourages a more and more insulated and separatist culture within the department. The community must work with the police to keep peace and (here is the sticking point for Olin) the police must work with the community. City Commissioners are you reading?
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ImAllThat (Anonymous) says…

We no longer have any rights, Obama has taken them all.
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pace (Anonymous) says…

All police departments have internal review boards or procedures, a citizens review board works differently. The are many differences in the ones in other cities, some work very well, some don't .
A Citizen Police Review Board is an independent agency not an internal committee, set up to investigate citizen complaints about improper police conduct, encourage community and department cooperation and communication, etc. It works differently than the city commission working as an emergency review board, reducing the politics and encouraging community involvement and trust.
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sinverguenza (Anonymous) says…

notjustastudent (Anonymous) says…

“Until he kills someone or puts someone out of business, some of these comments will seem harsh and unnecessary to me.”

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I wish the police felt the same way about protecting and serving. I can't recall a cop ever saying, “until you kill someone or put someone out of business I'm not going to worry about how you do yours.”

Would you feel the same if the cop had been driving drunk? We hate hypocrisy for a reason.

And what he did DID affect his ability to do his job - considering his job was to uphold the law, not break it.
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bad_dog (Anonymous) says…

“We no longer have any rights, Obama has taken them all.”

Other than freedom of speech and expression, I guess.

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“Would you have lost your job if you stole $526 worth of DVD's and re-sold them on ebay.
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That would be called fencing stolen goods.”-freashpowder

No, freashpowder, that would be called felony theft. Receiving and re-selling stolen goods is fencing. I'll leave the topic at that.

And yes, I probably would lose my job for stealing anything, regardless of value. It's the principle, not the amount.
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was_freashpowder2 (Alexander Neighbors) says…

bad_dog.

Fence - In law enforcement, a fence is an individual who knowingly buys stolen property for later resale in a (usually) legitimate market. As a verb, the word describes the behavior of the thief in the transaction: The burglar fenced the radio. …
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fence_(c…)

From Honest Joe.
First off I would like to teach children to respect their goverment/police/firefighters and millitary. Now the problem I have is that of late we see that is not a safe course of action. People are people. A mans occupation does not define him. A mans actions are what define him or her. The problem is this too many people are being walked on by our goverment and trusted officials. Our rights that American Patriots have faught and died for are being wittled away on. Cyber Staulers, terrorists and corrupt police. Where will it end. Lets hold these individuals to the same standard that the public is held to. We need to work on our system of chechs and ballances as it is out of controll. The ability of the public to fight police corruption is not so good. They have infernal affairs (cover up). If action is ever to happen against a dirty cop. First one must complain to the department, then the mayor, then justice/att. general. If no action is taken there is always the FBI. My opinion…..go to the media. If that doesnt work..Report the facts on the internet. Truth needs to come out to protect the public from corrupt goverment (police). It should not be that difficult. Terrorism is alive and well in Wisconsin…We must all not turn a blind eye but fight for the rights are forefathers gave us!

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ImAllThat (Anonymous) says…

bad_dog says… “Other than freedom of speech and expression, I guess”

He's working on removing those as well, soon we will all function as one entity.
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was_freashpowder2 (Alexander Neighbors) says…

I am pretty Sure Guy from the yh did what Honest Joe said to do, contact all the people in charge Shown Here
http://www.scribd.com/doc/16208904/Le…

and they threw him in prison. Go Fig.

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cheeseburger (Anonymous) says…

was_freashpowder2 (Alexander Neighbors) says:
That would be called fencing stolen goods.

Something was_freash et al. know a thing or two about !
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was_freashpowder2 (Alexander Neighbors) says…

a picture of the old Ryan Sayler

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Akreed (Anonymous) says…

What a dumba**.
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yankeevet (Anonymous) says…

He had a good salary from the police dept;………what a fool this guy must be……….perhaps he would make a good senator now…..hummmmmm………
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Sigmund (Anonymous) says…

was_freashpowder2 (Alexander Neighbors) says… “So who still thinks we Don't need a review board ?……. anybody ?”

That would be me unless you can explain how a police review board would have kept this from happening and why we need to change a system that obviously caught and charged him with a crime.
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Marion (Marion Lynn) says…

Pretty obvious that the guy was not much a cop because he thought he could get away with such a poorly planned and executed series of crimes.
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was_freashpowder2 (Alexander Neighbors) says…

Poor Guy Filed for Chapter 7 according to the http://www.pacer.gov Site, Hang in there Ryan !

98-42719
Robert Ryan Sayler and Holly Jo Sayler
Case type: bk
Chapter: 7
Asset: Yes
Vol: v Judge: James A. Pusateri
Date filed: 10/02/1998
Date of last filing: 09/08/2000
Date discharged: 02/04/1999
Date terminated: 09/08/2000

Bankruptcy Cases
Name Court Case No. Filed Chapter
1 sayler, ryan ksbke 98-42719 10/02/1998 7
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lawdog (Anonymous) says…

Leave him alone. He made a bad decision and look where that got him. Time to move on Lawrence, we have a serial rapist to find!

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Marion (Marion Lynn) says…

lawdog (Anonymous) says…

Leave him alone. He made a bad decision and look where that got him. Time to move on Lawrence, we have a serial rapist to find!”

Marion writes:

No, I don't think he should be “left alone”.

He comitted these criminal acts while holding the public trust.

There were about 50,000 legal ways for him to have made $500 and he chose the cirminal path.

Oh, well………………………
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ToriFreak13 (Anonymous) says…

I don't quite understand how or why Target would let someone return an empty video game package?…AND give a FULL refund??? Maybe this is all a front?? To send him “inside”…undercover?
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was_freashpowder2 (Alexander Neighbors) says…

prolly because he was in uniform …..
LAwDOG we cant leave him alone.. should the public be a target to police misconduct everytime an officer is running low on cash ?

This is why we need a Citizens review board if there were checks and balances in place the police would know they cant get away with this type of activities.

I wonder if he was involved with the yellow house case ?
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domino (Anonymous) says…

was_freash - you might have had some valid points, but I couldn't get past all the spelling/grammer mistakes! Although I have a number of friends/family who are law enforcement/firefighters, I am not silly enough to assume there are no bad apples. Neither do I think they are all great, upstanding people. What he did was wrong and he should be punished within the limits of the law.

What I do have an issue with, in the article, is the fact that his salary was printed. I know that as a public employee, it is public record, but I don't see how printing his salary had any relevance to the article. What other article has the LJW printed lately that had the salary of the accused printed in it?

And jehovah-bob, if you think that salary is enough to put your life on the line on a daily basis, then go for it. Just remember that his salary was after 8 years on a good sized department. Try starting at a small department, because that is where you almost have to start to get some experience, where they will start you in the area of $30K - doesn't look so good then!!
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icacrynette (Anonymous) says…

First of all that bankruptcy was filed a long time ago. So I don't think that has much to do with the situation that is going on right now.
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Defender (Anonymous) says…

“We no longer have any rights, Obama has taken them all.”

Just come right out an admit you're stupid. Good lord, you're a freakin' moron.
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gphawk89 (Anonymous) says…

$526 vs. 14 felony counts. Dumb.
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icacrynette (Anonymous) says…

This article has nothing to do with Obama, so why do we keep brining him up. And I have to agree with domino…. why was it needed to print his salary in this article? People who make twice as much as he does (actors, pro sports players) commit criminal acts. So what is their excuse?

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mightyquin (Anonymous) says…

While I don't know how a review board would have prevented this crime, one is needed to allow the public to know how the department handled the situation. Were there other reasons for his termination besides the actions we know about? If that was indeed the reason for his being fired.
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misplacedcheesehead (Anonymous) says…

I find this sad,very sad. I try to teach my kids to look up to police officers.
Yes, absolutely, there are “bad apples” in every profession, not just the LPD. I'm sorry for the bad experiences some of you have had. I, personally, owe my autistic son's life( on more than one occasion) to the LPD.
If we can name them when they have committed a crime, may I name a few who have done a lot right? Thank you Brad Johnson, Keith Jones, Officer Hummel, Tina Shambaugh, and many others whose names I can't recall.
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mightyquin (Anonymous) says…

notjustastudent it really doesn't matter how great an officer he may have been or how big a hero is was. That does not give him the right to break the law and abuse the public trust. He could be the greatest cop ever but if he so much as takes a piece of candy from a baby he should lose his badge and his reputation!
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parrothead8 (Anonymous) says…

Let's see…he sold 14 games ranging from $30-46 retail. At an average midpoint price of $38, the 14 games cost approximately $532 retail.

He returned the packaging, kept the discs, and made $526 selling them on eBay.

So who are the morons paying full price for games with no packaging on eBay?
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skinny (Anonymous) says…

Hmmm, I thought the LJWorld didn't print the names of the arrested or accused until they had been convicted.

Typical of the LJWorld, they are selective in what they print and what they print about.
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rooster (Anonymous) says…

Fencing is buying stolen goods for resale.

Stealing is taking goods for yourself or resale.

The Goods were not stolen when he got them.

He stole them.
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Sigmund (Anonymous) says…

mightyquin (Anonymous) says…”While I don't know how a review board would have prevented this crime, one is needed to allow the public to know how the department handled the situation.”

A Police Review Board couldn't have prevented the crime, period. And we know exactly how they handled it, they investigated and the DA filed14 felony counts.

mightyquin (Anonymous) says… “Were there other reasons for his termination besides the actions we know about? If that was indeed the reason for his being fired.”

A Police Review Board legally could not and would not release anymore personal information than has already released.
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lawthing (Anonymous) says…

I worked at Best Buy a while back, and we had someone bring back a $600 Desktop PC…stripped and Full of Potatoes!

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lawthing (Anonymous) says…

Even with his income listed he was afforded more respect and privacy than the Yellow House owners.

If I recall they put their home address, and pictures in the article. And I believe there were some very harsh unproven accusations by the police dept.

I notice in this case the response from police was “no comment”.
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Marion (Marion Lynn) says…

parrothead8 (Anonymous) says…

Let's see…he sold 14 games ranging from $30-46 retail. At an average midpoint price of $38, the 14 games cost approximately $532 retail.

He returned the packaging, kept the discs, and made $526 selling them on eBay.

So who are the morons paying full price for games with no packaging on eBay?”

Marion writes;

If they are the right games and hard to get, many morons will buy them on eBay because they get “Auction Fever”.
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JimmyJoeBob (Anonymous) says…

Sounds like the LKPD did not play favorites or try and protect this person even though he was an officer. This makes the claims of the Neighbors sound baseless. The LKPD did not try and hide this or sweep it under the rug. His name was released and he was treated like any other criminal fencing stolen property in Lawrence. Good job LKPD way to go. This makes me trust that the LKPD did the right thing regarding the Neighbors.
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was_freashpowder2 (Alexander Neighbors) says…

hummm…………

Something is going on here
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bad_dog (Anonymous) says…

Alexander Neighbors) says…

bad_dog.

Fence - In law enforcement, a fence is an individual who knowingly buys stolen property for later resale in a (usually) legitimate market. As a verb, the word describes the behavior of the thief in the transaction: The burglar fenced the radio. …
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Yes, but in this case, the individual, i.e. the defendant, did not “receive” stolen goods. He apparently purchased the property outright and obtained clear title to it, then sold the substance of that property on e-bay. As such, the defendant is not a “fence”.

Keep in mind the initial questiion from notwhatyouthink was:

Would you have lost your job if you stole $526 worth of DVD's and re-sold them on ebay.

The distinction I made related to this question. Given the hypothetical indicated the person stole the DVDs I believe that criminal act likely constitutes felony theft, or possibly multiple misdemeanor counts depending on the circumstances-not “receiving stolen goods” and thus, not “fencing”

http://criminal-law.freeadvice.com/wh…

Note the discussion indicating “The crime is separate from the crime of stealing the property.”
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KUnlv13 (Anonymous) says…

Fourteen federal counts of felony wire fraud, $526 in his pocket, yadayadayada. While the action was unquestionably illegal it seems like small potatoes considering the fiscal maneuvering and tax evasion taking place via wire transfers on a daily basis by both US citizens and others. While we should attempt to take down each and every vagrant, the “BubbleBobbleBandit” isn't quite what I'd consider a big fish.
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bad_dog (Anonymous) says…

It's just an online news article of local interest, KUnlv13. It's not like they're leading off the 5:30 national news with the story.

I imagine this case essentially fell into the laps of law enforcement and thus the Feds, when someone at Target realized they were getting empty games boxes returned and either connected it to the defendant or reported the activity to the authorities.

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Number_1_Grandma (Anonymous) says…

Lose a 58k year job for video games? I guess the 'bad guys' aren't the only ones stupid!
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doc1 (Anonymous) says…

58K a year doesn't cover the extra 10K those guys usually make in overtime.
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snap_pop_no_crackle (Anonymous) says…

He should have pawned the games at YH.
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Keith (Anonymous) says…

“ImAllThat (Anonymous) says…

We no longer have any rights, Obama has taken them all.”

You have the right to remain stupid, no one can take that from you.
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Boston_Corbett (Anonymous) says…

skinny (Anonymous) says… “I thought the LJWorld didn't print the names of the arrested or accused until they had been convicted.”
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Skinny, that's not their general policy.
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beobachter (Anonymous) says…

alex, yh should be happy, an e-bay competitor just got eliminated.
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notjustastudent (Anonymous) says…

Wow. Never once did I say this man shouldn't be prosecuted. Never once did I say he had the right to break the law. But nobody's perfect. People are odd creatures with strange tendencies that sometimes they can't even understand. I don't want to diminish O.R exagerate the importance of his crimes is all. If a doctor or nurse smokes cigarettes, does that mean they are less capable of doing their job? If a murderer does something good to help someone, it doesn't diminish the fact that they killed somebody, so if someone who has received a medal for valor makes some stupid decisions, it shouldn't diminish the good that he has done.
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BPB (Anonymous) says…

No matter where they have a job, all criminals are stupid (lucky for us).Usually do to being high off of the weed growing in their house or the badge on their chest.
Not all criminals are cops there for not all cops are criminals.
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avon (Anonymous) says…

Oh my goodness. He used to volunteer at south as a football coach as well as other community charities. He's always seemed like such a nice giving person, I hope that whatever happened in his life to make him do this will cause him to repent. It looks from the story that it was a very short time he did this. If I remember the right coach I think he has a son with cancer. I hope the desperation was for a justifiable cause. Good luck and do the right thing sir.
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OldEnuf2BYurDad (Anonymous) says…

“What I don't understand is how it's easier to rip off the local Target than online buyers from all across the country.”

That would be a true statement, except that he got caught. It WASN'T easier.
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gallo (Anonymous) says…

Now this Lawrence cop does worse then Guy Neighbors and some of you in here are trying to make him look like a good guy with a bad decision !!! Sayler knowingly sold the videos after he stole them from target after he got a return (target should have checked the boxes) then sold them on Ebay !!!
Guy bought his goods outright and maybe—didnt know they were stolen he did not steal them and he is made to look like the bad guy?? whats wrong woth this picture??
I have known too many crooked Lawrence cops here and that is who the Feds should be looking at first
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bearded_gnome (Anonymous) says…

how do you manage *one time* to return the empty packaging to Target???

I imagine this case essentially fell into the laps of law enforcement and thus the Feds, when someone at Target realized they were getting empty games boxes
returned and either connected it to the defendant or reported the activity to the authorities.

took 'em a long time to figger it out!

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$38 per game, just dumb. a lot of effort, a lot of risk, for not enough payoff!.

I wondered, while reading this, whether perhaps he has a psychological problem behind the thefting and the excitement of the ebay auctions.

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lawrenceguy40 (Anonymous) says…

I'm here, Smitty.

What more is there to say? It is the type of behavior I would expect from LPD. I've been saying it for years, but the consensus is that they are all puritanical heroes. This just proves me correct.
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VoiceOfReason (Anonymous) says…

There is justice in this world. This “officer” was single-handedly responsible for my current disdain for the LPD. In the summer of 2003, we caught him (with proof) in multiple lies, writing tickets based on made up information (I still have the proof and the ticket with his slimy signature on it). He lied to my face and, after being caught in his lies, stammered some dumb excuses before, finally, being ordered to “eliminate” the tickets in question. This guy was a criminal from day one and it's about damn time he pays for it.
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VoiceOfReason (Anonymous) says…

It's unfortunate that it took Federal charges for him to be brought to justice, though. He lasted 5 and a half years in the lpd after they knew about his propensity to make up evidence. Says a lot about the ethics in our department.

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VoiceOfReason (Anonymous) says…

Before anyone calls me a cop-hater…I have close family in law enforcement. Just not in this corrupt town.
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notjustastudent (Anonymous) says…

“If a doctor or nurse smokes cigarettes, does that mean they are less capable of doing their job?”
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No…but if they are caught stealing they are fired and reported to the authorities. An ex-coworker of mine was fired and referred to prosecutors in Jo Co for stealing $20 from a patient…as she should have been. Certain fields give you access to people at their most vulnerable and you should be held to a higher standard of behavior in that job, as a result. A cop caught stealing is worse than a janitor caught stealing because he took an oath to uphold the very laws he broke. And what does that do to every case he's been involved in the prosecution of? How many convicts and/or defense attorneys right now are doing jigs because the arresting officer turns out to not have such an untarnished reputation. To have your testimony stand up as evidence in court, your reputation has to be stellar. If it isn't, you can't be an effective cop. But you CAN work for the LPD.
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was_freashpowder2 (Alexander Neighbors) says…

I think there is a Guy Neighbors in prison who needs to be released on the grounds this is proof that there are corrupt individuals in the police department.

No wonder they were up in arms about blogging it sheds to much light on the truth.

http://www.scribd.com/doc/14597829/Tr…

Does anyone else think whats going is wrong ?
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shadowbox66044 (Anonymous) says…

I don't care what this article says. He was a good cop. He helped me out and did his job very well. And lets not forget, innocent until proven guilty.
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roger_o_thornhill (Anonymous) says…

Good Lord! $58,333 per year and he comes up with this, almost cartoonish, scheme for “about $526”? He really over thought this plan. There are much easier, much less illegal (but still some illegal if that is your “bag”, so to speak), ways of making “about $526”! If I were so inclined, I could think of two or three here, but I wouldn't want to give anybody any ideas. How many charges total? 30? 40? I realize his sentence, if convicted, won't be so bad as it would seem with that many separate charges… but still, that's a lotta crime for so few dollars! He only earned $37.57 per wire fraud charge alone! What's that gonna cost him in lawyer's fees? Plus fines! Restitution to Target! And what if he used his bank card or credit card to buy the games in the first place? It does appear to be true that crime, indeed, does not pay! Man, I could just imagine my life with $58K/yr ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ;)

(Looks like I'm a big fan of the exclamation point this morning. Sorry!)<—he he
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purplesage (Anonymous) says…

Who was it that made the observation, “If they weren't cops, they'd be criminals?” Often times, that is a very fine line. What, with cash, drugs, etc. that never make it into evidence, the strong-armed bullying, the whole attitude that “we're the police, we can do what we want,” it gets hard to tell one from the other.

In my opinion, law enforcement tetters on the verge of out of control and our society could easily become a police state. Freedoms vanish everyday and since 9/11 and homeland security the pace has hastened.

But in the big scheme of things, it looks as if the guy lost a nearly $60K a year position for a really stupid reason. Wonder why he was so desperate? Money managment, gambling, addictions? There may be a man with real problems behind this story.
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First off this is my first ever post and my last. I will say I am an officer that worked with Sayler for awhile. I can't give out information about the case because the occurrence didn't happen in Lawrence anyway. We are all a little shocked but I will tell you that besides his huge mistake he was still a darn good Officer. He always gave more of himself to helping people than the rest of us. So much so that he was pushed off investigations several times for putting too much time and effort into them when the department was so backed up. A quality that you don't really see often. As the article stated he truley is a hero. He put his life on the line more than once to save or help someone when he didn't have too.
Voice of Reason- I don't know what your talking about, but I think your making something up here. If Officer Sayler was ever in trouble for anything it was for not writing enough tickets. He always let people off with kind words. I highly doubt your claim that he made up tickets. Any officer that knew Sayler would say the same. (If you don't believe me go to municipal court and ask to see the ticket record) He in my opinion was often too nice to people and gave people breaks throughout his time here. I wish you luck and hope you get everything in your life figured out.
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KansasPerson (Anonymous) says…

One small thing I don't understand:

It's been a while since I bought a video game, but I thought that there was some sort of store-rule that you couldn't return it once it had been opened. Or is that only computer games?

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swan_diver (Anonymous) says…

Worker's wages are falling while prices for everything continue to rise. Many must find 'creative' ways to earn a living. Isn't that how the big boys do it? By stealing from the public trough, to the tune of trillions?

This former officer will be punished then, while thieves and murderers like Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld and others go free.

America. What a town.
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VoiceOfReason (Anonymous) says…

Oldtimer -

I love the way a cop always defends a cop…”besides his huge mistake…” A “mistake” would have been forgetting to pay for the candy your kid had clenched in his hand. Stealing is a crime, not a mistake. You were all a little shocked…that he is, apparently, a criminal. Then, just perhaps, you weren't familiar with all of his prior “mistakes”.

I'm not sure what your comment about “figuring out my life” is about. I have a great life…a wonderful family, a great job, and good friends…no criminal record…not even a speeding ticket. I live an honest life with good values. And I detest it when someone disgraces the uniform with egregious behavior. It tarnishes the image of the good ones. And even more so when the “brotherhood” jumps to defend their crime as a “mistake”. Good cops don't defend bad ones.

I don't really care if you believe what happened in 2003. I'm just happy a bad cop is facing the justice system he was supposed to uphold. That's enough satisfaction for me, regardless of who wants to defend him. Justice will be served and, in the long run, you reap what you sew. Good enough for me.

This will also be my last post on this subject. I'm happy that the law caught up with him. I'll let the courts determine the outcome.
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KansasPerson (Anonymous) says…

One small thing I don't understand:

It's been a while since I bought a video game, but I thought that there was some sort of store-rule that you couldn't return it once it had been opened. Or is that only computer games?

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Kansas Person, last I knew it was video games too. Makes me wonder if there was someone on the inside who turned on him when they were busted! Even video stores check to make sure the movies are still inside. If the wrapper is removed it is only common sense! DUH! Which brings up another question, did he have something to rewrap them or do they sell them without the plastic wrapper?
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was_freashpowder2 (Alexander Neighbors) says…

VoiceOfReason:
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Sooooo True but at this point there are so many corrupt cops in the LPD the only Answer is a citizens review board. HELL I know people that would work on it For FREE just to ensure the community can better manage the Thugs in the LPD. If we are ever going to ensure the safety of the community we need the community to have over sight of the Lawrence police Department.

Voice of Reason -> not only do bad cops defend bad cops but they also Lie for them as well.
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frwent (Anonymous) says…

'Wasent there a guy who has been claiming this for the last few years ??” Freshpowder2

YES! I have been stating for over a year now that I have PROOF of criminal misconduct of two LPD officers and violations that were committed. I filed a complaint with the LPD “internal investigations unit” (the fox investigating the hen-house) and was told by Chief Olin that my “concerns were unfounded” I have contacted state and federal representatives and been told that the city comission is responsible for regulating the police department. I have sent notification to all five of the previous comissioners (Hack, Highberger, Amyx, Dever, and Chestnut) that I have printed official documented evidence of violations committed by Lawrence Police Officers (not this officer) but have been ignored aside from an e-mail from Hack that my “case was closed” They never opened a case or even responded.

So why is anyone surprised at this news item? The Chief of Police shields his officers from their violations and wrogdoing. Why is anyone surprised???????????

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was_freashpowder2 (Alexander Neighbors) says…

frwent:

GUy did the same thing and because his complaints had merit they attempted to silence him.

Here are the responses back from all the people you mentioned above when he filed his complaint.

http://www.scribd.com/doc/16208904/Le…

Everyone responds back saying they cant do anything……so the LPD pretty much has no one and I mean no one in control of them.
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frwent (Anonymous) says…

Freashpowder2..I have just sent a new complaint to all five of the “new” commission including Mr Cromwell and Mr Johnson.
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pfunk81 (Anonymous) says…

I like my bacon slightly crispy, with a bit of syrup.
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was_freashpowder2 (Alexander Neighbors) says…

David L Corliss,
In 2006 you said you would review the actions of the police department but only after the case # 06-20171-01/02/CM/JPO was not in litigation. Case number 06-20171-01/02/CM/JPO Was dismissed Due to speedy Trial violations. Now with the Case dismissed why have you not reviewed the Conduct of the police department in that case like you said you were going to do ? Its still not to late.

His letter is on Page 3 of this shared document.
http://www.scribd.com/doc/16208904/Le…

City leaders the previous city leader thought it was fit to review the conduct of this case. This is your chance to make it right.

Robert Chestnut
Mike Amyx
Aron Cromwell
Lance Johnson
Michael Dever
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frwent (Anonymous) says…

Freash, you are wasting your time with the city commission and core-less. He is in the same league with the commission and dictates to them how the city is to be run.
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whatupdown (Anonymous) says…

On a scale of 1 to 10 crime level this is like a .01, up there with bubble gum theft, a federal crime?? 10 on the stupid level though. He should have stolen from China-Mart, I mean Wal-Mart.
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beobachter (Anonymous) says…

So is yh on the 10 level? Appears so based on their actions.
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snap_pop_no_crackle (Anonymous) says…

Alex's got a lock on the Thready McThreadjack trophy for the past two days' efforts.

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blahhhh (Anonymous) says…

Oldtimer-
Thank you so much for your post. I appreciate everything you said about Ryan. It is extremely true that if anything, he was one of the nicest police officers. He did let many people get off easier than they probably should have.

Anyone who knows the REAL Ryan Sayler, knows that he is a GREAT person and he WILL get his life straightened out.
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pace (Anonymous) says…

I think of this as serious. I don't think he needs counseling, I think he needs time. time, not probation. if guilty.
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been_there (Anonymous) says…

So according to YH logic, because one officer committed a crime that makes all crimminals innocent and they all should be released. Oh and let's not forget the theory on the other board, if Bush had won the election, Guy would not in jail and the charges would be dropped. By the way I'm still waiting for the police to come looking for me YH, maybe I just wasn't home when they came.
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Bladerunner (Anonymous) says…

It took awhile to read all that and now i have to wonder if frwent, freash, smitty, and the voiceof reason all either the same person or all yellowhouse owners or employees!
by the way snap…I loved the thready Mcthreadjack comment. I fell victim again. In my old age i tend to forget things.
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mistreated (Jose Carlos Miranda) says…

My name is Jose Carlos Miranda. I been trying to tell you guys. I know every corrupt officer in Lawrence Police Department. I can point with my finger. It's not everybody, but it's more than 25. I can take a lie detector. I been stopped by the police department more than 400 times. It's in 911 records. If they are still there and nobody erased it out. I've been attacked 2 o'clock in the morning by a police officer with no uniform. I been discriminated. I been mentally abused by this officer that is caught stealing and all his friends in Lawrence Police Department. I report it to the FBI, Internal Affairs, Justice Department, ACLU. I got more than four or five written complaints to the Police Department in Lawrence. They don't want me talk to the news because I got 50 witnesses. I got another complaint where a police officer, the name, Walker, in Eudora, where I live, try to open my door without warrants because he think he was seeing me driving with a suspended driver's license. That is no reason to try to break in my door and trespass on my property. I got witness, too. They don't want me to be in the news, telling the truth to the good community in Lawrence, because I got proof of everything that I'm saying. They try to build a case on me, and they don't got nothing on me. I got letters from citizens like the chief of the police department telling me I am wrong. I know too much that put my life in danger. The other night, I be stopped by a police officer with no uniform, same cop, who attack me in my car 2 o'clock in the morning. He told me one of these days, somebody going to find me in the ditch. I report it to the FBI. I got a witness, too. when a police officer from Lawrence look for AK-47, bazookas, and grenades inside my truck—several times. I am not a terrorist. I hate terrorists same same like I hate corrupt police officers. No matter what this country do to me, I will give my life for this country and the people of this country. God bless America. Jose Carlos Miranda
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beobachter (Anonymous) says…

Great fairy tale.
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been_there (Anonymous) says…

Mistreated's style of writing reminds of those scam letters I get from Nigeria in my e-mail all the time telling me I can have hundreds of millons of dollars if I help them get the money which is rightfully theirs.
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been_there (Anonymous) says…

It would be interesting to hear from someone who is reputable from Eudora that knows this guy and can attest that he is not some psycho that forgot to take his meds.

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mistreated (Jose Carlos Miranda) says…

My reputation is better than the cop caught stealing from Target. I bet you that comment about me coming from a dirty cop from Lawrence Police Department. By the way, I don't need to take medicine for tell the truth. Everything what happened to me is recorded in 911.
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beobachter (Anonymous) says…

So, the tale gets more un-believable. You've called 911 over 400 times. Any bets that 99.9999999% were BS?
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was_freashpowder2 (Alexander Neighbors) says…

beobachter:
“dirty corrupt cop sticking up for other crooked cops.”
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been_there (Anonymous) says…

Sorry, not a cop, just don't believe everything I hear or read.
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DanAlexander (Dan Alexander) says…

Ryan let me and a friend off for riding our motorcycles up onto the sidewalk so we could park them in our yard. The other cop wanted to really stick it to us. Ryan called him off.

He seems like he made a mistake but overall he was one of the good guys in his daily actions.
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beobachter (Anonymous) says…

Alex, I'm not a cop, but sure respect them for the scum they deal with. If you would like names. maybe we could start with yh, smitty and now mistreated?
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pace (Anonymous) says…

we could start with what are the dangers of a crooked cop, one who steals, cheats, lets special people off with a shrug, and a police department with a fear of a citizens review board? Blaming yh for this cop being in the news is plain stupid. This guy made the paper on his own. I think if guilty he should do time and his service record be fine toothed combed by an outside party. A crooked cop is more dangerous than the average crook.
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mistreated (Jose Carlos Miranda) says…

I am “Mistreated.” My real name is Jose Carlos Miranda. I live in 825 Fir St, Eudora. I don't hide my face behind any Anonymous. If a crooked cop like you wants to discuss face-to-face, you can come to see me. Don't be afraid. I am not violent. I will don't hurt you. Come on, crooked cop or citizen.I got proof. Let me show you. I see you soon..

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was_freashpowder2 (Alexander Neighbors) says…

mistreated:
*check your messages*

Strange…. if there is no corruption in the LPD why does this corruption problem keep effecting different people in the community ?

Here is a motion filed by the feds comparing Guy Neighbors case to ENRON !?!?

http://www.scribd.com/doc/15803567/Go…

I always thought the LPD claimed they were fencing but now the Prosecutor is trying to claim they are part of a securities and exchange Fraud !? WTF ?!?

that's one hell of a stretch but I guess that's what you do to innocent people.
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beobachter (Anonymous) says…

alex, please provide some proof of LPD corruption. That is real proof, not some wild claims that can't be verified, like mistreated's rants.
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was_freashpowder2 (Alexander Neighbors) says…

LOL……

you're looking at a documented case right here (please scroll up)

and just to make sure we are using the same definition.
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictio…

I know you love the LPD but some of them have broken moral compasses. Does not mean they are bad people just means they must be monitored.
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flyin_squirrel (Anonymous) says…

This guy was a great officer and person. I hope the allegations prove untrue.
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was_freashpowder2 (Alexander Neighbors) says…

you know I wonder if he is innocent and someone is painting him guilty to cover their own tracks because he is a nice guy its some of the people he works with that could be questionable, Because the state will have to prove beyond reasonable doubt that he in fact committed any crimes.
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lawthing (Anonymous) says…

Innocent until proven guilty…..
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KUnlv13 (Anonymous) says…

Mistreated: I must say that for the typed broken English you present the proper usage of your commas is quite remarkable and atypical. Or you're quasi-literate…
Regardless, boohoo. All this chatter regarding 'crooked cops' is rather tame in comparison to other locales, and if it's so atrocious to the point of inconvenience (in his/her case…) might one suggest you relocate? As a Las Vegas resident (though my heart resides in Lawrence) I must make note of our trigger happy LVMPD…Consider your video game bandit a minor inconvenience. Trial, verdict, life goes on…
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samsnewplace (Anonymous) says…

Ryan is a caring person who made a terribly bad decision that cost him his career, not to mention what will happen in the future. He is a hero and I hope he gets his life back on track.

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monkeyspunk (Anonymous) says…

I am interested in how he was able to make the returns to Target and for them to go unnoticed for so long. Someone at Target got caught and turned on him. If the Feds are smart they will have much more.

They will have Ebay records, IP addresses, PayPal transfers to actual bank accounts, serial numbers from the games. Most likely they will seize his own personal computer, where they will find traces left that point to paypal and ebay account activity, unless he was smart enough to wipe it. Someone who risks a $60K a year job for $600 isn't that smart I would wager.

@lawthing: That only applies in a court of law.
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blahhhh (Anonymous) says…

Reality-
obvioulsly he didn't make more on ebay if you would get your facts straight and read the story. And I can assure you tax payers aren't paying for his kids' insurance. Ryan may have made a HUGE mistake, but he will always make sure his kids are taken care of. Speaking of that, you really need to leave his kids out of this. They are the innocent ones and don't need people like you judging them for mistakes their dad made.
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Reality-
I have Known Holly for years and for you to slander her Name is Ridiculous!! If she really hit your kids or used profanity the State of Kansas would have shut her down But that has not happened she has been sucssesfully running her buisness for years!!! Maybe you are just some of those low life people that have nothing better to do with your time than to hurt other people! Holly watched my Children and they were very happy there! As for Ryan who I also know He has made a mistake that he will have to deal with for years to come but that Gives NO ONE the Right to Slander His EX-Wifes name his Childrens names or his current Wife I think all you Nasty People should Do something Productive with your days instead of Hurting people who dont deserve to be hurt!!!
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getalife3 (Anonymous) says…

OK first of all the last 3 posts are correct. leave the kids out of it!!! They have nothing to do with it. I also know for a fact the kids are not on Medicaid nor will they ever be on it. And as far as their mother i'm sure if she was doing something so horrible that she would have her daycare shut down as well. If shes had a daycare for so many yeas she must be doing something right. So get a life and stop trashing innocent people.
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getalife3 (Anonymous) says…

Oh and since when did this whole issue become about the wife, ex wife, kids, and the x's business?? They all had nothing to do with Ryan doing what he has done!
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Rinnierice01 (Anonymous) says…

Reality- first of all just as the last 3-4 comments… this has nothing to do w/his ex-wife or kids leave them out of this. Just for the record.. my son goes to her daycare and we love it. My son wakes up excited to go to see Miss Holly! So please stop saying hurtfull things about her and her children. Have some respect for her and her kids.

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mistreated (Jose Carlos Miranda) says…

What I hate most in life is terrorism. But something that I hate more than terrorists, is a corrupt cop from Lawrence Police Department. I got proof of every corrupt cop in Lawrence, I can point my finger in jury trial or take a lie detector. What I say is true. Let's take the case to trial or national TV. Face to face with every corrupt cop who I know. You don't do what I say, the best advice is shut your mouth because probably I know too much about you, too.
29 June 2009
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mistreated (Jose Carlos Miranda) says…

I know Ryan in person, and he know me very well. He knows I know he is corrupt. He do more corrupt things but he never get caught. What about his close friends in the police department? They are more corrupt than him. The system doesn't work right for citizens like me. You guys needs citizens like me. Always I tell the truth, even when I lie.
15 July 2009
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mistreated (Jose Carlos Miranda) says…

We live in America. We know some of America is not good. We do everything to hurt people's feelings or cause a problem to people, like the police department in Lawrence Detective Mike McAtee and the chief of police. They try to cut me out in everything. They suspend my driver's license, give me illegal tickets. That is a funny country because Lawrence police department don't suspend the driver's license of hundreds of child molesters and children rapers driving every day around town, exposing themselves around schools, waiting for the next victim child to abuse or molest again. Why I can't drive in my own town to go to work when I am not that kind of person or I got that kind of problem. I believe that the court system and the police department is just a big corrupt game. I believe it is not too much different to a Communist country in Cuba. The only difference is I never be stopped in Cuba by the police too many times than what I've been stopped here in the United States. We don't got homeless persons in Cuba. The dentist school and hospital is free. I be happy to come back to my country right now. Send me back to Cuba, please. I don't to come to this country to be homeless or have to steal every night to survive to the next day because United States suspended the right for me to work after Immigration steal my $300 and don't let me work here. That happened before I get a criminal record, that happened in the country of the freedom, that happened in the country of the opportunity, that is the real American dream? This country don't do nothing for the poor people. That country is my second Communist country. I want to come back to Cuba. Send me back right now. I ask immigration to come back; they deny me. I ask immigration to work here; they deny me. I believe there is a lot of corruption in this country. Sorry, America, you guys made me this way, especially to Lawrence police department. Internal affairs and the boss of the police department who cover all the corruption, the chief. I still say, God Bless America. Forgive them Lord, they don't know what they doing. Notice: if you think education is expensive, try ignorance. My name is Jose Carlos Miranda. I am a Cuban hardcore, not afraid to die, everybody go to the same place. I see you.
15 July 2009
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Informed (Anonymous) says…

Well, Jose, I call BS on your whole rant. I've detected at least 4 different writing styles in your crap posts. Care to try again?
16 July 2009
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fan_of_Larry (Anonymous) says…

mistreated? Living in this country does not afford you the “right” to do as you damn well please, immigrant or citizen. If you do something suspicious, out of line, questionable, illegal or dangerous, law enforcement has the “right” as part of their oath to protect and serve, and will, question you, who you are, what you do, why you do it and when you intend to function in a manner so as to NOT place others in or around you in harm's way…..so tell us again, you were allegedly mistreated for doing absolutely nothing, right!

I know Officer McAtee and I'll tell you this……he shows up everyday, wears a bulletproof vest, has a target over his heart called a badge, comes when people in distress call, and deals with the most low-life vermon God ever placed on the planet. Exactly what is it you do, besides whine, that even remotely resembles “serving” the good people of this community, much less this country. You sure offer high praise for Cuba…..suggest you return. And if, as you say, you can't go back, I'd feel comfortable saying that if anyone drills down into your history, my guess is that you were one of the many psychos, thieves, or low-life vermon that good ole Fidel saw fit to purge from the Cuban system and inflict on the USA as a matter of retribution. So, you no comfortable in USA, you no comfortable in Cuba, might I suggest Mexico as an alternative to heal your suffering? Given the drug wars going on in Mexico right now, my guess is you'd feel right at home. Bye now, we'll not miss you. Go on now. Go on. Go. Hasta la Vista, psico.
19 July 2009
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smitty (Anonymous) says…

**I know Officer McAtee and I'll tell you this……he shows up everyday, wears a bulletproof vest, has a target over his heart called a badge, comes when people in distress call, and deals with the most low-life vermon God ever placed on the planet.**

Is this what McAtee told you, in his own words?

Your stress level is waaaaay off the charts.

LPD detectives have adopted the motto “We work for God” so I feel it appropriate to offer you these helpful words.

1.We admitted that we were powerless over our addiction, that our lives had become unmanageable.
2.We came to believe that a Power greater than ourselves could restore us to sanity.
3.We made a decision to turn our will and our lives over to the care of God as we understood Him.
4.We made a searching and fearless moral inventory of ourselves.
5.We admitted to God, to ourselves, and to another human being the exact nature of our wrongs.
6.We were entirely ready to have God remove all these defects of character.
7.We humbly asked Him to remove our shortcomings.
8.We made a list of all persons we had harmed, and became willing to make amends to them all.
9.We made direct amends to such people wherever possible, except when to do so would injure them or others.
10.We continued to take personal inventory and when we were wrong promptly admitted it.
11.We sought through prayer and meditation to improve our conscious contact with God as we understood Him, praying only for knowledge of His will for us and the power to carry that out.
12.Having had a spiritual awakening as a result of these steps, we tried to carry this message to addicts, and to practice these principles in all our affairs

This isn't about Mike unless you want it to be. If that is the case there are links available to stories of his past problems on the LPD that have made the LJW.

But then that would document the traffic ticket scam for one and further prove the point of long standing corrupt LPD problems .
19 July 2009
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smitty (Anonymous) says…

There's trouble in River City.

http://www2.ljworld.com/news/2003/feb…

**In his letter to Olin, Peck wrote that in December he and a confidential informant learned an out-of-town drug ring had set up shop in Lawrence.

Peck told Olin that shortly after he filed a Dec. 18 memo about the ring with his superiors and the department's drug enforcement unit, the drug operation suddenly and inexplicably folded.

“Almost immediately after filing the memo … my informant advised me that the members of the drug ring came to him and told him that they knew of the police investigation,” Peck wrote in the memo to the department's internal affairs office.

The informant, Peck wrote, said he was told the drug ring had people inside its hometown police department and the Lawrence Police Department.**

McAtee was Peck's partner during all this brouhaha. Peck gets fired while McAtee never gets drawn into the public scrutiny. McAtee is the primary witness for the federal attorneys on drug prosecutions from Lawrence. It appears he is protected from corruption charges to avoid a major number of drug cases from getting thrown out over his knowledge and involvement.

There is long term internal problems at the LPD that fall directly at the feet of Olin and his institutionalised secrecy.

I'll simply reference my conversation with Mike Amyx….

**** I stopped at the barber shop to ask Amyx if there was anything to the rumor of an on going and current investigation by a higher law enforcement authority. He avoided an answer, I asked it another way, he hemmed and hawed, I asked it another way:Mike Amyx said ” It(Olin and his department) is being handled as a personnel matter by the city manager's office.****

Internal investigation of the LPD by higher outside authority is a personnel issue? We will not have an honest police force if we do not require it!

As far as this current $500+ charge that resulted in so many federal charges. Olin's CYA game requires periodical sacrificial prosecutions to keep up appearances.

Yes, Robert Ryan Sayler needs to be prosecuted.

How do we break thru to clean up the more egregious crimes by LPD that don't reach daylight when authorities don't do their jobs of oversight?

Citizens review is an answer.
20 July 2009
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smitty (Anonymous) says…

There's a new album by the coproaches and the Olinites out called Cocaine Blues. So far no one is buying it.

9 August 2009
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mistreated (Jose Carlos Miranda) says…

My name is Jose Carlos Miranda. What i going to say concern whole police department. If you guys keep pushing me around and messing with me, we gonna have some major problem. And in the end, all what you guys gonna doing is call National Guard because all you guys can't fight a special forces like me. I respect the police uniform, but I don't respect who use it and run his mouth at me. I try hard don't have any problems with the police, but I bet you hundred against one, you guys are nothing without uniform. And any one of you, don't have the balls to put the glove in a friendly training against me because I will hit you so hard that any one of you be asleep before you touch the ground. Keep talking BS about me. Be a real man and come to see me. Or the other way, get out of my face. That comment go with the idiot who write anything against me. Be a real man! Don't hide behind your uniform! Citizens like me always show the face, and they don't use bullet proof vest. I got really powerful enemies, but it's ok. That don't make me less dangerous. God Bless America. Jose Carlos Miranda, a real Cuban with big heart.