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Kansas City’s Archbishop Naumann decries slaying of Tiller

June 8, 2009, 11:02 a.m. Updated June 8, 2009, 5:58 p.m.

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— n response to the slaying of Dr. George Tiller, the Roman Catholic archbishop for northeast Kansas has written that violence is unacceptable in the fight over abortion.

“The pro-life movement is about saving lives, not taking them,” Archbishop Joseph P. Naumann, of the Archdiocese of Kansas City, Kan., wrote in a column in The Leaven.com, the online version of the official Catholic newspaper of the diocese.

The Leaven is a weekly newspaper that reports a total paid circulation of 52,800 and enters more than 75 percent of Catholic homes in 21 counties in northeast Kansas, including Douglas County.

“Undercutting the authority of the law by acts of vigilantism is an absurdity for a movement that is trying to gain legal protection for the lives of unborn children,” Naumann wrote.

Naumann’s comments come as Scott Roeder, the man accused in the shooting death of Tiller, has said more violence will occur “as long as abortion remains legal.”

Roeder made his comments from the Sedgwick County Jail in a telephone call to The Associated Press. Roeder is being held on charges of murder in the May 31 slaying of Tiller, whose Wichita clinic provided late-term abortions.

Naumann decried violence, saying those who perform abortions aren’t evil.

“We need to treat those involved with performing abortions and advocating for abortions with the respect that is due to every human being. We need to love them out of their abortion clinics,” he wrote.

Naumann has been an outspoken critic of abortion.

He criticized former Gov. Kathleen Sebelius, who is Catholic, several times over the issue, saying she should refrain from taking communion until she repudiated her support for abortion rights. And he said he found her nomination to become secretary of health and human services “particularly troubling.”

He has also criticized Sebelius for her political ties to Tiller.

Comments

bangaranggerg 5 years, 6 months ago

Sure, sure... Was he like winking a lot when he was telling them this?

Bob_Keeshan 5 years, 6 months ago

“We need to treat those involved with performing abortions and advocating for abortions with the respect that is due to every human being. We need to love them out of their abortion clinics,” he wrote.

Too many cliches come to mind. One about a physician, one about what you preach, one about doing as I say...

Frank Smith 5 years, 6 months ago

What Archbishop Naumann did, just as what Phill Kline did, and what people such as Troy Newman and Jack Cashill and Fred Phelps do, was to foment the violence that resulted in the assassination of George Tiller.

Cashill has only barely concealed his glee and Phelps is celebrating by taking a little time off from picketing GIs' funerals to protest at vigils and George's funeral. Newman and Kline have joined Naumann in trying to distance themselves from the murder, the perhaps inevitable consequence of their collective inflammatory rhetoric. It has been their intention to substitute religious dogma for secular law.

Naumann is clearly not as bad as his named ideological "friends," who each seem without any redeeming societal value, but spare us their pontificating about the murder. We know how they really feel. It could only have occurred in the atmosphere they created.

jayhawkzrule 5 years, 6 months ago

"We know how they really feel." - Kropotkin

Do you really, or are you just furthering your own wishful/hateful stereo-typing of someone you don't agree with?

yourworstnightmare 5 years, 6 months ago

Of course Naumann is correct.

Now he says it...

After Tiller has been assassinated and the goal of the anti-choice extremists has been achieved.

Pardon me priest, but I don't buy your faux concern and consternation.

Let's monitor Naumann's views over the next several years, after the Tiller assassination has settled down.

My guess is he will be right back on the "baby-killer, murderer, evil" bandwagon.

oldvet 5 years, 6 months ago

"My guess is he will be right back on the “baby-killer, murderer, evil” bandwagon"

Of course, you will be happy to provide us with the documentation and links where he was previously on that bandwagon...

or, more likely, you can't...

KatWrangler 5 years, 6 months ago

i don't give a monkeys butt what this guy says. The Catholic Church and their propaganda is a major contributor to Dr. Tiller's death and the violence of other Doctors deaths and bombings of clinics.

Sick, just sick.

yourworstnightmare 5 years, 6 months ago

oldvet can do a Google search as well as I, or search this site.

Asking for references on this forum is like asking for results of a blood test at an orgy.

Naumann has clearly stated that abortion and those who support its legality are amoral, and he has definitley implied that these folks are evil and are murdering babies.

Maybe not the level of rhetoric as a Newman or Phelps, but right there in the mix.

Then again, it does not matter what he has said. His anti-choice goals were achieved with the assassination of Tiller.

oldvet 5 years, 6 months ago

You won't, and more likely can't, provide links to the Archbishop making the comments you claim... you are a liar!

yourworstnightmare 5 years, 6 months ago

Rage on, oldvet.

I simply refuse to do your research for you.

Why don't you find some Naumann statements on the topic, and then we will talk.

yourworstnightmare 5 years, 6 months ago

If the priest truly thinks that what Tiller was doing was immoral and that he was killing babies, how can he now decry Tiller's assassination?

In the black and white world view of Naumann and others, this calculus was worth it. One life to save many. How can he (and other pro-lifers) decry Tiller's assassination if they think he was truly murdering babies?

cowboy 5 years, 6 months ago

Here's his quotes...

"Even more troubling is that earlier in her political career Governor Sebelius accepted political contributions from Wichita’s notorious late-term abortionist, Dr. George Tiller. When this was no longer politically opportune, Dr. Tiller established a political action committee through which he donated hundreds of thousands of dollars to support the election and re-election of Governor Sebelius, as well as other equally staunch supporters of legalized abortion.

Kansas has one of the most restrictive laws regarding late-term abortions. Yet, it has become, in large part because of Dr. Tiller, the late-term abortion capital of the Midwest. How is this possible? It is possible because our current laws have not been enforced. Each time the Kansas Legislature has passed statutes in an effort to improve enforcement of late-term abortion restrictions, Governor Sebelius has vetoed these laws.

As you are aware, because of her long history both as a legislator and Governor of consistently supporting legalized abortion and after many months of dialogue, I requested Governor Sebelius not to present herself for communion. I did this in the hope that it would motivate Governor Sebelius to reconsider her support for what is an intrinsic evil – the destruction of innocent human life by abortion. I also took this pastoral action to protect others from being misled by the Governor’s public support and advocacy for legalized abortion." End of Quote

Today's Catholic church is entrenched in the religious right movement which embraces the "I'm gonna tell everyone else how to live their life " attitude. The Bishops around the country getting involved in inflammatory speech , refusing to receive the president at graduations , and becoming entrenched in politics , are an embarrassment to the Church. I was raised Catholic and attended 12 years of Catholic school , I don't recognize this church anymore.

oldvet 5 years, 6 months ago

Gotch, nightmare.. you're continued ducking of the truth proves my point to all who read... you are a liar and cannot backup your statement... you claim the Archbishop called Tiller (or others) murders and/or baby killers... you are a liar, nothing less... a liar!

yourworstnightmare 5 years, 6 months ago

The priest Naumann is no different than other pro-life zealots who publically condemn the assassination of Tiller but privately delight in it.

After all, Tiller's assassination achieved their goal of preventing Tiller from performing legal late term abortions.

yourworstnightmare 5 years, 6 months ago

Terrorism works. This is why people around the world who do not have the law on their side resort to terrorism.

The pro-life terrorists have achieved their goal by means of intimidation and assassination.

Confrontation 5 years, 6 months ago

Naumann is a crock. He's keeping the KC area in the dark ages.

igby 5 years, 6 months ago

Killing babys is a violent act. But I don't care one way or another how many baby's get killed because there are too many stupid people on earth anyway. Who would want to save these bastard baby's anyway; most of them are from liberals who don't care about the baby and it's better off dead. It's better off dead because it would have been raised by the woman who did not care about the baby and cared more for her on self and how she could market her self better without a baby. It's good to know if your dating someone that's had an abortion so you can dump them just like they did their baby.

oldvet 5 years, 6 months ago

make all the claims you want to, ywn, you're still a liar...

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