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Vatican: Confession, psychologist not same

June 6, 2009

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A Vatican official is lamenting that many faithful don’t confess their sins, and says some confuse a psychologist’s couch for a confessional booth.

Archbishop Mauro Piacenza has told Vatican Radio that the sacrament of penance, which the Catholic church also calls the Sacrament of Reconciliation, has been experiencing a “deep crisis” for decades now.

Piacenza, an official for the Vatican office on clergy, says fewer people distinguish between good and evil, and as a result, don’t go to confession.

The archbishop said in the interview Tuesday that if the faithful don’t have a sense of sin, they might “confuse” confession with “the couch of a psychologist or a psychiatrist.”

Piacenza also says that a dwindling number of priests means fewer confessors to hear the faithful.

Comments

Confrontation 5 years, 11 months ago

Oh, and don't forget that no nasty man would be getting off on your confessions if you didn't get in the booth.

Leslie Swearingen 5 years, 11 months ago

Confrontation, excuse me, no you dint! You did not just call a Catholic priest nasty for attending to the Rite of Reconciliation which is the proper term for confession as it is to make us realize the harm we do to others and to ourselves, to repent and hopefully, not keep making the same mistakes and wrongs over and over. It is a long and honorable tradition and should be used as a partner to therapy if that is what you need.

Confrontation 5 years, 11 months ago

Call it what you want, but we all know what's happening under those black robes. The poor children are the ones who take the brunt of the "confession" in the church.

Rex Russell 5 years, 11 months ago

Raised Catholic (8 yrs. parochial school, mass 6 days a week, 4 yrs CYO) , I can offer an opinion. The parish priest I had always chided us kids that when you go to confession, make it a honest,heartfelt, and remorseful one. He also told us that you can't hide your sins from God. If you go to confession with 10 sins and only confess 9, you walk out with 11. The original 10 sins and 1 more for a false confession. This was a man who eventually did 15 years in Lansing for molestation over a 25 year period where the Diocese and Church moved him from parish to parish after complaint after complaint. Each time, hiding and burying the facts. Two of the boys he molested committed suicide in their early 20's from the trauma. To this day, I don't believe the Church has given a heartfelt,open, and honest confession of THEIR sins. Until that time comes, don't preach to the world.

Rex Russell 5 years, 11 months ago

Raised Catholic (8 yrs. parochial school, Mass 6 days a week, 4 yrs CYO) , I can offer an opinion. The parish priest I had always chided us kids that when you go to confession, make it a honest,heartfelt, and remorseful one. He also told us that you can't hide your sins from God. If you go to confession with 10 sins and only confess 9, you walk out with 11. The original 10 sins and 1 more for a false confession. This was a man who eventually did 15 years in Lansing for molestation over a 25 year period where the Diocese and Church moved him from parish to parish after complaint after complaint. Each time, hiding and burying the facts. Two of the boys he molested committed suicide in their early 20's from the trauma. To this day, I don't believe the Church has given a heartfelt,open, and honest confession of THEIR sins. Until that time comes, don't preach to the world.

BigPrune 5 years, 11 months ago

I don't get it that public school teachers as molesters far out number any priests who were caught as molesters, yet nobody cracks jokes about public school teachers perving our young. The same could be said about Protestant ministers as well. Yes, the schools move these teachers from school to school, even today. Perhaps it is because public schools cannot be sued. Every year or so, some local teach gets caught. Why is it acceptable that the populus turns a blind eye? Because the newspaper doesn't put it on the front page?

Rex Russell 5 years, 11 months ago

Sorry for the double post. LJW said they were experiencing high traffic, "Try again later". Didn't know it was already posted.

Alia Ahmed 5 years, 11 months ago

Big Prune,

I am not disputing or agreeing with your assertion about more school teachers than priests are molesters but wonder if you could provide a link to that information. Also, aren't there a lot more school teachers than there are priests so is your statement referring to the incidence of abusers (%) found in each occupation? When teachers and priests sexually exploit or abuse children, is there data that reports how many victims on average they perpetrate on (one, dozens, hundreds)? Do you think the education system has had a pattern of moving teachers on to other schools like reportedly has happened with priests who were moved from one assignment to another in the Catholic Church?

Back to the original premise of the story, confession may certainly be good for the soul. The Catholic Church has a formal system that recognizes and supports confession. For people who do not have a religious affiliation, perhaps therapy fills that void. Therapy may also provide a person with some techniques if he or she want to overcome a repeated habit or behavior.

bearded_gnome 5 years, 11 months ago

Irish, sadly you see the local liberals here who preach tolerance but are the first to be anticatholic, antichristian.

I do agree that the catholic church should have handled the priest sex scandals much better, and moving them around was absolutely wrong.

the play/movie "Doubt" is a quite moving story in this issue.


Piacenza, an official for the Vatican office on clergy, says fewer people distinguish between good and evil, and as a result, don’t go to confession.

The archbishop said in the interview Tuesday that if the faithful don’t have a sense of sin, they might “confuse” confession with “the couch of a psychologist or a psychiatrist.”

the archbishop is correct, people today don't have such a consciousness of good and evil as in years past. and, going to a psychologist is no substitute for seeing a priest for confession, or if you're a protestant going to a pastor for prayer and advice.

therapy is helpful, and Alia is right, the right kind of therapy will teach the client useful skills. however, a person who has a faith should seek out their faith leader for those issues.

Leslie Swearingen 5 years, 11 months ago

I joined the church in 02 having never been in a church before so St. Johns is my first and only experience. I have found it to be very positive and good. When I was homeless they gave me the kind of help I needed to get out not just a pat on the back. My problem is what do you confess if you are quiet and shy, except when writing, and keep to yourself. B.G. since when are you in favor of therapy? You jumped down my throat for it.

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