" ...emotional attachment has caused Jaegar's behavior to act out his emotional pain."

Ummmm, Wad, Jaeger is responsible for his own behavior and could have acted out his emotional pain by carving on something other than his ex-girlfriend.

" He could not have known at that time exactly, just how bad she was hurt unless he did the damage directly and intentionally to the injured area of her pelvic.

I don't think he knew how bad she was hurt. "

Igby you could not be more wrong. He knew she was very badly hurt because he is the one who harmed her, why else would he have totally lied to the officers about nearly every aspect of the situation? If you, as Jeager claims, went to your girlfriend's house because you were concerned, found her badly injured and were trying to help. Would you drive past the hospital? Would you tell the officer you were going to get pizza? Lie about the origin of blood on you? Lick it off to prevent it from being used as evidence? Not immediately tell the officer that stopped you "My girlfriend is hurt badly and needs help."? And I suspect we will have opportunity to learn about many more lies that Jeager has told that simply do not support his story because it is a total fabrication. He beat this woman badly, he did it on purpose because he felt he had some deranged sense of entitlement to her, he intentionally targeted her sexual organs to make a point. He's a total dirtbag and should be viewed by the public as such. Does he deserve a trial, yes, but he also deserves a conviction on all counts and the harshest sentence permissible under the laws of the state of Kansas.

You're welcome, BeeBee3. It sickens me that whenever a woman is raped or beaten, all responsibility shifts to what she should've or could've done to prevent the crime. Rarely is the defendant's character assasinated or questioned to the same level. Good defense attorneys are quite adept at keeping any like crimes committed by the defendant from being presented at trial; however, a woman's history is fair game.

This is a societal problem. Whether intended or not, the message is clear to all abusers and potential abusers that the victim "makes them" hurt her and therefore,she is responsible and has "earned what's coming to them."

Maybe if we, as a society, spent more time holding people accountable for their actions and less time blaming the victim, the cycle of violence would diminish. Women would start to understand that they are not responsible for the choices an abuser makes to hurt them and the abuser would understand that he can choose to express his anger in a healthy, mature way.

Igby -- Thank you for posting in a less inflammatory, presumptious way. Yes, it does sound like we are in agreement as to Jaeger's guilt. But, we will have to agree to disagree as to her "weakness." My perspective is that Jaeger is the one who is weak and pathetic. He has yet to take responsibility for the act of violence he unleashed on her. However, the victim will live with the psychological and physical scars for the rest of her life. For anyone to say that her "weakness" led to this situation is to further victimize her, only this time it is through words, rather than actions.

I'd like to address three other points you made: 1) "He did not mean for her to get hurt that bad" -- Are you familiar with this case? Maybe you have more information than has been made available. I'm not sure. However, I'm assuming by the use of the word "mutilation" that not only were her injuries external, but internal as well. This doesn't happen by falling on a railing or even glass for that matter.

2) "People get hurt in domestic disputes when they did not mean to hurt them." -- The moment an abuser lays his hands on a woman he intends to hurt her. It is impossible to be physically hurt by another person, unless they make physcial contact with their hands, feet, object or weapon. To ever say they "did not mean to hurt them" is another example of an abuser's proclivity to minimize and deny their actions.

3) "...going to trial was Jaeger's, only choice to get a sentence that reflects the crime that was committed." -- Considering how the trial is starting out, I think it clearly reflects the crime that was committed and he will get exactly what he deserves. Jaeger's arrogance and monetary privilege has obviously clouded his grasp on reality, especially if he thinks he deserves a light sentence.

As a woman, my heart breaks for the victim.It does not matter whether she had possession of drugs, a warrant out for her arrest, or was involved in an abusive relationship with Jaeger. To take a knife (or a piece of glass) and mutilate this woman's vagina to "teach her a lesson" is the most sick, grotesque, demeaning, sinister thing a man could do to a woman. It's tantamount to castration, which is exactly what he deserves.

Alethia: Yes, Jaeger is guilty. He broke in. He battered her. He did not mean for her to get hurt that bad, but still the same, he battered her and she got hurt. He took her out of the house, and that could very well be kidnapping. Fact is, he's guilty of everything the DA's charged him with, so why the trial?

The DA's office was no doubt unresponsive to any plead deals and going to trial was Jaeger's, only choice to get a sentence that reflects the crime that was committed. She did get hurt bad and the DA's got a strong case. There are five different levels of Agg. Battery, and so, as most would believe there are special circumstances in Kansas, but there aren't. The level of Agg. battery upon sentencing can be a broad range of jail time. The lawyers for Jaeger, short of a jury trial could not get the DA's office to reduce the level of Agg Battery too a more acceptable level and their only choice was to take this case to trial and hope the judge would apply the lower level of Agg Battery at sentencing.

Aside from your discourse towards my post, were basically on the same page regarding Jaeger's guilt. There's cases all across America, that are very much the same in nature. People get hurt in domestic disputes when they did not mean to hurt them.

Again, I'm not blaming the victim for her getting hurt, only pointing out that weakness that led to the unprotected violent situation she found herself in with Jeager. People that use drugs daily are prone to make bad choices.

I was being sarcastic, mocking the gun nuts, y'all.

Jerseygirl: "not sure why he would have been carrying a gun to the victim's."

Tumbilweed: not sure why anyone would take a gun anywhere, period.

Igby, thanks for the entertaining post. I know you wanted me to go "run for my meds," but I was too busy laughing my a** off. You actually did a very good job proving my point by continuing to excuse Jaeger for his actions and blame the victim for the vicious attack that was made on her.

Let's see if I can spell this out clearly, so that you'll understand. No one is responsible for another person's actions. No one, male or female, makes another person do anything -- good, bad or otherwise. Can people have an effect on us? Yes. Can we react with anger? Yes.The difference is how we choose to express our anger. Obviously Jaeger was angry. He could have chosen to ignore her, maybe even yell at her, but instead he chose to mutilate her vagina. To imply that the victim could have prevented, or somehow anticipated, the depths of his evil is ludicrous at best.

Since your rant was so long, I don't want to waste anymore of my time pointing out what's obvious to most. Besides that, I don't think you have the intellectual ability to understand what's been posted by KansasPerson, Jersey Girl and others. It would be like fighting a one-legged man in an a**-kicking contest.

Well igby your last post obviously shows you have no idea who or what I am. And no, I am not going to give you anymore clues. If you are not smart enough to figure it out (and I am sure you aren't) I am not going to help you. But, trust me I have never had another guy come over and there are not any kids out there with or without different names.

And I realize I just violated my own statement about not spending anymore time on you. Shame on me.

Well now Jersey_Girl, you seem to have a grasp on reality. I get tired of all the posts about how people will be treated in prison because of what they did. Nobody there cares, because they have done similar.

What they won't like it his arrogant, rich brat attidute and that just might cause him some problems. BTW, I hope he is still having problem with his back and being in shape when he has to be transported there.

Well igby maybe you should hear from somebody new - you are a f**&&&g idiot, and should just go away and not post any more crap on this subject. You have already admitted you are a complete coward and now you are trying to make excuses for a homicidal (yes, it was going to be one) maniac. Just go away !!!!

And no, I will not spend any more time or energy with you.

I'm done for now!

Lets hear it....Jersey_Girl,Kansas_Person and Aletheia!

But not all at once, please! Lol.

After yelling at Jone's and telling him he was going to kill him, Jaeger, could of very well turned his anger on the victim. Perhaps he hurt her more that he intended. He could of pushed her over and she could of slid down a railing and fell on some glass. It happened so fast, just as the time line pointed. He could of grabbed her and choked her in his domestic inflamed rage. What happened after is possibly a classic example of panic. They may have been trying to get her some help but at that time, Jaeger, could have not known the extent of her injuries, if in fact, they did occur as the result of a fall from a push down a railing. May be, they were not going to the hospital at all? He could not have known at that time exactly, just how bad she was hurt unless he did the damage directly and intentionally to the injured area of her pelvic.

I don't think he knew how bad she was hurt.

It's not within Jersey_Girls, Kansas_person or Aletheia, understanding of small town politics, so I will not explain to them why I left this woman to be beaten by her husband; however, I did say it was troubling to me and that it was before the age of cell phones and that later, I did call to learn that the husbands family was well connected and the cops did nothing. Had I had beaten him up, which was my human thought, the women would have turned on me and I would of been the one in Jail. Your just foolish to believe anything otherwise. So, I feel I did the right thing. I never was mad at her over it. I think she was just dome and did not expect her husband to find her that soon. She might of wanted me for protection, but, the first thing she said was "leave now out the back, he will kill you", well that plain enough for me.

Why do I compare this to Jaeger? Now you can get your meds ready! Was Jaeger, the last person to learn that he was being dumped by the victim? Did everyone in their circle know except him? Being dumped, broke-up, moved out, whatever. Was it perfectly clear to him that he was not going to be part of her life anymore or was it a soft break-up, one that leaves him hanging emotionally, financially, or otherwise? It's been said they were broke-up, and done. But did one of her friends tell one of his friends about Jones, the night this happened or did he know about him from the victim, first hand?

If Jaeger, was the person who hurt her that night, someone really set him off to the boiling point. You really have to wonder, if he had intended for this to happen the way that it's been portrayed, he surely, would not of brought his friend along for a attack on her. The friend or driver, must of convinced the police he was un-knowing of any plot of attack on the victim. Someone had too of pushed his buttons that night to cause him to go there with his friend and learn that that someone was telling the truth about another man, Jones.

Now just what is Mr. Jones selling? Himself? Drugs? I wonder. May be both.

Why does Jaeger, want this trial rather than a plea?

Perhaps, he's guilt but not as guilty as he's been portrayed?

If your in love with someone, even if your a total a$$hole, don't you just hate getting played like a sugar daddy?

If you'll read closely, Jersey_Girl,Kansas_Person and Aletheia are the same poster. Nonetheless, they seem to hate my post for some reason that's personal to them. Perhaps, their a little touchy because the victim is their person friend, and I can understand how they feel. However, relentless as they seem to be to see Jaeger, jailed, their logic has become twisted, to attack anyone who says anything contrary or different from what they believe.

So, I decided to just finish you off and make you blow your top to the point that you will need to be medicated.

The victim got hurt, that's not in question. Who hurt her or how she got hurt is in question. Why she got hurt is in question, but she got hurt just the same. Now, as I stated in a former post that I thought Jones, did the right thing by leaving at the victim's request and stated that this was a tell. A tell that reflects the victims state of mind as Jaeger was breaking in, as it was stated. The weakness of the victim, as I put it, is due to her not calling the police like a normal person would because of the warrant and drugs in the house. This is her weakness and she did not protect herself from this threat because of this weakness. She in my opinion is not weak but not normal because she was dirty with drugs and a warrant.

She could of had a court order of protection from abuse, had it not been for this weakness. Jaeger's lawyer, I'm sure, might make issue of this very fact. Her state of mind and just why; if Jaeger, was such a threat to her, did she not do what a normal person would do. Was it because of this weakness or did she not view Jaeger, as a threat. This is a question of state of mind and it adds value to fact. This put's in question, for any reasonable person, as to weather, Jaeger, and the victim still were engaged in a level of relationship, somewhere between "on the back burner or Ex-boyfriend". I would wonder, at this point, was Jaeger, still contributing to her monies in any form, whether in drugs, rents or debts.

@tumbilweed

Yes, because a gun would be the best thing to throw into the middle of an unpredictable, violent situation where at least one of the parties was under the influence of alcohol. Great idea.

licking the blood off his hands.

ate a burger, that's ketchup on his shorts.

oh, he bites his fingernails.

creepy, very creepy.

the defense by their questioning yesterday are admitting that when Jaeger showed up at the victim's door, she was afraid.

now, just why would she be so afraid at that point?

that line of questioning also leads to this question: Jones was running. you usually don't run like that unless you're pretty darned fired up about something. hanging off the balcony, for example.

Jones apparently felt he had good reason to run.

---the defense is admitting by this questioning that both the people in that apartment when Jaeger arrived at the door behaved as if there was a genuine threat.
genuine threat. points to what the victim has said about jaeger's history with her.

Too bad the boyfriend wasn't armed.

He would have dropped this sucker in his tracks!

But this didn't happen. (Again)

Jersey_Girl (Anonymous) says… "I believe the kidnapping charge is a federal offense and carries serious time on that one charge alone."

Jaeger is only being tried in Douglas county with Kansas crimes. As far as I know no Federal kidnapping charges are pending in any Federal court as they did not cross state lines.

The prosecution hasn't finished presenting their case and it is typical at this point in a trial that the defense would be looking very weak. I am sure everyone is curious what the defense's case will be and if the defendant will testify. I would doubt it as he didn't do all that well with police questioning.

I too think it is likely that there was no offer of a plea deal (rightly so) and that this is the only reason he went to trial. From the defendants point of view there is nothing to lose, everything to gain, let's go all in.

It also seems likely that there is at least some information on Jaeger not directly relevant to this case that was excluded from evidence. It may have come to light or been around the time Branson defended him on the DUI and may help to explain why Branson's office felt like they were conflicted out of prosecuting. A simple DUI five or more years ago just doesn't seem to be sufficient on its own.

Lots of information not presented at trial will come out if he is convicted in the court ordered pre-sentence report. If I am not mistaken the KAG's office has filed notices with Judge Fairchild indicating that if they get a conviction they intend to seek the maximum sentence or ask the judge to depart upward from the sentencing guidelines (I forget which). That request may be motivated in part by information they have that can't be used to get a conviction but can be used at sentencing.

Igby - so many things wrong with your posts, so little time. Are you smarter than a 5th grader? Bzzzzzzzzzz! I don't know about your math and geography skills, but your reading, writing, vocabulary and logic need serious work. "Weak and weakness are two different words with two different meanings." Well, technically, yes. One is an adjective and one is a noun. From Dictionary.com:

weakness  –noun 1. the state or quality of being weak; lack of strength, firmness, vigor, or the like; feebleness.

"You really should say out of peoples domestic fights and just call the police, you could get killed or hurt; bottom line." That's precisely what Jones did. He left and went to the victim's brother's house to call the police.

Stephanie - Jaeger's lawyers can only work with what they are given and must do what the client wants. The Other Dude Did It is a standard defense tactic.

weeds- we know what we are doing, thanks.

sometimes you must "play the game"-otherwise, you have to do other stuff, like mow the lawn.

seriously, the defense is changing up stories-or presenting different scenarios for one reason only: they are attempting to lure the jury towards 'reasonable doubt' by throwing out every possible alternate aspect to what obviously really happened.

kinda gross?

No, Igby. Your reading skills (and writing for that matter) are below normal levels. I, like KansasPerson, was appalled while reading your post. You further vicitmized the woman you met in 1982 by characterizing her in offensive words and phrases:

" ...this woman who was no doubt was using me for her own self interest..." and "...this women was not being up-front with me about her situation and she dragged me into it without any remorse." and last, but not least, "...is she worth killing someone over because of her own weakness."

You went on with your victimization by making like comparisons between your experience in 1982 and Jaeger's EX-girlfriend. (Seems like your characterization of her "weakness" of not being "able to end her relationship" is without merit.) The one who couldn't end the relationship was Jaeger. HE was the one stalking and terrorizing HER. Jaeger's girlfriend even moved to an undisclosed location to get away from this jerk. (Not dissimilar to the woman you meant in 1982.) Let's presume that one of your points has merit -- that she should have disclosed her previous relationship with Jones. Was it really necessary given that she thought Jaeger did not know where she lived? Are you assuming that she didn't tell Jones or is this based on fact?

Bottom line is you further victimized Jaeger's girlfriend -- the same way you victimized the woman you met in 1982 -- by implying that all responsibility lay with the woman. They "should have" let their boyfriends know about their abusive exes. They "should have" anticipated exactly when and how they're exes would behave (implied). They "should have" dealt with their weakness (implied). Not one time did you characterize the aggressor in a negative way. Only the victim. This is why KansasPerson -- and I'm sure many others on this board -- reacted with such disdain of your comments.

Igby, your characterizations of abused women have as many holes as Jaeger's defense team's arguments. Maybe you should sit with them, too.

Steph,

Definitely. Again, not trying to defend him, I just don't think people should discredit how the attorneys will try to spin it for him.

Yeah, monkeyspunk, I want to spend my life tracking the activities of losers in prison.

Toe is dead on, you are all playing the game, and you don't even realize it.

'“I just ate a cheeseburger earlier. That might be ketchup,” Jaeger said on the video.'

Ketchup?? Really? He'd had a cheeseburger earlier and at no point noticed there was ketchup and decided to get a napkin... nor did he notice the stain on his shorts? Does this guy really think people are stupid enough that they can't tell the difference between ketchup and blood?

That "might" seems to be really telling as well. It "might" be ketchup, it "might" be blood...

@toe: You're point?

I wish there was some way, once found guilty and sent away to prison, we could get updates on his well-being.

Like:

This week, Jaeger was traded for a pack of Marlboro's from the Aryan Circle to the brothers on cell-block A, and his name was changed from Regina to Betty.

logic,

There are definitely holes to fill. No way this guy gets off. Just wanted people to realize the defendent's lawyer isn't a complete moron:)

And yes, I am 0% trying to defend him. What he did was absolutely awful.

Kansasperson: What's your point! Are you saying that Jones did or did not do the right thing? Are you saying people should get involved in domestic disputes and take the law into their own hands.

Weak and weakness are two different words with two different meanings. I never called her weak but said it was because of her weakness. You should take a reading class. Your writings good your reading skills are below normal levels. Your arguments are not by any means worthy of any interest because you can't seem to make a good point that's clear without changing the text to make your arguments, you should just quit and argue with someone who as less experience in life.

You really should say out of peoples domestic fights and just call the police, you could get killed or hurt; bottom line.

(Part 2, because I went over 3000 characters)

But here's the real kicker:

"I could of just beat the crap out of this guy, easy, but I didn't because this women was not being up-front with me about her situation and she dragged me into it without any remorse."

Okay, here's where you are really showing your true colors. I don't care that in a later post you insist that you called the police later, after you left. You make it clear right here that the reason you did not come to her defense was NOT because cell phones hadn't been invented yet, and NOT because of fear (I could forgive that, but it sounds unlikely, since you could have beat him up "easy") or reluctance to get involved in someone else's domestic crisis, but because you were mad at her! Again, "I didn't [beat up the guy] because this women was not being up-front with me about her situation and she dragged me into it without remorse." You're a real pill. And how do you know that she didn't have a great deal of remorse? I'm guessing you didn't keep in touch with her after that!

"Jones, did the smart thing by leaving, him being there was the threat to his new girl friend and by leaving somehow would help the situation become more calmer, in Jones' mind."

He stated under oath that he left (a) because she asked him to and (b) because she believed that he was the one that was going to get hurt/killed, not her. Obviously she was wrong but if they both believed that, I can understand how they acted as they did (him leaving, her staying).

"But in Jaeger's, case he was determined to take his anger out on her and he did; he thinks he's bought her and paid for her and he weights his ownership rights in her as time as money spent on an un-greatful whore who's disrespecting him with some other guy and he just can't take that siting down ."

Even though you're sort of "quoting" Jaeger's supposed thoughts during that time, your choice of words is kinda scary.

"Many people have been killed in such situations as this and you really have to ask yourself, is she worth killing someone over because of her own weakness, to not be able to end an abusive relationship with a guy like Jaeger."

No one is asking Jones why he didn't KILL Jaeger, for crying out loud. Is she "worth" defending? Why are you even asking this? He didn't jump off the balcony because she wasn't "worth" defending; he did it because at the time, in the rush, it seemed the best way to protect her. You can question the wisdom of that choice, as many do, but I'm not going to stand by and listen to you call this girl "weak."

Okay igby, I was just gonna let it go, but now, I'm not.

"Met a girl at the bowling alley years ago. She wanted me to help her move some furniture in her newly rented house. We left in her car and went to her newly rent house. She had two kids there and during the moving her husband pull up and then she tells me “you got to leave now out the back or he will kill you”. I didn't waste anytime. She did not even mention that she ran away from him with the kids and rented a new house. He found her address and it was a bad situation."

Okay, she had just met you at the bowling alley, and she was supposed to have already told you all the tragedies of her life already? And you act like she should've known he was going to find her.

"As I walk back to my car I could hear him beating her on the lawn and could hear the smacks and screams. This was before cell phones and it was troubling to me because I knew not to get involved in other peoples domestic situations, and I had just met this woman who was no doubt was using me for her own self interest."

Yes, she wanted help moving her stuff, but maybe she wanted a friend too -- did you think of that? Why do you feel so exploited?

(cont'd)

Jersey_Girl (Anonymous) says… "Yes, Stephanie, we get it. You are the neighbor girl."

God! I hope! not! even! Stephanie! would be! that! stupid!!!!

As of 7:17 pm on 7/31, the headline to this story reads:

"Defendent says he was worried for victim’s safety and was trying to help, but a witness said the defendent threatened his life"

Seriously? This is a newspaper. Writers and editors should be able to spell words correctly. If you're not sure, look it up.

Lots of people who CAN spell "defendant" correctly need jobs. Please do better.

igby, she did leave the relationship. She moved to get away from Jaeger and he found out where she lives and came over after being out drinking with his friend.

How is any of that the victim's fault?

bankboy119,

If the defense truly is playing up this "Jaeger found her like that and was trying to help" approach, which I agree it seems like they are, then they have some serious holes to fill:

1) Why did Jaeger try to hide the source of the blood on his hands and shorts when cops questioned him about it? If you're helping a severely injured woman, I think disclosing that the blood is from the woman you are helping is fairly reasonable.

2) They seem to be going two ways here. Yesterday the attorney argued that the victim told Jaeger that she stumbled around and hurt herself on the railing in the dark. Now today, it was another person who did it to her.

3) Why didn't Jaeger, who as a self-proclaimed "trained lifeguard who knew how to treat the woman's injuries" recognize that the injuries were so bad that he couldn't possibly treat them and call 911?

4) And of course, why does one drive past and away from the hospital when allegedly trying to help someone to the hospital.

I know you aren't defending Jaeger, just playing devil's advocate for what the defense might be arguing, but your post seemed a good way to respond with those questions.

I can feel with Jones!

Met a girl at the bowling alley years ago. She wanted me to help her move some furniture in her newly rented house. We left in her car and went to her newly rent house. She had two kids there and during the moving her husband pull up and then she tells me "you got to leave now out the back or he will kill you". I didn't waste anytime. She did not even mention that she ran away from him with the kids and rented a new house. He found her address and it was a bad situation. As I walk back to my car I could hear him beating her on the lawn and could hear the smacks and screams. This was before cell phones and it was troubling to me because I knew not to get involved in other peoples domestic situations, and I had just met this woman who was no doubt was using me for her own self interest. I could of just beat the crap out of this guy, easy, but I didn't because this women was not being up-front with me about her situation and she dragged me into it without any remorse.

Jones, did the smart thing by leaving, him being there was the threat to his new girl friend and by leaving somehow would help the situation become more calmer, in Jones' mind. But in Jaeger's, case he was determined to take his anger out on her and he did; he thinks he's bought her and paid for her and he weights his ownership rights in her as time as money spent on an un-greatful whore who's disrespecting him with some other guy and he just can't take that siting down .

Many people have been killed in such situations as this and you really have to ask yourself, is she worth killing someone over because of her own weakness, to not be able to end an abusive relationship with a guy like Jaeger. She may not of spoke to Jones about Jaeger's possible threats just to save face with her new friend, Jone's. It's reasonable to believe, that she would of with held and bad situation possibilities from Jones.

I wish I was the person that saw this, because Jaeger would still be in the hospital for what I would have done to this guy.

I almost hope they let him walk, so that I can see him out late one night, in a dark alley maybe

The more I hear about this guy, the more I wonder how he made it to his early 20s without getting caught for something similar in his past!

Wonder what his behavior around small defenseless animals was when he was a kid...... shudder.

if this guy walks, i'll be waiting outside of the court house

ready to test his jit-whatever moves, a public beating would serve him and the community best!

"“A man hit your lover and your response was to turn and run away,” Saken said.”..........

Is it just me, or did the defense just throw the trial with that statement? Jeagers attorney is questioning the man who was in the apartment with her, and he says to the man...... "“A man hit your lover and your response was to turn and run away,” Saken said.”.......... I thought the whole defense was that jeager was trying to help? They just admitted he hit her!!!!

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Keith,

That was only part of what the attorney said. Obviously, that would be fail if that was truly the defense.

The whole defense, more than likely, would be the lawyer questioning the plausibility of that statement. Remember, Jaeger's attorney is arguing that Jaeger found the victim like that. So the lawyer is making it seem as if nobody in their right mind would leave an abused woman with their abuser. Also, the coward calling, you get the boyfriend emotional, he acts out, gives the defense more credibility to their story that the boyfriend attacked her, not Jaeger. This leaves Jaeger coming to the girl's defense and going to get her help.

Seems like a more complete argument than just calling the guy a coward and saying he ran away at least.

throw him in jail and lock the lock, and throw the key away...

this loser needs a life, doing this to a women.

pretty funny about the guying running away like a coward though, had this been me, the case would be Jaeger vs. me for battery, because I would have given that guy the one two knock out like ol' bruce lee. haha

Jaeger I hope you wake up tom. and realize your one of Lawrence's biggest losers, maybe you'll choke on your saliva tonight instead.

Let's see now...

Jaeger was concerned about her, that's why he called and texted her 26 times in 40 minutes during the evening in question. Got it.

The injuries to the victim occurred because she fell on a railing in her apartment while stumbling around in the dark. OK- this type "accident" is widely known as the third leading cause of severely mutilating female pelvic injuries in the U.S...

They were trying to get help for her pelvic injuries (you know, the ones sustained after falling on the railing) so they decided to "airlift" the victim by dragging her down the stairs by her hair. Still makes sense so far...

Rather than call 911 and waiting several minutes for an abulance and EMTs to arrive, they put her in the car-but thought it would be best to bypass the hospital to get some pizza first. Must have needed sustenance for the long journey to the ER. Truly a compassionate visionary...

There was blood on his hands & shorts because he chewed his fingernails. He was just nervous about her well-being and gnawed a bit excessively. Happens all the time.

Sounds plausible-how could they even charge Jaeger with a story like that? LPD and the victim probably should have thanked him, given him a ride home and offered to do his laundry. Perhaps one of the local nail salons would have comped him a makeover.

(Sarcasm meter obviously pegged)

Practicality's comment was not sexist, although it was not inclusive. Obviously, all children should be raised to respect themselves and others and to walk away from those who do not respect them or treat them right.

And, yes, you can trot out the occasional case of a controlling, psycho woman doing (or attempting to do) great harm to a boyfriend, husband, ex, new gf of same, etc., (NASA lunatic, anyone?) but if you look at the numbers, it is overwhelmingly obvious that women are far more likely to suffer at the hands of obsessive, controlling men than vice versa. That speaks to a societal failure in the way a lot of men and women are socialized--obviously, that's what Practicality was addressing.

More men than women become violent to control their "loved ones" and more women than men are likely to enter into and remain in relationships that endanger them physically and psychologically. Pointing out the rare exceptions to the rule does not alter the facts & figures. And it should go w/o saying that those exceptions (men being victimized) deserve the same help from society that female victims SHOULD be getting. In truth, neither is getting what they need. Abusers get away with it more often than not. This needs to change!

"Saken accused Jones of making up the story about Jaeger threatening his life, so as not to look like a coward for leaving the victim’s apartment.

“A man hit your lover and your response was to turn and run away,” Saken said."

Defense attorney FAIL, sounds like he's admitting his client is guilty.

Amen, Practicality.

If one of my sons did anything this heinous, I'd shoot him myself, then follow him. Parents of this scumbag = utmost failures. And I'm not saying that just on the basis of what he did, but because of the way they choose to handle what he did. Instead of apologizing to the victim and wanting to get mental help for their son, as other families have responded when mentally ill offspring committed atrocious crimes, these people are paying expensive and aggressive lawyers to try to get him off scot-free.

This is just sick. I doubt they could be in so much denial that they actually believe his (and his lawyers') contrived spin. No, they just have a complete, inhuman disregard for the victim (as well as potential future victims) and their philosophy seems to be to get their psychopathic son exonerated at whatever cost--to their finances and, ultimately, to society.

If they succeed, he will undoubtedly kill his next victim to keep her from testifying. That's what people like Jaeger generally end up doing if they are not stopped in their tracks. We've all read about these cases way too many times. We know what the outcome will be if he ever gets out. Tragically, there is an endless supply of insecure females out there just waiting to be victimized by the Jaegers of the world. By all means--teach your daughters to be strong, self-sufficient, and self-respecting.

It would also be a good time to talk to your parents about being honorable and turning yourself in when you have outstanding drug related warrants out for you.

I feel badly for the victim, but they have the wrong guy. Free matt J!

For all you posters who are parents,

now would be a good time to talk to your daughters about safe and effective ways to get out of an abusive relationship if ever they find themselves in one.

It would also be a good time to talk to your sons about the proper way to deal with rejection. As well as explain that in no uncertain terms should you ever treat a woman this way, no matter what she did to you.