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Oklahoma prep standout Xavier Henry, right, announces his commitment to Kansas University as mother Barbary Henry looks on in this file photo from April 23 in Oklahoma City.

By Gary Bedore

July 1, 2009

May 18, 2005 — C.J. Henry, a baseball/basketball standout at Putnam City High, commits to play basketball at KU, his dad’s alma mater. He admits the June major-league baseball draft ultimately might derail his college hoop dreams, however.
June 7, 2005 — Henry is drafted by the New York Yankees as the No. 17 overall pick in the MLB draft. He says he will definitely choose baseball over college hoops. Shortly after, he agrees to a signing bonus worth well over $1 million dollars. “To be picked by the Yankees is very special,” C.J. said.
August 26, 2008 — Henry, who hit .234 in 20 games during an injury-plagued season with Class A Tampa, announces he has quit baseball and decided to play college basketball at Memphis. He said “the hardest phone call I ever had to make,” was to KU’s Bill Self, informing him he’d decided to resurrect his hoops career at Memphis, not KU.
November 18, 2008 — Xavier Henry, wearing a Memphis cap, appears on ESPN in an early-morning made-for-TV news conference at Putnam City High and announces he has signed with the Tigers over runner-up Kansas. He cited the “deciding factor” as a chance to play for a year with his brother, C.J.
April 23, 2009 — Xavier and C.J. decide to switch allegiances from Memphis to KU in response to Tiger coach John Calipari on April 1 leaving the Tigers’ post for the coaching job at Kentucky. Xavier makes his announcement at a late-morning news conference back at Putnam City High’s gym. Xavier tells a pack of media members — not just ESPN this time — that he “always loved Kansas ... it’s been a dream school for me.” Mom Barbara revealed that Xavier wanted to go to KU all along, but opted for Memphis the first time to keep the family together. “I just always dreamed of going to Kansas. I took a step back (because) my brother was at Memphis. I did it to keep the family together. Now that he can play anywhere with the coaching change, I got my chance at Kansas,” Xavier told the media.
May 19, 2009 — C.J. Henry officially is admitted to KU. In announcing the completion of paperwork, Self said: “I see him as a guy that’s going to challenge to play a ton of minutes. I really believe we’re going to be pleasantly surprised with the impact he’ll have on our program.”
June 1, 2009 — Carl Henry responds to a Twitter post that reported Xavier and C.J. had second thoughts about KU and might reopen their recruiting. “Nothing has changed,” Carl Henry said.
June 11, 2009 — KU coach Bill Self tells the media that Xavier and C.J. won’t be attending summer school. C.J. would continue to rehab from a cracked bone in his foot that forced him to red-shirt his freshman season at Memphis, and Xavier would work out with a personal trainer while making regular visits to the dentist for a problem with the removal of his braces.
June 30, 2009 — Carl Henry speaks on 610 AM afternoon radio show after 2 p.m. and indicates family is upset at Kansas City newspaper story that was printed the previous weekend and that his sons are now considering Kentucky again. Self acknowledges the family is upset and was looking into the matter.

Xavier and C.J. Henry will remain members of Kansas University’s basketball program.

The brothers — who apparently were angered by a Kansas City Star newspaper article that the Henry family felt portrayed it in a negative light — on Tuesday were considering dropping their commitment to KU for Kentucky, the brothers’ dad, Carl Henry, said.

However, all was smoothed over by late Tuesday night when Xavier Henry sent a text message to Kansas City 610 radio’s Cory Anderson indicating he would remain a Jayhawk.

“I’m goin’ to Kansas and that’s final,” Anderson said in reading the message to the Journal-World.

Henry had sent the message to Anderson at 10:48 p.m.

Shortly after, Henry sent the same text message to Foxsports.com’s Jeff Goodman.

Earlier Tuesday, acknowledging there was a possible problem, KU coach Bill Self made plans to meet with the Henry family Tuesday night in Oklahoma City.

Carl Henry told Rivals.com he’d comment on the meeting and his sons’ status Wednesday.

“I’m still looking into this,” Self told the Journal-World on Tuesday, before the meeting, which obviously cleared up the problem.

“I am ready for the finality of it (on where Henrys are going to school). I believe that will occur very soon,” Self added.

Self told the J-W that because of the “article and blogs and people commenting on the article, the family is very upset and concerned about how they’d be treated in Lawrence.”

Expressing anger at the newspaper article, Carl Henry said in an interview with KC 610 radio that his son, Xavier, actually had stayed in touch with incoming Kentucky freshmen John Wall and Daniel Orton and recently told Carl he might want to switch his allegiance to UK.

“A couple weeks ago, my youngest son (Xavier) tells me he wanted to go to Kentucky. Said he’s thinking about it,” Carl told the station. “He keeps in touch with John Wall and Daniel Orton. They are good friends. What happened is those guys get to talking to him, they could probably change his mind. Actually that’s what happened. I was talking to Xavier. I’m telling him, ‘Hey, man, I know those are your friends, you can’t change just like that. You already gave a commitment (to KU). You already said you were coming. Now all of a sudden you don’t want to come any more? Just because your friends said, “Hey, this (Kentucky) will be a great place?”’’’

Self said the Henrys, who switched their allegiance from Memphis to KU after coach John Calipari headed to Kentucky, gave their word they were coming to KU and thus he is “past the point of being concerned with (their) recruiting. Either they are coming or not coming. There’s no reason for fans or people who support the university to be concerned. They gave us their word they are coming. If an article keeps them from coming, of course it’d be disappointing, but it’s not anything I can control.”

Apparently the article did not sway the Henrys to switch schools once again.

Xavier Henry announced April 23 he would attend KU with C.J. He signed and was released from a national letter of intent at Memphis and was not allowed to sign a second national letter. Thus, the commitment is non-binding.

Carl told 610 radio Tuesday morning that Xavier actually wanted to announce for Kentucky back in April. That conflicts with what Xavier said at his KU commitment news conference: that he wanted to attend KU over Memphis all along but initially chose Calipari’s Tigers because of family concerns.

“If it wasn’t for his mother saying that ‘I would not go to Kentucky,’ Xavier would have been at Kentucky,’’’ Carl Henry said during the radio interview. “So Xavier says, ‘I’m going to go to Kansas,’ even though what he wanted to do is go to Kentucky, play under coach Cal. That’s what he wanted to do.”

Carl said that following the printing of the newspaper article, Barbara did not care if her sons switched from KU to UK.

But at least for now — this saga has changed repeatedly — the Henrys remain KU-bound.

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1 July 2009
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KEITHMILES05 (Anonymous) says…

Perhaps now Carl will STFU. He is the problem and only he.
1 July 2009
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jayhawks71 (Anonymous) says…

This is ridiculous. Are you kidding me? They were considering skipping out on KU because a writer in a KC newspaper said something they didn't like? Are you kidding me? I wish the NBA would do away with this stupid rule that makes kids go to college when they don't want to be there. Let's stop coddling. Let them make the leap, if they fail, c'est la vie! There was a KU before Xavier Henry and there will be a KU after Xavier Henry. Right now I am not sure that the KU after Xavier Henry will be a better KU than before.
1 July 2009
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7texdude (Anonymous) says…

I'm still glad they are coming. KU will be lethal next year. This is a good reminder to everyone that players and their families read these blogs. Carl Henry knows now to avoid reporters. They got themselves in this jam, but a lot of KU fans overreacted as well…….to what? An article written in in one of the worst papers in the country?

Perspective. Don't forget it.
1 July 2009
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lee_go_hawks (Anonymous) says…

Overall I think the Henrys are probably fine people. The Star article was interesting. While I wouldn't personally call if negative, it certainly wasn't a fluff piece. Which is what Carl expected.

Seems like the Henrys need to take a deep breath, and understand that if you put yourself in the spotlight, people are going to take shots at you.

KU most certainly will be a better team with the Henry brothers next year.
1 July 2009
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jaywalker (Anonymous) says…

“Carl Henry told Rivals.com he’d comment on the meeting and his sons’ status Wednesday”

IMO, it would be best for all concerned if Carl were to stop commenting altogether. No one really knows what's been said behind the scenes, but Carl has been the catalyst for all the speculation and ensuing soap operas.
The article by McCullough was definitely a hatchet job. Don't know if he needs more fiber in his diet or his girlfriend had just ditched him, but Brady certainly wrote like he had an axe to grind. I can understand the Henry's being upset with the result of what I'm sure was presented to them initially as a puff piece. Don't know what blogs they supposedly read, but if it was the Star comment section someone should advise them that is the bottom of the barrel and should be avoided like the plague.

Lookin' forward to watching these guys next year. Go 'Hawks!
1 July 2009
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queequeg (Anonymous) says…

These guys better produce for KU if we have to endure a continual soap opera with them. I agree with a previous poster….dad needs to keep quiet and stop talking to rivals.com
1 July 2009
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Satirical (Anonymous) says…

I am glad they are still coming to KU, but I think the headline should read “Henrys stick with KU…for now”

1 July 2009
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lawrence_citizen (Anonymous) says…

Wait a minute, if Wall And Orton are talking to him and encouraging him to go to Kentucky, isn't that a recruiting violation? Maybe the NCAA needs to investigate that!!
1 July 2009
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Number_1_Grandma (Anonymous) says…

Glad to hear the Henry's are coming to KU!

To the parents of the Henry's: Please disregard any idiotic comments made by arm chair coaches. Your sons will be pleased, if not glad they came to KU. Enjoy your time here in Lawrence.

It looks like I'll need to change my name to The Henry's Number_1_Fan!

Take care & best regards…
1 July 2009
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Rickyonealku (Anonymous) says…

Yesterday the Oklahoma City Oklahoma sports outlets reported this story as will. Now maybe CARL will STFU and let his young men (sons) enjoy beautiful Lawrence, Kansas???

YES???? or NO Mr HENRY?????
1 July 2009
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rtwngr (Anonymous) says…

It seems to me that the NCAA goes through all these gyrations and not-so-veiled threats about “fans” being over zealous and illegally “recruiting” college prospects with their blogs and websites. However, it seems perfectly fine for student athletes from one school to ask players from another school to switch their commitments.

The NCAA needs to look into this!
1 July 2009
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beobachter (Anonymous) says…

KU does not need this soap opera. Too bad Self is tolerating it. The Hawks would be a far better team without the Henry's. A hell of a lot less distractions.
1 July 2009
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calvin (Anonymous) says…

I wish these prima donas would go to Kentucky. KU doesn't need them.
1 July 2009
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edjayhawk (Anonymous) says…

“But at least for now — this saga has changed repeatedly — the Henrys remain KU-bound.”

That doesn't sound too convincing. So in other words still don't count on it? Can Coach get it in writing that they are still coming here?
1 July 2009
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Gootsie (Anonymous) says…

Self will honor his word just as we want the Henrys to do. I think it will be an interesting year - let's don't forget our guys who are already here and give them their proper attention. the Henrys will be a one and done, so let them come in, play, and give us a good year. Just don't let them overshadow our ones already here. And it's up to us fans to be sure they are given their due!!!

1 July 2009
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julz (Anonymous) says…

How about a link to the Star article?
1 July 2009
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Made_in_China (Paul R. Getto) says…

I don't like the “one and done” put in place to prevent high school students from entering the draft. As an educator, I'd make the rule read: “You can enter the NBA draft if you actually earn a degree in 4-5 years. If you don't, play in Europe or go get a real job.”
1 July 2009
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jaywalker (Anonymous) says…

julz,

Just go to kansascity.com. Article is in sports section, just scroll down to headline something along the lines of “Henry brothers goal is the pro's”.
1 July 2009
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Easy_Does_It (Anonymous) says…

We are so sorry Carl! All those bad things we might have said - it was just the booze talking. We love those kids of yours and you!

Dear World Company,

Let's get Carl a weekly talk show which could be on right before The Bill Self Show. Carl could talk about how his kids played and how they would have played better if they had gotten the ball more, stuff like that. Would make for good TV.
1 July 2009
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Gootsie (Anonymous) says…

These guys are not Rhodes Scholars. They will be struggling to keep their grades up enough to play. But they can make millions in sports. I believe it is a legitimate profession and I'm just sorry that they have to waste a spot in college for a year on their scholarship that a player who really wants to get a degree could have used. I would not want them to have to earn a degree first. But I am a sports fan and feels sports are a real job.
1 July 2009
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just_another_bozo_on_this_bus (Anonymous) says…

“You can enter the NBA draft if you actually earn a degree in 4-5 years. If you don't, play in Europe or go get a real job.”

I have to disagree with this statement. Would you say the same thing to kid wanting to become a professional auto mechanic or carpenter? While I'm sure even those kids would benefit from a college education, it's certainly not necessary for their chosen profession. And neither is a college education necessary for someone wanting to be a professional basketball player.
1 July 2009
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jaywalker (Anonymous) says…

http://www.kansascity.com/159/story/1…

There ya go, julz
1 July 2009
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The_Original_Bob (Anonymous) says…

I'm with Bozo. Henry is going to make many times more money than any of us will in our lifetimes with his first contract. Whether or not he sat through Western Civ. 101 for a semester is meaningless for his professional aspirations.

1 July 2009
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Gootsie (Anonymous) says…

I've had this argument with so many academia people. They all think you have to have a college degree to be a success. I disagree with that when it comes to sports or as bozo said, mechanics, etc.

Here come da tomatoes!!
1 July 2009
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just_another_bozo_on_this_bus (Anonymous) says…

There is one main reason for the one-and-done rule. For every Kobe or LeBron that got drafted out of high school, there were probably ten that should have worked on their game at a lower level first. So since the NBA depends on colleges to be their “minor leagues,” making the kids wait a year was good for both the NBA and the NCAA. But not necessarily the kids, and the Henry soap opera is a prime example of what's wrong with it.

A more honest approach would be to set up a league, possibly affiliated with the NBA's developmental league, that would allow players like Henry to get paid while playing their one-and-done year there. While there, they could attend classes that would actually do them some good— like how to manage their money, how to deal with the news media, and how to deal with all the likely hangers-on, whether it be agents, drug dealers or girlfriends.
1 July 2009
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dlkrm (Anonymous) says…

I really hope these self-absorbed teens choose to go elsewhere. And what's with the dad? What a guy.
1 July 2009
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BABBOY (Anonymous) says…

Gilchrist — If you ever had gone to a KU game and saw first hand how rabid the fans are, you would realize that you just lost a 100 dollars. I can name most of the starting lines up back to 1980 and I do not even have tickets to the games and did not go to KU. This recruitment of Henry turned into a soap opera. The die hards will remember Henry even if he does not come to KU and you have made a real uninformed statement about this situation.
1 July 2009
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KansasVoter (Anonymous) says…

These guys are nothing but trouble. KU doesn't need them. If they end up coming here, I guarantee that they'll break all kinds of NCAA rules that the University will have to pay for while they're in the NBA. Let 'em go to Kentucky. Their coach doesn't mind having a team full of cheaters.
1 July 2009
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riverat (Joe Hyde) says…

Thanks for the KC Star link, Jaywalker. And thanks to the Journal-World for allowing link postings in this comment section.

I read the Star's article and, sorry folks, I didn't see anything in it that was offensive or divisive. Well okay, sure, it would be great if Henry sons C.J. and Xavier were in town right now attending summer school classes: that would give us local fans a chance to see them in action before the season, and make it easier for them to be interviewed more frequently by J-W sportswriters.

Seems to me the best thing is for KU fans to take a deep breath and trust coach Self to handle the Henry brothers' transition to college ball however he sees fit to do it. This isn't the first time he's communicated over an extended period of time with highly involved, highly dedicated parents of extremely talented young athletes.
1 July 2009
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defenestrator (Anonymous) says…

KU—Home of the Calipari Rejects!
Morris twins and the Henry bros. I just hope the Henry's are less aggravating than the Morris'.
1 July 2009
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jaywalker (Anonymous) says…

“I guarantee that they'll break all kinds of NCAA rules that the University will have to pay for while they're in the NBA. Let 'em go to Kentucky. Their coach doesn't mind having a team full of cheaters”

KV, once again proving a mind's a terrible thing to waste. You'll 'guarantee' it, huh? Even though neither has run afoul of the law and were brought up by alums of the U and the program who would never allow that to happen? And you go further to imply they're 'cheaters'? With no evidence of such whatsoever? Yup, you're a real gem. Time for your gwammy cwacka and a wittle nappy nap, punkin.

“Which is going to be higher, their points per game, or their arrest totals?”

Please list their arrests so far or your 'rationale' behind such a baseless comment.

You guys are better suited to post on the Star's site. Your type o' peeps.

1 July 2009
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helter_skelter (Anonymous) says…

I have a feeling this is going to be nothing but trouble. Hopefully the Henry kids will get a bit of distance from their father and maybe learn to grow a bit thicker skin.
If these princesses come to KU with their daddy's attitude, we're going to be in a world of hurt. I could see this becoming a very divisive issue between team members.
1 July 2009
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Jaminrawk (Anonymous) says…

People need to chill out. Let it go. They are coming here and they are going to immediately improve this team. Do yourself a favor and watch the McDonalds All-American game and look at how unselfish Xavier was compared to Stephenson. Xavier was playing a team game while all of the other guys were playing And-1 basketball.
1 July 2009
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jaywalker (Anonymous) says…

Please refrain from using the possesive “our” when posting something that moronic.
1 July 2009
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BigAl (Anonymous) says…

I agree with jaywalker. To my knowledge, these young men have never been involved with breaking the law in any manner. They've not been in any sort of a scandal. The only thing they appear guilty of is having a dad that likes to talk. Both young men have said that they are coming to KU since Calipari left Memphis. To my knowledge, they have never waivered from that. Just last night, Xavier said again that he was coming to KU.

How in the world does this compare to jail time? Or breaking any laws? How does the Morris Twins or the Henry's relate to being “Calipari's rejects”? These fellas picked KU, Calipari didn't “reject” them. In fact, he wanted them.
1 July 2009
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Martini_Boy (Anonymous) says…

I said it the day before. It'll be over fast… Enjoy the ride. Now it's over. Get Off the Damn Ride and move on through the rest of the park. Oh ya, and while you're at it, let Bill Self take care of things. It's plain to see there's a lot of idiots here that think they know more than Bill Self. That is the most laughable thing I can imagine.

Listen up dopes, it's not your team, you have no say, shut up, enjoy next years games from your living room tv and as KU is in another March to the Madness try to forget your asinine comments these last two days…..
1 July 2009
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BigAl (Anonymous) says…

roger_gilchrist.. Can you let the rest of us in on when the Henry's boys were ever in jail? Or even been arrested? How about just a parking violation? Anything??????
1 July 2009
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mightyquin (Anonymous) says…

I just read the article and the only thing in it that makes them look bad is what Carl and Zah-vee-ay were saying. If they don't want to be perceived in a negative way or look bad they should probably stop talking to reporters. Someone posted before when you are in the spotlight people will take shots at you. You either get a thick skin and ignore them or you get out of the spotlight. They should know the best way to shut people up is to prove themselves on the court.
1 July 2009
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alm77 (Anonymous) says…

Nicely put Big Al. These kids *may* have entitlement issues, but there is no evidence that they are criminals. Not only that, but apparently they've got a good game. As long as they are team players (and Coach usually does a great job of encouraging that) I'm happy to have them here.

1 July 2009
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jaywalker (Anonymous) says…

mighty,

How one reads into an article is definitely subjective. But the access that reporter was given strongly suggests the family was approached and convinced the angle would be a softball puff piece. I agree that their own comments lent to the poor perception, but McCullough had a lot to do with all of that. I can guarantee he never told them he was writing an expose' that would paint the boys as spoiled prima donna's, Carl as a cocky motor-mouth, and the family as a case study on how one-and-done's view college.

I reckon the family is a lot wiser for this experience and will temper further contact with the news media. But first thing I thought when I read that piece was how badly it would be perceived. Can't blame them for taking offense.
1 July 2009
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red_devil (Anonymous) says…

For you idiots talking about these guys getting arrested maybe you should become more informed than reading this article and making judgments. You are embarrassing yourselves and don't even know it. These aren't bad guys.
1 July 2009
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jayhawks71 (Anonymous) says…

And I get tired of comments of this variety… “I've had this argument with so many academia people. They all think you have to have a college degree to be a success.”

You are right, a college degree only increases the probability of being a “success” given some indexes of success. However, don't go to college then if you are planning on going for a semester. That is all that a one and done has to do to stay eligible all year, right? I hear the cry that the NBA makes them go to college. No, it doesn't! As someone posted previously (or as Carl Henry was quoted), they can go to another country and play right out of high school. So, in conclusion, I don't want to see the circus surrounding one-and-dones going through a semester, whining about how they hate school and “don't want to go to class.” Then don't! You are not forced to go to college.
1 July 2009
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slowplay (Anonymous) says…

Martini_Boy (Anonymous) says:
“Listen up dopes, it's not your team, you have no say, shut up, enjoy next years games from your living room tv and as KU is in another March to the Madness try to forget your asinine comments these last two days…..”

M-boy, you are an idiot. KU is OUR team. Without the fans support and money the JayHawks would not exist as we know it. If the Henrys want the notoriety, prestige, coaching and earning potential that KU basketball will provide, they better get used to living in a fishbowl. It's not going to be any easier in the NBA.
1 July 2009
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Jaminrawk (Anonymous) says…

Who cares? Xavier will be the best swingman in the Big XII the minute he steps onto the court. I truly believe that. Imagine how hard it is going to be to defend this lineup:

PG - Collins
SG - Taylor
C - Aldrich
SF - X. Henry
PF - Ma. Morris

That is going to be a tall order. Can't wait for Late Night.
1 July 2009
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jhawks1510 (Anonymous) says…

I heard a good idea at one point. If a kid wants to skip college and go straight to the pros, that's fine, but if he does come, he's got to play three years. Of course, that's going to have be a rule put in by the NBA, because there's no way the NCAA could enforce it. BTW, I like the acronym “STFU”. I assume that means, “Start talking funny underwear?”
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ravenjayhawk (Anonymous) says…

These guys are trouble. They have misguided thoughts that they are bigger than Kansas basketball. They aren't and never will be. I cannot believe that coach Self & the other players do not think that these two are nut-jobs. If they do come I hope everyone puts unduly pressure on them to perform, because they think they are the next coming
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monkeyspunk (Anonymous) says…

It doesn't seem as though Carl understands the dynamics of Kansas City sports journalists. Kansas City doesn't have any team, college or pro, that are worth reporting positively on, so they have to be super critical of neighboring sporting institutions to keep people interested, because such stories will attract both sides of the MU-KU fences.

Anti-KU people are extra nasty because the schools that they represent are barely able to put up an effort that would constitute the use of the word “rivalry”. It all makes for a strange atmosphere of spite and jealousy. Cough *KSU and MU*.

If the Henry Bros. give what is perceived as their best effort and stay out of trouble while they are here, they will be loved by crimson and blue throughout the state and be hated by purple and yellow wearing felines to our west and east.

Also, NBA players take much more heat than college players do. Carl should get used to this warm-up period.

1 July 2009
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beawolf (Anonymous) says…

Jaminrawk,

Starting line-ups do not win championships. The bench is equally as important, if not more. That said, Self will have an excellent and experienced group to sub with. By far the most talented he has ever had. Expectations are high. I see a deep run into the NCAA tournament, if not the National Championship. There are too many variables to guarantee it, but it's going to be interesting.
1 July 2009
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jaywalker (Anonymous) says…

“And how do you know this Mr. Devil? Did you grow up with them, teach them, know their parents? Were you their mentor?”

Soooo……you go the other route? You didn't grow up with them, blah blah blah, yet have no problem spewing they'll be the bane of the program and are basically criminals?!

To all the sane posters: I could be wrong, but I don't believe I've ever seen one gilchrist post without the other, and they're always on the same string. It's also oddly coincidental their user names are exactly the same with the inclusion of the underscore, excepting first names. I'm guessin' this is a singular troll, folks, and his only goal is to roil the waters.
1 July 2009
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beawolf (Anonymous) says…

roger_gilchrist (Anonymous) says…

“Why would you call me a troll? I don't live under a bridge. We each have our opinions”…

An opinion is usually an assumption based on facts that may predict a probable outcome. Yours is based on idiocy.
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bad_dog (Anonymous) says…

Hmm, jaywalker, regarding your 3:13 post, note both _gilchrist accounts were created April 20, 2009.

Maybe it's actually the Henry boys laughing it up “under a bridge” somewhere down in Oklahoma.

Nah, probably just a coincidence…
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Martini_Boy (Anonymous) says…

Slowplay, change the name to slowbrain, slowmind, or just slow. No you root for KU, but have No Say, No Impact, No Decision Making, No Authority of any kind. Your an idiot that likes to hear yourself talk, Thump your chest, and ACT as if you're a relevant factor on anything KU.

Like the Bully that shows up at a playground looking for kids 3 and 4 years younger to yell at and boss around.

LOOSer

I'll watch every KU sporting event I can next year and cheer as loud or louder than any one else for the team wearing Crimson and Blue. I also be laughing as I think about how pathetic your must be that you think you should be helping to decide who plays on these teams. I guess our coaches should get your cell number so they can hear the voice of our fans from you… yuk yuk yuk
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Satirical (Anonymous) says…

donald and roger_gilchrist…

Count me in for the Eldridge. I'll meet both of you(r) (personalities) there. Just name the time!
1 July 2009
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Stebbins (Anonymous) says…

Coach Self just gained more respect in my eyes. He's handled this public situation with grace.
1 July 2009
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Satirical (Anonymous) says…

I think I should also create two LJWorld usernames. That way I could have a decent argument once in a while. You know, a discussion with someone who backs up their claims with logic or facts. Thanks for the inspiration Gilchrist!

1 July 2009
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Satirical (Anonymous) says…

donald_gilchrist…
“I thought you already had about 5 here.”

Which ones do you think are my alter-ego? Only 5?
1 July 2009
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jaywalker (Anonymous) says…

Aha! Thanks for the investigation, bad_dog!
The plot thins…

roger..er….donald…..er…whatever: First of all, what beawolf said.
Second, it's beyond cheesy and not just a little creepy to pose as two brothers on a comment section. And all your posts' sole purpose seems to be to incite or inflame.

Creepier still is this is now the second or third time I've seen you (two) pretend to coordinate your evening drinking plans on one of these strings. Who does that? Particularly 'brothers' who'd be in touch so many other ways rather than rolling the dice the 'other' is gonna log on to the same string again?

All things considered, 'troll' seems spot on.
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persevering_gal (Anonymous) says…

I just wish people would understand that if anyone is a Jayhawk, we will appreciate them very much - if the players put in the effort. Jayhawks fans are some of the most loyal fans in the nation with a rich tradition. The reason for the commotion is due to the fact that a decision in a final destination has been altered several times. Hopefully, this is the last announcement we will read about the Henry Brothers coming to KU. Either way, I think KU will do great this season. If the Henry's come, I know it will give the Morris Twins a bit of an adrenaline rush to step up their game to compete for starting positions.
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jaywalker (Anonymous) says…

Satirical,

Aren't he clever?! But now I'm torn between utter amusement at the furtherance of the charade or sincere concern for someone's mental well-being. These are not the machinations of a healthy mind.
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mosshawk (Anonymous) says…

oh leave the kids alone, when the X-MAN tattoos mizzou with 40+ all of us die-hard KU fans will have forgotten all about this stuff. They are just young kids and probably can hardly decide what cereal to eat in the morning let alone what college to attend remember, Larry Legend left the program under rocky terms and so did Roy but time, (and 3pointers from supermario) heals all wounds
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cg1029 (Anonymous) says…

“Please remember that your questioning the integrity of an 18 year old kid, and while he MAY have more life experience then other 18 year old kids from his travel in basketball he is still a kid. I know that choosing a college was the hardest decision that I made at that point in my life and I did not have the added pressure of D1 sports in the mix. It is his choice and he is alowed to make it based on what is best for him.
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cg1029 (Anonymous) says…

Per Espn.com
Self traveled to Oklahoma City with assistants Danny Manning and Joe Dooley. The coach said it didn't take long to sort things out.

“I got down there and they were saying, 'What are you guys doing here?' so it was not as big a deal with the boys as the parents,” Self said. “After we talked about it and got it to kind of a resolution, which really didn't take much, they were fine. They never gave me any indication they weren't coming to Kansas.”
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bad_dog (Anonymous) says…

“Is it the usual Tuesday?”_gilchrist

Other than it's Wednesday isn't it? Odd comment coming from one bro to another regarding a customary event. Unless Wednesday is your usual Tuesday, I guess.

Whatever, _gilchrist(s)

Have a good Tuesday evening…

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Satirical (Anonymous) says…

jaywalker…
“These are not the machinations of a healthy mind.”

Never try to hustle a hustler and never try to out crazy a crazy man.
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cooonrod (Anonymous) says…

Cal will have UK on probation very soon. someone call NCAA … they say fans can not blog encouraging players to jump ship and come to thier favorite school??? obvious violation and cal knows it to have players recruiting other verbal commited players. Cal is used car salesman who will not admit his dirty ways… at least Tarkanian UNLV or Huggins were not affraid to admit and take on NCAA . quote from Jerry Tark ” I recruit JUCO players, thier cars are already paid for” Cal never leaves a program with NCAA looking. Glad he will never coach KU
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cooonrod (Anonymous) says…

UK now our most hated rival , even over ole Mizzou…. lets play!
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7texdude (Anonymous) says…

I got down there and they were saying, 'What are you guys doing here?' so it was not as big a deal with the boys as the parents,” Self said. “After we talked about it and got it to kind of a resolution, which really didn't take much, they were fine. They never gave me any indication they weren't coming to Kansas.”
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I trust coach Self. Maybe not any of the Henrys, but they are not the coach. Believe in coach Self and it will work out or it will be a 1-year problem and he'll take care of it. This was a long time ago, but he had a simple rule going back to his time at ORU: go to class or get off the team. The kids I knew skipped class and they were booted off the team. Why would he change that now? He is golden now with that national title we won.

I am amazed at this fuss over an article in the KC Star, which is the worst newspaper in the country. Yes, there were a lot of ugly comments and it looks bad……now. When the Henrys show up for Self's boot camp, it will be back to business for everyone.

Relax everyone. The MU and KSU trolls are trying to stir it up because they have nothing else to do.
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UFC_FAN (Anonymous) says…

Anything for a title it appears. Big mistake for ku. DRAMA.
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catintn (Anonymous) says…

Seriously, I hope the “drama family” stays in Kansas- it will help UK more with him on KU roster. There is NO WAY the Jayhawks are going to win a NC with that kid in the lineup. He is too selfish and plays for the name on the back of the jersey. He cant get enough shots in a one-on-one matchup let alone on a talented KU team- you guys are loaded!!!!!! Do you think(honestly) that hes not gonna cause problems with your chemistry? Just look at the drama he has already caused- instead of most of the media talking about how great you guys are gonna be they are talking about a late night rendevouz trying to even get them on campus. I thought this problem had been resolved 2 months ago- I wish you guys the best of luck cause I think KU is one of the classier programs with an even classier fan base for the most part but Im tickled that he stayed in Lawrence- good luck!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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beachbumin (Anonymous) says…

Henry's, please come to K.U, we are sorry if anybody said something to hurt your feelings. We need you, K.U will be nothing without you, we have no tradition here and need you to start it, please put us on the map so people will know who we are, make us a basketball school please!!! We promise to never say anything bad about you again, please come here, and bring dad, we will make a special place on the bench for him and give him his own weekly radio show where he can continue to guide your careers, please come here, please, we need you!
2 July 2009
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TopJayhawk (Anonymous) says…

You also have to remember that a lot of the KU type handles on the KC blogs are MU fans that are so ate up they spend their time posing as KU fans and saying typically stupid things.

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TopJayhawk (Anonymous) says…

I'm guessing the “Gilchrist brothers” are some MU fans living in a rusty trailor out in the sticks somewhwere.
They probably just had a few extra minutes until their Mom gets back from the drugstore with enough Effedrin to start their next batch.
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TopJayhawk (Anonymous) says…

That is an old tactic on the Stars' blogs.
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catintn (Anonymous) says…

“Do you think(honestly) that hes not gonna cause problems with your chemistry?”….

Do you honestly think Self would put his team in that situation? I'm sure he and his staff spent about a 1,000 more hours than any of us looking at his skills, personality AND family and what impact those will have on the team. I'm pretty sure he has already told the kid it's “my way or the bench”. Nor do I believe Collins and Aldrich are going to let Henry be disruptive. Henry is going to find out (if he doesn't know already) that he needs KU more than KU needs him.

Henry is not a guaranteed top 15 pick next year. Check out some of the 2010 draft projections. Some have him in the second round, some around 20 - 25.
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BigPrune (Anonymous) says…

I wonder if the NCAA would allow MTV to do a reality series about these guys?
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logicsound09 (Anonymous) says…

catintn,

Speaking of drama…allow me to introduce you to your new coach John Calipari.

I think you're going to find that this mini-firestorm surrounding the Henry's is much ado about nothing.
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jaywalker (Anonymous) says…

I agree, logicsound. Never been a Calipari fan of any sort. He seems more like a greasy 'super agent' rather than a coach.
And after the facts came out yesterday, this whole ordeal seems to have originated from Carl's lap, not the boy's.
Coach Self has had and will always have a firm grip on his program. Nothing to see here 'cept some fan-freakin-tastic b-ball! Gotta temper the enthusiasm, Texas is gonna be right there with us. But man oh man, it's gonna be fun!
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beawolf (Anonymous) says…

jaywalker,
Don't forget Oklahoma. That said, I don't see anyone coming close to the experience and depth of KU in the Big 12. Michigan State and Syracuse, however, may be stumbling blocks in the NCAA tourney.
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jaywalker (Anonymous) says…

beawolf,

I figure OU will always be there with Capel, but their front court has been decimated. Warren will be a national name though.