Archive for Tuesday, February 10, 2009

Fraternity reports members’ tires slashed

Lawrence police are investigating an act of vandalism targeting members of a KU fraternity.

February 10, 2009


Lawrence police are investigating an act of vandalism targeting members of a Kansas University fraternity.

Members of Sigma Alpha Epsilon said that between 4:45 a.m. and 7 a.m. Sunday, someone slashed tires on nearly 25 vehicles parked in the fraternity’s parking lot at 1301 West Campus Road.

“This is a deliberate attack toward our organization, and we’re just trying to get past it,” fraternity President Shane Glenn said.

Glenn said some of the vehicles had multiple tires slashed; at least 33 tires were damaged.

The vandalism has the fraternity considering increasing security measures and possibly adding video cameras or extra lighting.

Lawrence police officers are still searching for suspects in the case.

“Obviously there’s a lot of people who’d like them to get caught,” KU sophomore and Sigma Alpha Epsilon member Jonathan Nehring said. “We do want justice to be served on who did this.”


igby 9 years, 3 months ago

Frats are nothing more than upper class gangs of thugs who think their better than everyone they see. Their involved in campus crime and drug traffic and theft, lots of theft. They pick out people they choose to target and harass like new boy friends of member's ex-girlfriends. I would like to see more of their crimes revealed to the public, however, LPD in the past has turn a blind eye too their mischief dealings because their families all have money and many are the son's of federal judges and politicians and wealthy businessmen in America, and in other third world places like Chicago and other major cities. Lol.Make them pay for their cost to society!They kick over city trash cans in the parks and tear limbs from trees as they walk by and think they rule the world because their daddy is some rich thief who screwed everyone to get their wealth, yep!, everyone they every did business with; they worked real hard too screw them out of their last dime. They are proud of their craft and practice of thief and raise their walking POS children to be just like them.They do damage to the street signs in Lawrence, they collect street signs by tearing them down in their drunken rage while walking through the Oread district at night in groups of 6 or eight. They drag them back to their man-caves and hang them on the walls like trophies. They scream and curse all or anyone who they look down on and are the bottom of human specimens of POS.Lol.

HighScore 9 years, 3 months ago

igby,List one thing that a fraternity member, or members do that a normal college student doesn't do?Hassassing ex-girlfriends, damaging property, screaming and cursing; these are things that anyone can and has done. They are by no means exclusive to greek life.Sure, these may be characteristics of certain fraternities and fraternity members but there are likely far more respectful and honorable fraternity members on the KU campus. If an independant or group of independent students participate in an activity that you disagree with or find as a characteristic of a dishonorable person, do you write off anyone that is not in the greek system and clump them all together?I find it laughable that fraternity members are all thought of as rich trust-fund babies. Monthly fees for most fraternities are in-line with monthly dorm-fees with meal plans. People look to fraternities as an alternative to living in the dorms.

Chris Ogle 9 years, 3 months ago

Where is CSI when you need them. Check that tire for DNA.

KU_Dude 9 years, 3 months ago

Fraternities = paying $$$ to have friends

HighScore 9 years, 3 months ago

It is hard to argue with KU_Dude. When you join a fraternity you join because you feel that you are joining like-minded individuals that you think you will get along with, individuals that you hope will become your friends. Yes you pay money to live in a fraternity or sorority, much like you pay the University to live in a dorm.I must ask this, for those of you that chose to live in a dorm, why did you chose that specific dorm? In talking to several students their answers varied, but in most situations they stated that they heard good things about a specific dorm and felt that they would fit in and have a good time there, that they would find freindships there that woudl last a lifetime.I am not saying that dorm life and greek life are the same, but there is comparison that can be drawn. You pay to live in dorm, you pay to live in a fraternity, you make freinds where you live.

KU_Dude 9 years, 3 months ago

Fraternities = paying more $$$ than dorms for friendsFraternities = wearing the same clothes as everyone else

John Hamm 9 years, 3 months ago

Probably some of the neighbors these guys have infuriated.Or Topekans.....

Chris Ogle 9 years, 3 months ago

Frat boy calls Dad.. " hey dad, I have a flat tire. Ok to use your credit card for the repair. Thanks, Dad"$500.00 later Dad calls frat boy.

zettapixel 9 years, 3 months ago

Clues left behind include: khaki shorts, baseball cap, and shell necklace.

feeble 9 years, 3 months ago

or a rival frat...I had some lab partners in college who were in the Greek system. The level of animosity between some houses, while polite in public, was pretty intense behind closed doors.

A_J_Hawk 9 years, 3 months ago

When these vandals arrived they must have realized they had mistakenly brought knives instead of the usual toilet paper. They were then just too lazy to go home and get the toilet paper so the tires were just convenient.Hey. Mistakes happen.

kumatt 9 years, 3 months ago

Wow there truly are numerous uneducated and truly ignorant posters on this site. How many of you actually went to college? How many of you actually know how fraternities and sororities function? What their mission statements state? How much money they raise for charities or how much time the members spend doing charity work? Apparently NONE of you that have posted so far. The level of ignorance is astonishing. "There is a principle which is a bar against all information, which is proof against all arguments and which cannot fail to keep a man in everlasting ignorance - that principle is contempt prior to investigation." - Herbert Spencer

1029 9 years, 3 months ago

I once worked at a store that sold automotive batteries. One day, a group of greek kids came in and bought a battery (I had to read the book for them and show them which one they needed), then one called dad in JoCo to see if he would come out and put it in. When dad didn't answer, they started whining about how their whole Saturday was going to be ruined. Another one tried to call someone (probably dad I assumed), but also got no answer. Since it looked like they were just going to loiter around in the store, I tried telling them how easy it was to change a battery. They ended up paying me ten bucks to go outside and put it in.

cthulhu_4_president 9 years, 3 months ago

kumatt:I've been to college. I've seen how they function. I've walked past the houses on West campus road in the middle of the day where the beer cans on the lawn are briefly interrupted with patches of grass (dry campus? Only for some, evidentally). I've seen firsthand how they are basically an organized crime syndacite on campus, dealing with any matter of illicit substances and running cheating rings (keeping files on specific teachers and obtaining copies of their tests). I've seen the resources that they have to get other people to do their work for them, including payment for papers and other work.But I have also read their mission statements, and they are good at making t-shirts and polishing their public image with some charity work. Good for them.Whether instances of these activities is higher in Greek life than the general student body is unknown, but in the Greek life, they are givin tacit (maybe even explicit) approval for these activities, both by their internal beurocracy, and the University. Something that does not happen in the dorms, where if the right person hears a bottle clink from outside your room, you could find yourself looking for a new home.

jonas_opines 9 years, 3 months ago

Biggunz: "On another note, Igby you really don't like anything do you?"Fixed that for you.

woodenfleaeater 9 years, 3 months ago

I would blame Flounder, Bluto, Otter and the rest of the Delta Tau Chi fraternity.

kumatt 9 years, 3 months ago

cthulhu_4_president - That's quite a statement. You may have mistaken copies of old tests and study files kept at some fraternities for "cheating rings". I can only speak to personal experience with ONE fraternity - we had files of old tests, study guides and notes accumulated from fraternity brothers to assist others in studying. However, as you are probably aware, professors change the tests and sometimes even give out different versions of tests each semester, so having copies of old tests can only assist in helping to study what MIGHT be on future tests. Yes, brothers help brothers, much like in sororities where sisters help sisters. Or in other groups where members help members. If you have evidence of a more damning nature, I would encourage you to share that with the Interfraternity Council at KU - the organization tasked with overview of the fraternities and sororities on campus. It has been many years since I was a student on the KU campus, so cannot speak to what happens right now. I lived in a fraternity for one year, and lived in a dorm on campus one year. Back then the level of drinking and partying was fairly equal in both situations. Given that there were several hundred residents in the dorm versus 50 to 60 fraternity brothers at the house, the likelihood of being caught and turned in were understandably higher at the dorm. However, in my personal experience, I do not remember one instance of anyone being turned in and subsequently having to find a new home due to anyone hearing a bottle clink.As to your assertion of payment for papers and other work, you might be confusing KU with MU - where one rather infamous former female student was busted for paying for papers and had her name removed from a building on campus?At any rate, most of the comments on this string ring with an air of unresolved, simmering hurt feelings of those who were not invited to pledge the fraternity of their choice.

oxandale 9 years, 3 months ago

KU Dude - Living in a dorm = paying for you friends

KU_Dude 9 years, 3 months ago

oxandale (Anonymous) says… KU Dude - Living in a dorm = paying for you friends---------------I'd be willing to bet that more people join frats for the social aspect than people that choose to live in dorm do.

lovenhaight 9 years, 3 months ago

The difference between paying to live in a dorm and paying to live in a greek house is that you don't have to keep paying for your dorm after graduation. If you aren't paying alumni dues, you aren't considered a member anymore, are you? Maybe kumatt's frat doesn't function that way, but both of my parents were in the greek system and both of their orgs do.I'm really tired of hearing frat brats and sorority girls complaining about non-greeks who don't give them enough credit or who think they are all rich kids. If you didn't want to feel elite you wouldn't have joined a greek org, you would have joined Amnesty International or any one of the other orgs on campus who are TOTALLY devoted to helping other people. And for all the defending of your wonderful greek brothers and sisters, you aren't an innocent bunch in the war between the fratties and the normal people. GDIs, right? You think its negative to be called an independent. Cute. The cheating rings? Yeah, they exist. I know firsthand of a group who got busted by KU for it.

lovenhaight 9 years, 3 months ago

Just an afterthought...but here's where the greek living gets even more separated from the dorm dwellers. You aren't expected to buy gifts for people who have lived in the dorm longer than you. You don't have to purchase specific outfits for specific occasions sanctioned by your dorm. You don't have to attend events sponsored by your dorm. Oh, and financial aid covers dorm costs. Does it cover living in a frat or sorority house?

newshound25 9 years, 3 months ago

I am continually amazed at the animosity against people in fraternities and sororities. Many members of these organizations contribute a great deal to KU & to the community. Also, they all don't come from wealthy homes. I know a great many who are working their way through college and have received scholarships through these organizations. Yes, it's not for everyone...but it doesn't mean there aren't good people in the Greek system.

JoRight 9 years, 3 months ago

flamingdragon,The ljworld really went flat with this story.Anyways, the accusations & stereotyping are pretty ridiculous. Like kumatt, I can only speak for the one I was in. The one I was in always encouraged grades beyond anything else, community service & overall respect for one another. Drugs were never allowed in / near the premise & if you were caught, you were indeed kicked out. Prior tests / notes were filed away for study material. . .I've also seen the same sorts of filing happen in the scholarship halls as well.In the end, for the most part, fraternities / sororities are good to have on campus. They give kids different options as far as living goes (the one I lived at was pretty much right in line with rates of the dormitories if not cheaper than some of the nicer halls) .

lovenhaight 9 years, 3 months ago

You are missing the point. Fraternities and sororities are corporations. They make money. The people who get scholarships and are working their way through college out of necessity are the minority in greek organizations. No one is saying that every single person in a greek org is a d-bag (at least I'm not saying that), but at least have the decency to admit that the allure of the greek org is the prestige that it affords you in certain circles. It wasn't a deep desire to hold 5k runs or canned food drives or donate to the Ronald McDonald house. If that was your only motivation you would just join a student organization that performed those services.

fosso 9 years, 3 months ago

Good lord!If everyone spent half as much time seeing people as... people.Vandalism sucks, no matter who the target is. The vandals are the ones who have issues. And some of the people typing inane BS here.

compmd 9 years, 3 months ago

The torch and pitchfork crowd is out in full force today.

When I was in a fraternity, we had test files. Having example problems is helpful. If a professor reuses questions, that's his problem. If you don't know people who are organized enough to develop test files, that's your problem, don't complain others shouldn't.

There were some truly sick and terrible things that other houses would do. In recent memory, I can think of two fraternities who were kicked out of KU for good reason. They deserved it.

Most of the people here are really good at pontificating about subjects they are quite clueless in. They base their decisions on pop culture, movies, and stereotypes. Somehow in their mind they make this fiction fact and attempt to spread their truth.

But nobody is going to say, "oh hey, maybe I should think before I talk" because this is Lawrence, where everyone is right, and reason and logic are out the window.

Its a proud day for the what used to be a bastion of acceptance and thoughtfulness we call Lawrence.

Its days like today when I'm not proud to be a Lawrencian. I loathe being included in a group that includes most of the people posting on this article

1wetwilly 9 years, 3 months ago

Most of the thieving Wall Street bankers, dishonest CEO's and corrupt politicians are former frat-boys. See all the good they do.

Commenting has been disabled for this item.