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The end of an era: Mangino out at Kansas

Kansas head coach Mark Mangino walks off the field following the Jayhawks' 41-39 loss to Missouri, Saturday, Nov. 28, 2009 at Arrowhead Stadium.

Kansas head coach Mark Mangino walks off the field following the Jayhawks' 41-39 loss to Missouri, Saturday, Nov. 28, 2009 at Arrowhead Stadium.

December 3, 2009, 6:36 p.m. Updated December 4, 2009, 12:00 a.m.


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For a man known largely for his intensity and fire, Kansas University football coach Mark Mangino’s departure proved reasonably subtle.

With his days as the program’s leader clearly numbered, the embattled eighth-year coach resigned Thursday — less than three weeks after KU athletic director Lew Perkins, prompted by the allegations of a current player, launched an internal investigation into the coach’s treatment of players.

On a day rife with rumors and speculation — including false reports of a 4 p.m. KU news conference — the actual announcement proved rather anticlimactic in nature.

Perkins held a 6:30 p.m. meeting with players and assistant coaches Thursday at the Anderson Family Football Complex to inform them of Mangino’s decision to step down — though, by that point, news of the coach’s departure had already made the rounds through cyberspace.

Around 6:40, the university issued a release in which it indicated the coach and the university had reached an agreement on a buyout that would pay Mangino an undisclosed portion of the roughly $6.6 million he was set to make through 2012. According to the contract, Mangino would have been owed all of his remaining money if he were fired without cause, though he would receive nothing if he were fired with cause.

As part of the agreement, the details of the settlement and the investigation will remain confidential.

Speaking briefly with the media Thursday night, Perkins praised the program’s progress under Mangino — who finishes with a 50-48 career record at KU, two wins shy of A.R. Kennedy’s school record for victories — but balked at the notion that the coach had been pushed out by the university’s administration.

“I didn’t make a change,” Perkins said. “Coach resigned.”

Asked whether Mangino was given the option to stay, however, Perkins declined comment.

Thursday’s news marked the end of an arduous two-and-a-half-week stretch in which numerous players spoke out against the coach’s aggressive approach.

As allegations of Mangino’s mistreatment surfaced and losses piled up (the Jayhawks dropped their final seven games this season after starting 5-0), there was a strong sense that Mangino’s tenure in Lawrence had run its course. And as they exited the football complex Thursday night, players feigned no surprise at the news they’d just received.

“We kind of saw it coming,” junior defensive end Jake Laptad said.

For the most part, players declined to discuss the specifics of their experiences playing under Mangino, but many expressed relief that the investigation — which began following the team’s Nov. 14 loss to Nebraska — had reached a conclusion.

“Now, instead of sitting around and waiting and wondering what’s going to happen, we can take the steps necessary to rebound from the situation,” said defensive back Justin Thornton, an outgoing senior. “You can’t look at it as a negative thing. Change is inevitable. It’s just one of those things in life. It’s time for this program to move on.”

Current defensive coordinator Clint Bowen, receivers coach David Beaty and co-defensive coordinator/linebackers coach Bill Miller will share interim head coaching duties.

A number of former players, however, didn’t refrain from airing their concerns of verbal and physical abuse, the most recent of which involved photos provided to the Journal-World that depicted hand injuries sustained by former defensive lineman Cory Kipp after Mangino allegedly ordered the player to bear-crawl across an AstroTurf field in the summer of 2003.

The allegations were the latest in a career that was sprinkled with controversy.

During his first season in Lawrence, Mangino publicly apologized following an incident in which he was seen yelling and pointing a finger at high school officials following a Lawrence High football game in which his son, Tommy, had played quarterback.

Two years later, he made headlines for a postgame news conference in which he criticized officials for their performance in the Jayhawks’ narrow loss to Texas, and most recently, the Journal-World detailed a June 2007 incident in which the coach verbally abused a KU Parking & Transit employee who had issued the coach multiple parking tickets.

Despite the coach’s messy divorce with the university, however, it’s difficult to ignore the progress made under Mangino.

Following a rocky first year in 2002, in which Kansas finished 2-10 and 0-8 in the Big 12, the coach led the team to six or more victories in five of the next seven seasons.

The team’s most successful season under Mangino came in 2007, when — with an undersized rookie quarterback and a group of relative unknowns — the Jayhawks climbed as high as No. 2 in the national rankings before finishing 12-1 and beating Virginia Tech in the Orange Bowl. That year, Mangino was named the consensus national coach of the year and signed a contract extension the following summer that was to pay him $2.3 million annually through 2012 — making him the nation’s 13th-highest-paid coach at the time.

In 2008, Kansas finished 8-5, topping Minnesota in the Insight Bowl in a game that marked the first time in school history the program had gone to back-to-back bowl games.

As of Thursday night, Perkins said he hadn’t yet spoken with any potential replacements — “The job just became available at 5 o’clock tonight,” he said — but indicated he’d begin the search process this morning.

Much speculation has centered on Stanford’s Jim Harbaugh and Houston’s Kevin Sumlin. While at Connecticut, Perkins hired Skip Holtz and Randy Edsall, both of whom are on the national radar as promising coaching prospects. Holtz, now the East Carolina coach, is believed to be pursuing the Virginia vacancy.

What the future holds for Mangino remains less clear.

The coach wasn’t present for the meeting between Perkins and players and was unable to be reached for comment Thursday night.

In what would turn out to be his last public comments as head coach of the Kansas football team, Mangino did following last Saturday’s season-ending loss to Missouri what he’d done throughout much of the investigation: insisted that he was far from the monster he’d been made out to be by some former players.

“I’m one of the more pleasant people in college football,” he said, before making his way from the podium for the last time. “Trust me.”


Raider 8 years, 5 months ago

ESPN already broke the story, and it's JUST now making the LJW.

filapino 8 years, 5 months ago

Perkins ought to be bought out as well

Olympics 8 years, 5 months ago

Nice work, Lou. Niiiiiiiiiice work. Just make sure you get your fingerprints off the knife in Mangino's backfat.

How many MILLIONS did this decision cost because he's wasn't your pick?

Harbaugh would be a fool to take the Kansas job. A lateral move at best.

greenworld 8 years, 5 months ago

there everybody goes, now u have it? KU will now go undefeated and become a powerhouse in football>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

RockChalk4Life 8 years, 5 months ago

How is this Lou's fault? He is easily one of the best AD's in the nation.

bearded_gnome 8 years, 5 months ago

And, in other news, the price of turkey drumsticks dropped by 31% in Lawrence on the strength of the announcement.

Mike Blur 8 years, 5 months ago

Raider, KU Athletics "sources" have a history of leaking news to other media outlets before informing the J-W. It's just the KUAC's manner of showing Dolph just who is boss in this town.

jayhawkerincali 8 years, 5 months ago

Fat jokes. What a shocker. Very original, guys.

Good luck Coach, and thanks for making football exciting again at KU.

justsmile2day 8 years, 5 months ago

Thanks Coach Mangino, you are a class act, and we appreciate all of your hard work and what you have done for the University of Kansas.. God Bless You and Your Family, and All The Best..

bearded_gnome 8 years, 5 months ago

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---forklift anyone! LMAO! Google, intelligent advertising.

hey, I'll take 6.0millions of dollars not to coach KU!
tell me where to sign!

unelectable 8 years, 5 months ago

Shouldn't the caption for the picture on the left say "Former Kansas football coach Mark Mangino?"

Lene 8 years, 5 months ago

Thank you for all you've done, Coach. Good luck to you and your family.

sittinthefence 8 years, 5 months ago

Thanks Coach for all the wonderful KU football memories you helped to create for me. Shame on you Mr Perkins for giving KU athletics another black eye.

mr_right_wing 8 years, 5 months ago

Coach Mangino: I am sorry things didn't work out for you here at KU. I am sure I'm not alone in my continued concern for you as far as your health. I make this suggestion with all seriousness: get in contact with NBC, I would think they'd love to have a 'celebrity' contestant on "The Biggest Loser". Or perhaps set up something with Jenny Craig, Weight Watchers or NutriSystem, you could be an incredible testimony for those folks if they help you take off that weight. Even though you will no longer be part of the University of Kansas, we do not want the next thing we hear about you to be your obituary. Best have many can turn things around.

StirrrThePot 8 years, 5 months ago

Thank you for all you have done for KU Football, Coach Mangino. I am sorry to see you go and I will always be proud of what you and your players have done during your 8 years here. Best wishes to you and your family, thanks for being a part of ours for a little while.

Bill Klein 8 years, 5 months ago

Look for Nolan Cromwell at A&M to be a candidate to come home to his alma mater.

Larry 8 years, 5 months ago

Marty Shottenheimer would be awesome. Too bad there isn't a chance that he would accept the job.

Ken Garner 8 years, 5 months ago

Wow! I never went to a college football game until i recieved season tickets for KU as a birthday gift, and since attending found out i really liked KU football and the big man on the sidelines, it was really an awsome experiance and one that i will never forget. So anywayTHANKS coach Mangino we will miss you and good luck, hope you find another team and AD that will appreciate you. Sorry Lou, but you suck right now.

Martha Oldham 8 years, 5 months ago

When will KU investigate Lou Perkins? It is time for him to go!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

tao7 8 years, 5 months ago

Good riddance! He is NOT a class act! He won a bunch of games but at what cost. HE has given KU a black eye. Sweet Lou screwed up the investigation but it is a very good ending.

penguin 8 years, 5 months ago

Ok, time to give a call to someone interviewed the last time: Charlie Strong.

Yogi 8 years, 5 months ago

Thank you Coach Mangino, for turning our football program around and making us proud again. Shame on you Lew Perkins and KU for this disgustinig display of unprofessionalism. I'm sure the other KU coaches are sleeping well tonight, knowing you are in their corners.

Confrontation 8 years, 5 months ago

autie (Anonymous) says…

"I guess that the fat man has sang."

I guess that the Autie needs English lessons.

seth5792 8 years, 5 months ago

Thanks Lew Perkins for doing your job. Sometimes tough decisions need to be made.

Coach Mangino was a decent coach, but all he was was decent. His coordinator's play calling sucked. His staff changes since Bill Young were horrible. Game situation and time management lacked. All of this is your responsibility as the head coach. Like I said thank you for getting us this far, but hopefully we will find someone who can continue on what you built and take us to the next level

beagledog 8 years, 5 months ago

Lew Perkins has done his job as the a.d. the way KU wanted him to do it, regardless if he pissed us all off, which he did. Yes, KU had a good couple of years, but Mangino left the way he came in. I am glad this s**t is over. Now we can concentrate on basketball.
One parting thought for the coach: Remember the Golden Rule. Had you done that during your tenure, you'd be coaching the Jayhawks next year.

kujayhawk 8 years, 5 months ago

Rumor is he got $6MM? If true, Perkins should be canned.

compmd 8 years, 5 months ago

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Uhlrick_Hetfield_III 8 years, 5 months ago

Perkins is a jerk. What kind of moron makes an investigation public while there's two games left on the schedule? And, yes, the word is that Lew's got some crony he wants in there. But how good is recruiting going to be with chaos reigning supreme?

Perkins has screwed the fans since day one here, and now he just screwed the football program.

2002 8 years, 5 months ago

Thank you Lew. First, major capital improvements to the Basketball and Football facilities and now accepting the resignation of a abusive, overrated coach. We owe you.

Uhlrick_Hetfield_III 8 years, 5 months ago

According to ESPN they're burying the settlement so we won't know how much it cost us to bring in one of Perkins' cronies. Hopefully the JW will go after the number.

Thanks again coach. Up yours Lew.

beagledog 8 years, 5 months ago

Let's all get our bitching and moaning out tonight and start focusing on the basketball team. Jump on the bandwagon of a winner

seth5792 8 years, 5 months ago

Perkins hasn't screwed anyone. Put the burden of responsibility squarely on the shoulders of where it belongs. Mangino made his own mistakes and that is what he has to live with. I could careless if he poked a player, or made someone do bear crawls. You don't bring up personal stuff as a way of to motivate. His staff management is horrible. Warriner's play calling sucks. Bowen's defense couldn't get it done.....Anyone notice how no one is rallying around "old coach" like they did to Charlie Weis. The guy is an a-hole, who has finally been shown the door. I say good riddance.

jvinland 8 years, 5 months ago

The way this whole thing was handled just makes me nauseous! What a cut throat firing! Any coach recruited, by Perkins and the Kansas Athletic Department, should be very wary. The past many times predicts the future.

hesshawk 8 years, 5 months ago

Coach, thanks for everythimg you did to make KU football worth talking about and watching again. I for one believe you were run off by Lew because you didn't kneel down in front of him......... And I hope to God we don't end up with some doofus like we had before him.

Rock Chalk

Ace_Ventura 8 years, 5 months ago

Sad to see. I was pissed everybody else knew but nothing on Ku web sites or LJW. BS!!!!!!

Mangino, You will be missed. THANK YOU for what you have done. LEW PERKINS, watch your back. We are watching you, and your nose.

bretherite 8 years, 5 months ago

Coach Thanks for your time. All I have to say is you robbed and deserved to be treated better.

seth5792 8 years, 5 months ago

He wasn't fired he resigned. He should be grateful Lew gave him the opportunity to save face. Again I don't see any players rallying around "old coach". Have fun coaching Prairie View A&M

drillsgt 8 years, 5 months ago

there will not be a winning season at KU for the next 5 years...turner gill cannot win here...perkins will resign next...back to the drawing a year from now see how far KU football has dropped ..there will be plenty of tickets that will not be sold...and why? cause a player who is soft cant take a a** chewin and is not wanting to listen to coaches who are trying to prepare for a game....

Mike Wagner 8 years, 5 months ago

In the statement, Perkins said the details of the settlement and the investigation would remain confidential as part of Magino's personnel file.

Are you f-ing kidding me!? This is not a private situation. Perkins should be out as well, he's a back stabbing sob! Loved the "wipe your prints off the knife in Mangino's backfat" comment, cracked me up! Thanks for all the wins coach, but good riddance (he needed to be fired for play calls on last possession of Mizzu game if nothing else!)...

yankeevet 8 years, 5 months ago

LAWRENCE, Kan. -- Embattled University of Kansas head football coach Mark Mangino resigns in the wake of a disappointing season and an investigation into his conduct with players.

beagledog 8 years, 5 months ago

Mark Cuban for a.d. KU could get any coach they want!

jumpin_catfish 8 years, 5 months ago

Resigned, is that what they call fired nowadays.

beagledog 8 years, 5 months ago

good stuff seth and jvinland. KU won't win for awhile.

Bill Lee 8 years, 5 months ago

Mangino's problem is that he had problems with players from "the hood." People in other occupations wouldn't have lasted a day after making some of the comments he did to black players.

jvinland 8 years, 5 months ago

Call it what you may; the KU football Program has been shafted by Perkins! The negative way this came about will be used against the KU Football Program for year to come. This incident has and will cost the University of Kansas a great deal more than money!

promitida 8 years, 5 months ago

Here's a thought...

If you have ever even met Lew please say, "me."

silence from the commenters

Ok, "me!" And guess what? He's nice. He's doing his job. Get over it folks.

seth5792 8 years, 5 months ago

"prepare for a game?????????" They lost seven straight. There preparation sucked.

Name one other team in the NCAA who started 5-0 and was one win away from bowl eligibilty, only had to win one game out of the next seven, and couldn't get it done.

How many of you actually realize how significantly bad Mangino handled this season. He was the head coach of one of the biggest monumental collapses in recent NCAA history.

Good Riddance

jvinland 8 years, 5 months ago

Millions can be donated to the Kansas Athletic Department. But Perkins has shown that money can not buy respectability!

riverdrifter 8 years, 5 months ago

"One parting thought for the coach: Remember the Golden Rule. Had you done that during your tenure, you'd be coaching the Jayhawks next year."

Ding, ding, ding -winner! He was a jerk and he used up all his friends. Good-bye.

Good job, Lew, but now the pressure is on big-time.

Now comes the benchmark decision of Perkins' tenure as Athletic Director at Kansas University.

randysavage 8 years, 5 months ago

Here's a thought…

If you have ever even met Lew please say, “me.”

silence from the commenters

Ok, “me!” And guess what? He's nice. He's doing his job. Get over it folks.

Well played. I sure wish I could meet Lew aka Sloth from 'The Goonies' one time and brag about it. He may have been nice to you, but he sure looks like a Grade A putz right about now.

dlkrm 8 years, 5 months ago

Good luck, Coach! I'm sorry for what the KU administration allowed Lew to put you through.

Lew should have been out days ago after the way this was handled. Mangino will go on to great success elsewhere, while Perkins will perish in the dustbin of nameless ADs. What an unbelievable rat!!!

Stuart Evans 8 years, 5 months ago

sports fans may be the most insane of all fanatics....

jhokfan 8 years, 5 months ago

And so ends the most exciting era in KU football.

Coach Mangino, I wish you nothing but the best.

shadowbox66044 8 years, 5 months ago

I am not spending one cent of my money on KU athletics until Perkins is gone! So long season tickets!

BigDog 8 years, 5 months ago

Lew Perkins did what probably had to be done .... if the stories of Mangino were true. The problem I have with Lew Perkins is the way it was done .... I believe he turned all of this public to discredit Mangino in the process. The team didn't need this public crap while still trying to concentrate on finishing their season.

Like Mangino or not .... I don't care, I just believe the public process done by Perkins is wrong.

OldEnuf2BYurDad 8 years, 5 months ago

Yes, huge mistake (no pun intended). It was fun having a competitive program for a few years. Oh well.

Mary Darst 8 years, 5 months ago

It just makes me sad that the University allowed this to happen the WAY it happened. Trash talk someone for a month, then complain about the losses. Then to publish the complaints before the season was even over? The publicity this drew from the news and t.v.was negitive was really embarrassing. I don't know what really happened so I can not make the call on whether he should have stayed or not. But, wait till the season is over to do your dirty work. I do know this sets the line (probably pretty low) of what a coach can and cannot do. Just remember to let the next coach know that poking is not allowed.

Mary Darst 8 years, 5 months ago

OK BigDog, you type faster than I do. haha

Denny2009 8 years, 5 months ago

Take it easy bigdog. I think it sucks how this went down and thanks for returning football from the dark ages...unfortunately looks like we are heading back that way. As for next year’s football team put away the purses boys and grow a pair.

yankeevet 8 years, 5 months ago

Will this affect the other football coaches??

Uhjh 8 years, 5 months ago

Mangino needed to go period! He would not put his best team on the field if you were in his doghouse you never even stiffed the field. Good coaches resolve player issues with a solution that is equable to team not a personal grudge. They always put a team of the best athletics on the field. Mangino was at best an amateur that was lucky to have some good coaches around him. Do you really think he will get another head coaching job? KU is in for a long rebuilt due to his messing his pants during all the games this year. He didn’t resign because none of the sh*t he did wasn’t true. Now we need to move on.

ravenjayhawk 8 years, 5 months ago

Get rid of our AD. A real gutless job on his part. Is there no control on this guy. We have a lameduck university head that is doing a few years here for whatever reason. No leadership there. As always a small group of big spenders controls what the rest of the univeristy does. A sad day when this AD got hired. Everything for money and special friends & relatives. I do not even give a rip about KU football for the future after all this drama. Pitifull. The bad part he will be long gone in a few years with all his big salary perks & he won't even have a thought about the University of Kansas.

jayhawker4life89 8 years, 5 months ago

Mangino turned our team around and everyone knows that. Before he came KU football was a joke! Now just because we have an off season everyone wants to target him? What a bunch of crap you're not a true fan if you don't stick by your team and coach no matter what their record is... Congrats coach, for all your success while you were with us. You will be missed! I'm sure whoever Lou drags in wont come close to doing what you did. It was fun while it lasted...

iLikelawrence 8 years, 5 months ago

Now Joe College has a significant loss in future revenue... Two wins for the Don Lew.


2nd most winningest coach KU football has ever had...


BorderRuffian 8 years, 5 months ago

Perkins should be sh^t-canned. He was, after all, Mangino's boss. IF Perkins had been doing his job correctly, he would have been handling Mangino's conduct. As it was, Mangino's failure was Perkins's failure.

Just as Mangino's job was to discipline his team to success, so was Perkins's job - to discipline and train his employees to success. So what did Perkins do? Sat and did nothing. Hoping Mangino would screw up so Perkins could get his own way. That's NOT professional! It's petty, churlish, and unethical.

Fire Perkins and make a whole new start.

Pity, I'll miss all the fat jokes, tho...

gsxr600 8 years, 5 months ago

A new head coach will be named very soon. My money's on Randy Edsall.

BorderRuffian 8 years, 5 months ago

BTW - I can hardly wait to see "Porky's Revenge" on the late nite movies. Angel Beach ain't all it's cracked up to be.

The preceding comment obviously had nothing to do with the topic being discussed. My bad for going off topic.

StrangerCreek 8 years, 5 months ago

Simple to figure out. Mangino resigned rather than be fired. They had the goods on him. And he had it coming. And not the first time either. He was an insolent, arrogant man. Sure football is a tough sport. And yeah, some of the "kids" needed discipline, but not by cheap personal shots. How he reacted with the public was insulting to us. All the parking tickets, his behavior at High School games, telling players to go home and get shot, berating people about their parents in public, the You Tube rants, etc. You supporters agree with this behavior? Airing players dirty laundry in public is a cheap trick. He lead by fear and intimidation not by example. Motivation by personal insults is not a class act. He is not class act.

He stacked the deck, won games against underrated teams to get his bowl qualifying games. And a winning coach? Only in 2007 did the Team really soar. And it was because of them, not him. He barely won 50% of the games. That's no earth shattering record. A 65%+ ratio is a winner. And Coach Fam's rants are even more lame when you look at his record. It was worse than Mangino's.

And quit beating up on Perkins. He was hired to do what he's been doing. He was given an assignment from the powers to do what's he's done. And quit squawking about the timing. When the complaints were formally presented to the AD it had to be addressed then. Not 3 months later. There was, and is, a liability to the school to address these issues immediately. There may have been rumors before but when they became documented, they had to be addressed. Mr. Perkins is a class act. I know him, worked with him, and he is an honorable man. End of story.

I say good riddance. KU's good name is too precious to be tainted with any association with Mangino.

mjohnson55 8 years, 5 months ago

Mark - I wish you and your family all of the best. You provided us with 8 great years. The last 5 years I started getting excited about KU Football in April and could not wait for the season to begin. Without your leadership, recruiting this would not have happened. I am very disappointed in the way that Perkins handled this situation and the total lack of respect he demonstrated for you, KU and the state of Kansas. A real professional would of handled this situation differently regardless of the outcome. All the very best to you and your family!

ksjayhawk81 8 years, 5 months ago

Thank you for a fun run Coach! You will be missed

bearded_gnome 8 years, 5 months ago

Fat jokes. What a shocker. Very original, guys.

---even when we won the Orangebowl, I believed that we should've had a coach who modeled good behavior in his private life, as in good health behaviors maintaining proper weight

heybluekc 8 years, 5 months ago

Actually everyone Glen Mason turned this program around, Terry Allen recruited a great D1-AA team here destroyed it. Mangino rebuilt it but now its time to become a seasonal competitor in the conference. Not every couple of years or so. We will get a good coach that is a fact.

jamnjohnks 8 years, 5 months ago

can I get that coat he wore at games when it was cold outside? I need a rug for my living room....and dining room. That should cover it.

kujayhawk7476 8 years, 5 months ago

Thank you Coach Mangino. Now, it's onward and upward.

In my opinion, we are very lucky to have Lew Perkins at the helm of our athletic ship.

ivalueamerica 8 years, 5 months ago

what a bunch of filthy worthless bullies.

I am indifferent about Mangino as I do not like sports.

But do you worthless bags of putrid wastes have no better manners, morals, intelegence or maturity than to make fat jokes.

You are really mindless children, immature bullies and trash.

Shawna Huffman 8 years, 5 months ago


First I'd love to make millions of dollars EACH year! Secondly, I'd LOVE to make millions just for "resigning" from said job.

I'm just curious, since Mangino is so fat and happy with so much money per year...does he do ANYTHING to help the Lawrence economy? I'd love to do some business with him, at a premium price, of course.

justsmile2day 8 years, 5 months ago

Hey jackripper, just say no.. Dude your ate up!! I think you need to go to sleep already..

ksuone1 8 years, 5 months ago

you know that it will never end there in lawrence as you all are soooo stupid. Letting an east coast wonder fool throw you program back to where it was. great for me...K S U fan but still a joke and a disgrace on the university as the man can and will coach.... not in the state of confusion any more way out west these days wow unbelievable....

justsmile2day 8 years, 5 months ago

Amen Marion, it's all water under the bridge now. You have to like the fact that Lew made this public in the final two weeks but the results will be hidden, wth!! It would all be hidden if he didn't make it public. It should have all stayed within, right or wrong.. I'm sure if it was anyone on here that was in Mangino's position they too wouldn't like how it was all handled.

Sparko 8 years, 5 months ago

Coach Mangino was never healthy, let's all hope he gets to relax a bit and work off the morbid obesity which would have cut him down mid-contract anyway. This is actually a Godsend for him if he will only acknowledge it.

Marion: you have a good point--it all distills down to a funny truism: "My vicarious worship of detached athletes who happen to go to KU is greater than the vicarious love of people who follow MU's detached athletes."

Steve Jacob 8 years, 5 months ago

As I have said before, now you waste the next two years, by the time the new coach gets his players and system going, you get Texas and Oklahoma on the schedule again. So we should compete in 2014.

slowplay 8 years, 5 months ago

"Americans die daily in Afghanistan and you people are worried about this?".... Life goes on Marion, life goes on.

Back on subject. Best news I've heard all day. Mancino, will never have to work again if he so chooses and KU can take the next step up to being a Big 12 title competitor.

riverdrifter 8 years, 5 months ago

Kingman019 has it right. Great post.

Jack, you & Beo must be big, rotund dudes who couldn't run out of sight in a week.

Now, let's get a real coach. I don't think it will be Nolan Cromwell and I do not think Gary Patterson would come here. Unless you offer him big money. Big money. Go Lew.

Patti Hadl 8 years, 5 months ago

KU Chancellor Bernadette Gray-Little also released a statement on Mangino's resignation.

“Athletics Director Lew Perkins kept me fully apprised throughout this process and I support the resolution that he has reached with Coach Mangino," she said in a statement provided to

I'll bet Louigi wrote this one himself!

sitdownnorm 8 years, 5 months ago

Kingman - if they had the goods on Mangino I'm guessing they convinced him to resign for very little money - right? I'm guessing about $5 million of the $6.6 million.

Rumor is the Gridiron Club has been downsized by about 5 yards on each end but seats are still available...

mr_right_wing 8 years, 5 months ago

promitida: "ME" too.

Hey, I have worked briefly with the past 3 ADs, Lew seemed pretty much like Dr. Fredrick to me, quiet...diplomatic and careful, an administrator. Dr. Bohl, or 'rambo Al' as we called him was almost the opposite, very outgoing, and at the time it seemed like his #1 priority was KU fans. He was a salesman. There was no sign of how vindictive he would turn out to be, as well as irresponsible. So just 'knowing' someone doesn't give you a whole lot of insight.

Mike Kendall 8 years, 5 months ago

It is too bad that it had to end like this but I will always remember the Nick Reids, the Todd Reesings and the Kerry Meiers. Coach Mangino had a way with those kind of players that nobody else wanted. When I was in attendance for that Nebraska at KU game, Novemeber 5th, 2005, the Jayhawks hadn't beaten the Cornhuskers since 1969. I have Mangino to thank for that! The goal posts came down and went into Potter Lake. LOTS OF GOOD MEMORIES! My hope is that Mangino will get another chance because he is a good coach, I don't care what anyone else says. I hope it isn't at another Big XII School, because as they say, "What goes around, comes around." Thanks, Coach--good luck to you!

Kevin Randell 8 years, 5 months ago

Could someone please please please give Marion a memo..... THIS IS A FOOTBALL blog!!!! I know there are soldiers are dying daily in Afghanistan. But we are here to talk football. But hey...for you...I will comment on the soldiers. Here we go:

Hey....have you ever watched a football game on TV? Do you ever see ALL of those soldiers who pack the tents to watch a "football" game on the armed forces network? These soldiers get to escape the hell they are in for a few hours to watch their favorite teams......

So...I think it is important that the University does all it can so that our Jayhawk fans/alumni who are over there fighting get to see a GOOD Jayhawk team instead of facing the enemy after watching a 7 game losing skid!!!!

So please.... do all of us a favor and just keep this blog in perspective. It's a football blog. So quit being so dramatic and serious. :)

Richard Payton 8 years, 5 months ago

I want to thank the KU football players for showing great leadership while the investigation was underway. Many football players gave it their all which I appreciate. Next years football schedule appears more difficult in the non-conference with Georgia Tech being the one game I look most forward to. The conference schedule will not be as hard as this years schedule. Next years team will be exciting wth the offensive line returning and Toben as running back. Remenber a new coach may also bring some players with him. I thank Mangino for leaving KU with dignity. I do believe Lew had no choice but to give Mangino the slip since this involved more than a poke in the chest. Hope the next coach Lew picks can beat Oklahoma or Texas and builds upon what has begin in the KU football program.

JustNoticed 8 years, 5 months ago

Give it a rest, Marion. The last thing I want to hear from Perkins is what he thinks about the war. I mean, can you imagine? Lew, "Oh, you know, I really don't want to talk about something I am involved in and that I know about, something I am responsible for, something I am doing that affects many people's live because, well, you know, none of that is important so let me just skip all that even though that's why I am here and why you're listening to me. Let me talk about something truly important even though I am completely ignorant about it."

Richard Payton 8 years, 5 months ago

Marion why ask me what Lew thinks about Americans dying in Afganistan? I believe you should ask LEW! Lew is an AD not a military advisor. I was in the Marine Corps Reserve and I value all Life. Marion thats why some good men and women give their all so you may enjoy your blogs.

! God Bless the USA !

heybluekc 8 years, 5 months ago


A good coach wins more than .359 in his conference. He just does.

angryAL 8 years, 5 months ago

You're putting me on, right??? An "investigation" over a simple "poke in the chest??" When are people in the country going to grow a pair of balls and say, "Get the hell out of my office with this idiotic complaint" to people who bring things like this forward, demanding attention??

Grow up, already!!!

killjoy 8 years, 5 months ago

Chancellor Gray-Little, it's time to step up to the plate and fire Lew Perkins!

SWJayhawk13 8 years, 5 months ago

“He and I have reached a mutually satisfactory agreement that reflects the appreciation we have for his efforts on behalf of Kansas football."

Somehow, I highly doubt that it was a "mutually satisfactory agreement". It was what Lew wanted, because he makes sure that he gets what he wants. Lew sucks, why isn't he gone yet???

thefisherman 8 years, 5 months ago

You people and making fun of Mangino for his size completely lack creativity. For instance, I could choose to make fun of most of the people who post here for being ugly, but that would lack creativity, because it's just too easy.

Mangino did a great job as a coach. He brought KU's football program from behind the shadow of KSU to beating them several years and putting KU back on the football map.

truman 8 years, 5 months ago

I would assume since KU is a public university we will find out the amount that Mangino was paid to resign. I don't think that can be a secret.

jhokfan 8 years, 5 months ago

I'm disappointed that Mangino was let go but firing Lew is not the solution.

shadowbox66044 8 years, 5 months ago

Napoleon_Dynomite (Anonymous) says…

luck Few

Napoleon, that is AWESOME! Luck Few!! HA! I Love It!!

JennZ 8 years, 5 months ago

Thanks Coach Mangino for our first ever Orange Bowl win (which we'll probably never see that again), back to back bowl apperances, and 2nd coach in KU football history with the most wins! You definetly turned the KU football program around and you get full credit for it. I'm glad Perkins didn't hire you so he can't get any credit for your good work here. Good luck to you and your family.

Bradley Kemp 8 years, 5 months ago

It's curious how sports fan often refer to someone's being (or not being) a "class act." Do you suppose they mean high- or low-class?

mr_right_wing 8 years, 5 months ago

Yep JackRipper, from my brief time in a strictly work situation Drs Fredrick and Perkins had the same demeanor. My point was of course (which you probably missed) even though I (or others) may say we know someone, doesn't mean we have a whole lot of insight into that person. Another poster had said they know Lew and that he's a nice guy. (yeah, so..?)

justtired 8 years, 5 months ago

Thanks coach!! I hope that whoever takes the job also has one to fall back on one with what goes on in the athletic department.

Steve Miller 8 years, 5 months ago

“I didn’t make a change,” Perkins said. “Coach resigned.”

Bull butter, mangino was railroaded. Perkins needs to go....

ksdivakat 8 years, 5 months ago

Good luck Coach! Now back to KU football sucking!

lawrence_citizen 8 years, 5 months ago

Mangino has not changed in the 8 years he was here. He coached the same way. Perkins knew what Mangino was doing, yet chose to do nothing about it, because we were winning and bringing in money. Because of this, Perkins is just as guilty of misconduct as Mangino. So I have to ask, when will the Chancellor begin a internal investigation in to Perkins behavior?

Matt Schwartz 8 years, 5 months ago

“I didn’t make a change,” Perkins said. “Coach resigned.”

I wonder how bad perkins breath stinks of poo when he opens his mouth? i'll stand upwind , thank you.

exkumom 8 years, 5 months ago

For all you that LOVE Mangino, you obviously were NEVER the object of his abuse. Terry Allen had talent he just didn't know what to do with it - he was in over his head. You can't go from Division 2 to the Big XII and coach (or not coach) like he did and expect to win. My son played for the Jayhawks for Terry Allen and was there for Mangino's first year. It was a very, very frustrating tenure for him, but he loves KU (as I do), but the right decision was made with Mangino (resign or fired). KU would not have gotten any good recruits with him remaining as Head Coach. Me, as a parent, would not subject my child to that kind of abuse and I would definitely be pointing him another direction.
Alot of people say "tough discipline" is required because this is a rough sport - I do not disagree - but a player needs to know that their coach has their back (and verbal/mental/physical abuse is not the route to go) - otherwise, it doesn't work - all part of teamwork. I'm ecstatic today - I am celebrating with and for my son (whom as I posted yesterday - endured Mangino's verbal/mental abuse within his first month at KU)!!!


ksdivakat 8 years, 5 months ago

And is your son in the pros now??? My guess is not, and yes we are sad to see Mangino go, now KU football will go back to sucking a$$ just like it did for 40 yrs prior!

missmagoo 8 years, 5 months ago

This is the WORST decision EVER.


exkumom 8 years, 5 months ago

My son was being scouted by the Pros while he was at KU and yes would be there now. But unfortunately both of his knees and shoulder were injured, or should I say destroyed (thanks to the lack of knee braces that KU failed to put on their offensive linemen). He has had a total of 5 knee surgeries, since his playing days at KU. He is 29 years old and is in dire need of double knee replacements - but is being denied by insurance because of his age! The players do give it their all and deserve a coach that treats them with respect. Just because Mangino was not the guy, doesn't mean they can't bring in a coach that CAN turn the Jayhawks into a winning program. And I can't wait for that day to happen!!! ROCK CHALK JAYHAWK!!!

exkumom 8 years, 5 months ago

"Hey, here's an idea for all the whiney, cry baby, wah-wah players that complained about Mangino as a coach……transfer to another school. No one's making you stay at KU. If a player didn't like it here, and the way Mangino coaches, transfer. It's as easy as that."

Hilbilly Jim - if all the players that had a problem (that were not speaking out) transferred - you wouldn't have a football team - but I guess that would be okay with most people at KU - wouldn't it?

You have NO CLUE!!!!

ksdivakat 8 years, 5 months ago

Heres the deal, IF the allegations had been true, then Lew could have fired him with no monies on the contract, but he didnt. Why was that? Why didnt these players comes out with this sooner than 6 yrs ago? This was a witch hunt pure and simple, and your son coming out probably just wants those knee replacments paid for by KU. Nobody likes it when things are done scandelously and shady and thats the way this was done and yeah, we dont like it. By the way, your son would have never made it in the pro's they are much much harder than the college level any day of the week and twice on sunday! Have you ever seen a pro team practice??? Geezzz talk about abusive!

ayres 8 years, 5 months ago

We'll miss Mangino. The band and Mangino were the only thing interesting about KU Football.

The world of college sports is like a Peyton Place. It's kind of embarrassing.

BigAl 8 years, 5 months ago

Calling Mangino a class act is absolutely burying your head in the sand. People are concerned about KU going back to poor and bad football teams. Losing 7 in a row isn't bad enough for you? Having only one winning Big 12 season in eight years isn't bad enough for you?

Mangino is a classic bully. There is a reason he chose to resign with a settlement. He absolutely did NOT want the results of the investigation to come out. These complaints against him didn't come from just a few disgruntled players.

Time to move on.

BigAl 8 years, 5 months ago

How do people reconcile the fact that Mangino all but attacked that young parking attendent? How about his spoiled brat antics at the LHS football game? Forget everything else, those two incidents alone should tell you all you need to know about the man.

ksdivakat 8 years, 5 months ago

I think some of you better look back at KU's history with football. YES Mangino had the BEST team in the last 40 yrs at KU! How do you explain that? Luck? I doubt that, but we will see wont we?

woodenfleaeater 8 years, 5 months ago


Your son played for KU? He was number 65? I'm trying to remember him. Was he the one that used to pretend he was hurt all the time? He would lay on the field for awhile, and then limp off with assistance from the trainers? I used to always see him at the Wheel after the games.

BigAl 8 years, 5 months ago

I can explain some of it ksdivakat. Mangino built his reputation by beating up on an extremely soft schedule. He had one winning season out of eight in the Big 12. One. When it came to real competition, Mangino usually went in the tank. How else do you explain one winning Big12 season? How do you explain losing 7 games in a row after barely winning in a soft early schedule? Yes, the 12-1 season was great but he didn't play any of the big boys in the Big 12. And, he lost to our biggest rival. Mangino did some good while here but it is time to move on. Even with the KU history in football, people still should expect more than something less than mediocre.
Even Ron Prince had a better conference record than Mangino.

exkumom 8 years, 5 months ago

"This was a witch hunt pure and simple, and your son coming out probably just wants those knee replacments paid for by KU."

ksdivakat - for your information my son never said a word to anyone but his family about what Mangino did to him AND as far as "knee replacement paid for by KU" - the surgeries he had while playing for KU were billed to my insurance company first then KU. AND that's NOT why I am speaking my mind about this issue - I (nor he) wants anything from KU except the best. So I really take offense to your comment!

And yes I've seen a pro team practice - You don't know my son - so you can't say that he wouldn't have made it in the pros. I guess that's just your way of saying that NO KU player is pro material???? How sad!!

Be sad if you like - I don't care! My family is celebrating!!!

exkumom 8 years, 5 months ago

"Your son played for KU? He was number 65? I'm trying to remember him. Was he the one that used to pretend he was hurt all the time? He would lay on the field for awhile, and then limp off with assistance from the trainers? I used to always see him at the Wheel after the games."

woodenfleaeater - my son never laid on the field, never pretended to be hurt and was only helped off the field by trainers on two occasions (in two different years) - both times with season ending knee injuries. Sorry I don't know who you're talking about! And I mentioned his name already!

BigAl 8 years, 5 months ago

No ksdivakat, the orange bowl is not soft. But, in 8 years, I want and expect more than one Orange Bowl win. Mangino never won the North division let alone a conference championship. He beat VaTech in the Orange Bowl after playing a soft schedule and losing to Missouri. The Orange Bowl was great but one good season and one great win in eight years doesn't get it done. 7 losing seasons in the Big12 is soft. Losing 7 games in a row is soft.

Couple his losing records with his terrible people skills and it adds up to dismisal. He needed to go.

TopekaBlade 8 years, 5 months ago

Once again, the t-shirt guy on Mass. St. gets screwed by KU. He's stuck with a bunch of "Our coach can eat your coach" t-shirts.

earline james 8 years, 5 months ago

So much things to say, right now... I feel for anyone loosing a job, especially right before Christmas. If it wasn't news however many years ago (the parking thing), how is it newsworthy now? It's good he found a career in coaching because he didn't have the personality for nursing or social work. (Can you imagine?) When is the yard sale? I could use a new plus sized KU tshirt, or two. And, as a fat person, I'm very offended by some of the comments directed at Mr. Mangino's weight, girth, size. I've been reading up on fat acceptance and want to share this: some people are taller than you are, some people are smarter that you are, some people will have tiny feet. Every person is worthy.
Lay off the fat jokes. It reflects poorly, on you.

ksdivakat 8 years, 5 months ago

Prior to mangino BigAL, when did KU win the orange bowl??

BlackVelvet 8 years, 5 months ago

"For a man known largely for his intensity and fire" largely, hehhehheh...pun intended????

gsxr600 8 years, 5 months ago

"Mark Mangino has just been contacted by the University of Notre Dame about becoming the next head football coach for the Fighting Irish!!!!"

Link or it didn't happen.

Jimo 8 years, 5 months ago

I hope the program donors realize that millions of their dollars were used to cover Perkins backside for his misfeasance. If there were an accountability, he'd be fired.

Grundoon Luna 8 years, 5 months ago

Mangina be smackin' them ho's too much and they tagged him back. Karma's a biz-nitch.

onehawkoneshock 8 years, 5 months ago

I want to know how Lew Perkins escapes this mess. He practically destroyed the athletic department at Wichita State. UConn celebrated when he left. People here are burying their heads. Perkins will ruin this place if you allow it.

ToriFreak13 8 years, 5 months ago

It's pretty easy to get Lew out if that's what we want, the same way he went after Mangino. Start Lew Perkins as a trending topic on twitter...let it get picked up by FOX news or CNN. Before you know it the AD will be under investigation and if our new chancellor wants to make a name for herself....DON'T offer them a settlement to leave. Instead show them the door. They may just end up cellmates with Bernie Madoff. Hell the reselling of basketball tickets is enough for a headline. So lets get the tweets rolling...

Ricky_Vaughn 8 years, 5 months ago

I called it! Out before the bowl games.

There goes arguably the most successful football coach KU's ever had.

Just pray that you don't end up with someone like Ron Prince (shudder).

hahahahaha 8 years, 5 months ago

The number of just plain stupid comments on all of these blogs are hilarious to me. These boards are full of people who act like they have inside knowledge on what has gone on during manginos time at KU when I would venture to say that most have no idea at all what it was like. I'm all about freedom to comment and say whatever you want to but its getting old real quick to read peoples opinion on a matter on which they probably shouldnt be commenting, I had to stop reading posts because of how ignorant so many people sound on here. So please everyone try to make some educated comments atleast every once in awhile

Ricky_Vaughn 8 years, 5 months ago

Basically what happened:

Mark, if you resign, you get a big pile of money and we won't talk about the results of the investigation, so you'll be able to save face.

Left_handed 8 years, 5 months ago

"Educated" comments? When you use words like "atleast" and "manginos"? "peoples" comments and "real" quick?

Learn the difference between an adjective and an adverb, proper use of capitalization for proper nouns and how to make possessive forms, and maybe you'd have some credibilty to make your "educated" comments.

opie81 8 years, 5 months ago

I am very happy to see all the calls for Lew Perkins to be fired. Lew has disgraced our athletics program more than Mangino, without a doubt. If taxpayers fund Mangino's salary, don't they deserve to know that the buyout payment was? Why was the investigation made public, but the findings of it are not? YOU MAKE ME SICK TO MY STOMACH LEW PERKINS! HAVE FUN BEING THE MOST HATED MAN IN LAWRENCE. YOU FOOL!

Armen Kurdian 8 years, 5 months ago

Thanx for the first Orange Bowl victory in school history!

BigAl 8 years, 5 months ago

Ricky_Vaughn (Anonymous) says… "I called it! Out before the bowl games. There goes arguably the most successful football coach KU's ever had. Just pray that you don't end up with someone like Ron Prince (shudder)."

Hey Ricky, I am pretty sure that Ron Prince had a better record in the Big12 than Mangino did.

BigAl 8 years, 5 months ago

ksdivakat (Anonymous) says… "Prior to mangino BigAL, when did KU win the orange bowl??"

The Orange Bowl was a great win. So, based on one game, this coach should be kept around forever?
One winning season out of 8 in the Big12 simply isn't getting the job done.

yankeevet 8 years, 5 months ago

ok; the end of an era; big deal ; move on;kiss it; and just go on......what a bunch of c..........

StrangerCreek 8 years, 5 months ago

Hey Opie...Tax payers don't pay the coaches salaries. The Athletic dept does. And it's not really a part of the State institution. KU can't find the money to fix their plumbing problems, is looking to cut services because of budget cuts, and the Athletic dept builds multi-million dollar buildings and playing fields, pays their coaches millions and the educators are having to scrounge around for paper to write on. What's wrong with this picture? What does it say about us as a society in general? We got our priorities screwed up that's what.

Christine Anderson 8 years, 5 months ago

Twenty-seven years ago, I landed in Lawrence at KU. I was told the Fine Arts Dept. was unparalled! (It was and still is.) The same people told me if I was looking to take in a KU sporting event, to buy basketball tickets, because football here just wasn't worth it. Funny how things come full circle.

About Mangino-what does his weight have to do with it?

gccs14r 8 years, 5 months ago

It's hard to get people to respect you when you have no respect for yourself.

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