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KU reports 284 students exhbiting symptoms of swine flu

August 28, 2009


Swine flu spreads at KU

More than 200 KU students have reported flu-like symptoms. Enlarge video

Swine Flu Pandemic

An outbreak of H1N1 Swine Flu was reported in Mexico in April 2009. By the end of May, it had spread across the U.S., with all 50 states reporting cases.

Cases of suspected H1N1 flu at Kansas University had grown to 284 as of Friday afternoon, but the number of new cases was down for the second day in a row.

Todd Cohen, a university spokesman, said the number still represented less than 1 percent of the student body, and there were no planned cancellations because of the spreading flu.

Meantime, notes have been posted across campus to remind people to wash their hands.

“There’s probably 100 percent awareness” of flu prevention efforts, he said. “As the semester progresses, we’ll probably have fewer cases than we would have had otherwise.”

Lisa Horn, spokeswoman for the Lawrence-Douglas County Health Department, said that the organization has met with KU, along with Haskell and Baker universities to deliver prevention recommendations from the Centers for Disease Control.

KU has been following the recommendations, with the isolation of students who develop flu-like symptoms, Horn said.

The guidelines call for additional measures if necessary, such as suspension of classes, and increasing the distance between students by moving desks farther apart or encouraging distance learning. Those recommendations, however, are only called for if the situation worsens beyond the severity seen so far this year.

Cohen said there were no plans for cancellations or suspension of classes, and said the university continues to monitor the daily number of students reporting flu-like symptoms.

When H1N1 vaccines are available — likely in October, Horn said — most students will be among the initial priority groups to receive the vaccine, which will be available from the health department and at Watkins Community Health Center.

She said the department continues to encourage people to take preventative measures, like coughing into their sleeves, frequently washing hands and staying home from work or school if they become ill.


Bobo Fleming 8 years, 9 months ago

43 last Sunday- 284 today. What about next week?

twinetowngirl 8 years, 9 months ago

What a scare tactic...none have even been tested to make sure it is the swine flu..

middlemgmt 8 years, 9 months ago

These students have jobs in the community and are likely spreading it. It looks like Lawrence could be hit hard by this.

Chris Golledge 8 years, 9 months ago

twinetowngirl (Anonymous) says…

What a scare tactic…none have even been tested to make sure it is the swine flu..

TTGirl, if you investigate, I believe you'll find that the CDC has recommended not testing here at KU. Something along the lines that a) yeah, we know it is spreading, b) the test results take long enough during which time you should treat it as though it were anyway, and c) if you try testing everyone, you will flood the labs and you won't get the results back until they are over it anyway.

If medical intervention is required, yes, they still test.

Chris Golledge 8 years, 9 months ago

Reviewing the history of 1918, I kind of hope it spreads like crazy; we'll have a better immunity base if/when it does turn more deadly.

sherbert 8 years, 9 months ago

How do they know it's swine flu, as opposed to regular flu, if they're not testing. I don't think it's something they should be posting numbers on if they are just assuming.

Boston_Corbett 8 years, 9 months ago

I read an article somewhere else where a KU student was discussing his nausea and intestinal pain which supposedly KU was attributing to H1N1.

News flash: Flu is upper respiratory. Flu does not infect the stomach and gut. Something else may come in behind it, but that is not the influenza virus.

It makes you wonder if these numbers have absolutely any meaning.

There is so much over-reporting, inaccurate reporting, and scare reporting going on about H1N1. Its pretty sloppy stuff, actually.

And then people like Marion make it even worse.

Kynsicat 8 years, 9 months ago

It has also hit the local daycare circuit. Not good news...

Christine Anderson 8 years, 9 months ago

Good point, sherbert. My older boy was sent home from elementary school this week with vomiting and diarrhea. I called the dr's office to ask how the symptoms are differentiated between "regular" flu, gastritis, and H1N1. The answer I received troubled me. The dr's nurse said, " We can't tell the difference based on symptoms." Then I asked, "Well then, how and why are the numbers of H1N1 cases increasing so rapidly? How do we know if a person should be tested to see if it's H1N1?" The nurse says, "We (at this particular office) are not testing, period. " I pressed it and asked why, and she stated, "If it's confirmed as H1N1, then we are obligated to give the antiviral med, and there are not enough supplies of it right now. Only if a person requires hospitalization will they be tested. Besides, the antiviral may or may not be effective, and it has to be given within the first 48 hours of the onset of symptoms." I then asked her how are the numbers of H1N1 going up and up at KU, if they are not testing, and we are NOT certain of which strain it is. She answered, "Well, we spoke with the director of Watkins today, and he says the numbers reported in the news are not accurate." Mr. Hyland or somebody, can you please help figure out what is really going on here? I mean, if we want to track H1N1 for epidemiological purposes, this is just whacked.

twinetowngirl 8 years, 9 months ago

cg22165 I realize that, but if they do not know for sure, they should not be saying that it swine flu like many times have you had a regular flu with the exact same symptoms. The truth is that they don't know.
They will get the public all riled up and there will be many many people trying to get the vaccine when it comes out, untested mind you, and watch how many people die or become paralyzed from the vaccine. And nobody can do anything about it given the immunity that the companies that will mass produce the vaccine have been given. No law suits, no accountability. So tell me, do you take the chance that your child may or may not get the swine flu...might be mild condition and build immunity to it...or do you give them some untested vaccine and risk killing or disabiling them?

Boston_Corbett 8 years, 9 months ago

Let me repeat:

There is much over-reporting, inaccurate reporting, and scare reporting going on about influenza in general and H1N1 in particular. The KU storyline is just one example.

It's pretty sloppy stuff, actually.

Phillbert 8 years, 9 months ago

Boston -- You are wrong about the symptoms not including intestinal problems. Straight from the CDC Web site:

"What are the signs and symptoms of this virus in people?

The symptoms of novel H1N1 flu virus in people include fever, cough, sore throat, runny or stuffy nose, body aches, headache, chills and fatigue. A significant number of people who have been infected with this virus also have reported diarrhea and vomiting. Severe illnesses and death has occurred as a result of illness associated with this virus."

sweettrue2 8 years, 9 months ago

Whether its tested and confirmed H1N1, does it REALLY matter? If you have Influenza you are SICK AS %&$@ and contagious. Much like what is going on here. Tamiflu does decrease severity and longevity of the symptoms but does not cure you. Stay isolated for crying out loud and treat the symptoms. AGAIN does it REALLY matter if you are a CONFIRMED case?

gsxr600 8 years, 9 months ago

Regular flu peak months: November through March...

While I don't believe 284 students have H1N1, I would be willing to bet most if not all do not have the regular flu. The flu happens, but not this time of year.. Both are serious and should be dealt with carefully.

If it comes down to KU not saying anything or KU saying something, I would like to be informed. This information isn't supposed to scare anyone... It's not a tactic of some motive KU has to disrupt everything. It's simply information. They aren't lying in their statements, it's everyone else that turns what they say into mass chaos and discontent.

momofk 8 years, 9 months ago

they are testing for it at lmh. my husband got his results, (negative), within a few minutes...

Boston_Corbett 8 years, 9 months ago

And although I lament the quality of reporting on science, as demonstrated on this topic, the outright lies and misrepresentations about vaccines generally provided by twinetowngirl is outrageous.

Vaccines save lives.

Godot 8 years, 9 months ago

The CDC recommends that people NOT go to the doctor if they think they have H1N1; the recommendation is to stay home until the fever has been absent for at least 24 hours, without medicaation.

that is a great way to keep a lid on the number of swine flu infections===just ignore them.

How many ICU beds are there in Lawrence? If you are one of the unlucky ones to have your lungs turn to liquid within 48 hours of contracting swine flu, will LMH be able to help you?

Boston_Corbett 8 years, 9 months ago

Phillbert -- I stated it incorrectly. But here is the source of my view. From a respected virologist who trains physicians.

The point is that flu does not infect and reproduce in the gut or stomach.

MaryKatesPillStash 8 years, 9 months ago

momofk, your husband was not likely specifically tested for swine flu. As you will see here, even the most sophisticated of tests take longer than a few minutes.

igby 8 years, 9 months ago

They will be closing Campus by October, at this rate. Could be as soon as September. It's the wet weather and wet air that's causing the virus to be air-born for longer exposure times. The winds blowing the wet air and virus around. You should shower several times per day and avoid eating around larger crowds of people. Eat at home and cook at home.

Kristine Bailey 8 years, 9 months ago

H1N1 appears to be highly contagious but not terribly virulent. That means, a lot of people get it and get over it. When was the last time your kid got the flu the 2 nd week of school? If you have Fever, you have the flu. Period.

riverdrifter 8 years, 9 months ago

"If you have Fever, you have the flu. Period."

I think this whole thread is sick.

igby 8 years, 9 months ago

It's very much similar to the 1983, Asian Flu. A strong virus that attacked the lungs. It started off with a dry cough and fever that last and last and wears you down to the point you have no energy and can hardly eat or drink. With coughing and congestion that is so dense is your bronchial you tend to puke a lot. Your blood gas level drops so low that your almost dead from lack of oxygen in your blood. It takes about a week in an oxygen tent and lots of liquid to out last the course of the virus. It takes about a month to recover and get your energy back to normal.

persevering_gal 8 years, 9 months ago

The fact for KU is that Watkin's Health Center is not officially claiming that it is Swine Flu, but rather that they are calling it Swine Flu since it is not regular flu season. That is the primary reason why they are not testing anyone for H1N1. LJWorld probably should have clarified that a little bit better. No one can really do anything about H1N1, other than telling the person to rest and drink plenty of liquids. This is another reason why students are not being tested.

persevering_gal 8 years, 9 months ago

More info on the cases of students displaying symptoms and what one needs to do.

wibn2013 8 years, 9 months ago

I think one important detail is being overlooked here-- how many of these 284 students are actually experiencing any symptoms at all? I will not argue and say that none of them have legitimate symptoms of some flu-like illness, or H1N1 for that matter, but let's think about this from a college student's perspective:

  1. You receive an email telling you that swine flu is spreading. It lists common symptoms of the virus and advises you to take precautions.

  2. The count goes up.

  3. You receive another email urging extreme caution and practically ordering you to stay at home when you have symptoms. Do NOT go to Watkins, do NOT go to class-- just rest.

One morning you're a little tired and you decide you'd rather not go to that 9:00 a.m. class. You email your professor telling him or her that you're exhibiting H1N1 symptoms (an easy, hard-to-excuse out). The professor reports the number to the University, and our count rises.

Conceivable, right?

As for those who do have actual symptoms of H1N1 or any other illness, I hope that they recover soon. We're lucky to live in a highly developed country.

classclown 8 years, 9 months ago

KU probably found out that other Big 12 schools had higher numbers of cases of swine flu and so decided to count every sniffle as a reported case in order to not appear as if they are lagging behind.

Boston_Corbett 8 years, 9 months ago

The thing that ought to give people nausea is Marion thinking he understands anything on the basis of his Fox news weblinks.

Kristine Bailey 8 years, 9 months ago

Marion, Here is the good news part from the WHO article.

"Likewise, the clinical picture of pandemic influenza is largely consistent across all countries. The overwhelming majority of patients continue to experience mild illness. Although the virus can cause very severe and fatal illness, also in young and healthy people, the number of such cases remains small."

bearded_gnome 8 years, 9 months ago

elsewhere WHO reported that H1N1 had very little genetic variation, surprising for its rapid spread portending an easier time fighting it.

better than Marioni on Swine Flu:

---includes: vaccines have tiny microchips for "mind control!"
yeah. really serious about this stuff [?].

twinetowngirl 8 years, 9 months ago

Boston_Corbett (Anonymous) says…

And although I lament the quality of reporting on science, as demonstrated on this topic, the outright lies and misrepresentations about vaccines generally provided by twinetowngirl is outrageous.

Vaccines save lives.

Boston..ever listened to the long list of side effects on EVERY commercial or advertisement for prescription drugs? And those actually go through clinical studies and trials before being put out on the market. This vaccine is being mass produced in only a few months unlike the 1 to 2 years it should take to make it. You think that makes it safe?? Your entitled to your opinion just as I am. I actually feel sorry for you thinking that I am spreading lies and misrepresentations. If you want to be the goverments human guinea PIG and get that vaccine that is your choice, as not getting it is mine.

Boston_Corbett 8 years, 9 months ago

Even Boston Corbett, who criticizes much of the doom and gloom reporting on this H1N1 outbreak, acknowledges that flu is a serious illness. The US experiences 30,000 deaths annually from normal seasonal flus, and with the higher number of infections anticipated from this H1N1, there could easily be many thousands more this year.

And these deaths will be different.. Experts expect more deaths in the young, instead of the usual concentration in the old and aged.

The basic safety and efficacy of flu vaccine production has been proven over years of use. It is also simply a incorrect to say that clinical trials are not being conducted on this specific vaccine. Would it be nice to have two years for more studies? Sure.

But without a vaccination program, thousands, if not tens of thousands of additional deaths may occur in the US.

Twinetowngirl seems to suggest that it would be more wise to wait for a long series of trials to provide gold-standard assurances of safety. By implication she suggests this vaccine will be so dangerous that it will kill more than the flu... thousands, if not tens of thousands of individuals. This simply is a wild exaggeration of the worst sort.

Twinetowngirl is entitled to her opinion. But so is Boston. And Boston thinks her opinion is based in emotion and poltics, and not based on science. Boston believes that people like twintowngirl advocate a position that causes tens of thousands of illnesses and hundreds of deaths. Just in the US alone.

BigPrune 8 years, 9 months ago

If you start to look like this (click link), please stay indoors until this passes.

Lacy Mohler 8 years, 9 months ago

What has set the swine flu apart from the usual seasonal flu is that it starts with a sore throat and about twelve hours of nausea, vomitting and diarrhea. My son had it this summer and had the above symptoms along with high fever, general malaise, and the ususal respiratory symptoms. He did say his respiratory symptoms were not as bad as with previous flu viruses, but the aches/pain and weakness were worse. Probably due to the extra dehydration from the vomitting/diarrhea and fever.

twinetowngirl 8 years, 9 months ago

Talking in 3rd person now huh... Boston,,,go ahead and get that vaccine.

puddleglum 8 years, 9 months ago

this is why we should promote sterilization

Jeff Kilgore 8 years, 9 months ago

I think that after reading all the comments, it's safe to say that no one has a complete handle on this illness. Here are some suggestions: Realize that 1) there will be wildly differing ideas about this flu 2) some aren't sure it's a flu. 3) there is a good debate about what to call it 4) sufferers will have different symptoms 5) treatment will differ from doctor to doctor 6) treatment will differ from hospital to hospital 7) crackpots will claim many types of conspiracies--thereby offering mutual cancellation of truth 8) we live in instantaneous communication 9) journalism ain't what it used to be 10) the world is increasingly complicated 11) our nation is, on the whole, about as smart or dumb as it's ever been and

12) it's just a few weeks until football season so. . . 13) I will take any tickets of those season ticket holders who are afraid to go to any of KU's home games.

bearded_gnome 8 years, 9 months ago

TT-girl, human trials of two different H1N1 vaccine protocols was started in Australia in July, the U.S. a couple weeks ago. these will render data before time for people to get the shots.

I agree with you in that we need to be concerned and avoid just blindly taking what the government/authorities give us. this is, for most people, far less than a life threatening flu. the ordinary annual flu kills far far more people, and especially among the usually identified groups of particularly vulnerable like seniors and people with chronic health problems (like me).
H1N1 does not fit the usual calendar for the flu, and it aflicts young/healthy people. often those who get the sickest with it were not among the usual vulnerable groups.
there will be a risk profile for the H1N1 vaccine, and we'll have it in about three weeks it looks like. I seriously doubted that they'd be able to pull this off by october. apparently they will. now, the millions of doses are being mass produced before completion of the human trials.

TT-Girl, I'm not getting an H1N1 vaccine shot until those trials are done.

7) crackpots will claim many types of conspiracies—thereby offering mutual cancellation of truth

---Maniac, you always say you ignore my posts, even as you respond to them...thanks for reading.

yes I'm quite familiar with nanotechnology, molecular motors, etc.
however, for your conspiracy and that of the blogger I linked to to work, there'd have to be a huge conspiracy involving literally tens of thousands of people.
the Watergate conspiracy had maybe a dozen people in on it, and that sure didn't hold very long. yes, people manipulate data all the time, including data that proports to support manmade global warming, but because somebody over there manipulated data, because of something unrelated that the government did, it is an epic stretch to say that shows how there could be tiny microchips in the vaccines for mind control.

furthermore, I am actually far more educated than 99% of the american public on neurology, mind, brain, etc., and I can tell you without reservation that anybody who claims they can put a device into a brain and control somebody is so full of bunkum it is just silly!
you'd be much better trying to do hypnosis. individually, that'll often work. you maybe can pull off autosuggestion on a group. but you don't need sci/fi microchips to do the hypnosis! LMAO.

at best, the microchips-doing-mind-control is just that: sci/fi. we can't even build that! and may never be able to.

MrBojangles 8 years, 9 months ago

Awwww man. Now I have to stop eating bacon for a few weeks. Don't want to contribute to the spread of the pig flu.

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