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Health care reform a key concern as Moore addresses chamber of commerce audience

Bill Tuttle, a retired professor of American studies with Kansas University, points to the Speer farmstead Tuesday as he gives a tour of the Murphy-Bromelsick House to U.S. Rep. Dennis Moore, D-Kan. Moore has been working with local leaders like Tuttle to secure federal funding for various historical renovation projects including St. Luke’s A.M.E. Church. Moore visited the site before speaking at the Lawrence Chamber of Commerce’s 2009 National Congressional Series luncheon at Macelli’s.

Bill Tuttle, a retired professor of American studies with Kansas University, points to the Speer farmstead Tuesday as he gives a tour of the Murphy-Bromelsick House to U.S. Rep. Dennis Moore, D-Kan. Moore has been working with local leaders like Tuttle to secure federal funding for various historical renovation projects including St. Luke’s A.M.E. Church. Moore visited the site before speaking at the Lawrence Chamber of Commerce’s 2009 National Congressional Series luncheon at Macelli’s.

August 25, 2009

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Moore fields more health care reform questions

U.S. Rep. Dennis Moore fielded more questions from concerned citizens regarding health care reform Tuesday. Moore's public meeting covered a wide variety of topics. Enlarge video

Fielding health care reform questions from Lawrence business leaders and elected officials Tuesday, Rep. Dennis Moore indicated he would settle for a public health insurance option.

Although the six-term Lenexa Democrat also referred to the public option as “not his first choice” but likely the one most members of Congress will look to as part of a major health care overhaul.

“I think there has to be some competition with some of the private insurance industry organizations, and (a public option) is not my first choice,” said Moore, whose district includes eastern Lawrence. “I’d rather have private. I think we’ve got to have some competition, too.”

Moore spoke to 150 people at Maceli’s as part of the Lawrence Chamber of Commerce’s 2009 National Congressional Series. A majority of the written questions addressed the issues surrounding health care reform.

Moore said it was too early to see what plans can pass both the House and Senate, but he said controlling health costs and the federal deficit should be the major aim for reform.

As for ways to raise revenue to pay for it, Moore said a tax on soda probably wouldn’t raise that much money.

When one person from the crowd asked if he supported a a surtax on couples that earn more than $350,000, Moore said he preferred not to raise taxes during a recession but wanted to leave all options on the table.

“That’s not my first choice by any means, but we need to see what the final product is, what it’s going to provide for in terms of health care reform for our country and what it’s going to cost,” he said.

Inside, the crowd was friendly and respectful. Outside, eight protesters stood with signs.

Moore said two weeks ago that he would not appear at town hall-style meetings after his office received two threats. During the current recess, some angry crowds have greeted some members of Congress.

A spokeswoman said the group outside Maceli’s represented the Kansas 9-12 Project and the November Patriots.

“I’d really like to go to a town hall meeting, but he isn’t having one,” said Sharon Evans, of Roeland Park.

Evans said she was worried Congress would enact a public option as part of the health care overhaul because it could drive private insurance companies out of business and lead to just a government-run option.

Moore said he was confident he gained enough feedback during the recess on the issue by taking calls and meetings with smaller groups.

“I think we can have our honest differences. I don’t expect people to agree with me all the time, but we should at least be civil and respectful in our differences,” he said.

Comments

KsTwister 5 years, 3 months ago

Actually, the insurance companies and pharmaceutical stranglehold they have on the USA should cause more alarm then it is. Their prices,their options,their huge profits and they think they are entitled to every dime. Which is kind of sad when you consider it was taxpayers money that buildt up their companies to begin with. Greed at its finest. Right now many of the medicaid programs are going bankrupt in many states, which is understandable when insurance companies are bilking them for more then the amount of costs the people with assistance are getting for taxpayer dollars. Take a look at their bottom line and I think you will get a very good idea. A limit on profits would be a great start with these companies (AIG being one;just to ring a bell) .

FreshAirFanatic 5 years, 3 months ago

Twister...Stranglehold? Seems like the drug industry got a pretty sweet deal to come on board. All done in a backroom with zero transparency.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2009/aug/14/obamacares-backroom-deal/print/

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=111766647

Ed...Answer this hypothetical. You must purchase a piece of fruit today. It's required. In front of you are 3 different oranges that cost $1 each and an apple that costs $.50. Which one would you pick? Now pretend everyone in America has to make the same decision. You think the orange farmers would be in business long?

KS 5 years, 3 months ago

Moore says he would "settle" for a public option? This guy is a joke. Does he think we just got off the boat? Moore has to go next election.

skinny 5 years, 3 months ago

A recent poll showed that 83% of the general public did not want Health Care Reform.

Pretty much says it all!

situveux1 5 years, 3 months ago

A lot of things aren't his "first option" but he never seems very interested in telling us what his "first option" is.

LiberalDude 5 years, 3 months ago

That is B.S. skinny. No legitimate poll shows that. Most polls show that Americans are overwhelmingly in support of health care reform and the public option.

LiberalDude 5 years, 3 months ago

edjayhawk- Evans isn't a victom of the far-right propaganda machine... she is a part of the machine.

The November Patriots are a front group for the evil, conservative group Americans For Prosperity which is basically run by rightwing corporate lobbyists.

dkc04 5 years, 3 months ago

Dennis Moore is acting poorly and I hope the voters see him for the coward he is when he won't take the time to listen to the folks who elected him too office.

Its good that he showed up to the Lawrence Chamber event where it cost 15.00 for a member and 20.00 for a non-member to attend. But he needs to have town hall meetings open to the average citizen in his district. So that he can here from his loyal voters who have returned him too Washington perhaps one time too many. Frankly I am really saddened that he feals that his safety is threatend by the citizens of Douglas and Johnson County.

Dennis does not want to face the facts tha his nothing more then a Democratic party shill who votes whatever Nancy Pelosi tells him to vote. His agenda appears to have become a one that is not of heartland values that most Kansans have.

Scheduling no town hall meetings sends a message loud and clear that Dennis has checked out of Kansas and no longer cares about what is right for America.

Last October at Johnson County Community College he was running scared like a deer with a light in his eyes when his opponent Nick Jorden almost did a TKO on Moore's dynasty in DC.
Well Dennis you need to either start talking with and for your constituants in your district and be sent home to Overland Park and you sit in your rocking chair playing your guitar.
Hit the radio shows. Chris Stigall has invited you on his show. Schedule some town halls in your district. We are Kansans and very proud folks. We are not Thugs. There are no thugs in Lawrence or Johnson County. If you can't take the heat then its time for you to let somebody else who can represent our district step up.

Our district needs a leader to step up and you seem to be a follower of the far left these day.

overthemoon 5 years, 3 months ago

toe...I think there were gov't student loans before there were private ones. 30 years ago I got thru college on scholarships, grants and loans, and the loans were all NDSL...national direct student loans. No banks involved, unless they were underwriting in the back ground.

Terry Jacobsen 5 years, 3 months ago

Liberaldude wrote: That is B.S. skinny. No legitimate poll shows that. Most polls show that Americans are overwhelmingly in support of health care reform and the public option.

Hmmm... funny I haven't been able to find any of those legitimate polls.... But I can tell you that everyone I meet, including my liberal friends who voted for Mr. Obama are expressing real concern over his stand on this issue. People were very upset with President Bush and his deficit spending. I don't see that anything has changed, except that we are spending at an even faster pace.

Gareth Skarka 5 years, 3 months ago

Actually, TJ, you're full of it. If you can't find it, you're not looking. Here, I'll help.

Here's a poll by the conservative business research organization EBRI (Employee Benefits Research Institute) -- which was bankrolled by opponents of the reform, including American Express, Blue Cross Blue Shield Association, Buck Consultants, Chevron, Deere & Company, IBM, Mercer, National Rural Electric Cooperative Association, Principal Financial Group, Schering-Plough Corp., Shell Oil Company, The Commonwealth Fund, and Towers Perrin.

Funny thing, though -- the poll discovered that eighty-three percent of Americans favor and only 14 percent oppose “creating a new public health insurance plan that anyone can purchase.”

Oops.

Read for yourself (poll in PDF): http://www.ebri.org/pdf/briefspdf/EBRI_IB_7-2009_HCS_09.pdf

Gareth Skarka 5 years, 3 months ago

"Evans said she was worried Congress would enact a public option as part of the health care overhaul because it could drive private insurance companies out of business and lead to just a government-run option."

Sharon Evans and the rest of the 9-12 dipsticks have obviously never heard of FedEx and UPS... We're still waiting for those to be driven out of business by the government-run Post Office.....

KS 5 years, 3 months ago

Both Fed Ex and UPS are hurting right now. It's the economy, stupid. If you use the Post Office as an example of competition, then I suggest that what is happening to them (heaps of red ink) will also happen to a public option healthcare plan. Just what we don't need. More government red ink. Not a very good comparison for BHO to use at one of his recent campaign stops. Now you know why he uses the teleprompter. When are you folks going to wake up and smell the coffee and realize someone has to pay for this crap. There is no such thing as a free lunch or free healthcare, You left wing folks are just going to have to go out and either find or create a job. Freedom is not free.

LiberalDude 5 years, 3 months ago

Here is another recent healthcare poll TJ- http://www.surveyusa.com/client/PollReport.aspx?g=5ba17aa2-f1b9-4445-a6b8-62b9d1ba8693

TJ- I don't think your friends know what they are talking about. Bush and the GOP increased the deficit to never before seen amounts because their Iraq War disaster cost so much. Obama and Dem's plan will increase the deficit in the short term on something that will actually help the American people- healthcare! That is a huge difference TJ!

skinny 5 years, 3 months ago

200 turn out in Wamego to oppose health care plan

dkc04 5 years, 3 months ago

Where is Dennis? He canceled his on JOCO program at Cleveland College in Sept.

Why won't Dennis meet with the people in his district in a townhall meeting!

lee66049 5 years, 3 months ago

I seriously giggle when I read anyone in favor of the government overhauling health care. What government program would you like them to model your health care after? Education? CIA? INS? Medicade? Which would you like? They are all mismanaged. LOL

lee66049 5 years, 3 months ago

Edjawhawk, care to site a recent independent poll that backs up your claim? Don't bother looking at Rassmussen...it is not there.

bellamber 5 years, 3 months ago

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clarkentsman 5 years, 3 months ago

beobachter (Anonymous) says… toe, explain why driving these blood suckers out of business is bad.

honest question beobachter

lets say that we get health reform and it drives these blood suckers out of business - who will provide us insurance on our homes and life insurance?

Or would health care reform not effect these segments of the insurance market?

Just wondering how it would effect my other insurance.

Gareth Skarka 5 years, 3 months ago

Apparently, Conservatards can't read.

Links to polls (from conservative groups, even, so you don't have to read 'none a' that-there liberal edumacated hi-falutin' infermations') have been provided.

Nobody is talking about FREE health care. What is spoken of is a government run insurance program (like TriCare, currently offered to servicemen, their families, and veterans), AS AN OPTION for those who want to pay for it. Insurance that wouldn't be linked to being provided by an employer, or barred by preexisting conditions.

Really, folks. It's a no-brainer. Stop believing the "I got mine, everyone else can screw themselves" Republican BS.

skinny 5 years, 3 months ago

Gareth, Where do you think the Trillion plus to pay for this is going to come from?

It's not going to happen, get used to it!!

The majority of the people want no part of a government run heath care system.

Gareth Skarka 5 years, 3 months ago

...and skinny shows up to prove my point.

"Where do you think the Trillion plus to pay for this is going to come from?"

The public option does not cost Trillions -- that's the estimated cost of the entire reform. But regardless -- where was all this fiscal concern when Bush and Cheney were running up multiple trillions to pay for the entirely needless Iraq war, and the largest expansion of government in decades, including the creation of an entirely new department? Not a peep from any of you.

"It's not going to happen, get used to it!!"

Yeah, I'm sure that the minority in the Congress and Senate, without enough votes to filibuster or block a reconciliation vote -- not to mention the extremely minor 28% or less of the population that still identifies as Republican -- will manage to block it. Sure, sparky.

"The majority of the people want no part of a government run heath care system."

You mean apart from the 83% that even a conservative group showed ( in a poll that was funded by people trying to kill the reform effort ) were in favor of it.

Again -- try reading something. The link to the poll is in the comments above.

Gareth Skarka 5 years, 3 months ago

...and, while I'm thinking about it:

Skinny wrote: "“The majority of the people want no part of a government run heath care system.”"

Then you have the option of not taking part in it. What part of "option" is too difficult for you to grasp?

The gov-run portion is a small part of the overall reform -- an Option, for those who choose to use it. Don't like it? Fine -- nobody says you have to.

KansasVoter 5 years, 3 months ago

skinny (Anonymous) says… "The majority of the people want no part of a government run heath care system."

You keep saying that, but it's just not true. The majority of Americans do want health care reform and they would be happy with a government run system. The only people who don't want that are people who work for insurance companies and the republican politicians that they own.

Centerville 5 years, 3 months ago

There has already been a big town hall in the 3rd District, heavily publicized, open to the public, well-attended and informative....with Rep Todd Tiahrt.

ralphralph 5 years, 3 months ago

Dennis the Dip ... only "meets" with people who agree with him, and will "settle" for what the DC politicians want, instead of what his constituents want. Dump the Dip.

LogicMan 5 years, 3 months ago

"There has already been a big town hall in the 3rd District, heavily publicized, open to the public, well-attended and informative….with Rep Todd Tiahrt."

Seems like if there were announced, strong candidates (D, R, and/or L) that will be opposing Moore, now would be a great time to be campaigning and fundraising. Moore might then quickly change his mind about not having town hall meetings with the voters.

By any side, taking questions only by written, possibly prescreened cards (or independently read aloud for accuracy) sure smacks as un-American to this distant observer.

Ernest Barteldes 5 years, 3 months ago

There you go. A congressman who will swim against the current. You know, you cant trust polls, as they are mostly emotional. What if LBJ had listened to the public opinion when he enacted Voting Rights? The Old South would most likely still be denying minorities the right to vote.

Richard Heckler 5 years, 3 months ago

Go To: http://www.healthcare-now.org/hr-676/

Politicians,medical insurance industry,the media and others opposed to practical,fiscally responsible,fiscally conservative and the most comprehensive medical insurance ever presented to consumers are playing the USA public for fools. http://www.opensecrets.org/news/2009/06/diagnosis-reform.html

What increases the cost of medical insurance? high dollar medical insurance spending on what 2,000 health insurers add to the actual cost of insurance: • its bureaucracy • profits • high corporate salaries • advertising over charges • sales commissions • Shareholders ! are the primary clients of for-profit insurance companies, not patients • Special interest campaign dollars Golden parachutes Politicians as shareholders: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/06/12/AR2009061204075.html

What will HR 676 and ONLY HR 676 Eliminate? Go To: http://www.healthcare-now.org/hr-676/ Eliminates high dollar medical insurance spending on what 2,000 health insurers add to the actual cost of medical insurance: • its bureaucracy • profits • high corporate salaries • advertising over charges • sales commissions • Shareholders ! are the primary clients of for-profit insurance companies, not patients • Special interest campaign dollars • Golden parachutes

*Eliminates Leading Cause Of Bankruptcy http://www.consumeraffairs.com/news04/2005/bankruptcy_study.html#ixzz0IQKZLHHh&C

Go To: http://www.healthcare-now.org/hr-676/

Richard Heckler 5 years, 3 months ago

BUT Dennis Moore did not describe the public option .....

HR 676 would be the best choice because funding is already available.

The U.S. health insurance system is typically characterized as a largely private-sector system, so it may come as a surprise that more than 60% of the $2 trillion annual U.S. health insurance bill is paid through taxes which comes to $1.2 trillion. $1.2 trillion is a sweet gravy train for the industry.

Under HR 676 those $1.2 trillion medical insurance tax dollars would fund HR 676 without necessarily raising taxes. This money is budgeted so let's use it differently and more efficiently. Yes use this money to fund Medicare Insurance For All.

Health Care in the United States | Dollars & Sense http://www.dollarsandsense.org/healthcare.html

Go To: http://www.healthcare-now.org/hr-676/

Richard Heckler 5 years, 3 months ago

Fear : Health reform will let faceless government bureaucrats come between you and your doctor.

Fact: Private health insurance already comes between you and your doctor. And because each company sets its own rules, it's hard to imagine a more bureaucratic system.

Some insurers decide which doctors you can see, which hospitals you can visit, and what drugs you can take and still be covered.

And they may require copious paperwork before approving a treatment you and your doctor want.

Health-care reform would standardize claim procedures to cut down on all of that. And it would protect you from other abuses, like being rejected for coverage or paying exorbitant premiums if you get sick.

Consumer Reports

Richard Heckler 5 years, 3 months ago

Fear : Health reform will be too costly; it will raise your taxes and could even bankrupt the country.

Fact : The real threat to your finances is the health system the U.S. has now. A recent study concluded that today's $2.4 trillion annual health-care tab would jump to $4.4 trillion by 2018 if nothing is done to rein in expenses.

Consumers Union thinks reform is the best hope for getting costs under control.

It would cut down on waste, overhead, and price gouging, and reduce inappropriate care and preventable errors.

We fully understand why some people are apprehensive about reform: Any change is scary. But we also see the shameful damage caused by the current system.

Americans deserve better than this, and can have it.

Consumer Reports

beawolf 5 years, 3 months ago

"Americans deserve better than this, and can have it."..

This is what truly puzzles me. There has to be a better way, but nobody wants to sit down and work it out. It would take a tremendous amount of time, energy and reconciliation between the parties, but they will never see reality through their red and blue tinted glasses.

boltzmann 5 years, 3 months ago

Please don't be fooled. This is just part of Dennis Moore's long-term plan to steal your lupins.

Damn, now I've got that song in my head again,,,,,

Bassetlover 5 years, 3 months ago

I'm done with Dennis Moore. His refusal to meet in town hall forums with those he represents speaks volumes about his character and intentions. Even Claire McC hasn't been afraid to put herself in the line of fire with the countless forums in which she has appeared during this recess. What a wuss.

funmoney 5 years, 3 months ago

OMG, old Dennis has come out from under his desk, poor thing. Tell me, what kind of security detail did he have in place? (what with the threat that someone supposedly made). He is a brave man, to go before the Lawrence C of C. Did he have goons on either side like Calypso Louie Farrakhan uses? Were you all allowed to have knives included in your place settings? Such perilous times for those elected to serve us, probably will be passing a bill for hazardous duty pay. Talk to Cleaver, he would be all for it.

Dennis Moore is arrogant, out of touch, acts smarter than everyone else and he will fail next year in his re-election attempt. He has hitched his wagon to the worst administration in the history of this country and he is going to ride it down with Mr. Soetero and many other dems. The dems had it all and this is the best they can do.

Also, thank goodness for free speech and those that went before us to protect this right. Incidentally, that right actually appears in the Constitution, but I am having trouble finding the section on universal healthcare, so please advise as to where I can find that section. My copy might have been prepared by the same folks that did up Barry's fake birth certificate. There are some big sections missing apparently. Photoshop can be fun!

Richard Heckler 5 years, 3 months ago

Study: Health Industry Accounts for Half of Blue Dog Campaign Donations

A new study shows more than half of the $1.1 million in campaign donations given to the group of right-leaning Democrats known as the Blue Dog Coalition came from the pharmaceutical, healthcare and health insurance industries.

The Center for Public Integrity says the Blue Dogs received more donations than any other congressional grouping over the same period.

On average, the Blue Dogs received over $62,000 more from the health industry than other Democrats.

The Blue Dogs have played a key role in the standstill over healthcare reform since voicing objections to a public health insurance option last month.

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