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New idea for LHS press box floated

The school board gave Lawrence schools the go ahead to build press boxes at the new LHS football stadium.

August 18, 2009

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The Lawrence school board gave the district administration the go-ahead to explore what it will take to build press boxes at both Lawrence High School and Free State High School at their special business meeting Monday night.

The first press box plan listed the estimated cost for LHS at $370,000, which included $40,000 for a crane to lift a pre-fabricated building onto stilts. The latest idea would include four brick walls, which would look similar to the bleachers, and would be built on-site. It would also include storage beneath the press box and an elevator to be compliant with the Americans with Disabilities Act. This latest plan would cost closer to $270,000.

“This is just getting drawn up today so we don’t have bids,” said Frank Harwood, the district’s chief operations officer. “We’re going to at least approach the (current) contractors who are doing the contracts as an option with a change order.”

By completing a change order instead of the usual bid process, the work could potentially be done faster. But getting outside bids isn’t out of the question.

“We’ll sacrifice the time it takes to get a better price,” Harwood said.

Goal setting

The board met for three hours Monday afternoon to conduct a goal-setting session. Superintendent Rick Doll had each board member compile ideas they would like to discuss, ranging from staff development and facilities to school configuration and technology.

“We would have the four to seven big ideas and then you would turn us loose to go back with staff and put all of the benchmarks in defining that,” Doll said.

The board will get information on some of the topics they discussed at future meetings.

The board will not meet Aug. 24. Its next meeting will be Sept. 14.

Comments

barrypenders 4 years, 8 months ago

$300,000 would buy a nice home for a progressive needy family in west Lawrence. That is, if progressive people call them, family?

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Flap Doodle 4 years, 8 months ago

Worth repeating: • jkealing (Jonathan Kealing) says… bronze- I've warned you privately, now I'll warn you publicly. You do not have bearded_gnome's name correct. If you don't immediately cease to attempt to out an anonymous user, your account will be banned. In addition, I will immediately ban any account I suspect to be created by you without notice, warning or further cause. This is your final warning. Jonathan Kealing Online editor

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bearded_gnome 4 years, 8 months ago

oh and Marioni has such a track record of honest reporting, and truthtelling! my gawd, why don't we lay down and believe him, while casting our worshipful offerings at his sainted feet???


again, Marioni claims expertise where he has none: the law; building trades; arky-tek-ture.

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Marion Lynn 4 years, 8 months ago

The school district is begging for "revisions" to the original settlement agreemnt.

Ask around if you doubt me.

LJW; past time to go to work on this and tell the truth!

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svenway_park 4 years, 8 months ago

This is so funny. Marion channeling for someone who has booted from these boards 7,8,9 times? This is the LJW poster boy for forums?

This reminds me of all the "behinds the scenes" discussions when the suit was originally settled, which the area Arky-Teck ardently repeatedly fought, while never acknowledging the same here, then claiming a victory of some type on the settlement. Ha.

Now he complains about parking, and argues for an interpretation which would diminish the parking relief the neighborhood receives, and then he complains about increased cost?

Marion interjects all sorts of intrigue? Because this Wyco boy knows about CNA?

By all means, lets get this lawsuit opened back up. Quickly. I'm all for it. Who is your attorney, oregano boy? What are you going to pay him with? Didn't think so.

Or even better yet, oregano-ArkyTech ought to consider paying those property taxes for his momma on his house

Maybe this ought to be a requirement for him suing the community and such, spending even more tax money.

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Pilgrim2 4 years, 8 months ago

cath0830 (Anonymous) says…

If they're going to build this freaking stone monstrosity, they'd better do it right. I haven't seen a single dirt compactor out there for those mounds that the brick is sitting on. Guess what? dirt settles. Meaning an even faster deterioration of the foundation the brick sits on, meaning the brick structure will fail faster.


Guess what? Letting the bricks sit on top of the mounds is another method of getting the required compaction. It doesn't have to be "mechanical."

Maybe you need to ask for your money back on those geotechnical engineering courses.

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bearded_gnome 4 years, 8 months ago

LJWorld admin, Jonathan et al, tonight I received my first harrassing PM from the former Bronze now calling himself 'driedoregano.'

why is he still on here?

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Marion Lynn 4 years, 8 months ago

Marion reprints:

"cath0830 (Anonymous) says…

If they're going to build this freaking stone monstrosity, they'd better do it right. I haven't seen a single dirt compactor out there for those mounds that the brick is sitting on. Guess what? dirt settles. Meaning an even faster deterioration of the foundation the brick sits on, meaning the brick structure will fail faster.

For anyone who doesn't know, brick repairs are way more expensive than standard metal bleachers. But I doubt anyone looked at the cost of upkeep for these places. They didn't do an entire cost analysis based on their plans. Just a surface cost analysis.

I lived on the east coast for years, never saw anything like this, and not for nothing, there's a lot more competition in the North east for people than there is here, especially when you're talking about an area between Boston and NYC . I also have lived in the home of the Championship football team for the whole state of GA (for multiple years in a row). Guess what? they didn't have a press box, or brick seating.

So glad I'm leaving here next year."

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cath0830 4 years, 8 months ago

If they're going to build this freaking stone monstrosity, they'd better do it right. I haven't seen a single dirt compactor out there for those mounds that the brick is sitting on. Guess what? dirt settles. Meaning an even faster deterioration of the foundation the brick sits on, meaning the brick structure will fail faster.

For anyone who doesn't know, brick repairs are way more expensive than standard metal bleachers. But I doubt anyone looked at the cost of upkeep for these places. They didn't do an entire cost analysis based on their plans. Just a surface cost analysis.

I lived on the east coast for years, never saw anything like this, and not for nothing, there's a lot more competition in the North east for people than there is here, especially when you're talking about an area between Boston and NYC . I also have lived in the home of the Championship football team for the whole state of GA (for multiple years in a row). Guess what? they didn't have a press box, or brick seating.

So glad I'm leaving here next year.

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Marion Lynn 4 years, 8 months ago

On yet another note, why are two of the school board members ready to break off negotiations with the affected homeowners?

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bearded_gnome 4 years, 8 months ago

because that elected body either concealed information or failed to exercise due diligence?

---again, who relies on Marioni for 'due diligence?'

note, ranting across many threads, dozens of individual posts, Marioni said there would be no night games!
now, in his posts here he says that there will be night games.

yes, Marioni is wrong. yes, Marioni is full of hot air.

and laughable, he implies that there's some backroom chatter regarding himself and DO/the former bronze. no such backroom chatter happens, just more of his delusions of grandeur.


'Driedoregano'/former bronze/cool/et al, what the heck does that post have to do with anything? Raines profited bigtime, dozens of millions of dollars off of Fannie Mae in the subprime crisis. he was/is a major supporter/advisor/friend of Barack Obama.

are you bringing that up here to try to distract from your own failures?

you know, you have failed. we all know who you are. you will get TOSsed off. your lawsuit has been shown to be dras.

why should the neighbors have any more say on this project than I do? or Svenway, or the little old lady that lives out west off of Wakarusa?

what you did succeed at was extortion Bronzie. you cost the USD497 way over $10,000 in the actual lawsuit costs. you forced many tens of thousands of dollars of frivolous extra costs on the lhs field project.
you objected that there wasn't enough parking, then you objected to moving the tennis center to make more parking!

we haven't discussed the lights here yet. you objected to the tennis center in its new location actually having lights.

you wanted there to be no lights at the new tennis center. why? because of where your mother's property backs up to the school's.
you would deny tennis players the opportunity to play at night.

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Marion Lynn 4 years, 8 months ago

You know, I'm wondering if I am so wrong, why are the school board memebers sending iheir lawyers to negotiate modifications to the settlement agreement?

Why has the school district approved any number of revisions to the design of the "practice field" without public notification?

I am told that the changes add someplace North of $150K to the cost of the project, not including the pressboxes.

Whatup?

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Marion Lynn 4 years, 8 months ago

I think that a few of the Centennial homeowners should apply for inclusion to the National Register as there are houses there which qualify.

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Flap Doodle 4 years, 8 months ago

Dang, the geek's going through a lot of chickens today.

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Katara 4 years, 8 months ago

Marion (Marion Lynn) says… The folks in Centennial might have to take out second mortgages just to pay the postal bill! ~~~~~~~~~~~~ While you and your buddy, driedoregano, contribute nothing.

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Marion Lynn 4 years, 8 months ago

Hmmmmm................

I suspect that snap may have been astride ironhorse when ironhorse escaped the pasture and that maybe locoweed is not the choice.

They may both be "ridin' that train"!

You know; the one on which the fireman screams and the engine just gleams?

LOL!

Interesting how virtually any thread I post on is made to be all about "ME" instead of the original subject matter and it ain't "ME" that does it.

Should tell you something.

Oh!

You know, discovery would come before depositions normally and this afternoon I had a sort of vision of like three guys pushing grocery carts full of USPS Priority Mail envelopes with tracking numbers to the post office, which envelopes had been sent to the literally hundreds of people who might be eligible to receive them.

My Goodness; My Guinness!

The folks in Centennial might have to take out second mortgages just to pay the postal bill!

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Katara 4 years, 8 months ago

Oh great, Marion's passing around legal advice again.

How'd that bid for getting the case against the dog thrown out for unconstitutionality work out for you?

How'd that bid for getting the smoking ban in Lawrence removed for unconstitutionality work out for you?

And now, here's Marion spouting off about legalities of a school district in a town in which he is not a resident of, has no children (or grandchildren) attending and pretty much has no vested interest in any outcome from any decision said school district would make.

Why don't you focus on improving the area in which you live instead of meddling in the affairs of a town in which you have nothing in?

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svenway_park 4 years, 8 months ago

I wonder how that "wildlife preserve" is going that driedoregano promised to install in his backyard.

And I wonder how many new non native species he has inventively seen?

I wonder if this gets him off the property tax list? You know, the taxes the rest of us pay to support the schools and the community?

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svenway_park 4 years, 8 months ago

Goodness. It looks like the driedoregano Arky-teck and his wyco bff Marion are having some posts removed.

Such thin skin.

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svenway_park 4 years, 8 months ago

Marion writes:. . . .they'd better hope something floats in this deal!


I know something that floats, but I don't think Arky-Teck wants Marion's boo-boos floating on top of his Kentucky bluegrass.

Yea Marion, lots of people to deposition. Go tell Arky-Teck to re-open the case. Lies and hot air is all the two of you have.

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pretentiouscow 4 years, 8 months ago

maybe you should invite him to "step off"...

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Marion Lynn 4 years, 8 months ago

Looks as though ironhorse may have gotten out of the pasture and into the locoweed.

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ironhorse66 4 years, 8 months ago

You entered: marion sidney lynn There are 16 letters in your name. Those 16 letters total to 85 There are 5 vowels and 11 consonants in your name.

What your first name means:. Hebrew Female Variant of Mary: Wished-for child; rebellion; bitter.

...whoda thunkit?

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ironhorse66 4 years, 8 months ago

This comment was removed by the site staff for violation of the usage agreement.

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Marion Lynn 4 years, 8 months ago

svenway_park (Anonymous) says…

"Get “arky-teks” mom ready too. Because she is a plaintiff, he is not. I am sure she will wanted for some depositions. Oh, and “arky-tek” son will have a few hours of those too."

Marion writes:

Interesting that you mention depositions.

There are only seven plaintiffs of record who can be deposed but potentially hundreds of individual parties in the defendant class who could be deposed; all school board members, any and all school district employees, Randy Weseman and Mary Rodriguez, both of whom were in on the deal at the start, everyone at Landplan because Landplan is the architect of record, employees of the contsruction companies involved because the school district contracted with them...............

The list of potential doposees goes on...................

Yeah!

Depositions could be fun!

When do you suppose they will start?

I wonder if so many people could keep the story straight?

Yeah.

Depsistions.

I really, really like that idea!

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Flap Doodle 4 years, 8 months ago

Been

wearing

your

blackhat

uptown

lately

,

bub

?

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Marion Lynn 4 years, 8 months ago

Newell_Post (Anonymous) says…

A floating pressbox? Is that what they are going to do now? Maybe that would work! Have everybody board the pressbox on the ground and then have it just sort of float up into the air by levitation or suspended from hot air balloons. They have plenty of hot air, alright."

Marion writes:

On the other hand, since this entire stadium/practice field thing is kind of like a leaky old boat, they'd better hope something floats in this deal!

Maybe they could put the pressboxes on Magic Carpets and shout out, "Sim, Sim, Saaldin!" when they need them to go up!

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ironhorse66 4 years, 8 months ago

my god! how much FACT do you need?

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Marion Lynn 4 years, 8 months ago

I suppose the preceeding post makes a much sense as some of the drivel posted by those who do not deal in facts but rather only personal attacks on the messenger!

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Flap Doodle 4 years, 8 months ago

Worth repeating: "• jkealing (Jonathan Kealing) says… bronze- I've warned you privately, now I'll warn you publicly. You do not have bearded_gnome's name correct. If you don't immediately cease to attempt to out an anonymous user, your account will be banned. In addition, I will immediately ban any account I suspect to be created by you without notice, warning or further cause. This is your final warning. Jonathan Kealing Online editor"

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Newell_Post 4 years, 8 months ago

A floating pressbox? Is that what they are going to do now? Maybe that would work! Have everybody board the pressbox on the ground and then have it just sort of float up into the air by levitation or suspended from hot air balloons. They have plenty of hot air, alright.

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svenway_park 4 years, 8 months ago

driedoregano: Q: What do Fannie Mae or Raines have to do with your non-ownership of your home. A: nothing

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svenway_park 4 years, 8 months ago

Marion telling us again about the law.......

OK Marion, you and your driedoregano "arky-tek" friend go down and use your joint legal-beagle minds to argue 'material breach'

Let's re-open that lawsuit today! it won't be whoop-ass. It will be fun. Especially since it is baseless.

Get "arky-teks" mom ready too. Because she is a plaintiff, he is not. I am sure she will wanted for some depositions. Oh, and "arky-tek" son will have a few hours of those too.

Oh, and you two will have to find the money to finance this Quixote quest. Better get out in the CNA neighborhood and lie to the neighbors yet again.

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driedoregano 4 years, 8 months ago

2004 years before the 'crash'

On Wednesday, when Fannie Mae CEO Franklin Raines appeared before a House subcommittee to address allegations that he and his finance team had cooked the mortgage giant's books, he had three choices: One, he could do what other CEOs have done—take the Fifth (a prudent legal tactic, even for the innocent, albeit wimpy and unsatisfying). Two, he could claim he was shocked to discover that his finance department was staffed by hoodlums (also typical, even less admirable). Three, he could stand behind the accounting, his team, and his company, explain the decisions, and suggest that the allegations were wrong.

Raines chose option No. 3, which increased his personal risk and raised a for-now unanswerable question: Is he the perpetrator of an accounting crime, the target of a political witch hunt, or the victim of an overzealous bureaucracy? The subcommittee collared Raines after Fannie Mae's regulator, the Office of Federal Housing Enterprise Oversight (or OFHEO), published a 211-page diatribe citing a litany of sins: "pervasive and willful" earnings manipulation, lax controls, perverse incentives, unjust bonuses. The press pounced, likening Fannie Mae to Enron, calling for Raines' head. The Securities and Exchange Commission launched an inquiry, the Justice Department a criminal investigation.

After years of scandals, such proceedings would hardly merit mention, except that Fannie Mae is no ordinary company and Raines no ordinary CEO. Created during the Depression to promote mortgage issuance and home ownership, Fannie is now, by one measure, the fourth-largest company in the country. It is also a "government-sponsored enterprise," and, as such, enjoys special privileges that most companies don't have. (Read more about this in "Moneybox".) This cushy status antagonizes Fannie's competitors, who argue, probably justifiably, that the advantage is unfair. Fannie doesn't help matters by paying its executives fat bonuses and hiding behind the universal appeal of its mission, declaring itself "in the American Dream business," and bludgeoning critics as "anti-housing." If Fannie is in the American Dream business, Raines is the American Dream (until a few weeks ago, anyway). He grew up in Seattle, in a household of seven children. When his father lost his job, the 8-year-old Raines worked in a grocery store for $2 a week, and his mother scrubbed bathrooms at Boeing (three decades later, Raines was elected to Boeing's board).

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pretentiouscow 4 years, 8 months ago

let me make sure I understand what you are saying.(btw I am no where close to having the superior mind that you have) how many of us would rush out and... extend credit to a questionable customer? have faith he will pay you "just as soon as I get paid myself"? let it go 30 days? 60 days? 90 days?

then said customer files bankruptcy. you never get paid. customer goes on local website bragging about it. "F-em, I don't care if they ever get paid"

article appears in local paper featuring customer. customer brags about how rich she is and how much money she makes. how many of you would be happy about this?

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Marion Lynn 4 years, 8 months ago

You know, I think maybe the most improtant "material breach" is not the breach of the settlement agreement by the school board but rather the very material breach of public trust by the school board.

How many of you would rush out and buy a product which had only an eight-year warranty for which you had to make payments for ten years, as is being done with the Astroturf?

Howmany of you would sign on for projects whch may total ten milliions dollars, fourteen million dollars or even twenty million dollars, as some have suggested, without knowing for certain what your financial obligations will be?

How many of you would be happy with a professional firm to which had been paid hundreds of thousands of your tax dollars to perform a service, only to have that firm come back and tell you that the original price was wrong and that you get to spend more money because that professional firm either concealed information or failed to exercise due diligence?

How many of you would be happy with an elected body which had agreed to pay out millions of your tax dollars to perform service, construct public facilities and pay professional firms, only to have that elected body come back and tell you that the original price was wrong and that you get to spend more money because that elected body either concealed information or failed to exercise due diligence?

There is more than one material breach here.

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Flap Doodle 4 years, 8 months ago

BTW

,

still

having

a

wonderful

internet

life

.

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Marion Lynn 4 years, 8 months ago

The out patients are here in force this morning, I see.

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pretentiouscow 4 years, 8 months ago

are you sure you understand what your "source" is saying? I am told he is always facing away from you when you converse.

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ironhorse66 4 years, 8 months ago

fact....Marion is wrong. fact....http://www2.ljworld.com/news/2005/sep… fact...the old gal has no dog in this fight

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Flap Doodle 4 years, 8 months ago

Gibber

and

caper

,

litttle

geek

.

You

have

to

entertain

the

crowd

.

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Marion Lynn 4 years, 8 months ago

"Katara (Anonymous) says…

Marion (Marion Lynn) says… Well, snap, it looks more to me like the Bird of Paradise is about to fly up the nose of the school board! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ LOL! Just like your forum was going to rise from the ashes like the Phoenix, eh, Marion?

Fact: Marion Lynn is not a resident of Lawrence, KS.

Fact: Marion Lynn does not have any children that attend USD497.

Fact: Marion Lynn is interfering in the business of a school district that he has absolutely no ties to whatsoever.

Question: What is in it for Marion Lynn?"

Marion writes:

"Marion (Marion Lynn) says…

For those of you who don't think that there isn't some very serious “back-room” discussion going on now, allow me to dispel that notion.

What the pro-school board posters on this thread are saying are things like this:

“Marion is this!”

“Marion is that!'

“Marion some kind of other thing!”

The one thing that they won't say, because they can't is that:

“Marion is wrong!”

I have posted any number of facts and those facts stand undisputed.

Allow me to suggest this:

I think that the school board and all those Shining Happy People who sit on it, are about to get a 55 gallon drum of High Test Legal Whupa** poured over their Shining Happy Heads because the school board is indeed in what the Legalmen call “material breach” of the settlement agreement.

Why should you, as ordinary citizens be concerned?

Because after the homeowners nail the Shining Happy People of the school board to the legal wall, “YOU”, as taxpayers get to pay the settlement and the legal fees of the homeowners, for starters.

In the meantime, I'm going to keep posting with facts and I'm certain that those who have no facts with which to counter my claims will stay busy with the Ad Hominem attacks but that is OK; I'm a Big Boy and have been attacked by professionals and this crowd is far from professional."

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Katara 4 years, 8 months ago

Marion (Marion Lynn) says… Well, snap, it looks more to me like the Bird of Paradise is about to fly up the nose of the school board! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ LOL! Just like your forum was going to rise from the ashes like the Phoenix, eh, Marion?

Fact: Marion Lynn is not a resident of Lawrence, KS.

Fact: Marion Lynn does not have any children that attend USD497.

Fact: Marion Lynn is interfering in the business of a school district that he has absolutely no ties to whatsoever.

Question: What is in it for Marion Lynn?

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Marion Lynn 4 years, 8 months ago

RE:

BG's post.

As I wrote:

"Marion (Marion Lynn) says…

For those of you who don't think that there isn't some very serious “back-room” discussion going on now, allow me to dispel that notion.

What the pro-school board posters on this thread are saying are things like this:

“Marion is this!”

“Marion is that!'

“Marion some kind of other thing!”

The one thing that they won't say, because they can't is that:

“Marion is wrong!”

I have posted any number of facts and those facts stand undisputed.

Allow me to suggest this:

I think that the school board and all those Shining Happy People who sit on it, are about to get a 55 gallon drum of High Test Legal Whupa** poured over their Shining Happy Heads because the school board is indeed in what the Legalmen call “material breach” of the settlement agreement.

Why should you, as ordinary citizens be concerned?

Because after the homeowners nail the Shining Happy People of the school board to the legal wall, “YOU”, as taxpayers get to pay the settlement and the legal fees of the homeowners, for starters.

In the meantime, I'm going to keep posting with facts and I'm certain that those who have no facts with which to counter my claims will stay busy with the Ad Hominem attacks but that is OK; I'm a Big Boy and have been attacked by professionals and this crowd is far from professional."

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bearded_gnome 4 years, 8 months ago

KU_Dude (Anonymous) says…

jkealing (Jonathan Kealing) says…

bronze-

I've warned you privately, now I'll warn you publicly. You do not have bearded_gnome's name correct. If you don't immediately cease to attempt to out an anonymous user, your account will be banned. In addition, I will immediately ban any account I suspect to be created by you without notice, warning or further cause. This is your final warning.

Jonathan Kealing Online editor

–––––

How has driedoregano lasted this long Jonathan?

---well, the other night I bet 'driedoregano' would make it to saturday night.

the countdown continues. it is quite obvious that 'driedoregano' is Bronze/cool/spiderman/ocean/rusty2/ariadne/coltrain/jaguar/et al. he's been TOSsed off at least 8 times before!

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Marion Lynn 4 years, 8 months ago

For those of you who don't think that there isn't some very serious "back-room" discussion going on now, allow me to dispel that notion.

What the pro-school board posters on this thread are saying are things like this:

"Marion is this!"

"Marion is that!'

"Marion some kind of other thing!"

The one thing that they won't say, because they can't is that:

"Marion is wrong!"

I have posted any number of facts and those facts stand undisputed.

Allow me to suggest this:

I think that the school board and all those Shining Happy People who sit on it, are about to get a 55 gallon drum of High Test Legal Whupa** poured over their Shining Happy Heads because the school board is indeed in what the Legalmen call "material breach" of the settlement agreement.

Why should you, as ordinary citizens be concerned?

Because after the homeowners nail the Shining Happy People of the school board to the legal wall, "YOU", as taxpayers get to pay the settlement and the legal fees of the homeowners, for starters.

In the meantime, I'm going to keep posting with facts and I'm certain that those who have no facts with which to counter my claims will stay busy with the Ad Hominem attacks but that is OK; I'm a Big Boy and have been attacked by professionals and this crowd is far from professional.

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Marion Lynn 4 years, 8 months ago

Well, snap, it looks more to me like the Bird of Paradise is about to fly up the nose of the school board!

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Flap Doodle 4 years, 8 months ago

Looks like the grey goose was flying around the junkyard early today.

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KU_Dude 4 years, 8 months ago

jkealing (Jonathan Kealing) says…

bronze-

I've warned you privately, now I'll warn you publicly. You do not have bearded_gnome's name correct. If you don't immediately cease to attempt to out an anonymous user, your account will be banned. In addition, I will immediately ban any account I suspect to be created by you without notice, warning or further cause. This is your final warning.

Jonathan Kealing Online editor


How has driedoregano lasted this long Jonathan?

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svenway_park 4 years, 8 months ago

ironhorse: that would explain a lot. They never left the playground.

Both obviously skipped that class on personal finance.

I thought the Marion was a good decade or so older than the non-arkytek arkytek. But maybe he got held back in elementary school.

I wonder if there was a lot of lead paint chips on that playground.

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Marion Lynn 4 years, 8 months ago

I'd say that we are on the right track here as any time exposing "FACTS" results in death threats, things are going pretty good!

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Clickker 4 years, 8 months ago

Of course, if Fender and his buddy would just write a check for this, the whole thing would go away!!

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ironhorse66 4 years, 8 months ago

svenway oh i know of whom you speak ...all to well. did you know he went to grade school with the old gal?

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Pilgrim2 4 years, 8 months ago

merrill (Anonymous) says…

Lawrence,Kansas the most expensive place to live in Kansas, KCMO Metro/JOCO and Topeka yet Lawrence has a tiny tax base compared to JOCO or Topeka? Why keep up with the Joneses on such a limited income?


That's not the song book you sing from when you talk about sidewalks in your neighborhood or the $4+ million black hole for taxes known as the empTy, Richard.

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Robert Kiefer 4 years, 8 months ago

What do you say when there is nothing left to say? How about "no" That is what I have tell my children when they want something we don't need & more importantly can't afford! would'nt it be nice if someone south of 15th street would just donate the 400k then all the little football children would all be happy!

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Marion Lynn 4 years, 8 months ago

Kinda looks as though some very, very touchy buttons have been pushed and the right buttons at that!

Spinning like tops, some of them now are!

I'd betcha that "Rocky" Bracciano, the Shining Happy People of The School Board and the reps from Landplan will be "caucusing" fairly soon with "Legalman", trying to figure out where settlement and legal fee funds will come from.

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Boston_Corbett 4 years, 8 months ago

Thanks for the spamtracker link on Nick Danger, Ironhorse.

Another link documenting Marion's tactics, methods, and mores.

I mean, we already know about his perverted revisionist views on the Holocaust. Out of his own mouth on this forum, no less.

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svenway_park 4 years, 8 months ago

ironhorse: understood. But I am talking about a situation much more proximate to the athletic fields.

No credit? No home loan. And if you are not a homeowner there, you can not be a member of the CNA neighborhood association.

These two individuals obviously have several things in common.

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ironhorse66 4 years, 8 months ago

svenway- how about this... 1) file bankruptcy 2) come on this site and brag " I'll never pay those people, F-em" 3)years later have LJW article written complete with current picture 4) have numerous creditors see you in a watering hole, drag you outside and beat you to an inch from death.

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svenway_park 4 years, 8 months ago

ironhorse: Did you know that if you declare bankruptcy a couple of times you won't have credit to buy a house and you may need to get a loan from your mother?

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driedoregano 4 years, 8 months ago

maybe a good question for the School District's next future meeting?

The board will not meet Aug. 24. Its next meeting will be Sept. 14.

IF the LJW clarification to its own editorial says that $2.4 million was 'carried over' from the 2005 bond issue and that the current project borrowing is $10 million as reported,

then - how is the new total $14.4 million?

Did Randy Weseman leave us all with an undefined total project cost for these improvements?

maybe LJW should ask what the real project costs are, since these figures do NOT seem to add up.

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driedoregano 4 years, 8 months ago

what?

see above sentence:

The board will get information on some of the topics they discussed at future meetings.

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ironhorse66 4 years, 8 months ago

class...... Class........ CLASS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! be sure to read it all...just an example to let you know what kind of old gal we are dealing with!

http://spamtrackers.eu/wiki/index.php/Spam-court.com

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Marion Lynn 4 years, 8 months ago

"ironhorse66 (Anonymous) says…

did you know that a certain gal that posts here filed bankruptcy and sca-rewed many local people?"

Marion writes:

My, my; you really "ARE" as stupid as I thought!

LOL!

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Marion Lynn 4 years, 8 months ago

class....................

Class..................................

"CLASS ! " .........!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

If I may now direct your attention to Item five, Page Two of the Settlement Agreement which states;

"LPS agrees to install additional landscaping on the above referenced berm, including trees, bushes and grass, in addition to the landscaping currently designated and required along the property line, all of which will be planted prior to the permitted use of the facilities."

Please note:

"....prior to the permitted use of the facilities."

Is not an event scheduled there for 9/4/2009?

I seem to recall something about the entire project being some seventy (70) days behind schedule?

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driedoregano 4 years, 8 months ago

correction to LJW editorial on August 12,

A clarification to this article was published on August 13, by LJW……

“Wednesday's editorial misrepresented the portion of the cost of local public high school athletic field improvements paid for with money left over from a 2005 bond issue.

About $2.4 million left from the bond issue was used for the project that school district officials estimate will have a total cost of “about” $14.4 million.” end of quote / end of clarification by LJW

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ironhorse66 4 years, 8 months ago

did you know that a certain gal that posts here filed bankruptcy and SCA-REWED many local people? that public record can be viewed here: http://www2.ljworld.com/news/2005/sep...

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mom_of_three 4 years, 8 months ago

Well, I can tell you that they would use the press box during track meets at LHS, and maybe the band would even use it during practice (view of the entire stadium for the band director. Heck, maybe a band competition or something could happen.
BTW, the new softball field looks great.

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1moreopinion 4 years, 8 months ago

It appears they have already given the potential contractor an idea of what they are willing to pay. They should get bids before opening there mouth.

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Marion Lynn 4 years, 8 months ago

Well, svenway_park, the berms as being contructed are in material violation of the settlement agreement.

The agreement states that the berms shall be no higher than eight feet tall with a 3 to 1 slope but are being constructed approximately 22 feet high with a terrace covered with concrete blocks.

This is Item Four, Page Two of the agreement.

The Settlement Agreement may be found here:

http://media.lawrence.com/news/documents/2009/01/15/LHS_Settlement.pdf

"Rocky" Bracciano, Harwood, The Shining Happy People of the School Board and Landplan got a lot of 'splainin' to do!

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svenway_park 4 years, 8 months ago

Did you know a particular person passing the original protest petition was not even a member of the neighborhood association and was materially misrepresenting the facts?

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Marion Lynn 4 years, 8 months ago

Did you know that a retired school distrcit employee wanted to sign the protest petition but believed that the school district would find a reason to threaten the associated retirement benefits if the petition was signed?

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Marion Lynn 4 years, 8 months ago

Did you know that shcool district employees were afraid to sign the original protest petition because they were afraid they would lose their jobs?

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honestone 4 years, 8 months ago

Hooooray! This will be so cool. I am certian that the football players will be very excited!. Maybe we can slip in a diamond vision scoreboard so we can see the replays of the last down. I am so glad the school board gave this to us. Screw the other kids. The football players are what makes or breaks a school.

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svenway_park 4 years, 8 months ago

Maybe driedoregano should go door to door once again to beg people to fund a new lawsuit.

Oh, no.... you mean the neighbors have learned he is unreliable as an architect, as an individual, and that they no longer want to fund or rely upon his "arky-tek" opinions?

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driedoregano 4 years, 8 months ago

“We can’t do a lift (at Lawrence High) because it’s too high,” said school district facility planning director Tom Bracciano. “Anything over a certain footage, you need to do an elevator. The reason the cost is so expensive is they have to be accessible.”

too high? guess that was part of the issue with the neighbors - USD probably should have listened to them?

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Richard Heckler 4 years, 8 months ago

Looking for practice fields?? Woody Park. Brookcreek Neighborhood has some fields off Cadet I believe. The city has many parks. Put up a back stop and bingo practice fields right before your very eyes.

Lawrence,Kansas the most expensive place to live in Kansas, KCMO Metro/JOCO and Topeka yet Lawrence has a tiny tax base compared to JOCO or Topeka? Why keep up with the Joneses on such a limited income?

So long as households have plenty of money to burn what difference does it make. Just remember all of those empty homes and retail units that property owners are not paying taxes on.......

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Flap Doodle 4 years, 8 months ago

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Marion Lynn 4 years, 8 months ago

Read this sentence from the article very slowly and carefully:

"The Lawrence school board gave the district administration the go-ahead to explore what it will take to build press boxes at both Lawrence High School and Free State High School at their special business meeting Monday night."

Please note:

"press boxes", not "press box".

That's plural.

Two press boxes.

Also wondering if backup generators might be required for the electrically powered lifts such that the disabled might not be left up in the air, as it were, with no way to evacuate, during a storm or fire caused power failure .

Any of you still think that Landplan and Rocky Bracciano didn't knopw about this?

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svenway_park 4 years, 8 months ago

The house has a lot of dried oregano in it.

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svenway_park 4 years, 8 months ago

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seth5792 4 years, 8 months ago

Pilgrim, that was my whole point.........the busses in question drove empty from 23rd and Kasold and continued north past Louisiana presumedly to there compound up by Harper. All the while passing no more than a few bus stops, and at least easy access to one elementary school.......Again great logistical planning

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driedoregano 4 years, 8 months ago

where is a 'press box donor'?

LJW, anyone?

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parrotuya 4 years, 8 months ago

Poor planning, poor management and poor PR has plagued the construction of these athletic fields from the very beginning. The corrupt and incompetent school board members should resign immediately.

Practice fields are certainly needed. Great. Build them somewhere else. Somewhere where there is plenty of land and no neighborhoods to disturb. Need to raise taxes for it? I'll vote yes. Need to float bonds? You got my vote. Cram it down my throat? Then you will get a "Hell no, Not in my backyard!"

Maybe, Lawrence citizens should have a TEA party to expose the waste and corruption endemic to the school board.

DOWn, baby, DOWn!

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jrlii 4 years, 8 months ago

A waste of money on top of a waste of money!

Is it any wonder it is hard to get support for taxes for important programs, when it is being squandered on stuff like this?

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swan_diver 4 years, 8 months ago

Lawrence has the best governance money can buy. Expand the county jail -- prosecute administrative law-breakers, run them all out to the east side of town in an abandoned school bus -- and throw away the keys.

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esteshawk 4 years, 8 months ago

Look folks - it's time to get LHS a stadium of it's own. Haskell is falling apart, and this is needed. The cost sounds about right - these things cost a lot in order to make sure it looks good, is solid and will last, serves it's function, and meets all codes. Press boxes are full of people: newspaper (home, visitor, and school), TV, radio, coaching staff, and team video. You're looking at about 20 people minimum.

And the idea that everything should be subject to public vote is completely un-American. We elect representatives, and their job is to represent. If we don't like they way they work, you don't vote for them. Popular vote is not a good idea - your own argument about low voter turnout explains why.

If all you have is a hammer (cynicism), everything begins to look like a nail (corruption and incompetence).

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Clickker 4 years, 8 months ago

"As a past L H S Grad , i would think a nice wooden press box for about $15,000.00 and a chair lift for $3,000.00 would work fine"

Are you kidding me? Good grief...why dont we just put the kids in trailers instead of a nice school building? Ya gotta have some class around here.

I'm sure all the Hills , Sprint and Payless executives would love to look at some junky shack on the LHS property when they are touring the community, and deciding if they are going to live in Lawrence, Topeka, or Olathe.

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mom_of_three 4 years, 8 months ago

Press box also needs to include television for the occassional recorded game. i admit the press box seems a little costly, but if you are going to build one, make it fit in with the stadium, which will be used for a number of years.
If it is cheap looking, then the neighbors will just have more to complain about.

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cowboy 4 years, 8 months ago

Pressbox ? , aw crap , who was in charge of the pressbox , probably Weseman , yeah , he was in charge , he's gone , lets blame the crap out of him. For 270,000 I can build you a bella serra condo out there boys !

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ironhorse66 4 years, 8 months ago

So........................ why does a gal that doesn't live in Lawrence or pay her taxes feel the need to make the first (or any) comments on this issue?

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Pilgrim2 4 years, 8 months ago

seth5792 (Anonymous) says…

Plus I saw no less than 5 busses in the last 2 days driving down 23rd street empty.


Maybe because their parking and maintenance facilities are on 23rd Street?

Brianiac.

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monkeyhawk 4 years, 8 months ago

Would the board members please consider putting gold plated fixtures in the private press box powder room? I think that would make a positive impact. I'm sure you can squeeze a few more dollars out of the citizens of Lawrence to fund any and all grandiose visions.

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Pilgrim2 4 years, 8 months ago

Did_I_say_that (Anonymous) says…

One LJW reporter and one KLWN announcer.


And another KLWN announcer and a KLWN engineer/producer and a public address announcer and the home team coaches and the visiting team coaches and the camera crews for both teams and...

You get the idea. Yeah, you said that, but you didn't say nearly enough.

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seth5792 4 years, 8 months ago

Odd, isn't that about the same amount they cut out of the budget to eliminate the school busses. I am a huge believer in high school sports, both for the money they raise, and what they do for the kids, but half a million bucks for a press box is ridiculous.

I am switching shifts at work, to be able to accomodate getting my kids to school, because the busses are down. Traffic is a nightmare, it took almost 30 minutes just to get out of the Schwegler parking lot. Plus I saw no less than 5 busses in the last 2 days driving down 23rd street empty. Smart logistical planning!!!!!!!

Believe me sports generate a ton of money for schools, money which each school needs. But no high school needs a half million dollar press box for 3 people to report a game.

Meanwhile families all across Lawrence, are without school transportation.

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Robert Rauktis 4 years, 8 months ago

Now remind me, why do they need a press box and why do they have to keep up with the Kansas City Chiefs? These people are delusional. Sports junkies with the public buying their esteem. If they are so inadequate, why not provide Viagra at the games?

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kansasmutt 4 years, 8 months ago

As a past L H S Grad , i would think a nice wooden press box for about $15,000.00 and a chair lift for $3,000.00 would work fine. Who and how does someone come up with close to a half million dollar waste press box ? A change order of that much money should need voter approval. Check the law !!!!!!! You people of Lawrence should fight this with the law not just blogs.Your school board is out of control and you just sit and blog, get busy.

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tumbilweed 4 years, 8 months ago

Money. Even highschool football is about money.

Tell me what is great about this country again?

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Paul R Getto 4 years, 8 months ago

Actually, Merrill, what you describe is a good idea. Lawrence now sits between two communities that are making strides to get quality athletic facilities for youth in their towns. If Lawrence doesn't keep up, it will lose out on prestige and outside business when games are played in town, bringing the fans, parents, etc. who will spend money in Lawrence. This is not a huge deal in the grand scheme of things and should be pursued.

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Nikki May 4 years, 8 months ago

Merrill, I only wish it was PLAY. We need more fields and such for the kids. I coached a youth softball team this year and it's close to impossible to find practice fields. However, with the neighborhood issues, the parks and rec will not be able to even use these fields.

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BigPrune 4 years, 8 months ago

Put a camera on a pole and feed the picture to a pressbox on the ground. How cheap could that be?

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Richard Heckler 4 years, 8 months ago

The $20 million project is not about USD 497 athletic programs and never has been. This has always been about PLAY a rather superficial idea to help sell Lawrence,Kansas real estate. An idea which appears to have come through the Lawrence Chamber of Commerce. In spite of the fact that Lawrence has been losing population.

Our powers that be look towards JOCO and Topeka and say "look at what they have" then proceed forward. Well guess what folks JOCO and Topeka have much much larger tax bases.

Lawrence/Douglas county taxpayers are being played for fools.

This is what happens when low voter participation takes place. The real estate/Developers get their people elected to the city commissions and USD 497 plus get their thinkers appointed to the planning commission.

Did anybody stop to think that maybe the powers that be are high taxing the population right out of town? It's called wreckanomics and reckless spending.

It never pays to stay home and NOT vote. It seems the people who campaign the loudest about protecting our tax dollars turnout out to be the reckless spenders. Taxpayers are being nickle dimed to the poor house.

This one more example of why taxpaying voters need to become the final decision makers on all tax increasing projects which BTW is just about every matter that becomes before our elected bodies. Most every new project cost taxpayers money.

It can be done easily. Voters demand that ALL political elections and new projects be put to the voters each November. No more April elections let's do it all in November and save tax dollars. November is when general elections take place.

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Benjamin Roberts 4 years, 8 months ago

How in the world can it cost $270K to $370K for a press box? That has to be the highest cost per square foot of anything built in the city. A press box! One LJW reporter and one KLWN announcer. Two outhouses on a scissor lift would would suffice; and, solve the ADA issue.

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Marion Lynn 4 years, 8 months ago

So.....................

What did the school board know about this and when did it know it?

So.......................................................

What did the Arkey-Teks know about this and when did they know it?

What did "Rocky" Bracciano know about this and when did he know it?

What did Harwood know about this and when did he know it?

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