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Police execute search warrant at apartment of a KU student body president candidate

Lawrence police executed a search at the residence of a KU student body president candidate.

April 9, 2009

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Lawrence police have confirmed they executed a search warrant Monday at the apartment of a Kansas University student body president candidate.

Police spokeswoman Kim Murphree said Thursday that about 2 p.m. Monday police searched the home of Tutu Lee as part of an ongoing investigation.

The search warrant was executed the same afternoon a Student Senate debate was canceled at the university. It was called off after university officials heard an “unsubstantiated rumor.” They would not specify the contents of the rumor.

“It’s certainly an interesting development,” said Adam McGonigle, KU student body president.

About two weeks ago, Lee posted a campaign video online showing him and another man firing guns.

Lee said that during the search of his apartment Lawrence police retrieved many of the items shown in the video, including guns, clothing and lawn chairs.

Murphree was unable to elaborate on the circumstances of the investigation, but said it stems from information a student reported to police Feb. 11. The student who made the report would not comment Thursday.

In the two-minute video, which has multiple expletives, Lee indicates he’s running for office “to get his girlfriend back” — just before he starts firing at makeshift targets.

When asked about the meaning behind the statement about his girlfriend, Lee said it was a joke. He did say, however, that he recently broke up with his girlfriend.

“We didn’t expect it to rise in popularity so quickly,” he said of his video. “We did not intend for it to be threatening at all.”

The Student Senate elections will take place Wednesday and Thursday.

On Wednesday, a female Kansas University student obtained a temporary restraining order in Douglas County District Court against Lee — seeking protection from stalking. Lee declined to discuss that matter or to say whether the woman was his ex-girlfriend.

Lee said he’s in the process of securing legal representation.

Comments

Wendy magillicutty 5 years, 8 months ago

these "unsubstantiated rumors" are gettin pretty powerful!

beatrice 5 years, 8 months ago

Are there ever "substantiated rumors"? Aren't those just called "facts"?

viewfromahill 5 years, 8 months ago

To the extent that facts can be either TRUE or FALSE, they are "substantiable" rumors.

Vitruvian 5 years, 8 months ago

I saw this video (http://bit.ly/nGTsQ) when it was first released—it was well-produced, funny, and obviously not meant to be threatening. I'm guessing the “scary guns” caused some people to mistake it for a threat.

p 5 years, 8 months ago

Tutu has always been a really strange guy but I seriously doubt he'd ever hurt anyone. What does he expect is going to happen after posting this though:

newsreader 5 years, 8 months ago

Didn't the Kansan report this story last week?!

nowthetruth 5 years, 8 months ago

I doubt anyone thought Cem would hurt anyone either.....restraining order, guns, Student Body President. I say one of these things should not go with the others.

missingdigits 5 years, 8 months ago

WOW! I watched the YouTUbe video (thanks for the link).

Yeah, I am not scared of this guy and he is certainly no threat, however he is quite the moron. I am simply amazed that someone running for this position never once expressed any ideas or concerns- just made a silly video like the entire thing is a joke. Oh wait.... I guess it is a joke.

Relax people and don't give this guy any more publicity than he has already so masterfully sought out. The joke is on you.

tutulee 5 years, 8 months ago

missingdigits,

I didn't realize I was a master of media manipulation. I'm clearly in the wrong field of work.

missingdigits 5 years, 8 months ago

Oh tutelee you knew exactly what you were doing and trying to achieve. You achieved defiantly achieved your goal. All publicity is good publicity.

I am thinking you might have a great career at Faux News!

Steve Jacob 5 years, 8 months ago

"In the two-minute video, which includes multiple expletives, Lee indicates he’s running for office “to get his girlfriend back” — just before he starts firing at makeshift targets."

I don't see the humor in this and hope he is at least expelled after this semester.

Vitruvian 5 years, 8 months ago

srj wrote: “In the two-minute video, which includes multiple expletives, Lee indicates he’s running for office “to get his girlfriend back” — just before he starts firing at makeshift targets.”

I don't see the humor in this and hope he is at least expelled after this semester.

Did you watch the video? At that moment, the music starts playing, with the lyrics "Never gonna find another man like that." I assumed the shooting scene was feigned machismo.

Tutu, as I wrote above, I thought your video was funny and creative. In no way should it warrant your expulsion, much less having the police search your place.

notajayhawk 5 years, 8 months ago

missingdigits (Anonymous) says…

"All publicity is good publicity."

True. Let's hope his next video doesn't include him getting out of a low-slung car with his skirt riding up...

"... however he is quite the moron."

Sadly, if the last several decades of American politics has taught us anything, it's that being a moron does not diminish one's ability to get elected to office.

somebodynew 5 years, 8 months ago

There is more to this story than the video. Patience is a virtue - remember that.

And personally, if I were a student and had a vote, I don't quite think I would appreciate the "attempt" at humor in that video. Gee- wonder why that meeting was cancelled the other day??? Maybe some other people didn't see it as "humor" either.

igby 5 years, 8 months ago

Great satire!

Lose the girlfriend though!

Shame on the judge, DA and cops that believed otherwise!

Sue them!

RedwoodCoast 5 years, 8 months ago

At least students know for whom NOT to vote.

kanshawk 5 years, 8 months ago

uh... so why was a warrant issued and his stuff was taken?

dweezil222 5 years, 8 months ago

Absent something we know nothing about, this has clearly been blown out of proportion.

Just FYI, this tactical shooting stuff is a legitimate sport. One of my friends does this stuff every other weekend in competition. Go to youtube and type in USPSA, you'll find plenty of the comp. videos.

igby 5 years, 8 months ago

They need to send the chairs to the KBI lab so that the dirt can be tested too determine if these chairs has dirt on the legs from Douglas County. Their hoping that the dirt can establish the fact that the shootings occurred in Douglas County, and that would help establish jurisdiction as to where the video was made and where the gun shots were fired. Even then the states got no case and the search warrnts and evidence is out. The video is all that's left. Possibly a complaint of stalking.

This is their only hope for grounds for a search warrant on Tutu's apartment. Since they already violated his civil rights, they need to cover their actions with lab proofs that they hope gives them cause for their actions.

Bottom line is that no crime exist unless they can prove armed criminal action was the intent of their theory to cause a judge to sign a search warrant.

The cops had to lie and the DA had to lie to the judge to get a search warrant? It happens all the time.

The question that will be interesting is, did the girlfriend go to the police first or did the police go too the girlfriend to solicit a complaint, after another third party made a rumored complaint to the police. Did the police recommend to the girlfriend that she file for a protective order based on the video?

If the video was made here in Douglas County, there is still the question of any existing crime other than the intent of armed criminal action. Somehow the stage was set by police and rumored complaints attempting too allude to the intent of Tutu's video. Did the police stage the threat just by investigating third parties rumors of a threatening video that caused fear of armed criminal action was possibly on his mind?

Example:

Dog poop!

Smells like it. Looks like it. If you ask everyone and show the video, it looks like it. Go ask the girlfriend-oh my god- he is crazy, I want to be protected because he came by today.

But tastes like fried chicken! Lol.

igby 5 years, 8 months ago

On the other-hand, had this been a real threat. The police did do what they could to keep the public safe. Even if they didn't do everything perfect.

Thanks!

bearded_gnome 5 years, 8 months ago

yes, ljworld did report this video and the canceled debate last week.

seems rather lame: Tutu Lee certainly didn't run, and didn't act like he thought he'd broken the law.

stalking? woman troubles, a democrat for sure. guns, would normally make him a republican. he needs to make up his mind if he wants a career in politics!

Horace 5 years, 8 months ago

A warrant? Probable cause for what, stalking? What judge signed the warrant?

Furthermore, what was the basis of the protection from stalking order? A campaign video?

TATA, I am not a lawyer, but here's some free advice.

  1. Shut up. Don't make any more public statements.
  2. Get represented. Find the best lawyer you can out of KC.

woodenfleaeater 5 years, 8 months ago

Maybe they obtained the search warrant to seize the clothes. That outfit was totally out of season!

arizonajh 5 years, 8 months ago

Isn't this kind of a catch22 situation? I don't know Tutu (as probably most if not all of you don't) and without a criminal record the police and the Judge probably didn't either. What they did have was a video of an seemingly some-what angry guy, who either wanted to impress an ex-girlfriend or seek revenge upon her (I watched the video a couple times and I'm still not sure which) who just after making that rather ambiguous statement starts shooting at multiple people shaped targets in quick succession then in the next scene goes from sitting normally in chair to firing at said targets in a heartbeat. I don't know if this activity is a sport or not but unless he thinks he is going to be attacked by a big group of hells angels or a bloods street gang, what exactly is he practicing to do? So, If the police view this and do nothing and he does end up to be a Virginia Tech style nut-case (by no means saying you are Tutu, just don't know you from Adam) then they are blamed for not acting, if they do attempt to stop him by executing a search warrant and taking away his means (the guns) to commit a terrible crime, until they can figure this all out they are violating his rights. People who support CC laws say they need to protect themselves from criminals with guns because the police can't but if the police try to take the guns before the 'suspected' criminal acts they are second admendment violators. Just a no win situation for the justice system.

tutulee 5 years, 8 months ago

woodenfleaeater:

I was going to wear my stylin' khaki-colored shorts, but the police confiscated those as well.

Just a note, if anyone here is actually familiar with the person who filed against me, for the sake of her privacy and state of mind, please don't mention her name.

In time you may find that the effects resulting from my campaign material were unintended, even if you somehow wind up believing that I should be kicked off the planet.

My haircut is out of season, too, apparently.

lawthing 5 years, 8 months ago

In Lawrence the cops dont need probable cause for a search warrant because they have no citizen review board, therefore there is no one to complain to if they violate your rights!

lawthing 5 years, 8 months ago

If someone who has their rights violated by the Lawrence Kansas Police Department and dares to submit a complaint, they will simply be charged with some trumpt up charges!

That way they can't sue..or and did I mention there is no review board to complain to?

lawthing 5 years, 8 months ago

Oh wait!!!!!!

This case involves the E-commerce inernet and guns! This is definately a job for the Feds! I see a Federal Indictment to cover-up this mess coming soon!

lawthing 5 years, 8 months ago

A Federal Indictment will have to force Tutu into a plea! Then he won't be able to sue. If he refuses to plea his case will drag out for the next 10 years, by then he will be too old and tired to care anymore!

lawthing 5 years, 8 months ago

He lucky he did not get tasered! The cops in Lawrence have tasers now! And no oversight by a review board!

Did I mention there is no Police review board in Lawrence?

And any Lawrence Kansas commissioner member like Mike Rundle who supports a review board gets gone real quick!

lawthing 5 years, 8 months ago

Why was the Lawrence police handling KU matters? Are the KU police to inadequate to handle their own crimes beyond bike thefts and parking tickets?

I smell a rat here...............................................

oldcat 5 years, 8 months ago

Two things raise questions. 1. A violent youtube posted video mentioning getting his girl back. 2. A restraning order filed by a woman against him.

Why should this not raise a red flag?

xfactor 5 years, 8 months ago

I don't know what his intent was, but shooting a handgun has nothting to do with a campus election.Combine that with a comment about wanting your girlfriend back, photo of a female posted on the wall behind you, slang and a comment about "hitting someone" and I'd say you've created a montage that sets off alarm bells. Campus shootings are a very real phenomenon. This certainly warrants an investigation.

arizonajh 5 years, 8 months ago

oldcat - it should raise a red flag, even if they are inncorrect in their fears. Unforutnately as much as there are people who fear every one with a gun is a killer in waiting there is a crowd who believe that you can never, for any reason, take a gun away from anyone. Is there anything in his past to suspect he is bent on revenge? No. Could he still attack or kill his ex with a knife? Yes. One on one crime is almost impossible to stop. What he can't do without the guns is walk into her dorm, her class, her workplace and kill 13 people in less than a minute like in Binghamton. After viewing the video with rapid fire at multiple targets I think that is what the police and Judge were trying to avoid.

redmoonrising 5 years, 8 months ago

I found the video amusing but tasteless if it is a campaign video. Rather doubt that was it's intention. Then again, it's been a few decades since I was in college. Humor's a good way to catch attention but everything has its boundaries depending on the circumstances. We're all joking here but the girl DID get a restraining order. Maybe with just cause even. Before I make all these decisions about him, his girfriend and the police, I need more information than I've gotten here.

xfactor 5 years, 8 months ago

Forgot to mention that I have a concealed carry license and believe in an indivifual's right to own a firearm. There is nothing wrong with creating a video about target shooting, but the context in which this firearm is used is odd.

imastinker 5 years, 8 months ago

I watched the video. I found it stupid, and what I believe is an an attempt to get publicity, even weird publicity. That's the only that makes sense. I did not see any threats made, although can understand why there is cause for concern. I would not be surprised if the guy from Va tech HAD done a similar video.

That said, he didn't threaten anybody and shooting guns is legal. I can see no reason why police needed to do more than talk to the guy to see what his intentions were. A search warrant and the publicity is uncalled for (unless there is information not mentioned).

Kids do stupid things. Adults do too - but kids are still trying to fit into an adult world. I believe this was an attempt to do this. This poor kid now has to live with the very public consequences of his actions - and it didn't have to be that way. Isn't it our belief as Americans that "it is better for 100 guilty men to go free than one innocent man suffer?"

Alexander Neighbors 5 years, 8 months ago

tutulee:

They were wrong to come after you, you did nothing wrong !! unfortunately Lawrence still has a racial issue because if you had been a white guy, white people would not have cared but since your not white you are seen as a terrorist.

This is why I asked for a review board from city leaders. I suggest you file a complaint with the Lawrence police Dept.

This is the same type of crap they were trying to pull against the yellow house store owners, and to shed light on their progress of a witch hunt its been 4 1/2 years no trial and the charges were dropped a few times.

jonas_opines 5 years, 8 months ago

Tutu: Enjoy your publicity, but don't contribute further to it, certainly not on here!

From, your old ECiv instructor.

/seriously, as O-Bob said, nothing good will come of it.

sinverguenza 5 years, 8 months ago

Listen to what he says in the ENTIRE video. It's f-ing true, and it's hilarious.

"these student politicians are little more than sycophantic resume-builders who portray themselves as towering forces of moral courage while they falsely demean a portrayal of their opposition such that they can deceive themselves into feeling self righteous in their wickedness"

Tutu Lee FTW on honesty and sense of humor. F-ing knuckle-draggers indeed!

Alexander Neighbors 5 years, 8 months ago

Can people seriously Not see the Abuse of Power of the Lawrence Police Department ?

Clearly this guy did not claim to or make an initiative to Kill anyone. Yet our police Dept wastes resources in messing with him. How about they spend their time securing downtown lawrence, people are getting shot, beat up, mugged ,and raped and the police go after KU students for videos they posted online the only thing tutu killed was time and a few paper plates ...........

We should re-define a thing called "REAL CRIMES"

crimes that actually have broken the law !

We neeeed a citizens police review board, Sue Hack in an interview with channel 6 claimed we didn't need one. She was correct in the fact SHE doesn't need one, but for the majority of non white city council citizens. This crap happens to us.

xfactor 5 years, 8 months ago

For those complaining about the actions of the police, you most likely do not have all the facts, including information received on Feb. 11th. Reading a brief online news article doesn't necessarliy give one all the pertinent information regarding an investigation, nor should it.

Jaylee 5 years, 8 months ago

so there is some missing information. the afternoon the debate was canceled tutu pried more publicity from the kansan. and tutu, if it wasn't prying, you should definitely take the other posters' advice and not make any more public statements.

Jaylee 5 years, 8 months ago

wasfreash,

take your yellow house hate mongering elsewhere. you are the one drawing attention to and perpetuating racial issues here, not the LPD

Jaylee 5 years, 8 months ago

http://features.kansan.com/videos/2009/apr/06/student-senate/

dunno if kealing allows that stuff, but here is the video i was referring to where tutu originally sought press.

it appears they shut down the meeting cause he was there testing the security equipment on himself in an "oh, what a joke!" fashion. anything less than some questions with eyebrows raised would be mild neglect of a such a sequence of related events.

Alexander Neighbors 5 years, 8 months ago

Jaylee,

GO TO youtube look how many people from Kansas have videos posted of them shooting a weapon, there is no problem with the white individuals who choose to take part in that recreation. Although soon as any non white individual does they are labeled a threat to the community. Which begs the question Jaylee, how do you see tutu ?

Alexander Neighbors 5 years, 8 months ago

ArumerZwarteHoop: -Your missing the point I have not said anything about hating anyone of any skin color I am just stating cultural tendencies of minority classification.

Alexander Neighbors 5 years, 8 months ago

Yellow house store Lawrence Kansas Federal case brought on by the Lawrence police department who to this day claim there were laws broken but are having an extreemly hard time (after 4.5 years ) with telling a federal judge which laws were broken and an even harder time making up imaginary evidence in the case. Yet after Federal charges were dropped no one in the police department wants to admit fault so they brought the SAME charges back. here are 4 years of news stories on this. Every thing I stated above was derived from the news stories.

http://www2.ljworld.com/news/2007/nov... http://www2.ljworld.com/news/2007/may... http://www2.ljworld.com/news/2005/dec... http://www2.ljworld.com/photos/2006/jul/08/101798/ http://www2.ljworld.com/photos/2006/jul/08/101803/ http://www2.ljworld.com/news/2006/jul... http://www2.ljworld.com/blogs/lawrence_blotter/2006/dec/12/yellowhouse/ http://www2.ljworld.com/news/2008/aug/09/yellow_house_owners_arrested_friday/#c662552 http://www2.ljworld.com/news/2007/jun... http://www2.ljworld.com/news/2008/jul... http://www2.ljworld.com/news/2008/aug... http://www2.ljworld.com/news/2007/jun... http://www2.ljworld.com/news/2006/jun... http://www2.ljworld.com/news/2006/jun... http://www2.ljworld.com/news/2008/aug...

Jaylee 5 years, 8 months ago

was_freashpowder2 (Alexander Neighbors) says…

"GO TO youtube look how many people from Kansas have videos posted of them shooting a weapon, there is no problem with the white individuals who choose to take part in that recreation. Although soon as any non white individual does they are labeled a threat to the community. Which begs the question Jaylee, how do you see tutu ?"

your racism and hate fishing is really annoying!

i see tutu as an ill-advised political player. how do you see him?

the point was not that he posted a video of himself shooting at targets. it was that he posted himself shooting targets with paper plates where a face would be, doing so briskly-- whether intended to look malevolent or not-- AND posted this video labeling it as an election campaign media two weeks before he walked into the senate meeting chamber and started wanding himself and poking fun at the security. that is in the kansan video i posted.

seriously though, cut the racism out. getting old, quick.

Shayntel Harris 5 years, 8 months ago

Based on the video I can only see evidence of three possible crimes:

-If he's under 21, he can't legally own a handgun or shoot one without adult supervision. Not sure if there are additional restrictions if he is a resident alien.

-If he lives on campus, I don't think they allow you to have guns.

-It's unclear if he is shooting in a proper area. If he's in town or on public property he may be in violation.

Either way, firearms violations are no joke and it presents a bad image for legal firearms enthusiasts. It's irrelevant if his video is in poor taste or contains profanity.

kmat 5 years, 8 months ago

Fight it out over Yellow house all you want. That's a different topic.

All I can say is that there is probably a lot more to this story. Until anyone knows why a restraining order was done against this guy, everyone needs to shut up.

Maybe he threatened her. None of you posting know. If there was enough grounds for a restraining order, let the law handle this.

Oh, and where's Marion ranting about speculation? I guess he only likes to rant if the thread involves a poor old man being killed by an idiot driver.

Jaylee 5 years, 8 months ago

kmat (Anonymous) says…

"a poor old man being killed by an idiot driver."

real compassionate!

and you dont know anything about the driver of that accident the other day. i know him and he is a good guy and was on his way to class. it was an accident and he is the one dealing with all of it, so how about next time you wanna badmouth a rando whom you have no evidence is a diluted or "idiot" person, you don't.

yellowhouse 5 years, 8 months ago

If he is a KU student living on KU's Campus, then why aren't the KU police the ones investigating him?

yellowhouse 5 years, 8 months ago

I can't say if mr. tutu should be as vocal about his case as the Yellow House was before the Gag order.

But I can say,

Being vocal about ones case only works in your favor when you are "NOT GUILTY!"

kmat 5 years, 8 months ago

Jaylee - the guy that hit the poor old man didn't clear his windshield (backed up by witnesses at the scene) and didn't come to a complete stop at a stop sign. Have you learned what a stop sign means? That guy killed an innocent person because he didn't pay full attn while driving and didn't clear his windshield and ran a stop sign, which are both illegal. I'm sure he feels like crap, but not as bad as the poor old man he killed.

I'm compassionate for the old man, not the young guy that broke the law and killed him.

sinverguenza 5 years, 8 months ago

It's no use, Jaylee.

kmat is a crusader without flaw. She's never made a mistake in her life and you should know by now that compassion is reserved for the deserving (and "deserving" is defined solely by kmat).

It's all pots and kettles around here.

kthxbi 5 years, 8 months ago

I can think of one instance where kmat was wrong...

kmat 5 years, 8 months ago

Sure, defend a person that hits an old man, who had the right of way. I'm sure that driver did absolutely nothing wrong and the old man jumped on his car trying to kill himself. That seems to be the common thread on here, always defend the guilty. Just wait until it's someone you care about that gets killed by a moron not paying attn and see if your feelings change

How would you feel if an innocent loved one was killed because someone else was to lazy to clean their windshield and ran a stop sign? I know how it feels. A moronic driver that wasn't paying attn and was at fault almost killed my sister, put her in a coma for a month, the accident tore her face apart and she spent over 5 years having surgery after surgery just trying to get back to normal.

So sure, defend those that break the law and kill innocents. Who cares about the innocent people because they're dead, right? Just feel pitty for the person that shouldn't have a license in the first place because they can't follow something as simple as a stop sign.

You people are pathetic. You're just like the people that were defending the animal rapists because it was just an animal.

kmat 5 years, 8 months ago

sinver - you just hate anybody that isn't anti abortion.

sinverguenza 5 years, 8 months ago

kmat, grow up.

Feeling pity for the deceased and pity for the kid who made a mistake (a common one, at that) are not mutually exclusive.

kmat 5 years, 8 months ago

I'm grown up. you attack people for not agreeing with your views, then get upset when you get called out for it. Talk about the kettle. I am grown up and commented on someone who was not and caused an innocent to die!!!

And it's not a common mistake to break multiple laws and kill someone. He should lose his license. Can't clean a windshield?? Can't stop at a stop sign. Good grief. It's just as bad as drunk driving.

pots and kettles

xfactor 5 years, 8 months ago

kmat (Anonymous) says… "everyone needs to shut up.

Including you.

kmat 5 years, 8 months ago

And Jaylee just likes to "reprimand" lots of people on here because he knows all. He also likes to tell us that women that don't agree with him have male issues. Just ask other posters on here. Jaylee is no innocent.

sinverguenza 5 years, 8 months ago

kmat -

I hate anybody that isn't anti-abortion? First of all, I don't know anybody who is pro-abortion, so that leaves me hating everyone, now doesn't it? Secondly, I'm PRO-CHOICE, which makes your statement even more idiotic.

I hate poor reading comprehension and poorly-formed arguments, not necessarily the culprits of such.

kmat 5 years, 8 months ago

So funny how only certain people are allowed to have opinions on here.

Kettle calling.

Have a nice weekend. Time to have a drink and enjoy conversation with more intelligent people.

kthxbi 5 years, 8 months ago

O Noes! Reading comprehension rears its ugly head again!

sinverguenza 5 years, 8 months ago

kmat-

You don't know Jaylee and I do. So I guess that makes you the one talking out of your a**. And the fact that you just implied sexism on Jaylee's part is hilarity. If you knew Jaylee, you'd know why.

Killing someone isn't a common mistake. Not clearing the windshield fully, not coming to a complete stop - those are common.

No one said you couldn't have an opinion. I certainly didn't. I also didn't attack you because I didn't agree with you. I just called out you as you talked out of both sides of your mouth - on one hand saying "no one knows the situation and no one should judge" and on the other hang saying "I know all about it and I'm going to be the judge."

If I attacked you for anything, it's your self-righteous attitude and your blind hypocrisy. You don't even seem to realize you're carrying both. I base my comment on the many rants you've posted in the LJW forum throughout my experience here. You comments back up my comment.

Good luck finding those "intelligent" people to hang out with. I bet all the people you get your opinions from are real scholars.

Here's an idea: If you don't like my opinion of you, why don't you change yourself?

ralphralph 5 years, 8 months ago

If they had a search warrant, and executed it, then they would have served a copy on Tutu. I would like to see a scan of that warrant show up on here, so we can have a little more truth and a little less speculation. fwiw, I took the video and the statements following as humorous, irreverant and innocent sticks-in-the-eye of the establishment at KU Student Government. The fact that a lot of it apparently is true seems more likely to upset that establishment than the bad words and images. That used to be applauded at colleges, but now I guess we hide in the basement if somebody doesn't look or talk like us, or respect the dweebs spending our money on their pet projects.

xfactor 5 years, 8 months ago

It's not all about the video. You mentioned "a little more truth and less speculation." Perhaps if you had all the information, including the Feb. 11th information the Police Spokeswoman referenced, you might view the video in a different way than the way you are interpreting it now.

OzChicklet 5 years, 8 months ago

sinverguenza (Anonymous) says…

Listen to what he says in the ENTIRE video. It's f-ing true, and it's hilarious.

“these student politicians are little more than sycophantic resume-builders who portray themselves as towering forces of moral courage while they falsely demean a portrayal of their opposition such that they can deceive themselves into feeling self righteous in their wickedness”

Tutu Lee FTW on honesty and sense of humor. F-ing knuckle-draggers indeed!


I'm with you! Although all the facts are not in, my impression is this is an artistic expression - perhaps in bad taste - but so is a lot of other "humor" out there. Don't you get that the shooting is an expression of defiance against the "establishment" (to quote a 60's term)? Everyone is slamming him because he was "wanding" himself. Isn't anyone concerned that he or ANYONE ELSE for that matter could even be in there doing that? Great security KU! Gee, if someone really wanted to blow folks away during the debate, they would plan to be in the room, way ahead of anyone else and check out the best location to shoot from - of course if they were an intelligent sniper, that is. If they are a regular everyday kook, then they wouldn't be there wanding themselves, they would just run in when the room was full of people and shoot!

The restraining order is a different issue. And a private one at this point.

jonas_opines 5 years, 8 months ago

"You people are pathetic."

And here you are bickering with us.

OzChicklet 5 years, 8 months ago

And when you think about it, Tutu's comment about running for student body president to get his girlfriend back is hilarious! Like that would IMPRESS her!

Kyle Reed 5 years, 8 months ago

I thought the video was great. The monologue at the beginning is right on point.

Alexander Neighbors 5 years, 8 months ago

FREEDOM of POLITICAL SPEECH !!! HAHAHAHAH they cant touch him, WOW the city must want to pay out money to him.

Alexander Neighbors 5 years, 8 months ago

Boy its a great thing the lawrence police take the time NOT to observe the US constitution.

http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/data/constitution/amendment01/07.html

Hell they really would'nt need to read past the first paragraph....o say past the first amendment.......... U.S. Constitution: First Amendment. http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/data/constitution/amendment01/07.html

tutulee 5 years, 8 months ago

Hi, all. Tomorrow night between the times of 11p and 2a I will be downtown frequenting coffee shops while my friends clean up the mess in my apartment from this week (which is not to say it was not a mess to begin with). If anyone is interested in chatting with me, seek me out. I promise that I won't bite nor will I care if you are undercover working for the police. You can identify me by my black softshell with Arcteryx embroidered on it. I look forward to answering any questions anybody might have .

lawthing 5 years, 8 months ago

Tutu, You are doing the right thing. Your willingness to transparency shows you have nothing to hide.

The guilty are the ones who feel they need to be quiet and everything needs to be kept a secret. If you are not guilty the secrecy just gives more power to the Government to condemn you!

It is a well known fact that a police dept. with a citizen review board and transparency, upholds the trust of the public which they serve. Lawrence doesn't currently have that.

Strontius 5 years, 8 months ago

I hope every person here attacking Tutu has to go through getting their possessions seized by police due to a two month old unsubstantiated rumor.

The fear in this country is sickening.

papaya 5 years, 8 months ago

If this video had been produced as an assignment for the KU Film Dept., I'm thinking it wouldn't have drawn the same level of criticism and law enforcement attention.

That being said, I LOL'd. Also enjoyed the "Kumar" reference in the credits. White Castle anyone?

chucknoblet 5 years, 8 months ago

Yeah, real good judgement to make a video using guns and make a comment about getting back an ex-girlfriend and with a restraining order involved. I just love men, or boys, who are so cowardly that they like to terrorize women with guns. Even, at its most innocent if it were supposed to be satire, it shows poor judgment. As if the combination of guns and universities and ex-girlfriends is somehow "funny". What an idiot. Poor, poor victim had his guns confiscated. People who don't make videos showing themselves firing a gun and mentioning winning back an ex-girlfriend don't ordinarily get their guns confiscated, so please don't whine about gun rights in this case. Oh, and please don't threaten to kill me for making gun rights comments.

Alexander Neighbors 5 years, 8 months ago

Marion : Careful what you post on the 'net.......

O I know they have already came for me once and couldn't find me, By the way I am surprised and shocked to see the police wast their time and your money going after people who have committed no crimes (except being non-white, in kansas, and owning a gun). Some one made a comment about the restraining order. You can get a restraining order for any reason under the sun, all it is is a piece of paper court ordered contract filed by a civilian.

It has no merit in a state case but the Lawrence police dept would like you to believe that, they say anything they want to the media even if its not Exactly True. (this is based on their track record)

Every one should ask them self's Why are the KU police Not handling this ?
it did happen on campus. Which is KU property.

Probably because the KU police don't do corruption...

oldcat 5 years, 8 months ago

Alexander, you lack some reading comprehension skills. It stated police served a warrant on his apartment. There are no single student apartments on campus; therefore it seems KU police have no authority to serve warrants there. Ergo, LPD takes over. Apparently you have some major problems with LPD. Care to explain why?

Alexander Neighbors 5 years, 8 months ago

How many more people have to be attacked by the LPD before the city gets a citizens review board on their A$$. ?

tutulee 5 years, 8 months ago

Thanks, Chuck! I'm thinking Java Break.

Horace 5 years, 8 months ago

Tutu:

Again - Shut up. Say nothing about this to anyone other than an attorney.

Alexander Neighbors 5 years, 8 months ago

OLD Cat,

it is obvious to me you are in the LPD for you have given a flawed reason why the LPD absolutely positively had to inter vein then you stated a fallacy-

therefore it seems KU police have no authority to serve warrants there. Ergo, LPD takes over. Apparently you have some major problems with LPD.

I will remind you KU police have the same powers as you (LPD) they are able to get search warrants and do as they seem fit. What they are not allowed to do is break the law because they have a review board you sir, do not. whilst I may have some reading comprehension skills. You have some legal comprehension skills.

If you feel that corruption in the Lawrence police department is NOT a major problem then please by all means start a citizens review board.

below is a story of the KU police getting search warrants for stuff.

oldcat 5 years, 8 months ago

Alexander, repeat request."Apparently you have some major problems with LPD. Care to explain why?" And no, I am not in Law Enforcement and obviously you aren't either and have no clue as to how they work,

somebodynew 5 years, 8 months ago

And just exactly WHEN did KUPD come up with a police review board ???? I have been around a loong time and have never heard of it. And this whole review board thing is just stupid. All of the review boards I have heard of just review complaints - they would have NO say in the pd (whichever one you chose) of getting a search warrant. That is only by review of a DA and a Judge.

Oh, I forget according to was and law and yh it is ALL a big conspiracy and everyone is involved (except them).

Alexander Neighbors 5 years, 8 months ago

I love it. the more relevant I am with my comments the more my personal character gets attacked.

oldcat 5 years, 8 months ago

Alexander, where has your character been attacked? Also, repeat request.”Apparently you have some major problems with LPD. Care to explain why?”

Alexander Neighbors 5 years, 8 months ago

Oldcat - to answer your question in one word "CORRUPTION" .

How many years does it take before the LPD cleans up its act ? How many years does it take before a review board is put in place to over see the police department ?

Sure we cant change what they do, nothing can protect you from a few corrupt Lawrence police officers, but if there was a public forum supported by the city it would curb a lot of misconduct. Especially if the officer knew what they were doing would be shown to the public. I am not saying Everyone in the Lawrence police department is corrupt or has broken laws while on duty and it was swept under the rug. What I am merely hinting at is if there were more transparency in the police dept we would not have the problems we have now.

if you remember the yellow house owners 4 years ago were pronounced by the Sgt Dan Ward of LPD to be the largest fencing operation in lawrence with hundreds of thousands of dollars worth of stolen goods going through the store BUT after a few months that number changed to hundreds of dollars of stolen goods, and now here we sit 2009 and not even 1 dollar of stolen goods to date have been found from the 7 raids ( over 2 years ) done by the LPD, Non of the seized stuff has been returned to the yellow house owners EVEN after it was verified to not be stolen.

you ask what my problem is.... well picture the police want to shut you down and run you outta town so they take every thing from your house claim its all stolen never give it back then they seize stuff from your work and never give it back... After 4 1/2 years you are never charged with fencing ( the original reason for the seizures ) because you were never fencing in the first place. The people in the LPD dont want to look bad so they claim its an ongoing investigation..... Do you see my problem ?

Then the yellow house owners Guy and Carrie Neighbors are arrested over 5 times and taken to federal prison and held for a few days just to be ordered released by a federal judge, not because they committed any crimes but because of blog entries in which they publicly proclaim they innocent. All of this info is below.

CAN YOU NOT SEE THE ABUSE !?

oldcat 5 years, 8 months ago

Alexander, where has your character been attacked? Where is the proof of corruption? Why aren't the Neighbors in jail? Sounds like they should be and the whole case should have been resolved by now. Based on news and LE reports the whole thing should be. history and definitely someone should be in jail.

Alexander Neighbors 5 years, 8 months ago

OLDCAT- Why aren't the Neighbors in jail? there is a little thing called rights and if you did not commit a crime you don't belong in jail. Also just to be fair for technical reason they were in prison for 7 days because of the LPD picked them up on a Friday @ 5 pm and took them there. Then a federal judge ordered them released from custody in the court room that following week. All of this information is in the links I posted above.

OLDCAT: Sounds like they should be and the whole case should have been resolved by now.

It was resolved when the charges were dropped, Then when the police department came under review for corruption they quickly refiled the exact same charges. This was in 2007 2 years AGO and the neighbors have had 4 trial dates set and each one of them were re-scheduled.

When have you EVER herd of Federal charges being dropped against someone ? the judge even wrote a letter stating the charges were ridicules. "this letter is also on the Ljworld website"

xfactor 5 years, 8 months ago

Freashpowder - Looks as though you have an obsession with this. How many forums do you need to expound upon your ideas/agenda?

http://classes.engr.oregonstate.edu/eecs/spring2007/cs381/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Profiles/AlexanderNeighbors

oldcat 5 years, 8 months ago

Alexander, the only problem I see, based on your posts and links is this. Why aren't the Neighbors in jail? Apparently they should be.

xfactor 5 years, 8 months ago

Alexander Neighbors - Please ignore the question I posted to you. After looking up who you are, I have no interest in you.

Alexander Neighbors 5 years, 8 months ago

dang this Joshua has an AK-47 !?!? what does he need that for ?

http://img150.imageshack.us/my.php?image=oojoshuaxq6.jpg

This just proves my point- a minority has a (hand gun) everyone freaks out. White guy Has an AK-47 its seen as normal. There is something seriously wrong with the LPD and the community, and who ever says this is not a race issue you are sadly mistaken !!!!!

TUTU, the yellow house store owners and anyone else who has been effected by the LPD corruption will see justice served against the LPD for their crimes against the community.

oldcat 5 years, 8 months ago

Alexander,to an outside person, it appears the crimes against the community were committed by yellow house. Why aren't they in jail? TUTU appears to be simply an ignorant person, but definitely someone to be watched, Shows all signs of a stalker.

Alexander Neighbors 5 years, 8 months ago

Oldcat you make a lot of assumptions, why are you such a racist? or are you one of the corrupt police officers ?

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Racism http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racism

oldcat 5 years, 8 months ago

Alexander, where did I or anyone, other than you scream racism? And no, I'm not in Law Enforcement.

Alexander Neighbors 5 years, 8 months ago

Well oldcat you don't scream racism, neither do I. I am only trying to point out that your current way of thinking is blatantly racist, you stated-

-TUTU appears to be simply an ignorant person.

this comment makes no since, how is Tutu an ignorant person he is an honor student who is competing for student senate which last time I checked is a leadership position but i understand if you didnt know that you probably wouldent even be able to get your grandma to vote for you if you ran for anything?

interesting thing is you make no mention of Joshua who in the link I have included above is wielding an AK-47. Why is it that the Asian person is ignorant and the white gentleman with the AK-47 not ?

If you ask me the man with the AK-47 would be more of a threat to the community, but since since he is white and the Lawrence police department has no review board, the Asian individual is targeted.

No where in any of his videos I watched did he state he was going to hurt or kill anyone. so please tell me again why you feel the need to call people who are non white ignorant ?

yellowhouse 5 years, 8 months ago

I remember that picture of Joshua with the AK-47. that was his profile picture on larryville.com.

He is a new mediator of the site.

I think he posted this pic to show everybody he wasn't going to take anybodys crap!

lol!!

Which is apparently not grounds for a search warrant when your a nice white boy!

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