Archive for Monday, September 22, 2008

Standoff near Baldwin City continues into early morning

September 22, 2008, 1:33 p.m. Updated September 23, 2008, 3:46 a.m.


Law enforcement continues to maintain a perimeter around a house southeast of Baldwin City. Roads in the area have been closed as the Douglas County Sheriff's Office and Kansas Highway Patrol troopers try to make contact with a woman who is threatening to harm herself.

"We're trying to make sure that that person doesn't (hurt herself) and that everybody comes away safe," said Douglas County Undersheriff Steve Hornberger, who oversees the operations division.

Officers have been at the scene, in the 1800 section of North 100 Road. since about 1 p.m. Monday afternoon.


Lenette Hamm 9 years, 2 months ago

a map might be nice.......? and where does the LJW hire their reporters?? Didn't they teach grammar/English?

shorttrees 9 years, 2 months ago

Self harm? Why would anyone want to hurt Bill? Is it a hostage situation? You'd think something would've happened in the last two hours.

truman 9 years, 2 months ago

only about a fourth of a mile is blocked off- i drove by

otto 9 years, 2 months ago

ficticious scenario -- dude shoots himself with a 30-06, bullet travels through him and hits you while driving down road. Sounds like they are taking a cautious approach and I respect that.

james dick 9 years, 2 months ago

Thank God it is not the Lawrence police department in charge!

BBFantastic 9 years, 2 months ago

Well, regardless of what some of you have said, the kinder comments are easier to read. Haven't found an update since a little after 4 this afternoon.Hope she's ok.Some people can't control how they feel, and react in certain situations. She obviously needs some help. I hope she can get it.

yoornotmee 9 years, 2 months ago

"Oh I love reading articles like this that have no clear point:.. other than "hey, a guy is trying to kill himself in Baldwin"I wouldn't really consider this breaking news:"I totally agree!This sort of "news" is really just gossip. It's not important to the majority of Lawrencians and should not be considered "breaking news". Now if there's an accident on Iowa that's blocking up traffic, or theres a tornado, yeah, put that on the banner cause that's good to know. But this? Really?

Deja Coffin 9 years, 2 months ago

Is there anyone else in the home? A cat, child, drunk husband, give me something!

bearded_gnome 9 years, 2 months ago

dweezil,I bet the guy/gal has a shotgun or other longgun. better to prevent colatteral they say. lmh wants a map? why, you gonna go and gawk? or look it up on google-earth?
more people on such a scene can really complicate efforts to talk down somebody in this circumstance. as to "nothing happening in two hours" I think instead we should be praising the patience of law enforcement. patience, talking, that's what's necessary...after all: dying is forever. ***yeah, Madmike, I noticed that too. is the word "suicide" now ruled un-PC? or maybe they're being very precise: "the subject threatened to blow off his fourth toe on his left foot" ... not suicide attempt, just threatening to harm himself. of course, he might be threatening to watch "the View!" that'd qualify.

Hawk6643 9 years, 2 months ago

Why would that cops shoot a deer? That just seems kinda stupid?

Deja Coffin 9 years, 2 months ago

I do apologize for my bad jokes. I do hope she is safe and gets the help she needs.

bearded_gnome 9 years, 2 months ago

apparently,logicunsound thinks people should be allowed to kill themselves. probably supports free euthenasia. probably supports aborting and killing in later in life people with disabilities, just because of those disabilities. you know, they aren't so productive, have an undesirable life, so better to kill them, better for them, better for the society. and, the benevolent citizens' committee will decide when people fit the category of lesser lives. sound familiar? modern liberal=logicunsound.

bearded_gnome 9 years, 2 months ago

to God that someone had been there to stop him before it happened!! Now hopefully you can find it within yourself to say a little prayer for her tonight:.;---assumes LS prays...longshot.

Cindy Flippo 9 years, 2 months ago

How pathetic most of the comments are. What a miserable life you must live to bother to make such statements about other people. The Lawrence police dept has a job to do, as does the Lawrence journal world. If you dont feel the Journal Worlddoes a good job, then why are you on here every single day posting? Why would you bother to take the time to read what they print? You do not know this woman, and you do not know the circumstances as to why she is wanting to take her life, so dont pretend to be all high and mighty and judge others. Go back to bed, or get a life of your own, and leave others out of it.

dweezil222 9 years, 2 months ago

Just curious as to why this necessitated closing down a whole road...

Christine Anderson 9 years, 2 months ago

Logicsound:How can you be so insensitive? She obviously needs help. I hope no one is hurt here, so this woman can get the help she needs. The rest of us have no idea what events or hurts in her life have led her to this point. What I do know, is that it is never, ever something to be ignored!I believe part of law enforcements' mission is to serve and protect. Well, if they are out there trying to stop this woman from harming herself, they are trying to protect her life.If this woman were one of your loved ones, wouldn't you want the police to do the same for them?

triplegoddess13 9 years, 2 months ago

And you same people would be complaining if the police sat back and did nothing while something DID happen to this person. How pathetic and yet typical of each and every one of you.

DemolitionMan 9 years, 2 months ago

Unfortunatly this is my good friends mom, shes had a struggle with depression and alcohol for years, was recently in a center getting treatment for her condtitions and she was released. Sad to see she was released to soon or they didn't help, thought she was on a turn for the better.

lluvsk 9 years, 2 months ago

I completely agree with Misplacedcheesehead.....!!! How can some of you be so incredibly insensitive to the plight of this woman and her family? Instead of blogging stupid comments, maybe you should be praying for her safety.. You never know, she could be your friends' mother or sister. Wouldn't you feel awful if she were, and you did nothing but sit idly by and post comments that are pathetic? You should be ashamed. Well, my son DID commit suicide and I wish to God that someone had been there to stop him before it happened!! Now hopefully you can find it within yourself to say a little prayer for her tonight....; )

WiseOne 9 years, 2 months ago

What is wrong with you people?Thanks for some kind words from misplacedcheesehead. So sad that we can find humor is such a situation. I don't understand.

bearded_gnome 9 years, 2 months ago

Office and Kansas Highway Patrol troopers try to make contact with a woman who is threatening to harm herself.I was right:she's TVO'ed ten episodes of "the view" and is threatening to watch them nonstop! ***this does deserve the banner. road is closed, someone is at risk. seriously, I do hope this ends without any harm!

Christine Pennewell Davis 9 years, 2 months ago

I was hoping this would be resolved by the tine I got up. Long day and night for all involved.

chsn3boys 9 years, 2 months ago

GSW- I seen police and animal control stading around where the pond used to be in the cemetary on the south side of 15th yesterday morning shortly before 8. Maybe thats where the deer ended up. I was wondering what they were doing and you have answered my question!

OldEnuf2BYurDad 9 years, 2 months ago

Yeah, I only had to read a few posts before I began to wonder "are we supposed to be entertained by this?" If you are bored, watch TV; but please, let's stop posting our jokes and quips. This is in poor taste. A person may kill herself today.

somebodynew 9 years, 2 months ago

In addition to the thoughtful comments about trying to help this person (which I truely believe in), people must keep in mind one point.If LE is called to a situation like this, once they are there they cannot leave. They have to try their best to find a resolution and help this person.Beyond the fact that it is their job, it is the only moral thing to do. And guess what, if they DID just walk away and the person did something, guess who would be sued. Then all you taxpayers would be bit**ing about that.

glassy 9 years, 2 months ago

I don't think the issue here is whether a woman has an problem,right or wrong.the real issue is that this has been turned in to a newspaper article.any sensible, or sensitive individual would NOT see this as a media opp.

GSWtotheheart 9 years, 2 months ago

I wonder if that was a deer that was about to self-harm on east 15th st around 7 am today. I was trying to leave for work and saw nothing but cops everywhere. Neighbor said the cops shot the deer but it was still alive and running down 15th. I'm not joking!

I_AM_THE_REAL_BOB 9 years, 2 months ago

notice how acg excludes him/herself from being "awful people"........Lawrence Kansas is 98% awful people............the dead deer is worth more than most of you..............mustbhiorlo, don't bother yourself with apologizing, they are not worth it.......

Christine Pennewell Davis 9 years, 2 months ago

sorry that should be time not tine typing in the dark without my glasses.

acg 9 years, 2 months ago

Some of the folks posting here are genuinely awful people, I will admit. We, and you, know who you are. For all of our personality quirks, though, most of the posters are good folks. We make jokes, alot of the times they may be inappropriate, but they aren't aimed personally at the people or the situation. Have some of you who are so incensed ever stopped to think that laughter is the best defense mechanism against most of what can bring you down in life? We've all been guilty of laughing at something others would think it inappropriate to laugh at. Humor is subjective and cathartic.

GSWtotheheart 9 years, 2 months ago

yes, a deer! about 7 am yesterday, the neighbor told me it was running down the street and the police had to shoot itit is a safety issue, deer can do a lot of damage to a carI haven't seen anything about it on here yet this morning thoughDidn't anybody else see the police cars, wounded deer, or line of traffic stopped on extreme east 15th st yesterday am???

jakeoliver84 9 years, 2 months ago

Oh I love reading articles like this that have no clear point..... other than "hey, a guy is trying to kill himself in Baldwin"I wouldn't really consider this breaking news...

bearded_gnome 9 years, 2 months ago

you obviously speak from ignorance LS:it is impossible in those situations for the police, or some intervener to assess a person's mental state at that moment. and, yes, you people who promote euthanasia generally do push the concept of lesser lives that don't deserve to continue. people who do that are playing God. oh, and thanks for lumping me in with Madmike, he's great company, and probably has more courage in his index fingernail than you've ever experienced. ***still no update? they still out there? if so, kudos to the patience of DGSO! you guys/gals are saving a life as much as if you were catching a murderer! thanks. hang in there!

acg 9 years, 2 months ago

So sorry, Bob, I didn't mean you, but then you knew that. Room, I so wasn't talking to TOB, but that other dbag Iamtherealbob.

hairshoptalk 9 years, 2 months ago

this woman is family to me and your comments make me sick!!! she isn't all there and the police know her well. some of her family live with her and is going through this with her so some consideration would be nice. i wish this situation upon all of you with ugly comments. they block the entire road for safety she has neighbors within a quarter of a mile. it is truly sad what she is putting her family through. i wish her the best but that isn't what she wants! ALL THAT I ASK IS EVERYONE WITH AN AWFUL UGLY COMMENT, PLEASE LOOK FOR ATTENTION SOMEWERE ELSE THIS ISN'T THE TIME OR THE PLACE!!!

acg 9 years, 2 months ago

I am the original bob, if 98% of the people in Lawrence are that disgusting to you, then you are more than welcome to beat feet, sweetie. You won't be missed by any of us. Have a nice day!

DemolitionMan 9 years, 2 months ago

Ah, I see now thanks, didn't pull up when using the ljw search for some reason.

Jonathan Kealing 9 years, 2 months ago

The search only indexes once a day - in the morning. It would be impossible for us to update the search index continuously without installing massive, google-sized servers. It'll show up tomorrow morning.Jonathan KealingOnline editor

DemolitionMan 9 years, 2 months ago

Since LJW hasn't updated this i'll fill you in, she surrendered peacfully this morning and is getting help.

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