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Palin spells out role if elected vice president

September 16, 2008

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Vice presidential candidate Sarah Palin said Monday she would concentrate on energy, government reform and helping families with special-needs children if Republicans win the White House this fall, and drew cheers when she said, "too often government is the problem" rather than the solution.

McCain's selection of Palin more than two weeks ago has brought renewed enthusiasm to his campaign, particularly among conservatives who have long been wary of him. Yet the governor, with little experience outside her own state, has largely been kept out of public view while aides seek to bring her up to date on a range of issues.

Meanwhile, Palin is unlikely to speak with an independent counsel hired by Alaska lawmakers to review the firing of her public safety commissioner, a spokesman for Republican presidential candidate John McCain said Monday.

Spokesman Ed O'Callaghan said he has not spoken with Palin, but she was "unlikely to cooperate" with the inquiry "as long as it remains tainted."

Democrats charged that the McCain campaign was trying to stall the investigation.

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ndmoderate 6 years, 3 months ago

That's good news for Bush--Uh, I mean McCain supporters, as just a couple of weeks ago she had no clue what the VP does."Our children is learning!"

just_another_bozo_on_this_bus 6 years, 3 months ago

"I just won $25! I bet myself"Then you just lost $25, too. You've obviously been too involved in pyramid schemes and the Republican Party for much too long, snap.

staff04 6 years, 3 months ago

re: My last comment...Maybe I need to more closely consider privatizing our public school system...unless... Hmmm?

oldvet 6 years, 3 months ago

snap, the over/under line on that bet would have been "2nd posting"

1029 6 years, 3 months ago

Dig, Sarah, dig. It's only a matter of time before you are asked to clarify what you mean by "helping families with special-needs children". What are you going to do--encourage churches to say a special prayer for them every Sunday? Anything you could possibly do to "help" any family would be undermining your party's ideology. You can't help them through government programs because those will cost tax dollars and will go against the Republican idea that people should take care of themselves and those that don't are just lazy. Plus you could potentially lose the support of some of the "small government/low taxes" simpletons. Will you help the families of special needs children through supporting research--and somehow providing funding for it? Republicans tend to only support research if it is going to supply facts to support a conclusion that they already came up with. And scientific research is always a threat because it is seen as questioning God--as if the answer "God" isn't good enough for the tough questions. So Republicans determined that women, being a significant percentage of voters, are so stupid that they will vote for a woman no matter how much that woman stands against women's right. Now they have determined that the "families of special needs children" make up a large enough number of voters that they will lie to them to get their votes (provided those families are ignorant enough to think that if one party is going to help them more it will be the republicans). Also, one would think that one of the best ways to help a special needs child would be to give that child love and attention rather than pursue personal ambitions of political power.

JohnBrown 6 years, 3 months ago

Tom, McCain's poll bounce from Palin is slipping away.Too much "government"? Like in 'too much government oversight and regulation of the sub-prime loan market'? or "too much government relief after Katrina"?or, "too much government-collected information on pre-9/11 activities by terrorists"?The worst terrorist attack in this country's history happened on the Republican't watch. The worst economic meltdown since the Great Depression happened on the Republican't watch.The worst U.S. military readiness since before WWII has happened on the Republican't watch.The worst U.S. debt increase ($5 Trillion -- with a "T") happened on the Republican't watch.The worst threat of nuclear proliferation happened on this Republican't watch.The most damage to the U.S. Constitution happened during the Republican't watch.The Republican't Party has dismantled this country in ways that the Taliban and Bin Laden could only dream of.--"Pay no attention to that [old] man behind the curtain"

just_another_bozo_on_this_bus 6 years, 3 months ago

What's the bet that oldvet and snap will comment on other posters rather than the article (likely because they have nothing of substance to say?)

staff04 6 years, 3 months ago

"right to bear arms guaranteed by the fourth amendment to the consitution"DOH!!!

dandelion 6 years, 3 months ago

She keeps giving these pert little "Beauty Queen" answers. It's not a beauty contest. Why won't you be interviewed by a hard hitting reporter, if you're this tough dog. I still can't believe she called herself a dog. Poor self esteem, I'd say.

JohnBrown 6 years, 3 months ago

rtwngr: STILL waiting for your rebuttal....Let's start with the $5 trillion debt. How did that happen on the Republican't watch?No? How about our current military readiness? Do you know where our "ready response" division, the 82nd Airborne, is right now, before you Google it? How can we respond to Putin in Georgia, or the Ukraine, if our entire military is already tied up?On whose watch did 9/11 happen? Please do refute this one.America is a mess, and the Republican'ts made it that way.

rtwngr 6 years, 3 months ago

JohnBrown presents a list of anecdotal evidence that in volume is convincing but taken individually is easily rebutted. Clint Gentry throws slurs around like gun-nuts (right to bear arms guaranteed by the fourth amendment to the consitution) and radical christians (religious bigotry here) to bolster his argument. Let's not forget bozo (reference to firesign theater from the 60's, roll one for me too) who will not admit that Obama's past ties to different individuals call his character into question. Do us all a favor and save the Bush did this, blah blah blah. Bush did that, blah blah blah. Take a hard look at Mr. Inside the Beltway Biden. Some change, huh???McCain and Palin are going to win. How do you like us now?

BigDog 6 years, 3 months ago

There is another saying .... you can take the crooked politician out of Chicago ... but not even the liberal media can clean that dirt off

Flap Doodle 6 years, 3 months ago

Wait until the RICO investigation of ACORN gets rolling....

just_another_bozo_on_this_bus 6 years, 3 months ago

"Wait until the RICO investigation of ACORN gets rolling:."Yea, can't wait until its revealed that it was individual actions by a very small number of contract workers that resulted in absolutely no election fraud. Oh, wait, we already knew that, didn't we?

BigDog 6 years, 3 months ago

woodenfleaeaterif all of your information was accurate it would be great. You seem to puff up Obama's credentials while downplaying Palin's.And I don't think you even want to get into Obama's church that he has raised his children in.You might want to go to factcheck.org and get correct information on your sex education claim.And Michelle Obama until recently worked at a $300,000 a year job in a Chicago Hospital, she didn'y give up her career to raise a family. As a matter of fact, she was promoted into that job upon his election to the US Senate.Sponsoring bills in the US Senate is not the same as authoring an important piece of legislation. Sponsoring means you signed on in support of someone else's legislation.And finally, why are you comparing the Presidential candidate's qualifications against the other side's Vice-Presidential candidates qualifications? Heck if you dig into it ..... your Vice Presidential candidate Joe Biden has better qualifications than your Presidential candidate.

Kontum1972 6 years, 3 months ago

someone forgot to mention the guys who were with the maverick @ the hanoi hilton, they said he was out of control there and brought grief on them for his actions, they do not want to see this guy in office,...he has issues,and he doesnt have any love for the north vietnamese. I remember when i came back from Nam,....i was a baby-killer, i remember what i shot at..the Maverick sped by bombing and napalming his victims, u cant tell children from bombing altitude.

dagopman 6 years, 3 months ago

A serious question: can anyone explain why anyone would want to retain Members of Congress when the congressional approval ratings are 9%?Boyda had her chance. Like Ryun, it is high time to move forward.

BigDog 6 years, 3 months ago

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Flap Doodle 6 years, 3 months ago

I just won $25! I bet myself that bozo would be the first person to post on this thread & that he'd be his usual snarky self.

preebo 6 years, 3 months ago

The Irony here is that she and Sen. McCain are running as Washington Reformers (ha ha, laughable). Their attempts to appeal to the Republican, less government-more freedom, anti-bureaucracy base seem to fall short of the ideal Republican mantle which is that the Constitution doesn't spell out the necessity for bureaucracy. If Gov. Palin had her way she would do all this work, that REALLY wouldn't be in her job description. According to that little piece of parchment, The Constitution, her job, if elected, either by some large failing of the Democratic party or to a lesser extent the American people would be quite simple. Be prepared to serve as President should the President be unable to, and serve as the tie-breaking vote in Congress, everything else is... well bureaucratic non-sense, Ms. Reformer.As John Adams once said, "the vice-presidency is the most insignificant office that ever the invention of man contrived or his imagination conceived."

Confrontation 6 years, 3 months ago

I would consider any child in a conservative family to be a "special needs child."

acg 6 years, 3 months ago

Can we replace her with Tina Fey?

just_another_bozo_on_this_bus 6 years, 3 months ago

"Republicans win the White House this fall, and drew cheers when she said, "too often government is the problem" rather than the solution."That's been the unspoken official policy of BushCo for 8 years. And we should expect McCain and Palin to change that?"Spokesman Ed O'Callaghan said he has not spoken with Palin, but she was "unlikely to cooperate" with the inquiry "as long as it remains tainted.""Translation-- she has much to hide, and will attempt to do so till at least the first Tuesday in November.

slang4d 6 years, 3 months ago

"helping families with special-needs children"Uh huh...would she have any interest in that if she didn't have a special needs child? Republicans aren't exactly known for helping special populations. It reminds me a little of Nancy "stem cell research is great!" Reagan. The second something affects them personally they are ardent supporters of research, education, etc.

JohnBrown 6 years, 3 months ago

rtwngr: please feel free to "rebut" all you want. Let's start with the $5 trillion debt. How did that happen on the Republican't watch?No? How about our current military readiness? Do you know where our "ready response" division, the 82nd Airborne, is right now, before you Google it? How can we respond to Putin in Georgia, or the Ukraine, if our entire military is already tied up?On whose watch did 9/11 happen? Please do refute this one.America is a mess, and the Republican'ts made it that way.

dandelion 6 years, 3 months ago

Tom Shewmon (Tom Shewmon) says:I'll comment on the issues bozo.So Tom has to comment on the issues, because his vp candidate isn't? Are you speaking for the little lady, Tom. Does she check in with you and Rush before she has an opinion or a plan like a good little girl?

woodenfleaeater 6 years, 3 months ago

This says it perfectly....I'm a little confused. Let me see if I have this straight..... - If you grow up in Hawaii, raised by your grandparents, you're"exotic, different." - If you grew up in Alaska eating moose burgers, you're the quintessential American story. - If your name is Barack you're a radical, unpatriotic Muslim. - Name your kids Willow, Trig and Track, and you're a maverick. - Graduate from Harvard law School and you are unstable. - Attend 5 different small colleges before graduating, you're well grounded. - If you spend 3 years as a brilliant community organizer, become the first black President of the Harvard Law Review, create a voter registrationdrive that registers 150,000 new voters, spend 12 years as a Constitutional Law professor, spend 8 years as a State Senator representing a district with over 750,000 people, become chairman of the state Senate's Health andHuman Services committee, spend 4 years in the United States Senate representing a state of 13 million people while sponsoring 131 bills and serving on the Foreign Affairs, Environment and Public Works and Veteran's Affairs committees, you don't have any real leadership experience. - If your total resume is: local sports girl, 4 years on the city council and 6 years as the mayor of a town with less than 7,000people, 20 months as the governor of a state with only 650,000 people, thenyou're qualified to become the country's second highest ranking executive. - If you have been married to the same woman for 19 years whileraising 2 beautiful daughters, all within Protestant churches, you're not areal Christian. - If you cheated on your first wife with a rich heiress, and leftyour disfigured wife and married the heiress the next month, you're aChristian. - If you teach responsible, age appropriate sex education, includingthe proper use of birth control, you are eroding the fiber of society. - If, while governor, you staunchly advocate abstinence only, with no other option in sex education in your state's school system whileyour unwed teen daughter ends up pregnant, you're very responsible. - If your wife is a Harvard graduate lawyer who gave up a position ina prestigious law firm to work for the betterment of her inner citycommunity, then gave that up to raise a family, your family's values don'trepresent America's. - If you're husband is nicknamed "First Dude", with at least oneDWIconviction and no college education, who didn't register to voteuntil age 25 and once was a member of a group that advocated the secession of Alaska from the USA, your family is extremely admirable.OK, well much clearer now. *

beatrice 6 years, 3 months ago

So she is basing what she will do as vp, in part, on what will best serve her and her family personally. Terrific. I wonder when Palin will be taking part in McCain's Town Hall meetings that he thinks are so important? My guess is, um, never. As the old saying goes, You can put lipstick on a hockey mom, but it won't make her vice presidential material.

tangential_reasoners_anonymous 6 years, 3 months ago

"Vice presidential candidate Sarah Palin said Monday she would concentrate on...energy-impotent ( infertile? )government reform-nebuloushelping families with special-needs children-isolated( not that special-needs children are not of the highest priority,but, really... child becomes poster child...? ) Oh, and you can put hockey on a lipstick mom, and... well... if it sticks... then time to work overtime on that vice-presidential material.

just_another_bozo_on_this_bus 6 years, 3 months ago

" all they do (and have done since January 2007, is to subpeona, investigate, stall on legislation, hold hearings and disrupt the peoples business. "You're right, they should have just conducted an impeachment over very real abuses of power and the constitution, as opposed to the trivial machinations over BJ's that occupied Congress between 1994 and 2000.

RedwoodCoast 6 years, 3 months ago

Yep, the McCain/Palin ticket is a farce.By the way, don't the elderly often qualify as 'special needs?' Will we have a special needs President?

dandelion 6 years, 3 months ago

You might want to go to factcheck.org and get correct information on your sex education claim.I went there Big Dog, and he favored a bill to make sure that our students are getting responsible sex education, and to make small children aware of what bad touching and rape is. Molesters get away with their crimes, because young children don't always understand what is being done to them. Why is this type of education a bad thing? Will it interfere with any of your activities if young children know that they are being molested and report it? Is this why you are against this? Is this why McCain and Palin is against it? Makes me wonder why you wouldn't want your child to know when they are being molested.

BuffyloGal 6 years, 3 months ago

...[W]ith reference to contemporary American society, I would posit an equally important part of the puzzle: a combination due to Oscar Wilde and Leon Festinger. Wilde famously quipped that "Hypocrisy is the tribute that vice pays to virtue." And Festinger, an important social psychologist during the middle of the 20th century, demonstrated that individuals continue to hold on to views, despite (or even because) the empirical evidence against them mounts.Consider these facts. The right wing says it cares about groups, rather than individuals; and yet it favors the most rampant form of 'dog-eat-dog' capitalism. The left wing is suspicious of markets and wants to even the playing field across citizens. The right wing claims that its positions will reduce crime and strengthen the families. Yet it is the most left wing states that have the lowest crime rate and the strongest, most stable marriages. Happiness ratings are highest in the socialist societies, while lowest in right wing authoritarian societies. This list could be extended.Why, then, do right wing partisans ignore this evidence and continue to support policies that are patently dysfunctional? I believe it is because, having stated a position, based on either their own family values or those dictated by their religion, they are loathe to change their minds and declare that they have been wrong. And so, following Festinger, the disconfirming evidence causes them (or at least many of them) to dig in their heels more deeply.Another element operates as well. Right wing positions are more frequently associated with Protestant evangelicals and with traditional (Reagan) Catholics. Often the leaders of these groups (e.g. television evangelists, sinning priests) epitomize the opposite of the stated values. But both of these groups embrace forgiveness, absolution, being born again. Other groups-atheists, non-fundamentalist Jews and non-fundamentalist Protestants-do not have the option of absolution; they make firmer demands on themselves and are oppressed by their superegos. Note the 'pass' that non-combatants Bush and Cheney received, in comparison to Gore and Kerry who volunteered to serve during the Vietnam War. Note the forgiving attitude toward to Sarah Palin, with her sinning family, which would never be afforded a comparable Democrat. "What we profess is important-not what we have done".Howard Gardner, psychologist, Harvard Univ.

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