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KC crowd welcomes Obama

Lawrence residents among supporters at rally

Democratic presidential candidate Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., addresses the crowd during a rally Saturday at the Liberty Memorial in Kansas City, Mo.

Democratic presidential candidate Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., addresses the crowd during a rally Saturday at the Liberty Memorial in Kansas City, Mo.

October 18, 2008


Several Lawrence residents participate in Obama rally

A few Lawrence residents made the journey to Kansas City on Saturday afternoon to join in a rally supporting Sen. Barack Obama's bid for the White House. Enlarge video

Election 2008

In-depth coverage of the candidates and the issues, all leading up to the Aug. 5 primary and the Nov. 4 general election.

Among 75,000 exuberant supporters, Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama gave a twilight address Saturday at the Liberty Memorial in Kansas City, Mo.

And while highlighting the Iraq war, education, the economy and the uncertainty of modern times, he returned to his motif of hope, change and aspiration.

"I know folks are worried," he said. "But I believe we can steer ourselves out of this crisis because I believe in this country."

Throughout his speech, he reaffirmed his policies and continued saying that his opponent, Sen. John McCain, had been bombarding him with negative campaigning and out-of-touch statements.

The crowd was eclectic: Some were Kansas City residents and others were University of Missouri students. Many Lawrence residents also made the 45-minute trip with a common sentiment: that Obama's speech would be history in the making.

Take Liz Williams, for example. A employee for Lawrence Parks and Recreation, she said she thought Obama's speech would be ringing in spectators' heads for quite a while.

"It's one of those history-making things. Whether he wins or not, he's still an important person in our nation's history," Williams said. "He's just a man, after all. But I'm excited to hear what he has to say."

During his speech, Obama joked about his ability to bring two opposing groups of people together: fans of Kansas and Missouri universities.

Kurt Close, a freshman at the University of Missouri, said such an event transcended school rivalries.

"We're all here for the same reason," he said, wearing a Mizzou shirt. "I like the fact that these two schools come together."

Studie Red Corn, a 2008 Kansas University graduate, voiced a similar opinion: that, in the end, the unification of a group under a single cause was the important underlying issue.

"In essence, it's great for all those people to be there," he said. "It's a place for everyone to get together and appreciate the guy."

Obama's speech was preceded by a charged speech from U.S. Rep. Emanuel Cleaver, D-Mo., who declared, "We have had enough of politics as usual in Washington.

"Let me declare before the whole world," he said, "this is Obama territory."

Kansas Gov. Kathleen Sebelius also spoke at the event, voicing her support for Obama and other Kansans who are running for political office.

And even though much of the speech was geared toward the bellwether state of Missouri, plenty of Kansans attended just to see Obama in person.

Tyler Means, a Kansas University graduate student, said he liked how the senator appealed to his ideals.

He chose to come to Kansas City for the Obama speech instead of watching the Kansas-Oklahoma football game.

"I could watch Oklahoma beat Kansas any day," he said.


Bladerunner 9 years, 8 months ago

I cant read the whole article cuz of the damned advertisement....and no apparent way to make it go away! thx for nutton!

AjiDeGallina 9 years, 8 months ago

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Corey Williams 9 years, 8 months ago

Marion Lynn (Marion Lynn) says:"An odd choice of a gathering site for Barack Hussein Obama and his minions, considering the reputation of the place."Hey man, I'm sorry. Did the rally last night get in the way of your cruising last night? Oh and maybe, just maybe, the reason Obama went to the Liberty memorial is because it's the only WW1 memorial in the country. And maybe, just maybe that should mean something more to some people. But as you pointed out, and I'll have to take your word for it, the place has a "reputation."

Jaylee 9 years, 8 months ago

ilikestuff (Anonymous) says:Obama: quite simply he's delusional or dishonest..that.... oooooooor you have been conditioned these past few years to believe that the american dream is command and conquer whilst not only sputtering but imposing opinions rather than living a good life with your family, including but not limited to having a secure job, decent, affordable healthcare, and an education to brag about?

BigPrune 9 years, 8 months ago

Like brain washed automatons, his fans showed up.I'm still waiting for substance from this guy. He has flip flopped all over the place.If Powell goes the way of Oprah and endorses Obama this morning, the stock market is going to tank come Monday - just watch.

hornhunter 9 years, 8 months ago

bennyo,I have a lot of respect for Gen. Powell, but he just lost a lot of respect from me and others when he backed Obumer. How can you not say that was not done from a certain color palette? beo,Obumers, wife does talk as if she is a racistWhitey

hornhunter 9 years, 8 months ago

beobachter (Anonymous) says:As Obama increases his margin of victory, the more shrill and panicky the McSame and bimbo supporters become.It's not over till the fat lady singsOr are you a fat lady who can't hold a tune in a bucket?

andreainkansas 9 years, 8 months ago

ilikestuff:Correct me if I misinterpret your comment, but it sounds like you're saying, "Instead of voting for the guy who has lots of great ideas and perhaps can only accomplish a percentage of his visionary platform in one term, I'm gonna go ahead and vote for the guy that says, 'Yeah, I'm not gonna do s@#t for you people.'"Forgive me, but I just don't get such thinking.

neverforget 9 years, 8 months ago

According to the : Marginal tax rates will rise to over 50% on some middle-income families if Senator Obama's tax plan becomes law. There is an economic importance of "marginal" tax rates and why they can differ dramatically from "statutory" tax rates.An often neglected aspect of the tax plan is how it will alter effective marginal tax rates, the amount of tax that people pay out of their LAST dollar of income.The concept of a marginal tax rate is important because it determines how much a taxpayer gets to keep when making various decisions, such as how much to work or save. High marginal tax rates can be economically harmful because some decisions may be based more on tax considerations than on economic merit.Statutory tax rates are set to rise fairly gently as our incomes rise. But the schedule for a taxpayer's effective marginal tax rate -- what one pays on the last dollar of income -- is a very different story. That tax rate careens up and down, veering well below zero and well above the statutory rates. They can be very high for taxpayers with modest income."Senator Obama's new and expanded tax credits for low-income taxpayers will certainly cut taxes for low-income people, but the credits are mostly recaptured from middle-income taxpayers. Marginal tax rates shoot up, causing economically damaging side effects. As a result, for example, a family of four in the $30,000-to-$43,000 range would discover that for every additional dollar they earn, they pay more than 50 cents in income tax.The already negative marginal tax rates for low-income taxpayers drop further, due to his proposals to expand the EITC and for a new "Making Work Pay" credit. The new credit would equal 6.2% of the first $8,100 of a worker's wages, and it would phase out for moderate-income taxpayers. Both of these provisions would sharply reduce marginal tax rates for taxpayers with the lowest earnings, reducing their combined income and payroll tax rates to MINUS 58.6%."

BigPrune 9 years, 8 months ago

I think the majority of Americans see this endorsement as a "black thing." Don't start calling me a racist because it's the truth. After all, what inexperienced liberal white guy or gal has Powell ever endorsed? Name one.

labmonkey 9 years, 8 months ago your car door, hold on to the car with both hands, and have someone slam the door on your fingers about 10 times. This way you will stop typing stupid posts that make all people voting for McCain look bad. You do much more harm than good. You are like the overzealous Christain who ends up turning people away from God instead of bringing them closer. The prospect of a Liberal president and congress scares the hell out of me, and people like you tend to push those in the middle toward the left. Stop. The Republican party would be much better off without the likes of you. Hornhunter- stop breaking Godwin's Law.

seattlehawk_78 9 years, 8 months ago

ilikestuff:You're probably right about the taxes. Republicans used to be the party of angry people who were good with money. Now they are the party of angry people. They spend money like there is no tomorrow, a disturbing trend initiated by Reagan. Their lack of fiscal responsibility will force the next administration to raise taxes. Question is, who will bear the burden of those taxes.

Corey Williams 9 years, 8 months ago

"I thought buying an election was the first thing on your list of shrill and panicky whining the past eight years?"Speaking for myself, Mr Nancy Boy, it's not so much about buying an election as it is having the supreme court appointing the "winner." That and making sure that all eligible voters can vote legally.

ronwell_dobbs 9 years, 8 months ago

Man, nothing like a transformational leader entering the world stage to shake the nutjobs out of the wallpaper and into the bright light for a few minutes.

BigPrune 9 years, 8 months ago

We'll just have to wait and see IF the Powell endorsement means anything at all. Last I read, McCain had cut Obama's lead to 3 points.I'm also interested in seeing if the stock market dumps on Monday, or if it will wait if Obama gets a bounce in the polls by Powell's endorsement.I still would like to see if Powell ever endorsed an inexperienced liberal white guy or gal in his lifetime.Frankly, I am not surprised by Powell's endorsement since Powell is seen as a liberal within Republican ranks anyway.

BigPrune 9 years, 8 months ago

Powell's talking points were almost verbatim Democratic Party language. As for race, name one inexperienced white guy or gal Powell has ever endorsed in his life?It's kind of hard to denounce Obama's policies when he doesn't seem to have a policy, other than big government. Yet, his statement to "Joe the Plumber" about wanting to "spread the wealth around" says a lot, it says socialism. "Spread the wealth around" (through taxation of small businesses) + bigger government = socialism.- Incidentally, there are a lot of small businesses making more than $250,000 a year.Speaking of spreading the wealth around, I wonder if Mr. Obama's half brother in Kenya is living off more than his $12 per year income since Barack made $4 million last year? I wonder if Barack slipped him a $20 on his last visit?

neverforget 9 years, 8 months ago

and yes I know about Socialism - I used to live in a Socialist country.

antney 9 years, 8 months ago

I went. It was awesome. Stood in line for hours. We walked all the way around Liberty Memorial and there seemed to be no end to the line. The diversity of people who came out to watch Sen. Obama was absolutely amazing. Families, students, vets, plumbers, black, white, asian, hispanic, christians, muslim, buddhists... This campaign really is about bringing people together.Early voting starts Monday.

verity 9 years, 8 months ago

Please, fellow Obama supporters, do not stoop to name-calling, ad hominem attacks and general nastiness. Discussion of and disagreement on the issues is one thing, but fanning the anger is unnecessary, wrong and self-defeating.When this election is over, we all need to come together for the good of our country.

Boeing 9 years, 8 months ago

Obama or not, I will NOT make friends with anyone at Mizzou :)

Maddy Griffin 9 years, 8 months ago

Shewmon you need to get over yourself. When Farrakhan talked about " a new beginning for the Nation", he was talking about the Nation of Islam. They arew getting ready to rededicate the mosque inChicago and they are incorporating more "real" Islamic beliefs. Why is being a Muslim such a bad thing in this countyry??! What ever happened to Freedom of Speech in this country? Oh, yeah Bush and his bunch tried to destroy our rights under the constitution and it didn't work.

introversion 9 years, 8 months ago

Yesterday was a great gathering of thousands. It was diverse, peaceful, hopeful and positive! Glad we made the drive.

DaREEKKU 9 years, 8 months ago

Some of you people need to be put on a sinking island for your blatantly delusional, racist, pigheaded, uneducated and erroneous comments.

alm77 9 years, 8 months ago

Some of us have no choice. They're family.

hornhunter 9 years, 8 months ago

This campaign really is about sheep herding people together.Hitler would be proud

Gareth Skarka 9 years, 8 months ago

Remember kids -- let the rightwingers rant and screech. Just take a deep breath, and remind yourself that on November 5th, you'll be able to tell them what they said to everyone else in 2000 and 2004:"You Lost. Get Over It."Savor it.

neverforget 9 years, 8 months ago

it's pure economics - anyone can figure that out for themselves......... if they analyze. Good luck America

Confrontation 9 years, 8 months ago

It's funny to see Tom still trying to hide his "white power brotherhood" membership.

ilikestuff 9 years, 8 months ago

Obama... quite simply he's delusional or dishonest. Either his administration won't provide the extensive array of services promised while campaigning or taxes will be raised significantly on far more people than indicated thus far.

pusscanthropus 9 years, 8 months ago

What did "W" call democrats? "The angry left"? Look who's angry now!!!

JohnBrown 9 years, 8 months ago

I look forward to a president who will honor his oath to "preserve and protect the Constitution of the United States".

neverforget 9 years, 8 months ago

Senator Obama phases these provisions out in his tax plan, which causes effective marginal tax rates to rise for moderate'income taxpayers. He also expands the child and dependent care credit and begins to phase down this expansion at $30,000 of income. The combination of the phase-out of the EITC, the "Making Work Pay" credit, and the child and dependent care credit pushes the effective marginal tax rate to as high as 51.7%. The taxpayer who benefits from all these provisions at a lower income discovers that he gets to keep less than 1/2 of every additional dollar of earnings in the roughly $30,000-to-$43,000 range."Most low and Moderate-income couples would see their effective marginal tax rates rise, in some cases, significantly. Indeed, some low- and moderate-income taxpayers will see their marginal rates rise to more than 50%""High-income taxpayers can also expect their effective marginal tax rates to rise -- to 47.2%. This increase is caused by rolling back the 2001 and 2003 reductions in the top two tax rates, curtailing deductions and exemptions at high income levels, and potentially raising Social Security taxes."Senator Obama has also promised that all seniors making less than $50,000 per year will pay NO taxes. But what he has NOT said, and what is very important is what those seniors will pay in taxes on their 50,000th dollar or just a few hundred dollars above that. And it is a huge difference. He has NO phase-in plan for these seniors that are close to this line he has drawn in the sand. So supposing a senior couple who currently makes $49,750 per year decides that they want to sell off their stamp collection for $250 and they report the income. They now have crossed into Obama's great sea of "rich elderly people" and will now pay over $3,000 in taxes!Senator Obama's "distribute the wealth" stinks of Socialism!

Keith 9 years, 8 months ago

Why is the right so angry? Move over Bush Delusional Syndrome, it's time for Barack Delusional Syndrome.

KEITHMILES05 9 years, 8 months ago

White people have for years and years looked at eveyrthing through their eyes.There has always been the other side of issues. Nothing wrong with people expressing their views THROUGH their eyes.

Gareth Skarka 9 years, 8 months ago

Still waiting to hear from Marion over which clause of the Constitution backs up his claim that "spreading the wealth" is "unconstitutional".....

Gareth Skarka 9 years, 8 months ago

"he's had 4 years to pass some type of legislation of meaning and has done nothing"You mean, aside from these: of which have been signed into law, include those dealing with Lobbyist reforms, nuclear proliferation, Veteran's health programs, and transparency in government spending.I mean, come on guys -- I know that actually knowing stuff isn't too big on the ol' right-wing list of priorities, but you really should read up on the stuff you're going to screech about -- that way, you might avoid looking like a complete chucklehead.

sdinges 9 years, 8 months ago

BigPrune - The most recent issue of Time magazine states that statistically 97-100 percent of black people (who vote) plan to vote for Obama.With 9 out of 10 covers having his picture on it, and nearly all of the articles about him being distinctly positive, I was starting to think Time was having some kind of love affair with Obama...But maybe Time is racist too.

verity 9 years, 8 months ago

"name one inexperienced white guy or gal Powell has ever endorsed in his life?"How about George W. Bush in 2000?And you didn't think this up, prune, it came directly from Rush Limbaugh.

a_flock_of_jayhawks 9 years, 8 months ago

BigPrune says..."I still would like to see if Powell ever endorsed an inexperienced liberal white guy or gal in his lifetime."Powell donated to the McCain campaign in 07.

Gareth Skarka 9 years, 8 months ago

"The you'd better hope that John McCain is elected because it is not contstitutional to "spread the wealth around." as intends Barack Hussein Obama."Really, Marion? What Article and Section deals with that?Here, I'll make it easy for you: ahead and read it, and then tell us where you're getting"interesting" interpretation from.We'll wait.

tongaloid 9 years, 8 months ago

for the life of me i can't figure out why if BHO is such a great leader and has such wonderful ideas he has not turned any of these great ideas into a bill in the senate. he's had 4 years to pass some type of legislation of meaning and has done nothing. could it be he doesn't have enough in the senate behind him to do this or perhaps what he says is "just words, just speeches".i just saw another BHO ad on tv that said mccain wants to cut medicare/medicaid by $$xxx billion blah blah blah. then it said we can't afford mccain. that is strange to me that if you want to cut spending all of a sudden you can't afford to do that.... everyone needs to understand we need across the board cuts, eliminate what is not granted to the feds by the Constitution, remove taxes on cap gains, remove taxes on savings and give everyone a tax reduction on income (no more class warfare) and not create $1trillion in new government spending.

a_flock_of_jayhawks 9 years, 8 months ago

Tom Shewmon (Tom Shewmon) says:"Well now, three former sc'y/states and 200 generals have endorsed McCain" says 100, not 200 flag officers. Exaggeration or ? Care to explain?

a_flock_of_jayhawks 9 years, 8 months ago

Tom Shewmon (Tom Shewmon) says:"If you want to trust wiki and not McCain's own site:.go ahead. Not surprised."Well, given the market gloom and doom that you predicted didn't materialize, we know who not to trust = you. Continue on in your little dream world.

JohnBrown 9 years, 8 months ago

Marion, we just saw the largest transfer of wealth, about $700 billion, which is still going on today, all by YOUR guy.I'm more concerned about the suspension of Habeas Corpus, Gitmo et al., torture, the adoption of "guilty by accusation", and the spying on regular Americans by the NSA. These are all steps away from the Constitution, and steps towards a Czarist practice of government. Your worry about "taxes" is miniscule in comparison, since these changes can always be reversed in the future.

a_flock_of_jayhawks 9 years, 8 months ago

On second thought, it may be impossible for the GOP in it's current form to change their tune, primarily because they have painted everyone not in their camp as "radicals, terrorists, un-American", etc. Once you have done that, in error, I might add, then it makes it impossible to even entertain the notion of compromise. In doing so, they have thrown the American people's best interests under the bus in an attempt for sole control. Fools!

deec 9 years, 8 months ago

I guess the 175,000 people who rallied in Missouri yesterday for Obama were all liberals? Didn't know there were so many in these parts...

bad_dog 9 years, 8 months ago

"They probably don't know a thing about Obama other than whatever demagogue style rhetoric that has seeped through their skulls. I come right out and ask if someone ID's themselves as an Obama supporter and the stock answer I get is "We just need a change". After that, forget it."Kind of like your response that you're not voting FOR McCain as much as AGAINST Obama? That's some critical thinking, indeed.

preebo 9 years, 8 months ago

My family and I were there in Kansas City and it was an exciting experience to have my young son ask me how important the event was. It was my son, daughter, wife's first political rally. I am glad we were able to see him one time before his possible election. According to the reports, there were 75,000 people at the event. To be completely honest, I would not be suprised in the least.GO-bama 2008!!!

a_flock_of_jayhawks 9 years, 8 months ago

Tom Shewmon (Tom Shewmon) says:"We understand the miserable far-left crowd will vote for Obama anyway, he's a perfect fit with his radical and socialist ties."The main problem out of many with your statement here is "understand". It seems to me that there is no real understanding involved on your part with the sweeping generalization you make to fit anyone who doesn't happen see things your way. It is so much easier for you to just put up a wall and label everything on the other side. The American people thirst for an arrangement where an attempt is made to reach common ground, possibly compromise. During the past decade, it has become painfully obvious to Americans that there is little room at all for that in the current state of conservative US politics, at least at the national level. Let's hope that those that remain in office can change their tune and bring their best ideas forward for the good of everyone when they are left with no choice but to either engage or be left behind. And let's hope that compromises find their way back into our political process.

Gareth Skarka 9 years, 8 months ago

"I come right out and ask if someone ID's themselves as an Obama supporter and the stock answer I get is "We just need a change". After that, forget it."Then I challenge you, Tom -- go ahead and post a blog entry with that question. Go ahead.You'll get very detailed answers -- none of which will be "we just need a change."Of course, you won't do this, because you're a coward blowhard just like Limbaugh, McCain and the rest of your kind.

a_flock_of_jayhawks 9 years, 8 months ago

Right on, logic. The more they talk, the more ridiculous and outrageous they sound.

gaiapapaya 9 years, 8 months ago

I don't know KC very well. We made the drive and found a place to park at Penn Valley park. I figured it would be well lit when we returned. It wasn't. The tennis courts and skate park were black. Unknown to me, Penn Valley is a "cruising park" at night. I was actually glad all those guys were there. I would have felt more uncomfortable returning to a dark, empty lot than to some guys who just want to hook up in the woods. We had a fabulous time and my kids talked last night and today about how great the speech was. They can't wait to talk about it in school tomorrow.

AjiDeGallina 9 years, 8 months ago

Marion, perhaps your repeated quoting of a holocaust deniar as a legitimate source of information might make me think that.Hmm.All you goofballs who keep whining the repeated lie (making you nothing more than repeat liars) that Obama is a socialist...are you folks so utterly ignorant that you do not realized that it was a Bush Plan that socialized our banking system?...of course only to spread the loss to all the people..not the profits.Socialism is suddenly become very popular with the GOP.

tongaloid 9 years, 8 months ago

from wikipediaObama has sponsored 136 bills since Jan 4, 2005. Two have become law. Now what were the 2 items of such importance that he authored and passed? from thomas library of congress1. S.CON.RES.42 : A concurrent resolution recognizing the historical significance of the Juneteenth Independence Day, and expressing the sense of Congress that history should be regarded as a means for understanding the past and solving the challenges of the future. (you are familiar with Juneteenth aren't you? I didn't check wikipedia. I lived in Texas and I am very familiar and "actually know stuff". Look it up.)2. S.CON.RES.53 : A concurrent resolution expressing the sense of Congress that any effort to impose photo identification requirements for voting should be rejected.(what, make voter fraud easier, that's important)3. S.RES.291 : A resolution to congratulate the Chicago White Sox on winning the 2005 World Series Championship. (how many people were helped to get health care from this???)4. S.RES.516 - same as #1 above (really hung up on Juneteenth)5. S.RES.529 : A resolution designating July 13, 2006, as "National Summer Learning Day". (what is he wanting everyone to learn?)A quick scan through these and I didn't find any items that he has authored that he currently has on his presidential platform. Why?

tongaloid 9 years, 8 months ago

for those that ask to find where spreading the wealth is located in the constitution, it's not there.the constitution was written to grant powers to the federal government not to limit the states and people rights. any power not delegated to the federal government is reserved to the states or to the people (10th ammendment). once the government gets our tax $$ i suppose they can pretty much do as they wish with it, even redistribute wealth, unless it is tested in court to be outside the powers of the constitution. i doubt that will happen since that would open other non-constitutional spending to the same.notice how i didn't use the word socialism? i didn't want to be called a racist since socialism is a code word for black.... amazing how intolerant the party of tolerance has become.

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