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Mo. voter registration fraud suspected

October 9, 2008

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— Officials in Missouri, a hard-fought jewel in the presidential race, are sifting through possibly hundreds of questionable or duplicate voter-registration forms submitted by an advocacy group that has been accused of election fraud in other states.

Charlene Davis, co-director of the election board in Jackson County, said many of the forms came from the Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now, or ACORN. She said they were bogging down work Wednesday, the final day Missourians could register to vote.

The nonpartisan group works to recruit low-income voters, who tend to lean Democratic. In bellwether Missouri, polls show Republican presidential candidate John McCain and Democrat Barack Obama appear to have pulled even.

Jess Ordower, Midwest director of ACORN, said his group hasn't done any registrations in Kansas City since late August. He said he was told three weeks ago by election officials that there were only about 135 questionable cards - 85 of them duplicates.

FBI spokeswoman Bridget Patton said the agency plans to investigate.

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bondmen 6 years, 9 months ago

Voters with the proper political perspective and understanding how the real world works - that is, folks who load the wagon - must register to vote and show up on election day to drown out the bogus registrations proffered by illegal voters (the dead and dogs) living at non existent addresses who by and large support the most socialist, fascist candidates.

just_another_bozo_on_this_bus 6 years, 9 months ago

"Showing an ID should be required:period. It is simple. If you are too freakin' stupid to be able to obtain an ID, you should be disenfrancised."Not having an ID usually has nothing to do with the level of intelligence. Most of those who don't have ID's are poor, or elderly, or both. So given that there is almost no voter fraud that will be prevented by a requirement to show ID, don't you wonder why all the hysteria over voter ID requirements? Do you suppose it has to do with the fact that most of those who don't have ID's tend to vote the "wrong way?"The hysteria of over voter ID's is exactly the same as the ACORN hysteria-- voter suppression of those who will likely vote the "wrong way."

just_another_bozo_on_this_bus 6 years, 9 months ago

More breathless ACORN hysteria. You want to know how much actual voting fraud has come out of ACORN's voter registration drives? None, zero, nada. Current practices by election officers throughout the country mean that it is impossible to succeed in any sort of significant voting fraud through voter registration fraud-- it's just too easily detected, and there is absolutely no incentive for individual voters to do it.But why all the hysteria? Primarily because groups like ACORN have managed to register hundreds of thousands of eligible voters, but most of them are poor, and they tend to vote the "wrong way" in the eyes of the Republican Party. So true to Republican form, they are exaggerating a relatively minor problem of a few individual canvassers committing registration fraud in order to collect a little more money for their work, and are engaging in a typical Goebbels propaganda technique of repeating a lie, knowing full well that sheeple like those posting above will accept it as "truth," and poor people who vote the "wrong way" can be disenfranchised.

SettingTheRecordStraight 6 years, 9 months ago

All the more reason that voters MUST present proper photo ID when casting their ballot. There is no easier, more commonsense way to reduce voter fraud than to prove you are who you say you are.

TheOriginalCA 6 years, 9 months ago

WTF??? "The nonpartisan group works to recruit low-income voters, who tend to lean Democratic."How is that nonpartisan? LMAO

Flap Doodle 6 years, 9 months ago

beo, there's a handy thing called "google". You can use it to find all sorts of interesting things. Such as:http://sayanythingblog.com/entry/more_voter_registration_shenanigans_indianapolis_has_105_of_its_population/Do some homework & get back to us when you get up to speed, okay?

BrianR 6 years, 9 months ago

"This is largely the root cause of the financial crisis."Have you read a news story in the past year?

just_another_bozo_on_this_bus 6 years, 9 months ago

I asked for evidence of actual vote fraud, Tom, not evidence that some canvassers have falsified voter registrations, which might (temporarily) help pad these individuals' pay checks, but will have zero effect on the outcome of any election.Care to try again?

Flap Doodle 6 years, 9 months ago

The number of people now registered to vote in Indianapolis is greater than the number of residents who are eligible to vote.

BrianR 6 years, 9 months ago

Tom Shewmon (Tom Shewmon) says:"If this were some rural, right-wing org., bozo would be screaming, "FRAUD"!!!!"That is true however, it is a left-leaning group so you are screaming "FRAUD"!!!!You two are different sides of the same coin. Not that that is a bad thing, it kind of balances things out a bit. It remains to be seen whether it is intentional fraud or if people are uninformed (dumb) enough to register more than once.

Flap Doodle 6 years, 9 months ago

The O'dude's campaign has poured $800,000 into acorn. What do you think he's bought with all that money?

alm77 6 years, 9 months ago

What do they think would happen when they started paying criminals to get voters registered, and requiring quotas? A true voter drive would have teams comprised of members of both parties going door to door.

BigDog 6 years, 9 months ago

Is this anything like the "educating the idiots" campaign that the AFL-CIO headed in Colorado?Nice to see what the high and mighty think of those who help them keep their power.The internal memo is on the second link.Face The State Staff ReportIn a confidential internal memorandum obtained by Face The State (PDF), the Colorado Democracy Alliance outlines a roster of "operatives" who worked for Democratic victory in the 2006 general election. The document outlines specific tasks for various members of the state's liberal infrastructure, including a campaign to "educate the idiots," assigned to the state's AFL-CIO union. Among the operation's intended targets: "minorities, GED's, drop-outs."Article:http://facethestate.com/articles/democracy-alliance-memo-details-dem-plan-educate-idiots-and-target-minoritiesDocument:http://facethestate.com/downloads/coda-web/strategygroup.pdf

MaryKatesPillStash 6 years, 9 months ago

Have any of you ever worked for an organization like this? I'm guessing not. So let me tell you how it works.First off--Obama is NOT "behind" this. ACORN has been around for quite some time. ACORN cannot, by law, advocate for any particular candidate. Instead, they advocate for change in policy on several issues. Yes, they target those who are likely to vote Democratic. Yes, they often give speeches about change that clearly demonstrate their loyalty to the Democratic Party. But they are not supposed to attempt to persuade anyone to vote for a particular party...only to vote for change.ACORN (and similar groups, regardless of party affiliation) pays its workers to canvass neighborhoods--go door-to-door on pre-determined routes, targeting folks who are likely to be democrat to register to vote. The canvassers are dropped off in a neighborhood by a driver, and are told to walk up both sides of the street for all streets, often keeping track of where they've been by using a palm pilot or route list. As the election season progresses, the canvassers are often required to obtain a specified number of new voter registrations. In the organization that I worked for, we were required to get at least 5 per day. If we did not, we'd be placed on probation...and if the trend continued, we'd lose our jobs. It's kind of like sales. When you aren't signing new people up, you get stressed. Some people who don't know any better will sign people up who are already registered to vote or who are, for some reason, ineligible to vote. These contribute to the "fraudulent" voter registrations. Some people make up names or get little kids to sign the form. Is this directly Obama's fault? No. It's not even directly ACORN's fault...if they determine that someone has been fraudulently registering voters, they fire that employee.

allateup 6 years, 9 months ago

Beobatcher says......"snap, you posted it. I simply asked for proof. Can't you prove your claims using reputable sources? Anybody can post anything on web, that doesn't make it true or accurate. What you are saying is meaningless without simply providing some valid sources for your claim. Blogs are not valid sources, they are someone's belief's, true or not".Touche!

jmadison 6 years, 9 months ago

Voter fraud stinks and our politicians and judiciary turn a blind eye.

TheOriginalCA 6 years, 9 months ago

Do a Google search for (Acorn subrpime lending). Obama is all over this. This is largely the root cause of the financial crisis.

verity 6 years, 9 months ago

Marion quoting the New York Post (which, if I recall correctly, is not exactly known for it's creditibility)."She added that she never put down an address on any of the registration forms, just her name."Well, I'm sure she is going to be able to vote numerous times.

BigPrune 6 years, 9 months ago

BP Prediction on a future Obama tactic: Jimmy Carter will monitor OUR elections due to allegations of voter fraud. This will nip the ACORN voter fraud in the bud especially since Carter supports Obama.And what about the American people and press? They will swallow it hook, line and sinker that Obama is on top of this travesty and doing all he can to make this election above board.

just_another_bozo_on_this_bus 6 years, 9 months ago

"WTF??? "The nonpartisan group works to recruit low-income voters, who tend to lean Democratic."How is that nonpartisan? LMAO"It's no more partisan than conservative churches conducting voter registration drives within their congregations. The individual voters are still free to cast their secret ballots any way they wish.

just_another_bozo_on_this_bus 6 years, 9 months ago

" ACORN has been involved in voter fraud nationwide."If that is true, why is there no evidence of it?

james bush 6 years, 9 months ago

All this negativity about the Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now!? Don't you people understand that this is Obama's grassroots, his base, his reason for running for president?

independent_rebel 6 years, 9 months ago

Why does ACORN sign up/create/invent produce so many fraudulent registration forms? Coming from a female I used to work with who was involved with ACORN in Chicago.1. To overwhelm and confuse the election officials monitoring the registration process. The more forms they submit--and seriously, they put names such as Jimmy Johns, JC Penny, etc. on the forms--the more that "legitimate" looking, but fraudulent forms, slip through.2. To get fraudulent votes. How? There are some states that allow same day registration and voting. So folks can go from place to place and vote multiple times. ACORN actually drives/busses many of these individuals.

Flap Doodle 6 years, 8 months ago

ACORN Files Voting Rights Suit on Behalf of Imaginary-AmericansST. LOUIS - Attorneys for the voting registration organizations ACORN and Project Vote filed an anti-discrimination voting rights suit in the U.S. Federal District court this morning, alleging the United States government is involved in "a widespread, systematic effort to disenfranchise Imaginary-Americans and deprive them of access to polls.""Participation in our electoral process is a fundamental right, and the foundation of our democracy," said ASDF ASDFG, a spokesperson for the National Association for the Advancement of Imaginary People, one of the groups named as plaintiffs in the class action. "We will not be silent when government denies people access to the polls on the basis of color, or sex, or existential status."http://iowahawk.typepad.com/iowahawk/2008/10/acorn-files-vot.html

Mixolydian 6 years, 9 months ago

It doesn't matter if ACORN publicly supports Obama. It wouldn't matter if they supported McCain or Paul or Nader. To me that's a non-issue.Voter fraud hits at the very fabric of our government. No one here wants their vote diluted or nullified because of a fraudulent vote. The DOJ has to come down hard on this. It's time to trot out RICO on ACORN. One dumb acronym for another.

towanda54 6 years, 8 months ago

Well, McCain has had a very friendly relationship with ACORN in the very recent past. Now that registering more Democrats than Republicans, it's a problem for him.http://www.acorn.org/index.php?id=4174&tx_ttnews[tt_news]=22386&tx_ttnews[backPid]=2716&cHash=b76dc68957

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