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Former church youth leader testifies in indecent liberties case

October 2, 2008

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A former Lawrence church youth leader accused of having sex with a 15-year-old girl said Thursday in his defense the two did not have sexual intercourse until after she turned 16.

The 38-year-old man, who has moved out of the state and is now married, has since not been allowed to become a minister after the allegations came to light. From the stand, he expressed remorse about the relationship but said he didn't commit a crime.

"It's by far the dumbest thing I've ever done in my life," he said.

The man faces one charge of aggravated indecent liberties with a child, because prosecutors accuse him of having a three-year sexual relationship with the former member of his youth group.

The girl came forward in 2007, several years after the reported sexual abuse, but the two sides disagree about whether the sexual intercourse began when the girl was 15 or 16, which is the age of consent.

The Journal-World generally does not publish the names of sex crime suspects unless they are convicted. The trial will resume Friday.

Comments

somebodynew 6 years, 2 months ago

frwent - while I respect your right to disagree about the outcome of your particular case and the right to voice your opinion - you are becoming a lot like Smitty.Your side had competent representation (not sure who it was, so I assume they were competent) and a judge made rulings on some of the issues you rant about. Obviously, you do not like them, but that does NOT mean the PD and the System is corrupt and worthless. Please save your rants (or have breakfast with Smitty so you two can vent). I know the LPD may have some problems, but they are not the root of all evil in Douglas County.

bialekkson 6 years, 2 months ago

her statement alone would not have called for a trial. there had to be other witnesses.....

bialekkson 6 years, 2 months ago

they are not the root of evil, they just the muscle for the evil.......

Sigmund 6 years, 2 months ago

bialekkson (Anonymous) says: "Only in Douglas Jerkwater County Kansas do you see garbage like this:::.."Cases like this happen daily nationwide.

Buggie7 6 years, 2 months ago

frwent give it arrest. In the case you are speaking the person was guilty. This person was NOT railroaded. This person (which I guess I could speak his name since he is guilty and on the KBI site but ill be nice and not post it ) needs to give it a rest and take responsibility for his actions. LPD did a wonderful job in the case. The DA not so much by letting the idiot plea when there was loads of proof!

Sigmund 6 years, 2 months ago

bialekkson (Anonymous) says: "How could this be at trial if the prosecution cannot already prove sex before 16? why is there even a trial at all?"You only have trials when the facts are disputed. Testimony of the complaining witness and by the defendant is evidence and it is up to the jury to determine which they believe. If the jury believes the girls testimony, beyond a reasonable doubt, he will be found guilty. Anything less and he is not guilty.Anyone see ChristmasCarol lately?

somebodynew 6 years, 2 months ago

OK bialekkson you can join frwent and smitty at breakfast.

bialekkson 6 years, 2 months ago

but the two sides disagree about whether the sexual intercourse began when the girl was 15 or 16, which is the age of consent.what? How could this be at trial if the prosecution cannot already prove sex before 16?why is there even a trial at all?This guy does NOT have to prove the age, the PROSECUTION has 100% burden to prove...Only in Douglas Jerkwater County Kansas do you see garbage like this...........

Fred Whitehead Jr. 6 years, 2 months ago

Buggie7 There was no proof. Sombody new . I have written proof on paper created by the LPD of violations of he U..S. Constitutional rights to security from illegal search and seizure and violation by Lawrence police officders of Miranda rights representation. This was disregarded by the Lawrence Police Chief. Do not tell me to discontinue stating a clear and undeniable case of fradulant charges and phoney proceedures.

Sigmund 6 years, 2 months ago

bialekkson (Anonymous) says: "her statement alone would not have called for a trial. there had to be other witnesses:.."Nope, that is all there is.

Fred Whitehead Jr. 6 years, 2 months ago

bialwkkaon: YOu wanna bet??? All you need to be thrown in jain in Douglas County is one of Ron Olin's sterling officers to place a report with the DA Branson detailing the notions the officer has fabricated with the urging of any trailer trash that might think they have some sort of "case". No one has to verify these "reports", just the reporting officer. Then they will go to a judge, fabricate more "evidence" to the judge who will then issue a search warrant detailing the items to be seized. Then the officers will decend upon your residence, grab anything and everything they can, no mind to the Constitutional law regarding search and seizure, a clear violation of the of the 14th amendment of the U.S. Constitution detailing rights regarding search warrants and seizure. This "evidence" then becomes the property of the police department to use in any twisted and perverted manner the officers can manage. Then they will come and arrest you and put you in jail with a $10,000 bond (requires a fee of $1,000 (non-refundable) to a bail bondsman to be released from jail while the officers continue to fabricate their "case" bolstered by illegally obtained property, and consented to by Ron Olin, Chief of Police, PhD. Then you get a court apponted lawyer, who will probably hold you up for extra fees to formulate your defense, then recommend a plea bargain. The offending officers who violate your Constitutional rights against unlawful search and seizure and violate your Miranda rights of your right to presence of a lawyer during interrogation by the cops at the police station without any other witnesses will then continue to fabricate and create a fantasy for the court. Chief Olin will uphold their actions. You are guilty by the very fact that someone has pointed a finger at you, with no evidence or recourse at all. Think this is a lot of baloney. Well, it happens.

Nancy Huckeba 6 years, 2 months ago

This person betrayed trust. Not only for the victim, but for her parents, the church, and others in the youth group, our community. A lot of people have been hurt. The Lutheran Church has been damaged, as the Catholic church was. Sexual preditors hurt all of us and diminish our potential. Obviously this was not something the victim has been able to put in the past and 'move on with her life'. This is the norm for victims of sexual abuse, they just can't forget because it was something wrong that happened- and they know it. We all know it. I could have been the parent who was vocal and raised concerns that were dismissed. No one likes those who stand up and makes a fuss. No one wants to believe that seemingly 'normal' folks are sexual perverts. That is how they can do what they do. I want to warn all parents, if something seems wrong, move on. p.s.God does not live in church buildings.

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