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KU, MU reach agreement to continue Border War at Arrowhead through 2012

Fans cheer during Kansas University's game against Missouri on Nov. 24, 2007, at Arrowhead Stadium in Kansas City, Mo. Kansas and Missouri certainly did their part to close the gap in the Big 12, as the Jayhawks and Tigers played in the most high-profile conference football game of 2007.

Fans cheer during Kansas University's game against Missouri on Nov. 24, 2007, at Arrowhead Stadium in Kansas City, Mo. Kansas and Missouri certainly did their part to close the gap in the Big 12, as the Jayhawks and Tigers played in the most high-profile conference football game of 2007.

November 27, 2008, 3:07 p.m. Updated November 27, 2008, 3:19 p.m.

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Kansas and Missouri have extended their deal to play their annual football game at Arrowhead Stadium in Kansas City, Mo.

Kansas Athletics, the Kansas City Chiefs and the University of Missouri announced Thursday that they have agreed to conduct the annual Border War at the stadium for the next four years, from 2009 to 2012. Kansas will be host for the game in 2009 and 2011, while Missouri will be the "home" team in 2010 and 2012.

Thursday's announcement does not include information about financial compensation or other responsibilities, as the parties have not yet signed a contract, said Jim Marchiony, an associate athletics director at Kansas.

"We're still working out the final details," he said.

But the agreement is a commitment that the games will, in fact, be played off campus for the next four years.

"This agreement enables the University of Kansas to bring a game to the back yard of its largest alumni base," Lew Perkins, Kansas athletics director, said in a statement. "It is an outstanding opportunity to showcase this great rivalry on a terrific national stage. In addition, it gives our players the experience of competing in one of the NFL's premier stadiums - an experience they will never forget."

Last season, KU and Missouri moved their game to Arrowhead for the first time. That was KU's "home" game, which pitted the undefeated and No. 2-ranked Jayhawks against Missouri, which at the time had one loss and was ranked No. 4 nationally.

Missouri won the game, 36-28. Attendance was listed at 80,537, ranking it No. 2 on the stadium's all-time list.

This season's game, a Missouri "home" game, is set for 11:30 a.m. Saturday at Arrowhead. Missouri already has clinched the Big 12 North title, and will play in the Big 12 championship game, also at Arrowhead. Kansas, at 6-5, is bowl eligible.

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frazzled 5 years, 4 months ago

Let me point out to Danimal etc. that the academic side of KU (remember, it's a university where people study and research and learn?) does not benefit from this. The finances are separate. The academic department where I work is having to cut back on everything from hiring to office supplies, while the football team isn't using its new $30 million practice facility. The point I want to make is that you shouldn't use this as a reason to support cuts in state funding for KU.

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Fred Whitehead Jr. 5 years, 4 months ago

Oh, Yeah, this is a great deal! The K.C. television news folks love it. All that money that the fans will spend in K.C. what a great deal given that the local economy is tanking. And the suggestion that the game should be in the evening, are you listening Lew?? This will allow more money to come to town, people will stay in motels and hotels and boost the K.C. economy, hey Lew, let's get cracking on that. You are a hero to the K.C. merchants and resturant owners, you are their salvation. Go for it, Lew, screw this town and make your brand on the K.C. economy. You are the kind of guy that those Missouri merchants just love to pieces!!!!

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Pilgrim 5 years, 4 months ago

flyin_squirrel (Anonymous) says…If this years game brings in the same amount of revenue for KU as last years game, the difference between Memorial and 2 years at Arrowhead will be less than $250,000.********Show us the math. And remember, only two of the four games would have been held in Lawrence. That's $4 million guaranteed versus how much?

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Pilgrim 5 years, 4 months ago

Uhlrick_Hetfield_III (Anonymous) says…This is what happens when your Chancellor is owned by the Greater Kansas City Chamber of Commerce.Fire Hemenway. Hire someone honest.********And that is the kind of reaction you get when someone who doesn't know squat about college athletics (and was probably one of those gym class fatties) thinks s/he knows more about being an athletic director than the guy who was hired to do the job.

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cowboy 5 years, 4 months ago

How many yards rushing did ole Lew have in the Orange Bowl , How many points did he score in the national championship , What positions did he coach , everything was here before Mr. take credit for it was. Any followup on the Kivisto fiasco ? A true Kansas treats people with respect , This group does not. Hopefully a needy school on the East Coast will open up a job for him and Marchiony quite soon.

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deskboy04 5 years, 4 months ago

I am excited about going to this year's game at Arrowhead. I went last year and it was a lot of fun. I sure am glad that they will keep playing this game at Arrowhead. It gives the players a chance to play at in an NFL venue. If you are a real fan, you won't mind driving 45 minutes to a game.

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Haiku_Cuckoo 5 years, 4 months ago

How many of you whiners were actually planning to travel to Columbia, Missouri to watch the game if the Arrowhead deal fell through?*silencecrickets chirping*Yep, that's what I thought.

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Noweigh 5 years, 4 months ago

I'll take an Orange Bowl win, a national championship in hoops, an improved stadium/football facility, an improving basketball complex(which helped sway our national championship coach to stay) and more games on national/regional television than ever before. Is Arrowhead perfect....no. But ask any downtown merchant/purveryor what kind of day they had during last years KU-MU game...few if any will complain, especially the bars. We had (7) home games this year, including a non-conference sellout that would never have happened in prior years. Get over it. If you truly want a winner you do what it takes to win not only for one year but for many seasons to come.

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BIGBEAR 5 years, 4 months ago

Perkins –noun 1. an organism that lives on or in an organism of another species, known as the host, from the body of which it obtains nutriment. 2. a person who receives support, advantage, or the like, from another or others without giving any useful or proper return, as one who lives on the hospitality of others. Synonymsbloodsucker, hanger-on, leech, sponge, parasitic, bacteria, barnacle, bug, deadbeat, dependent, flunky, freeloader, parasite

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cowboy 5 years, 4 months ago

Lets see here , Lew's accomplishments...Hired Bonnie Wooed KivistoTurned his back on long time BB ticket holdersScrewed over the local community by moving the game to PetersonvilleCrapped on the city with the whole BB parade fiascoTakes all the credit that should go to Self and the FatmanDid get some dough for the football facilityAll in all I'd say he his abuse of the fan base far outweighs the bricks and mortar he's funded while lining the pockets of himself and his extended family.Mr Big deal , I'm not impressed

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Fred Whitehead Jr. 5 years, 4 months ago

I have no emotions or connections to KU, I am an OU fan. But this "plan" of Perkins just smells to high heaven. Some of you have mentioned the OU-Texas game, there is no comparason. This game was initiiated many decades ago when travel was very difficult and the litle town of Dallas was halfway between Norman and Austin. Money was never a consideration and even today, it would not represent much consideration, Owen Stadium in Norman is always sold out. Travel espenses for both teams negate much of the profit, keep in mind that the Cotten Bowl is a corporation and gets it's chunk of the take. There has been much discussion about cancelling this plan and having this game on the respective campusus for the very reasons that Herr Gauleiter Perkins has ignored it this odious agreement with the NFL. The reasons given by "Mr Cigar" pale when you imagine that the quality of the games are not anywhere near the league of Oklahoma and Texas, annual contenders for national titles. Coach Tub-o-Guts got lucky last year, but that was last year. But the best revenge is to vote with your money. If you do not give them money, the worshiped desire of all these jerks, then they have no dog in the fight. No money, no deal, for KU, MU or NFL. Think it over.

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flyin_squirrel 5 years, 4 months ago

If this years game brings in the same amount of revenue for KU as last years game, the difference between Memorial and 2 years at Arrowhead will be less than $250,000. And no, they will not split the stadium with one side MU and one side KU because Chiefs season ticket holders get first rights to their seats. So this game will never be about KU and MU, but about money, Carl Pederson, and the Chiefs fans getting one decent game a year.

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number1jayhawker 5 years, 4 months ago

This is really dsiturbing news. Rivalry games are to be played ON CAMPUS! I've been a season ticket holder for years and did not want to see this. Why not rotate a home and home series on campus before going back to Camarrowhead?And please do not compare this to the OU & UT games in Dallas that were being played way before the Big 8 took in the 4 Texas teams.Lew says it showcases the game in the back yard of the Alums that live in JOCO. What? Lawrence isn't in JOCO's back yard? I say B$.

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Uhlrick_Hetfield_III 5 years, 4 months ago

This is what happens when your Chancellor is owned by the Greater Kansas City Chamber of Commerce. Fire Hemenway. Hire someone honest.

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skinny 5 years, 4 months ago

Boy, the merchants are out in force today. Look at them whine and complain. What a bunch of cry babies.Well, I for one will be at the game enjoying myself with my buddies. I will be drinking beer, which by the way you cannot do inside Memorial Stadium.I'd also be willing to bet you the game is sold out too.Once again, Lew does what is in the best interest of the University, NOT the City of Lawrence.The City of Lawrence can go take their three tax increase they won at the last election and pound sand!Oh, RickyDub, KU is a state agency, they do not have to abide by the City of Lawrence ordinances and they do not pay property taxes.So, your tax suggestion won't fly!!

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LTownBaby 5 years, 4 months ago

Are you people just nucking futs? This year, the game would've been played in Columbia, Mizzery. KU would not have seen a cent of any revenues, but instead they will be taking in over $1,000,000 from the game being in KC. Not to mention, KC is a much shorter drive than Columbia. Narrow minded people, this is good for the University!

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Lindsey Buscher 5 years, 4 months ago

A two-year block is fine, whatevs, but this new bullsh*t REALLY sucks for Lawrence because of course, KU pays no property taxes, which includes those nice, new practice fields. So the athletics dept gets to maximize profit while Lawrence minimizes revenue. Sounds like a good business plan, Lew.

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edjayhawk 5 years, 4 months ago

Okay Lew...But don't blame Mangino if we keep losing to them. Its on your watch.

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BigPrune 5 years, 4 months ago

The special tax could be called a "fee." Charge $2.00 per ticket and put it into a special kitty. If there are 25,000 fans, the City would get $50K per game. That would pay some bills. They could use it for economic development - offer free land property tax free for companies that want to come to Lawrence. It would be sweet revenge since KU professors/faculty seem to be dead against any new businesses coming to town. Ha, ha.

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BigPrune 5 years, 4 months ago

The City of Lawrence needs to have a "special tax" on KU related events. At least "WE" wouldn't be subsidizing their crap anymore. They get it so good.

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oldvet 5 years, 4 months ago

While I understand the financial implications and benefits, it is disappointing... Oh well, I sold my OU @ Arrowhead and my MU @ Arrowhead on ebay before and I will do the same for these future games held there...

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SMe 5 years, 4 months ago

Durn you Lew!Norm Stewart is your biggest fan!You, working for the University of Kansas, move the KU/MU football game to Missouri!Traitor!

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Rickyonealku 5 years, 4 months ago

Oh one last comment...when K-State rehired Bill Snider as 2009 Kansas State Football Coach he made reference to the NEW IMPROVEMENTS KANSAS have made towards the Kansas Football program.And it takes MONEY for additional IMPROVEMENTS....

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Rickyonealku 5 years, 4 months ago

Maybe the new contract will split Arrowhead into half Kansas and half Missouri like the OU vs Texas do every year at BIG "D" Cotton Bowl.Some of you very negative comments should think how bad 2009-2010 World economic situation will be. Universities have hireing freezes and the biggest outlet is College Sports.I would love to see the Chiefs family and Executives split down the middle for 2009-2012 much like the OU VS TEXAS does....that would make BOTH University of KANSAS and MISSOURI HAPPY...and A LOT OF MONEY.....

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Pilgrim 5 years, 4 months ago

twosides (Anonymous) says…Way to go Lew. When are you going to move the KU/Missouri basketball games to KC? Why have one a year here and one in Columbia? Have them both in KC and make more money. Hell- why have any of the games here if you can make more money out of town. Lets close Allen Field House and Memorial Stadium and make them shelters for the homeless.*****Hyperbole much?

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janeyb 5 years, 4 months ago

Best way to stop this is not buy the tickets. How often will the game be a Big 12 North decider like last year? Most of the time the game will just suck. But Kansas City, Mo does have more charm, beauty and culture than Lawrence.---Not!

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TopJayhawk 5 years, 4 months ago

The folks here compaining aren't going to be going to any football games anyway. They already swore that off when they raised ticket prices. They want to get a free ticket, or pay $5.00 for a ticket. They want it given to them. I say Go Lew. More money = better sports dept. Now on three everyone, get ready to whine.

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skinnee11 5 years, 4 months ago

Lew Perkins is a ****ing douchebag. Thanks for screwing over the home town of the Jayhawks.FIRE LEW!

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Danimal 5 years, 4 months ago

Lew Perkins, Kansas athletics director, said in a statement. "It is an outstanding opportunity to showcase this great rivalry on a terrific national stage. In addition, it gives our players the experience of competing in one of the NFL's premier stadiums - an experience they will never forget."First, Arrowhead (since the renovations aren't complete) is still a dump compared to most NFL venues. Second, KU has never won a game at Arrowhead that I'm aware of (our players will never forget the annual beatings we're about to receive by playing the Border WAR - not showdown - in Missouri every year?). Third, this is giving the bone to Lawrence and the state of Kansas; now I don't blame the state for cutting KU's funding because the one thing that KU could do to help fill state coffers was just outsourced to Mizzery. F**k Arrowhead, the Hunt family, Lew Perkins and KUAC. I decided after last year that I would never attend another KU game at Arrowhead and now I reaffirm my commitment to that vow. This is a stupid, greedy thing for KU to do. Thanks for another season of lackluster, mediocre football Lew! Maybe next year we can give the middle finger to the 130 KU students and faculty that were killed in WWI by auctioning off the naming rights to Memorial Stadium.

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jmcjike 5 years, 4 months ago

This stinks.....Sure would of been nice to have that game last year in Lawrence where Misery always plays horrible. But I guess it doesn't matter if KU wins or loses just how much money KU can bring in!

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RickyDub 5 years, 4 months ago

Well Skinny, it is all fine and dandy until local donors who are also business donors decide to spend their dollars elsewhere. While I do like what Lew has done with certain parts of the athletic department, Lew still has to look out for the best interest of the University and it's community. Plus, how much more money would KU have made as a University if they played MU at home last year and won? A chance at a Big 12 title and revenue from another game would have more than made up for the game in Arrowhead .

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jimjones 5 years, 4 months ago

I'd like to see Lew Perkins cast in the sequel of "The Wicker Man"

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To Sides 5 years, 4 months ago

Way to go Lew. When are you going to move the KU/Missouri basketball games to KC? Why have one a year here and one in Columbia? Have them both in KC and make more money. Hell- why have any of the games here if you can make more money out of town. Lets close Allen Field House and Memorial Stadium and make them shelters for the homeless.

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skinny 5 years, 4 months ago

I do, I think Lew is the Man!! Lew works for the University of Kansas, not the City of Lawrence.His job is to bring in the bucks and that is what he is doing!Now let the Lawrence Merchants whine and complain. I think it is FUNNY!!!

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Pilgrim 5 years, 4 months ago

jumpin_catfish (Anonymous) says…KU just said screw you local merchants.******Guess what? KU football and KU athletics in general do NOT exist for the benefit of Lawrence city merchants. There is no other way a single football game can generate $1 million in revenue to be used for scholarships, academic support, and improved facilities for the KU student athletes. And THAT, as it should be, is the primary focus of the KU athletic department.

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jumpin_catfish 5 years, 4 months ago

So who thinks Lew's good for KU sports and Lawrence now. KU just said screw you local merchants. What's next just move the whole campus to Kansas City, Arrowhead is in Missouri people not Kansas.

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average 5 years, 4 months ago

Raider - This year's Arrowhead game isn't even going to be on national TV. In a few years, when KU and MU are playing their last games of the year to see who gets #4 and #5 in the Big 12 North? Hardly.

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Pudgy1 5 years, 4 months ago

Puck Ferkins…Someone call Joe College. I see a new t-shirt coming soon!

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Pudgy1 5 years, 4 months ago

Cheeseburger is right...Lew and Co. were brought in (by Hemenway) to do one thing. Raise $$$. And neither Lew nor Hemenway gives a hoot about anyone or anything except the almighty $$$. And even though KU Athletics is raking it in by the truck load, KU is STILL raising tuition every damned year! WTF! Oh that's right..KU Athletics keeps every dime they raise plus what KU gives them. They don't contribute to the overall university budget.

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walleyefishn 5 years, 4 months ago

What i hate is i cant even take my 7 year old to the game at arrowhead because of the bad mu fans.throwing beer,fighting when they were up 28 to nothing last year. That would not happen at ku home game were there is limited mu seating.

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Gootsie 5 years, 4 months ago

Err wrong Raider. Long time season ticket holder here and I absolutely hate this. KU gets on national tv a lot. We lose tons of local money and spirit when it goes to (N)Arrowhead. It sucks.

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cheeseburger 5 years, 4 months ago

Raider-Please show me where it says the game will be on national TV every year. While I agree that a national TV audience helps expose KU to the nation, I didn't see that the aforementioned article contained such a promise.

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Raider 5 years, 4 months ago

I think it's great. It brings a lot of exposure to the KU football program. This game will be on national tv every year. That is great for recruiting. Most likely, the ones on here bitching are the ones who would ONLY go to the MU game, and not support the football team at any other home game. The fairweather types that only go if it's MU or someone gives them a free ticket.

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Robert Rauktis 5 years, 4 months ago

Of course the Incorporated will get first share of the pot. $1,000,000 per year for ole Lew and four times $150,000 for his toadies.Doesn't Quicken have a program which makes athletic schedules? And a parrot would be cheaper than Marchioni.

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Armen Kurdian 5 years, 4 months ago

Cheeseburger is right. Fascinating that not one of us on this thread likes the idea. The only way I can play devil's advocate is that if this makes more money for KU, it's going to pay for the facilities that have helped our team improve so much. Maybe we can't have it both ways. But it's still a disappointing headline.

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cowboy 5 years, 4 months ago

Arrogant b........s comes to my mind. Then to give it away it in four year blocks is even worse. In a quick calculation on sales tax revenue lost it's easily 600,000 out of the revenue coffers for the state , cty , city. probably closer to 1 mil for the two games. Perhaps the new target for economic development folks ought to be KU ! It's just the principle of the thing taking a campus game and letting the money grubbers get their hands on it. Screw you Lew , somebody oughta rip yur frigging heads off for this one.

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cheeseburger 5 years, 4 months ago

As much as I detest the arrogance and swagger of Perkins, Marchiony, et.al, the reality is that they are doing just exactly what they were brought in to do - raise money and make improvements, regardless of who gets hurt in the process, It is unfortunate that every decision they make is based on the almighty dollar, but I guess that's the nature of college athletics these days. I wish I could look at those guys and think 'successful businessmen'; unfortunately, the thought that always comes to mind is 'arrogant backstabbers'!

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lama 5 years, 4 months ago

In other news, Johnson County fans promised not to get out of their seats or cheer loudly once at any of the games.

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ljpppp 5 years, 4 months ago

It's all about the schools and not about the hometowns! It's not good!

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