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Cautious joy as blacks imagine Obama victory

November 2, 2008

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Lula Cooper expects the tears to flow if Barack Obama becomes the first black president. But she's not breaking out the tissues just yet.

"I cried when I marked my ballot for him. We've had such an incredible journey to this point," said the former civil rights activist, her voice quavering. "I think he's going to win, but I really am very, very cautious."

Like a Hollywood blockbuster whose conclusion feels assured but still sets the heart racing, the endgame of this election has gripped black America with a powerful mixture of emotions.

Obama's potential victory represents a previously unimaginable triumph over centuries of racism. But beneath the hope and pride lies fear: of polling inaccuracy, voting chicanery, or the type of injustice and violence that have historically stymied African-American progress.

Cooper, 75, experienced the oppression of the 1950s and '60s as she was dragged off to jail for protesting segregation in Wilmington, Del., where her husband was DuPont's first black chemist. Now living in the Southwest, she said she experienced modern politics when her husband lost a recent bid to become their city's first black mayor after the election was switched to mail-in ballots rather than polling-place voting.

So when it comes to Obama, Cooper is "optimistic and hopeful - but experience plays a big part."

"With my generation, in the '60s every leader that we had was killed," she said. "Then it's almost like a plate over your heart. Once you've been hurt - King, Kennedy, Medgar Evers - you dare not put that much emotion out there again."

With even some Republicans using the word "miracle" to characterize the prospect of a victory by GOP candidate John McCain, given his lagging poll numbers, the shock of an Obama loss would be almost incalculable for many blacks. So people are protecting themselves.

"I can't tell you how much fear, but at the same time joy and expectation I have," said James Lowry, a management consultant from Chicago. "It revolves around every five minutes. I have hope, I read the polls, I get excited, then I say, 'Anything can happen."'

Paul Durr of Guys, Tenn., voted early last week. "I was jumping up and down," he said. "The other people in line thought I was crazy."

"If Obama wins, and I know he's going to win, it will pull this country together in terms of race relations," said Durr, who owns a cemetery monument company and is mayor of Guys, pop. 500.

"He has to win," Durr said. "If he doesn't, I think you'll see this country - I'm afraid to say what I think would happen the next day. I don't even want to think that way."

Comments

pissedinlawrence 6 years, 7 months ago

oh please, is this election really just about the color of a persons skin? get over it you cry baby

Godot 6 years, 7 months ago

"Marion writes;"Protecting themselves", how?Godot writes:Making plans to expatriate?

Bubarubu 6 years, 7 months ago

"Is it game over?? The president is a pretty high position in life."If the civil rights movement were about elevating a single person to a single position, then yeah, it would be game over. Or.... the civil rights movement is about exposing and eliminating systems of oppression and disadvantage and one man getting elected to one position is a good sign but nowhere close to "game over."

KEITHMILES05 6 years, 7 months ago

Hey Piss.......your name is exactly what you are doing.Don't make an embarassment of yourself.

Bob Forer 6 years, 7 months ago

It's a mere two days before V-A Day (Victory in AMERICA), and while planning the evening's festivities, I thought, albeit momentarily, about our good Republican friends, and I said to myself, "Self, those poor boys are gonna be hurting Tuesday evening. Poor, poor republicans. Cry me a river." But then I thought to myself, "Self, that's not nice. This is America. Let's help the poor schlubs out." So, in the spirit of reconciliation, I am soliciting volunteers for "Adopt a Loser Night." Its easy. Here are the ways to adopt: (1) Donate some of your extra Serotonin Reuptake Inhibitors for our needy friends. Believe me, they will need triple dosages come Tuesday evening. (2) Sign up for Grief Phone Counseling. Sure, some of them are a little dense, and a few are hot-heated, and there are also a handful of downright fools, but they're real Americans, too, ya know. (3) Take a loser to your party. This one needs no additional explanation. With the holiday season almost upon us, I urge all my friends, to give, give early, and give often. You Betcha.

RKLOG 6 years, 7 months ago

So where does the civil rights movement stand when a black person becomes president? Is it game over?? The president is a pretty high position in life.

jonas_opines 6 years, 7 months ago

D'oh! Lost a point in my "Spot the Pitts'" column game. No fair.

fourkitties 6 years, 7 months ago

we all must remember that Obama is Half white half black. This means we CAN become colorblind and enjoy the democratic party.

NObomination 6 years, 7 months ago

cautious joy.....dohkeep dreamin.......

coneflower 6 years, 7 months ago

Marion:The ones trying to polarize and divide are the Republicans who cannot run on their record of the past 8 years so turn to old tactics that have hurt America but have served them well in the past. What I meant by making everyone colorblind - and of course I know racism is too ingrained for that to be achieved - is that when a black man is in the White House and the sky does not fall and black people don't take over the country as some fear, some of the irrational fear among the most poorly informed, backward people will subside. Films of people attending McCain's and, even more, Palin's rallies show them expressing irrational fear of what will happen if a black man enters the White House, and extreme racism. Attend one of Obama's rallies and you won't see just black people there, you see people of all ages, economic classes and skin colors. Obama is a uniter. The Republicans have nothing left but the same old divisive politics, appealing to the worst tendencies in the most backward and poorly informed people in America.

coneflower 6 years, 7 months ago

He will be everybody's president, and it is my fervent hope that the color of his skin will finally make everybody colorblind.

coneflower 6 years, 7 months ago

Marion:You say "If the Obamination seizes control.."What is it about a free election that amounts to seizure? By November 5 the people will have spoken.

AjiDeGallina 6 years, 7 months ago

This will be victory for Blacks, and for Gays and for Women and for Hispanics...and ALL America.But the unpatriotic racists would want you to think that the victory would be about privileges or special rights, but they are just ignorant liars trying to scare people...the truth is much more simple..and beautiful.Never again, when a qualified candidate runs will there be questions of IF he or she can win simply because of his or her sex or skin color.That did not exist in our country even 4 years ago....and clearly on this board for some, it will never exist..I call those people racists, sexists and homophobes and they have no place in a civilized society, they are the lowest realms of citizenry along with rapists and child molesters.

Godot 6 years, 7 months ago

"Marion, the Republican Party is matching what Obama is spending. If he had taken your money through public financing then that would have ensured that he would have been greatly outspent by the McCain campaign because of the money coming from the Republican Party, which is much better financed than the Democrat Pary because of deep-pocketed lobbyists.The lies are deep today. We are going to have to get used to it. The Obamanation will have to use copious amounts of propaganda and disinformation to keep the proletariat in tow.

davisnin 6 years, 7 months ago

If it wasn't somewhat about race wouldn't the polls indicate the African American vote percentages to be similar to historical Democrat/Republican breakdowns instead of in the 90%s for Obama?

Godot 6 years, 7 months ago

"Imagine if John McCain had whispered somewhere that he was willing to bankrupt a major industry? Would this declaration not immediately be front page news? Well, Barack Obama actually flat out told the San Francisco Chronicle (SF Gate) that he was willing to see the coal industry go bankrupt in a January 17, 2008 interview. The result? Nothing. This audio interview has been hidden from the public...until now. Here is the transcript of Obama's statement about bankrupting the coal industry (emphasis mine): Let me sort of describe my overall policy.What I've said is that we would put a cap and trade system in place that is as aggressive, if not more aggressive, than anybody else's out there.I was the first to call for a 100% auction on the cap and trade system, which means that every unit of carbon or greenhouse gases emitted would be charged to the polluter. That will create a market in which whatever technologies are out there that are being presented, whatever power plants that are being built, that they would have to meet the rigors of that market and the ratcheted down caps that are being placed, imposed every year.So if somebody wants to build a coal-powered plant, they can; it's just that it will bankrupt them because they're going to be charged a huge sum for all that greenhouse gas that's being emitted."http://media.newsbusters.org/stories/hidden-audio-obama-tells-sf-chronicle-he-will-bankrupt-coal-industry.html?q=blogs/p-j-gladnick/2008/11/02/hidden-audio-obama-tells-sf-chronicle-he-will-bankrupt-coal-industryWow, I wonder how the early voters in the coal producing states would have voted if they had only known that Obama is willing to bankrupt the coal industry?

Godot 6 years, 7 months ago

AjiDeGallina demonstrates perfectly the "inclusiveness" and "tolerance" we expect of thenew Obamanation.

AjiDeGallina 6 years, 7 months ago

Godot,you are right, I am completely intolerant of racists.

4paz 6 years, 7 months ago

Racists are becoming the minority, thankfully. Whether or not they ever go away is uncertain. Someone will always have the need to blame someone else, usually a group of people, on their own failures. "I can't find a job." - They usually fail to mention they wouldn't demean themselves to do just any job. It's easier to blame it on African Americans or immigrants, legal or not. It's so much easier than to hit the pavements and fill out all those applications.Why not, instead of creating a scapegoat, you get to work and help find solutions to your problems and your community's problems. Instead of division, try bringing people together and working together? Then we all succeed. Being hateful will just destroy everyone. You will not come out on top.

tangential_reasoners_anonymous 6 years, 7 months ago

Tom: "You far-out superstars are the best!"So, was Tom really right_thinker?I had such a different perception of that persona, back in the day... may even recall a response when I referenced The Chameleons' Ascension DVD...his reply regarding Keys to Ascension... still the best renderings of Yes' songs ( IMHO ) ... the one I take running to this day.( Wow... right_thinker... wonder what went wrong_.... )

JohnBrown 6 years, 7 months ago

Well said coneflower, twice.IF O'Bama is elected xenophobia will be dealt a severe blow. I expect the xenophobes will simply turn to something else. However, we will be at the end of the comfort some have felt of putting people in jail forever simply by accusing them. They will also be surprised when they see O'Bama leading from the center, not the far left.

Corey Williams 6 years, 7 months ago

Marion writes:"Should The Obamination usurp the Oval Office, he most certainly will NOT be MY president and I will be active in the opposition to the reign of terror which he will impose."Usurp? Reign of terror? Wow. I didn't think there was anyone out there crazier than Tom. Turns out I was wrong.

tangential_reasoners_anonymous 6 years, 7 months ago

"Cautious joy as blacks imagine Obama victory"Cautious? Why? Join your white ( red, brown, yellow, purple-polka-dot ) counterparts in casting caution to the wind in joyful celebration of the imminent realization of an Obama victory!

beatrice 6 years, 7 months ago

Marion, the Republican Party is matching what Obama is spending. If he had taken your money through public financing then that would have ensured that he would have been greatly outspent by the McCain campaign because of the money coming from the Republican Party, which is much better financed than the Democrat Pary because of deep-pocketed lobbyists. So get over yourself and this whine that the person who spends the most is winning. The campaigns are lopsided financially, but because of the GOP the money spent promoting the candidates is similar. The funniest thing is that you have regularly and inaccurately called Obama a Socialist, but when he proves you wrong by not taking the government's money through public financing, you whine about it. So Socialism is bad, except when you feel it isn't, is that the idea? I find your hypocricy hysterically funny. Obama is likely to win simply because people believe he will make a better leader for our country than your guy, the Un-Chosen One. The Un-Chosen One is too spastic, has no clear vision for the future, has voted against alternative energy for the past 26 years, will fly off the handle and make decisions on a lark as he did with his radically conservative secessionist-friendly running mate despite his being 72 years old and there being a history of heart failure among the men in his family, would continue the tax laws that favor the wealthy put into place by Bush, will continue to push for a war that has not made us safer in Iraq, and on and on and on. Finally, the money being spent helps to get the message out there, but if it wasn't a convincing message people wouldn't be interested. Obama is not chosen by some higher power, as you claim, he will simply be the Elected One!But if crying a river makes you feel good, then please continue. It seems a bit pathetic, but cry away neocons, cry away.

yankeelady 6 years, 7 months ago

If this is seizing power, what about 2000 and 2004? If you want to talk about "usurping" the Oval Office---- . Typical neocon angst. If they can't convince folks outright they turn to scare tactics. Obama "08.

karmaxs3 6 years, 7 months ago

wow. I voted early, and voted for Obama. BUT....I think the color of someone's skin is a PATHETIC reason to vote for or against them. (as is gender). This just proves the ignorance of the American public in so many ways.

AjiDeGallina 6 years, 7 months ago

Complaints have surfaced in predominantly African-American neighborhoods of Philadelphia where fliers have circulated, warning voters they could be arrested at the polls if they had unpaid parking tickets or if they had criminal convictions.Over the weekend in Virginia, bogus fliers with an authentic-looking commonwealth seal said fears of high voter turnout had prompted election officials to hold two elections - one on Tuesday for Republicans and another on Wednesday for Democrats.In New Mexico, two Hispanic women filed a lawsuit last week claiming they were harassed by a private investigator working for a Republican lawyer who came to their homes and threatened to call immigration authorities, even though they are U.S. citizens.In Pennsylvania, e-mails appeared linking Democrat Barack Obama to the Holocaust. "Jewish Americans cannot afford to make the wrong decision on Tuesday, Nov. 4," said the electronic message, paid for by an entity calling itself the Republican Federal Committee. "Many of our ancestors ignored the warning signs in the 1930s and 1940s and made a tragic mistake."

BrianR 6 years, 7 months ago

Godot (Anonymous) says:"If Obama wins, it will be a triumph for the unqualified to rise to the presidency."Just when I think you've reached a pinnacle of idiotic statements, you go one better.

Godot 6 years, 7 months ago

ADG, my point is that this election season has demonstrated that the terms "racist" and "bigot" can, and will, be used by the Obama team to discredit anyone who holds an opinion different than theirs, or who dares to question the litany of contradictions and illogical pronouncements of the Great One, or who does not buy into the socialist ideology of the Obamanation.

Godot 6 years, 7 months ago

mike blur, I agree with you that, if the Obama mahcine takes control with a solidly Democrat criminal congress, Americans will look back with fond nostalgia on the backwater thuggishness of the Clinton adminstration.

texburgh 6 years, 7 months ago

Marion is a fool. Obama will "buy the election" because he turned down public funding? This shows a complete ignorance of campaign finance. There is no such thing as the limits imposed by accepting public funding. The candidate will take the public money and then depend on his supporters sending masses of cash to 527's and party PACs that run parallel campaigns. By not accepting public funding all Obama is doing is letting anyone who wants to contribute to his campaign. The fact that there is a dollar disparity between the McCain camp and his parallel campaigns by 527s and other PACs is because so many people now believe the GOP is the party that has run out of ideas - unless you consider rants about abortion or gay bashing to be ideas.Marion and those with a similar perspective are simply angry that the people will not give McCain enough to make him competitive.

Mike Blur 6 years, 7 months ago

right_thinker, got your bags packed yet? I'll stop by the ranch Tuesday and wave bye to ya as you head to....socialist Canada?

jonas_opines 6 years, 7 months ago

ahhhh yes if obama is elected the people will become more divided, the age of America will come to a close, we will become a communist country, it will be the most polarizing event ever even past the Civil War, the world will collapse ooooooaoaaaaaahhhhhhh!!!!Why is everybody going insane these days? Maybe someone should start putting Valium in our water supply for a week or so, and maybe we'll all realize how overworked we have become. (well, Marion won't, but the rest of us)

sdinges 6 years, 7 months ago

Bubarubu: "[T]he civil rights movement is about exposing and eliminating systems of oppression and disadvantage and one man getting elected to one position is a good sign but nowhere close to "game over."And yet that one man was raised by a single mother and then by a grandmother, lacked a reliable father figure, did not start off with any financial advantage in life and yet became the first black president. Do you really think it's going to be easy to take it seriously when someone says the playing field isn't level?Aji: "Never again, when a qualified candidate runs will there be questions of IF he or she can win simply because of his or her sex or skin color."Oh, I disagree. I think you are jumping the gun, and this statement is a bit naive. A woman has not become president. An Arab, Native American, Asian, etc has not become president. And more than sex or skin color - there has been no Jewish president, or homosexual president. The fact that Obama wins the presidency does not mean that being "qualified" will trump all other qualities.

jonas_opines 6 years, 7 months ago

"Make sense?"The US of KKK? Nope. Only really makes sense when one sees that you posted it.

Godot 6 years, 7 months ago

"The fact that Obama wins the presidency does not mean that being "qualified" will trump all other qualities."If Obama wins, it will be a triumph for the unqualified to rise to the presidency.

camper 6 years, 7 months ago

I am still thinking about the blog Marion wrote, "Why liberals hate Sarah Palin". Marion was so much enamored with her speech at the convention. After that, I just have a hard time taking anything he says very seriously.

black_butterfly 6 years, 7 months ago

I've said it before and I will say it again. This election is not about race, but there are still some people who want to make it about race. Obama is bi-racial. His mother is white. He is not trying to build a better america for blacks. He wants to build a better america for ALL AMERICANS!!! The republicans and racists have taken EVERY word this man has said and twisted it, embellished it, added words and misconstrued what he has said to try and make him look bad, but it won't work. A good man is a good man. They can bash him, slander him and accuse him of all kinds of things but americans are not idiots. They know the truth. The cream always rises to the top! OBAMA is for ALL AMERICANS not just blacks. I think that is what makes you racists the most angry. The fact that you KNOW he is a good man and he is the BEST person for the job of being our next president! Put on your big girl panties and deal with it!!!!!!

Danimal 6 years, 7 months ago

I just want the election to be over so whoever wins can set about destroying America.

Godot 6 years, 7 months ago

In the spirit of Fairness, I link to this laudatory article about the future of Obama's foreign policy:OBAMA 2012: HIS TRIUMPHS ABROADOUR GREATEST FOREIGN POLICY PRESIDENT?November 1, 2008Looking back on the four years of his first administration, President Obama can be proud: He made the US welcome among the family of nations again; he reduced our reliance on military force; and he gave us peace by reaching sensible accommodations with our enemies.The lies told about him in the 2008 election were exposed as sheer bigotry. Far from being "soft on radical Islam," President Obama was the first world leader to welcome Jewish refugees after Iran's nuclear destruction of Israel's major cities (his only caveat - a fair one - was the refusal to accept Zionist military officers and their families, in light of Israel's excessive retaliation)..........read the entire article here:http://www.nypost.com/seven/11012008/postopinion/opedcolumnists/obama_2012__his_triumphs_abroad_136358.htm?page=0

Flap Doodle 6 years, 7 months ago

"The liberal "community organizing" group ACORN became a campaign issue last month after Nevada's Democratic attorney general and its Democratic secretary of state teamed up to conduct a highly visible raid of the group's Las Vegas offices. They seized files on what could be thousands of fraudulent voter registrations.After ACORN, the Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now, complained the raid was a "stunt" designed to hinder its efforts at minority registration, Larry Lomax, the chief elections officer in Las Vegas, responded that the group's claims it had extensive quality controls to catch fraudulent registrations were "pathetic." He noted that ACORN had hired 59 inmates from a work-release program at a nearby prison and that some inmates who had been convicted of identity theft had been made supervisors. That led some local wags to joke that at least ACORN was hiring specialists to do their work."http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1108/15189.html

jonas_opines 6 years, 7 months ago

"I plan on using The Chosen One's four-year stint to my maximum possible advantage."Finally, we have some truth from Right-thinker. His maximum possible advantage, his primary motivation.

Mike Blur 6 years, 7 months ago

Yes tan, Shewmon is also right_thinker. The ljworld blog zone cross-ID's Shewmon as right_stinker.The greatest president in my lifetime (and I go back to LBJ) was William Jefferson Clinton. On Tuesday, we will usher in a new era of prosperity and peace that has not happened the past 7.9 years. It won't be easy--my friend Barry Hussein O. has a huge hole to dig out of--and there will be an extreme radical right (Shewmon, Groenhagen, Ms. Marion Lyn, etc) intent on taking him down. This time it won't involve a plump white girl and a sham trial in Congress. (Remember those days, wow, when the worst American crises was a minor indiscretion?)

AjiDeGallina 6 years, 7 months ago

pop,I realize you only use part of the facts, that is your regular form and shows your lack of credibility..But the facts of the ACORN offices that have not come before the judge has shown that ACORN did flag the suspected fraud, and they do not have the legal right to withold them, only flag them for the clerks offices. They have fired and turned over evidence for prosecution and offered full cooperation tny employees or contractors found to participate in fraud..and did so BEFORE the story broke, and it amounts to less than 1% of their total registratoin.but please continue to ignore the facts, i like it when you make yourself look foolish.

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