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Socialism is the right word

November 1, 2008


The October surprise may turn out to be a 7-year-old interview with Barack Obama in which he strongly suggests that the U.S. Constitution is an impediment to his desire to redistribute the nation's wealth. How does Obama credibly take the oath of office to "preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States" when he thinks it impedes his socialist agenda?

Is socialism too strong a word? Consider one of its definitions from and tell me it is something other than Obama's economic philosophy: "A theory or system of social reform which contemplates a complete reconstruction of society, with a more just and equitable distribution of property and labor."

A complete restructuring of society is what Obama advocated in a 2001 interview on a Chicago public radio station. According to, in that interview, Obama, reflecting on the Warren Court's successes and failures in helping to usher in civil rights, said, "I think where it succeeded was to vest formal rights in previously dispossessed peoples."

He has it backward. The Creator already endowed African-American people with these rights, which is precisely the argument powerfully made by Martin Luther King Jr. Any rights that are "vested" in people by other people may be removed by the same or future people. Endowed rights are "unalienable" and what America did was to finally recognize those rights. The distinction is crucial because it also relates to abortion and many other social issues. If a court can take away the right to life, then no endowed right is safe.

Obama continues with a comment that the "Supreme Court never ventured into the issues of the redistribution of wealth and sort of basic issues of political and economic justice in this society, and to that extent as radical as people try to characterize the Warren Court, it wasn't that radical." Does he mean that for real "justice" to have been achieved, the Warren Court should have taken from the rich and given to the black poor?

Obama never said what would happen once the redistributed money ran out. Perhaps this was not to be a one-time event, but a lifetime of "reparations" for slavery, as some other left-wing black leaders have proposed.

On Bill O'Reilly's Fox show Monday night, former Democratic vice presidential candidate Geraldine Ferraro defended high taxes in New York and Obama's pledge to raise them nationally, saying, "At least they're not taking it all." It may have been an attempt at humor, but this betrays the Democratic Party's attitude.

They have the right to say how much of your hard-earned money you can keep. We should be telling government how much of our money we will allow them to spend. Anyone hoping to make more money and improve their lives will have to work even harder to overcome Obama's redistribution plans.

Obama thought the Warren Court should have "broken free" from the constraints placed on the Constitution and the courts by the Founding Fathers. This is remarkable hubris. Obama said the Constitution mostly "says what the states can't do to you ... what the federal government can't do to you, but it doesn't say what the federal government or state government must do on your behalf." That's because the Constitution is about liberty and protecting citizens from oppressive and invasive government.

This is scary stuff. That it is only now surfacing is another reminder of the poor job the mainstream media have done in vetting Obama. Barack Obama thinks the Constitution and the country it helped create should be remade in his image. He wants to be a founding father of a different America, one that would bear little resemblance to the country we have known.

This is radical in the extreme and Obama, along with his many acolytes who are itching to get their hands on unchecked political power, are a danger to this nation's survival. Listen to the interview.

John McCain stands in the way of a complete liberal coup that would transform America in ways the founders and most Americans would oppose. McCain may be dull at times; he may have run an imperfect campaign; he should have spent more time exposing Obama as a radical socialist instead of worrying what the media would say if he did, but John McCain is a patriot who has proved his love, service and dedication to this country in ways that Obama cannot begin to achieve or appreciate.

Electing Barack Obama president of the United States would be a roll of loaded dice. We will live (and possibly die) to regret it. Republicans have made many mistakes and deserve the punishment they are now getting, but the one charge that cannot be laid at their doorstep is that they wanted to rewrite the Constitution and weaken the country.

Obama will do that and more. Wake up, America, and stop flirting with this guy because you are flirting with potential disaster.

- Cal Thomas is a columnist for Tribune Media Services.


LiberalDude 9 years, 6 months ago

The Republicans calling Obama a socialist takes us back to the 1950's McCarthy era when he was trying to call everyone communists. Your dirty GOP scare tactics won't work this time. It gives me great joy to imagine Cal Thomas crying himself to sleep when Obama wins on election night!

Calliope877 9 years, 6 months ago about beating a dead horse.

verity 9 years, 6 months ago

Where is one even tiny shred of evidence that Obama has ever taken part in anything even remotely related to terrorism?Obama supporters, the danger in this conversation that is being carried on here is that we are spending time defending Obama from totally baseless smears when we should be pointing out what a McCain/Pain presidency would entail. John McCain keeps saying "my friends, I have a plan." Well, from what I have heard of his plan---and it really hasn't been that fleshed out, really scares me.One example ---his plan to start taxing health care benefits given by employers. That will hurt all businesses that give health care and the $5,000 tax credit will not even begin to cover health care for most families.Another is the partial privatization of social security. Look where that would put us in today's economic meltdown. I invest quite conservatively and my IRAs have just tanked. Probably not worth what I put in. So much for living responsibly and planning ahead when the Republicans are in charge.Obama has attempted to be a uniter, something that Bush II promised and broke. McCain and Palin have done their best to divide and conquer.Obama will work for all Americans. Apparently McCain/Palin will only work for those they believe are "real" Americans.

BrianR 9 years, 6 months ago

What, Tom, like Wall St. depends on the government? Like corporations depend on the government? Banks? Yeah, that must be what you meant to say.

verity 9 years, 6 months ago

Even William Krystle, one of the original neocons (Project for a New American Century) and about as conservative as you can get, told Jon Stewart that he thought Obama would govern from a moderate position.And Obama can't just wave a magic wand and turn the U.S. into a socialist state even if he wanted to. I am just amazed at the fearmongering and McCarthyism running loose.And, Mr. Thomas, what does the Bible say about bearing false witness? Sheeesh.".... his many acolytes who are itching to get their hands on unchecked political power..." Sounds like he's discussing our current administration.

davisnin 9 years, 6 months ago

I'm so sick of hearing people say that we've been redistributing income to the wealthy under George Bush. No wonder you think the world owes you something. That is a complete lie. After all the tax cuts, credits, refunds and loopholes these rich jerks pay tax in the following way:Top 1% $388,806+ 39.89% 1% OF THE POPULATION40% OF THE TAX BURDENTop 5% $153,542+ 60.14%Top 10% $108,904+ 70.79%Top 25% $64,702+ 86.27%Top 50% $31,987+ 97.01%Bottom 50% <$31,987 2.99%Just google who pays taxes if you don't believe me

jonas_opines 9 years, 6 months ago

Larry_The_Moocher (Anonymous) says: "Something here stinks and I can not put my finger on it."That could be just because you're being a paranoid conspiracy theorist, and you're making things up out of thin air.

Gary Sandell 9 years, 6 months ago

Electing Barack Obama president of the United States would be a roll of loaded dice.--- Thomas_______I have about decided that this is the bitter pill that we are about to swallow, and maybe we have to, to learn our lesson.. Much like taking our last $20 up to the casino, in hopes of hitting the "jackpot" and saving our a$$ from bankruptcy. In the end, this will be like the long trip back home from the casino, after we lost the last of our money until the next payday, kicking ourself in the a$$ all of the way home, for spending what little we had left, maxing out our credit cards, and writing checks that we can not cover, on a chance to win the "big one". Payday may be another long four years down the road, when we have finally learned our lesson, that hope and wishing do not make success; only hard work, planning, saving for a rainy day are what will save us. But so many want Barack to save us, to be there to hand us the "jackpot" check, won by someone else, but taking it and then sharing it with everyone in the casino. That's not the way that I want to win.

Bossa_Nova 9 years, 6 months ago

is it just me or is the entire western hemisphere going to the left? obama, chavez, lula, morales, ortega, kirchner, etc, etc and it looks like there's more to come. this is quite a phenomena.

camper 9 years, 6 months ago

Cal Thomas is wrong. The US has always employed a mixture of free-market and Keynesian economics. This is not Socialism, and if Thomas doesn't understand that, he is either an idiot or he is lying (or perhaps exxagerating greatly) to spread fear.This fear-mongering is exactly what I despise from the Republican Party. It will take me a long time to begin even considering a republican candidate.

ASBESTOS 9 years, 6 months ago

"George Bush and his administration have been found to be in violation of the US Constitution more times and all previous administrations combined by the US Supreme Court."Where did you get that information? There has only been 3 cases referred and on those the "Executive Branch" guarntees let him do what He needed to do."""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""George Bush wrote and presented a plan to socialize bank losses."No! Hank Paulsen did write that. But I agree with the sentiment, I think the banks need to find their own way out. However, how come it was so supported by the Democratic Majority and passes by them as well, and opposed by whom? The RNC House members were the ones opposing it and remaind that way (with 90 DNC representatives I must ad as well)"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""Let us not forget that George Bush referred to the Constitution as "just a G:D:Piece of Paper""Pretty outrageous, Please source. This is as bad as the GOP stating the Obama is a muslim. Same koolaide brand.Go to some of these sites whom are ran by PUMAS and Hillary Supporters. It is amazing the corrupt stuff Obama pulled on her, and the stuff they are pulling on the American People.www.hillbuzz.wordpress.comwww.texashillblog.wordpress.comhttp://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.comOther than that AjiDeGallina, you are just another paid Obama koolaide drinking liar.

Corey Williams 9 years, 6 months ago

This is what Obama said, without the last line being taken as if it stood alone:"I do believe that for folks like me, who have worked hard but, frankly, have also been lucky, I don't mind paying just a little bit more than the waitress who I just met over there who, things are slow, and she can barely make the rent. My attitude is that if the economy's good for folks from the bottom up, it's going to be good for everybody. If you've got a plumbing business, you're going to be better off if you've got a whole bunch of customers who can afford to hire you. And right now, everybody's so pinched that business is bad for everybody. And I think when you spread the wealth around it's good for everybody."

Corey Williams 9 years, 6 months ago

"We grudge no man a fortune in civil life if it is honorably obtained and well used. It is not even enough that it should have been gained without doing damage to the community. We should permit it to be gained only so long as the gaining represents benefit to the community. : The really big fortune, the swollen fortune, by the mere fact of its size, acquires qualities which differentiate it in kind as well as in degree from what is possessed by men of relatively small means. Therefore, I believe in a graduated income tax on big fortunes, and : a graduated inheritance tax on big fortunes, properly safeguarded against evasion, and increasing rapidly in amount with the size of the estate."Theodore Roosevelt

mom_of_three 9 years, 6 months ago

And hasn't McCain talked about helping out the foreclosed homeowners, by having the government buy the mortgages, and be the mortgage holder? Isn't that socialism?

feeble 9 years, 6 months ago

Ironically, if Bush and co (Paulsen, etc) agree to bailout GM via purchase of preferred stock, the right would be engaging in socialism, since the Bush administration would be taking over the means of production.

camper 9 years, 6 months ago

Hawk, if you can pretend that it was you running, try to think of all of your relatives, your friends, your associates, church members, teamates. Everybody man, good and bad. Is there anyone in that closet your sleazy opponent will bring up against you and sensationalize for political purposes? Charge you association. Think about it.

tangential_reasoners_anonymous 9 years, 6 months ago

Clearly Socialism IS the "right" word... "right" there next to Terrorist....Why not expand that "right" vocabulary... there are selections aplenty left.

camper 9 years, 6 months ago

In a recent interview, Obama said that the government can get involved if the private sector is unable to take the risk or produce the capital for large-scale projects. This would be for the common good of our communities and for the direction of our country. Incidentally, the private sector (free market) will benefit, because they will be needed to carry these plans out and jobs will be created. Does Cal think Haliburton would argue with this? They employee a lot of folks down in Houston. Two examples Obama gave were improvements to our electric grid and our port systems which need improvements. I think of this as Keynesian economics, not Socialism.

Richard Heckler 9 years, 6 months ago

Wall Sreet is socialistSubsidies to Fortune 500 companies is socialistBailouts are socialistMilitary Industrial Complex is SocialistAirline Industry is SocialistEtcEtcEtc

tangential_reasoners_anonymous 9 years, 6 months ago

And we all know who the "real" Americans REALLY are.

RedwoodCoast 9 years, 6 months ago

Cal, quit scaring me like that. Obama is the boogie man, I get it. I guess I'll be voting boogie man on Tuesday.

Steve Jacob 9 years, 6 months ago

My opinion on the Republicans is they should have known there candidate was DOA (whoever it was) last year, and should have worked harder to get Hilary in office, who has to be looking good to them right now.

Gareth Skarka 9 years, 6 months ago

Landslide Tuesday!Payback Wednesday.Get used to hearing it, Wingnuts -- "You Lost. Get Over It."

BrianR 9 years, 6 months ago

right_thinker said..."This Soros/moveon/far-left blogo/corrupt media/big money slime machine..."You are a cartoon. A parody. A caricature. Do you seriously believe the crap you write?You used to be such a nice boy.

BrianR 9 years, 6 months ago

Idiots like Thomas can always count on the "red scare" to spread the politics of fear that have become such a hallmark of the American political system. And there are plenty of idiots who will believe him.

AjiDeGallina 9 years, 6 months ago

George Bush and his administration have been found to be in violation of the US Constitution more times and ALL PREVIOUS ADMINISTRATIONS COMBINED by the US Supreme Court.George Bush wrote and presented a plan to socialize bank losses.Let us not forget that George Bush referred to the Constitution as "just a G...D...Piece of Paper"The GOP has imploded and we now see their true colors..Liars and lunatics control the party.Next time the Dems will not be so lucky because the GOP will now have to clean house and get rid of the cooks and the majority of the party (more central) will take back the power and it will again start to represent the members of its party.

AjiDeGallina 9 years, 6 months ago

There you go again, Abestos, rewriting history and facts, ignoring what conflicts with your view.You have no value.

camper 9 years, 6 months ago

Oh, and one other point. The ideas Obama expressed are nothing new, and they have been employed by all administrations throughout our history. Even military spending falls under this for example, but does not quite have the same multiplier effect as public and infrastructure projects. Obama really had one interesting comment when describing the federal defecits and paraphrase he said that after all that amount of expenditures, we really don't have anything to show for it today, or something lasting.

RedwoodCoast 9 years, 6 months ago

Yeah, Obama isn't deserving of the highest office in our democracy. He doesn't deserve what he's been able to afford. He must have had secret help from somewhere... probably money funneled to his campaign from Afghan opium profits. That is the only way I can make sense of his undeserved candidacy for the presidency.

Richard Heckler 9 years, 6 months ago

Wall Sreet is socialistSubsidies to Fortune 500 companies is socialistBailouts are socialistMilitary Industrial Complex is SocialistAirline Industry is SocialistEtcEtcEtcThe Bush gang's parting gift: a final, frantic looting of public wealthThe US bail-out amounts to a strings-free, public-funded windfall for big business. Welcome to no-risk capitalism Who has history with financial institutions going south such as the savings and loan scandal? Republicans!Neil, George Jr., George Sr., and Jeb BushThe Savings and Loan industry had been experiencing major problems through the late 60s and 70s due to rising inflation and rising interest rates. Because of this there was a move in the 1970s to replace the role of S&L institutions with banks.In the early 1980s, under Reagan, regulatory changes took place that gave the S&L industry new powers and for the first time in history measures were taken to increase the profitability of S&Ls at the expense of promoting home ownership.A history of the S&L situation can be found here: is important to note about the S&L scandal is that it was the largest theft in the history of the world and US tax payers are who was robbed.The problems occurred in the Savings and Loan industry as they relate to theft because the industry was deregulated under the Reagan/Bush administration and restrictions were eased on the industry so much that abuse and misuse of funds became easy, rampant, and went unchecked.Additional facts on the Savings and Loan Scandal can be found here: are several ways in which the Bush family plays into the Savings and Loan scandal, which involves not only many members of the Bush family but also many other politicians that are still in office and still part of the Bush Jr. administration today. Jeb Bush, George Bush Sr., and his son Neil Bush have all been implicated in the Savings and Loan Scandal, which cost American tax payers over $1.4 TRILLION dollars (note that this is about one quarter of our national debt).Between 1981 and 1989, when George Bush finally announced that there was a Savings and Loan Crisis to the world, the Reagan/Bush administration worked to cover up the Savings and Loan problems This information was kept from the media until after Bush had won the 1988 elections.

Cody Ochs 9 years, 6 months ago

Isn't the government at this very moment redistributing my wealth to rich guys' failed businesses?

AjiDeGallina 9 years, 6 months ago

Tom Shewmon (Tom Shewmon) says:How many of my valued LJW leftist neighbors and how many times, called BS on my Soros assertions. This guy wants to dismantle America piece by piece and reshape us into his version of a one-world order that he prefers.*******No, he wants to restore what the neocons have destroyed.The Neocons have attacked America from day one, and have torn our Constitution, disrespected our soldiers and abandoned America, Obama will take our country back. He is the patriot.

Bob Harvey 9 years, 6 months ago

I read this recently and cannot verify it's accuracy. But you have to admit it makes some sense. I pray it is not true.About the time our original thirteen states adopted their new constitution in 1787, Alexander Tyler, a Scottish history professor at the University of Edinburgh, had this to say about the fall of the Athenian Republic some 2,000 years earlier:"A democracy is always temporary in nature; it simply can-not exist as a permanent form of government."A democracy will continue to exist up until the time that voters discover they can vote themselves generous gifts from the public treasury."From that moment on, the majority always vote for the candidates who promise the most benefits from the public treasury, with the result that every democracy will finally collapse due to loose fiscal policy, which is always followed by a dictatorship."The average age of the world's greatest civilizations from the beginning of history, has been about 200 years. During those 200 years, those nations always progressed through the following sequence:1. From bondage to spiritual faith;2. From spiritual faith to great courage;3. From courage to liberty;4. From liberty to abundance;5. From abundance to complacency;6. From complacency to apathy;7. From apathy to dependence;8. From dependence back into bondage

Mkh 9 years, 6 months ago

It's not Socialism, get your terms correct folks. Obama and McCain both clearly endorse the ideology of Fascism. You do have a choice between the two major parties, all you have is Fascism, or as Mussolini called it, "corporatism".

davisnin 9 years, 6 months ago

Yes, yes fascism, the term most often tossed about by the most rational among us.

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