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Man injured in early-morning shooting
May 14, 2008
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A 38-year-old Lawrence man was shot early Wednesday morning near the intersection of Sixth Street and Kasold Drive, according to Lawrence police.
Officers said they responded to the Kwik Shop, 3440 W. Sixth, where they found the victim. The man was taken in stable condition to Lawrence Memorial Hospital.
"This investigation is ongoing and no further details are available," police said in a written release.
Ben Easthouse, a 22-year-old Kwik Shop employee, said he was working in the back of the store when the shooting victim walked in through the front of the business about 12:45 a.m.
Easthouse said he saw the victim on a back room TV surveillance video and came out to greet him. The victim asked Easthouse to call an ambulance.
“I knew what had happened, I processed that quickly so I said, ‘OK, I need to get this guy some help,’” Easthouse said after seeing the man’s injuries.
Easthouse said he didn’t know where the man was when the shooting occurred.
Police said they are seeking a suspect, and ask anyone with information about the shooting to call detectives at 830-7430 or 843-TIPS.


14 May 2008 at 5:46 a.m.
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geekin_topekan (Anonymous) says…
Robberies,shootings,rape and drunken-murderous driving.jealous genital mutalation.
C/C hasn't put a dent in crime.
14 May 2008 at 5:49 a.m.
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zettapixel (Anonymous) says…
You're up early huh geekin? :D But seriously, this is too close to home. Let's put all the pieces together, find out who did it, and lock the person up.
14 May 2008 at 5:53 a.m.
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geekin_topekan (Anonymous) says…
Actually I'm still up from last night!!
Thanks for noticing though.
14 May 2008 at 6:16 a.m.
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Keith (Anonymous) says…
Astros or Henry Ts?
14 May 2008 at 6:21 a.m.
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Guardian (Anonymous) says…
Too many anti-gun, Liberal, Clintonistas in Lawrence for concealed carry to be too effective here.
14 May 2008 at 6:48 a.m.
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Kookamooka (Anonymous) says…
If they would just tell us the guys name, they would probably get tips.
14 May 2008 at 7:01 a.m.
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thebcman (Anonymous) says…
probably some banger from T-Town upset that his crack house (last call) got shut down.
14 May 2008 at 7:01 a.m.
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hitme (Anonymous) says…
Spangles is there too. Perhaps someone's drive-through order was wrong.
14 May 2008 at 7:26 a.m.
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none2 (Anonymous) says…
hitme (Anonymous) says…
“Spangles is there too. Perhaps someone's drive-through order was wrong.”
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I think they close around 10pm. I LOVE their commercials, but their food “doesn't taste better” as it is too bland, and for a place glorifying the 50's, they should offer malts.
Maybe they were upset that WalGreens was out of hemorrhoidal creme.
14 May 2008 at 7:31 a.m.
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hawkperchedatriverfront (Anonymous) says…
They were on their way to the new Walmart and found out it was closed and got into a fight. The two dudes involved went out for condoms for a “partay” thing and the store didn't exist and then the fight ensued. This is great, finally crime has moved from the target neighborhoods.
14 May 2008 at 7:32 a.m.
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Marty_Ackerman (Anonymous) says…
African American youth between the age of 18-24.. calling it now.
14 May 2008 at 7:45 a.m.
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none2 (Anonymous) says…
Guardian (Anonymous) says…
“Too many anti-gun, Liberal, Clintonistas in Lawrence for concealed carry to be too effective here.”
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Oh no, we all want to pass a sales tax to allow the city to provide free hand guns and cheep bullets to everyone — especially the poor, elderly, disabled, and minor child. The children especially should have hand guns since they have faster reflexes and thus could shoot faster. Let's get these criminals out of Dodge and let the children learn a marketable skill — and maybe make a bit of an allowance on the side.
One of the 10 commandments has always been mis-interpreted. “Thou shall not kill” in its true translation reads: “Arm yourselves at all times and be prepared to kill others before they kill you.”
14 May 2008 at 7:48 a.m.
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MichaelJ (Anonymous) says…
“C/C hasn't put a dent in crime”
Well, *I* haven't been a crime victim since I began carrying!
14 May 2008 at 7:58 a.m.
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tony88 (Anonymous) says…
were you a crime victim before you started carrying? how has carrying detered someone from committing a crime against you? have any examples?
14 May 2008 at 8 a.m.
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BalkansHawk (Anonymous) says…
Well, it wasn't me. 4500 miles away and an air tight alibi.
14 May 2008 at 8 a.m.
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hawkperchedatriverfront (Anonymous) says…
Whats the deal. The earlier report said white male. some reporting the j/w
14 May 2008 at 8:08 a.m.
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burgerflipper (peter brady) says…
my ignorant guess is it was neither astros, or henry t's that shot the man. my ignorant and speculative guess is that it was an unlicensed person carrying an unlicensed handgun commiting a felony on another human being.
14 May 2008 at 8:09 a.m.
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burgerflipper (peter brady) says…
sorry, “nor”.
14 May 2008 at 8:17 a.m.
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Defender (Anonymous) says…
“Robberies,shootings,rape and drunken-murderous driving.jealous genital mutalation.
C/C hasn't put a dent in crime.”
Do you have any facts whatsoever to back up your claim? Sorry, but making up crap like this is quite stupid. For one thing, if concealed carry prevented a crime, then you wouldn't hear about it since no crime actually occured. Next time find some facts to back up your assumptions.
14 May 2008 at 8:21 a.m.
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consumer1 (Anonymous) says…
Burgerflipper,
you win the prize. I am sure you are correct. In all probability, not only was the assailant a felon with an illegal weapon, but most likely the victim was a felon as well. As I see it, Bad guys can shoot all the bad guys they want. I would ask that you practice your shooting skills so that you are more effective.
14 May 2008 at 9:17 a.m.
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none2 (Anonymous) says…
There are alternatives to buying guns for guys that feel inadequate. Consider buying Enzyte — the natural male enhancement. It may not be as sexy as cold metal on your person which makes you feel like a big He-man. Still, its a lot less deadly and you don't have to worry about it falling into the wrong hands.
14 May 2008 at 9:22 a.m.
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orbiter (Anonymous) says…
“For one thing, if concealed carry prevented a crime, then you wouldn't hear about it since no crime actually occured.”
—Really? You don't think if someone defended themselves from an attacker with a gun that you wouldn't hear about it just because it was legal?
Think about it: a possible victim uses the C/C law to turn the tables on an attacker. You don't think this would be in the news?
Here is a headline on ljworld's front page today:
“Longtime broker takes job in Prairie Village”
And you really don't think we would hear about a shooting just because it was legal?
In fact, I'm sure all the C/C proponents would be already be planning a statue to commemorate it.
Next time render a well-formed opionion before you condescend.
(queue kneejerks from the C/C proponents: “but all you all you liberal Clintonista, Iran-loving, pro-immigrant gaylovers wouldn't let the story be told and…..)
Go ahead, start your paranoid rants, and you better hurry. Obama and his Muslim army are coming to get your guns and your women.
Ready, go!
14 May 2008 at 9:26 a.m.
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nobody1793 (Anonymous) says…
I wish people would settle things the old fashioned way. With swords.
14 May 2008 at 9:28 a.m.
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justfornow (Anonymous) says…
“C/C hasn't put a dent in crime”. Most c/c permit holders were probably home in bed, Ya know… work.
“In all probability, not only was the assailant a felon with an illegal weapon, but most likely the victim was a felon as well”.
I strongly agree.
14 May 2008 at 9:31 a.m.
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can8iv66049 (Anonymous) says…
The best comments on this whole blog…..are the funny ones!!!! lmao!!!
14 May 2008 at 9:32 a.m.
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hipper_than_hip (Anonymous) says…
“I would ask that you practice your shooting skills so that you are more effective.”
We found what we think was a drive by practice range on the west side of Perry Lake. There's was a dressmakers dummy set up in the woodline along the side of a field. Lots of tire tracks in front of the dummy, and lots of shell casings: 9mm, .22, and .38. Fewer holes in the dummy than spent brass on the ground.
14 May 2008 at 9:43 a.m.
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BalkansHawk (Anonymous) says…
“There's was a dressmakers dummy set up in the woodline along the side of a field.”
Scare crow or scare crack head?
14 May 2008 at 9:48 a.m.
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none2 (Anonymous) says…
There are quite a few people now-a-days who need vision correction. What if a C/C person forgot their glasses or they dropped them? Wouldn't it be more appropriate to have a concealed bomb? If you think someone wouldn't mess with you with your BIG gun, just imagine flashing them with a bomb. That way you don't have to worry so much about missing a shot.
Plus if you think guns make you sexy to the ladies, imagine the after life with all those lovely virgins waiting for YOU!
1-800-bomb4gals!
Please be over 18 or at least above 5'4” as the bomb jackets don't come in smaller sizes.
Limited offer one per lifetime.
14 May 2008 at 9:54 a.m.
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BalkansHawk (Anonymous) says…
Bizarre. Just saw “crack head” on another blog. Reminds me of a Jeff Foxworthy joke. If you see a sign that says crack kills, and it reminds you to pull your pants up, you might be a red neck.
14 May 2008 at 10:19 a.m.
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consumer1 (Anonymous) says…
hipper, that might be something worth reporting to Jefferson county sherrifs office. I think Perry is Jeff Co.
14 May 2008 at 10:31 a.m.
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blue73harley (Anonymous) says…
None2 wins the Penis Prize for being the first to make the seemingly obligatory comparison that is made on every thread that mentions guns.
“Still, its a lot less deadly and you don't have to worry about it falling into the wrong hands.”
Hmmm…I remember when sex was safe and guns were dangerous.
14 May 2008 at 10:47 a.m.
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stuckinthemiddle (Anonymous) says…
~chuckle~ None2… you crack me up…
and it's the truth in your comments that make it so damn funny…
and hey…
if you guys want your guns to keep you from becoming victims best wear them out in the open so that the bad guys will know not to mess with you…
14 May 2008 at 10:55 a.m.
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none2 (Anonymous) says…
blue73harley (Anonymous) says…
“None2 wins the Penis Prize for being the first to make the seemingly obligatory comparison that is made on every thread that mentions guns.
“Still, its a lot less deadly and you don't have to worry about it falling into the wrong hands.”
Hmmm…I remember when sex was safe and guns were dangerous.”
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If it is too adult in content, we can always change from talking about guns to talking about swords.
14 May 2008 at 11:09 a.m.
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Jaminrawk (Anonymous) says…
“I wish people would settle things the old fashioned way. With swords.”
Hah! That is the post of the day.
14 May 2008 at 11:14 a.m.
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none2 (Anonymous) says…
stuckinthemiddle (Anonymous) says…
“~chuckle~ None2… you crack me up…
and it's the truth in your comments that make it so damn funny…”
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One of the funniest foreign films I ever saw was made in Australia probably in the late 80's early 90's. I don't remember the title, but I kind of remember the hero. He wanted to be popular in an American fashion. Thus he:
1) Wore a big, tall hat. (I don't think it was a cowboy hat, but rather a Pilgrim's hat.)
2) Had a priest's collar.
3) Had a gold cross on his chest.
4) Had a cowboy holster & handgun with a real LONG shaft.
5) Wore Cowboy boots.
6) Rode a Harley.
(I think for some conservatives, that is how they invision Jesus' second coming.)
I just wish I could remember the name of the film.
14 May 2008 at 11:22 a.m.
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stuckinthemiddle (Anonymous) says…
hmmm… I don't believe I've seen the film you're talking about… but would be interested in seeing…
sounds plenty funny…
14 May 2008 at 11:44 a.m.
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elevenbravo (Anonymous) says…
It is curious how people can be so wrong about certain issues. It is only an issue because of the lack of knowledge and education. Like most bigots they rely on what little incorrect information that has been fed them instead of thinking for themselves. Any small bit of research will reveal the truth about concealed carry and legal gun ownership.
These people would rather run around and spread the ridiculous fear that has been instilled in them.
It really is tragic to live life based on emotions conjured by inaccuracies. The fear these individuals live with not only borders on paranoia but also influences their overall quality of life. It truly is sad; the only hope is they are strong enough to deal with this fear. Otherwise I hope they can find treatment that ultimately is successful.
As for lack of media attention regarding self defense, this is the standard. There are websites that compile local stories involving legal self defense incidents; it is surprising how many happenings there are daily. However the national media shies away from these stories; as with any establishment they too have their own agenda.
Above I referenced legal gun ownership. Illegal gun ownership is just that, illegal. It exists now and will always exist. The powers that be can try to limit illegal possession of weapons but will never eradicate it. Same with any issue whether it is drugs, homemade explosives, robbery, cable theft, identity theft, or speeding, ect. take your pick. People do wrong, then, now and forever. Get used to it.
At the very least give yourself a fighting chance. Educate yourself; do not choose a substandard quality of life. Not to mention when you give your opinion you will not be judged so harshly by the masses. However, if you must cling to the fear here is some advice courtesy of Samuel Clemens, “It is better to keep your mouth closed and let people think you are a fool than to open it and remove all doubt.”
14 May 2008 at 11:52 a.m.
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Multidisciplinary (Anonymous) says…
If people were reduced to using spitwads and straws…
others would object to the paper production and plastic.
14 May 2008 at 11:53 a.m.
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smartmomma (Anonymous) says…
No description of a suspect?
Are there no cameras @ kwik-shop/walgreens/US Bank ???
14 May 2008 at 11:57 a.m.
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stuckinthemiddle (Anonymous) says…
let's see…
who would seem to be paranoid and in fear…
the person who doesn't feel the need to carry a gun?
or the person who does?
14 May 2008 at 12:23 p.m.
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Becky (Anonymous) says…
He he he this has been all very amusing.
How this became a CCL discussion is very amusing. Are the citizens of Lawrence this paranoid? LOL very amusing and amazing.
14 May 2008 at 12:30 p.m.
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lildos (Anonymous) says…
none2 (Anonymous) says…
“I think they close around 10pm. I LOVE their commercials, but their food “doesn't taste better” as it is too bland, and for a place glorifying the 50's, they should offer malts.”
I really hope you are joking about liking those commercials…in my opinion those commercials are so bad they are the reason people are shooting each other.
14 May 2008 at 12:54 p.m.
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none2 (Anonymous) says…
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elevenbravo (Anonymous) says…
It is curious how people can be so wrong about certain issues.”
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Nice try.
I'm sorry to inform you, but I know what I'm talking about. You see my father squandered a small fortune on weaponry. He is legally blind now, so thank goodness he doesn't carry a concealed weapon. Its his money, so he is free to choose to spend it on whatever he chooses. I wouldn't have made the same choices. I'm not passionate about anti-gun laws: You won't find me in an anti-NRA demonstration. However, don't tell me I don't know about the paranoia that some gun owners have as I know it first hand.
There are professions where obviously one needs weaponry. Perhaps there are even neighborhoods where one needs weaponry. However, the majority of gun fanatics don't fall into those categories.
If you really fear for your life, I suggest you take some self-defense lessons before you go gung-ho on guns. Sure, if we have a catrosphe like “War of the Worlds” or “The Day After” or some other Hollywood kind of dooms day scenario where food, shelter are scarce and people are desperate; then I can see where I'll have to become a gun slinger. However, I don't plan for the dooms day scenario. I just refuse to live my life in fear that there are people out to get me or my family.
So call me a fool for certain if that makes you happy. I have enough self-esteem at my age, that I couldn't care less. Simply, I would rather have that label than one of a paranoid gun fanatic.
FYI: I plan on buying a shot gun. However, it is to protect my chicks — not to hold my head up high and tell myself I'm doing it for everybody's benefit as some part of a private police force.
14 May 2008 at 1:03 p.m.
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Pink_Sock (Anonymous) says…
These comments are so hilarious…I keep in touch with Lawrence news per the web just for the comments. Thank you all. OUt here in California, there is so much chaos with murders, rapes, theiving, revenge, accidents, etc…..
The point is, in order to live here you have to accept it and hope that none of this stuff happens to you. The local news sources do not have comment sections available like this but if they did, there would be too many to read. Thanks LJworld.
14 May 2008 at 1:06 p.m.
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elevenbravo (Anonymous) says…
Do you have a spare tire in your car?
Do you have a fire extinguisher in your house?
Do you have medical insurance?
Do run you car out of gas then get gas?
Do you wash your hands?
Do you clean up spills on your floor?
Do you do jumping jacks in the shower?
Do you leave your doors unlocked at night?
According to stuckinthemiddle if you answed yes to these you are paranoid.
My favorite, for the all the anti-gunners, if you are so against guns will you put a sign announcing there are no guns in you house? If not, why not?
14 May 2008 at 1:11 p.m.
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none2 (Anonymous) says…
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lildos (Anonymous) says…
“none2 (Anonymous) says…
“I think they close around 10pm. I LOVE their commercials, but their food “doesn't taste better” as it is too bland, and for a place glorifying the 50's, they should offer malts.”
I really hope you are joking about liking those commercials…in my opinion those commercials are so bad they are the reason people are shooting each other.”
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Yep, I love them. From the singing Marilyn Monroe, the cowboy children, the children eating French Toast, etc. I think they are great. They are much better than the stupid Burger King commercials, the dorky Sonic commercials, the stupid Cable vs Satellite commercials, the dumb car commercials, etc. (DIsclaimer: Sure they aren't of the caliber of the Super Bowl commercials and will never win an Oscar [or whatever they give for great commercials].)
Other commercials I like are:
1) Alltel (has the clean cut blond kid representing Alltel against the nerdy guys (Sprint, Verizion, T-Mobile, ATT).
2) There was some local Pizza place with a singing commercial:
Pizza __________;
great Pizza, great Price
All-u-can eat for 3.99
It had the cutest little smiling girl with big eyes and big cheeks that made you want to give her a big teddy bear… Anyway, that song just kept playing over and over in my head — except I just cannot remember the full name of the Pizza place.
I wish I could name more, but it has been a while since I watched much TV.
However, I doubt Spangles survives the long run. Until their food actually has some kick, I doubt it will ever be that popular. Of course as I age more, perhaps bland burgers is what I'll crave one day.
14 May 2008 at 1:16 p.m.
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dirkleisure (Anonymous) says…
My bet is the victim was PO'd about his Spangles order and got belligerent and threatening with the knife provided with his baked potato.
Luckily, the Spangles employee has a concealed carry permit and was packing behind the counter.
The employee was forced to “take him down.”
“You will sit quietly and eat your baked potato or you will face the consequences.”
Thank heavens the employee had taken the time to get a concealed carry license and had brought the weapon to work. An armed assailant with the knife provided with his baked potato is a threat to law abiding citizens.
14 May 2008 at 1:21 p.m.
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stuckinthemiddle (Anonymous) says…
do you wear a helmet when you drive your car?
would you think that some one who did was a bit paranoid?
your chances of needing a helmet in a car wreck to save your lift are far higher than you needing a gun to save your life from a bad guy…
elevenbravo
do you wear a helmet when you drive your car?
and…
I'm not anti-gun… I own guns and am glad that I can…
but I don't fear being attacked by bad guys to the point that I feel the need to carry a gun with me…
I've said it on other gun threads here and I'll say it again…
if you think you need to carry a gun to stay safe then you should do that…
most people don't feel that need…
and… no doubt about it… if you really want your gun to be effective in keeping away bad guys you should wear it out in the open…
and… just for the fun of it:
Do you have a spare tire in your car? - No
Do you have a fire extinguisher in your house? - No
Do you have medical insurance? - Yes
Do run you car out of gas then get gas? - Sometimes
Do you wash your hands? - Yes. This is the number one thing you can do to keep yourself safe!
Do you clean up spills on your floor? - I don't get spills on my floor…
Do you do jumping jacks in the shower? - If my shower was big enough I might…
Do you leave your doors unlocked at night? - Yes, but I have a gun in the house…
14 May 2008 at 1:22 p.m.
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monheim (Anonymous) says…
If you don't think C/C would help, you need to go watch the diaper-stealing scene from Raising Arizona.
“Son….you got a panty on your head!”
14 May 2008 at 1:23 p.m.
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orbiter (Anonymous) says…
“My favorite, for the all the anti-gunners, if you are so against guns will you put a sign announcing there are no guns in you house? If not, why not?”
Not anti-gun, but I wouldn't put a sign on my house because it would look pretty freaking stupid. Who puts signs on their house announcing what possessions they own?
If you are trying to make a big “boom, gotcha” point might wanna step it up a bit, Mr.Clever.
14 May 2008 at 1:33 p.m.
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elevenbravo (Anonymous) says…
“There are professions where obviously one needs weaponry. Perhaps there are even neighborhoods where one needs weaponry. However, the majority of gun fanatics don't fall into those categories”
You are correct, the profession happens to be American Citizen”. It is every Citizens job to protect the freedoms afforded us. You see we are taught what the 3 branches of Gov't are and how the check and balance each other. Very little attenion is paid to who or what checks and balances the Gov't as one entity.
“However, don't tell me I don't know about the paranoia that some gun owners have as I know it first hand.”
Some? What a qualifier. Can you be a little more vague?
“If you really fear for your life, I suggest you take some self-defense lessons before you go gung-ho on guns. Sure, if we have a catrosphe like “War of the Worlds” or “The Day After” or some other Hollywood kind of dooms day scenario where food, shelter are scarce and people are desperate; then I can see where I'll have to become a gun slinger. However, I don't plan for the dooms day scenario. I just refuse to live my life in fear that there are people out to get me or my family.”
Thanks for the advise on the lessons. I think I just might have that covered. Not sure what your standards are though so I can't be sure.
As for “dooms day” and all that. Is that what I think? Is that what all these gun people think? Oh right, I forgot…some.
“I have enough self-esteem at my age, that I couldn't care less.”
I never knew self-esteem came from age…for some, right?
“Simply, I would rather have that label than one of a paranoid gun fanatic.”
Is this a label? By who? A lot of people? You? Maybe some. Some people are paranoid about getting wet, paranoid umbrela fanatic.
“FYI: I plan on buying a shot gun. However, it is to protect my chicks — not to hold my head up high and tell myself I'm doing it for everybody's benefit as some part of a private police force.”
Good luck on you firearm purchase. Are these girls of yours in grave danger? Be careful buying a gun you don't want to become like “some” people.
To address you “private police force” statemen. Could you get me some more information on this. I would like to know where they meet and what the requirements are for joining? Also, is the dues monthy or is it a quarterly charge? Do you have to buy your own uniforms? Who can I contact if I need protection?
14 May 2008 at 1:41 p.m.
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elevenbravo (Anonymous) says…
orbiter,
Good job, you got most of the point.
Any of my questions would be stupid to answer yes to.
Do you have any answers to the other questions? Are you as afraid as the rest of the people doing this crazy stuff?
But of couse I'm a paranoid nut case so take it all with a grain of salt.
14 May 2008 at 1:59 p.m.
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Marion (Marion Lynn) says…
You see, in spite of the readily available evidence, the psychos and Looney/Lefties who hang around here equate criminal acts with firearms ownership and CCW permits.
They operate on an emotional level rather than a rational level and represent a clear and present danger to all of us, even themselves.
Of course, the entire left operates on a emotional level.
14 May 2008 at 2:06 p.m.
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none2 (Anonymous) says…
elevenbravo (Anonymous) says…
“Do you have a spare tire in your car?”
Oh yes, and I keep the tire iron near me cause I know I got to bash some heads cause someone out there is out to get me.
“Do you have a fire extinguisher in your house?”
You bet, especially the ABC kind as it really can slow down an intruder, because as you know someone is out there to get me.
“Do you have medical insurance?”
You bet, cause when that person that is out to get me, tries to shoot, he might get a shot off at me, and I'd have to have pain medications.
“Do run you car out of gas then get gas?”
No way. I keep an additional can in the car. You never know when you need to set someone on fire as someone is out there to get me. Plus my only option may be to run over that person who is out to get me.
“Do you wash your hands?”
No way, I like the taste of animal poo in my food. Plus when I shoot that person who is out to get me, I want to enjoy the smell of the gun powder to remind me that I am the next best thing to a super hero. Batman, Spiderman, Superman your my buddies!
“Do you clean up spills on your floor?”
No, I want it wet — especially by the door. I want that person who is out to get me, to slip and fall so I can enjoy that moment when quickly send him on his way to SATAN!
“Do you do jumping jacks in the shower?”
Sorry, don't have the space. Plus I don't want to spend too much time in the nude with out my big gun. I feel inadequate without it. Plus that person who is out to get me, could come after me at any time. I've seen Psycho, so I know those people out to get me love to attack shower curtains.
“Do you leave your doors unlocked at night?”
You bet. I want that person who is out to get me to be in my house when I shoot him. That way there is no doubt that it was self-defense when I blow a hole in his head.
14 May 2008 at 2:07 p.m.
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elevenbravo (Anonymous) says…
stuckinthemiddle
“do you wear a helmet when you drive your car?”
I have when a sactioning body requires it. As a matter of fact as dangerous as cars are it would not be a bad idea. You do know they kill more people than…well never mind.
“but I don't fear being attacked by bad guys to the point that I feel the need to carry a gun with me”
Do you really think fear is why most (there is a word you should like) people carry?
“if you really want your gun to be effective in keeping away bad guys you should wear it out in the open”
WOW! Do you not understand that the whole point of C/C is that no one knows who could have one? Hi mister bad guy wait until all of us leave then do your worst. Hi mister bad guy shoot me first then you can have another gun.
That has to be one of the least thought out statements ever!
MAN, some people.
p.s. get a spare tire!
14 May 2008 at 2:25 p.m.
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rumor_man (Anonymous) says…
I just heard that the reason why this man was shot was because another customer at Kwik Shop was upset that the hot dogs weren't turning fast enough.
14 May 2008 at 2:26 p.m.
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stuckinthemiddle (Anonymous) says…
elevenbravo
it is fear… whether you know it is or not…
and I do like the word “most”… and “vast majority” has a nice right to it as well…
as in… most, if not the vast majority of people do not feel the need to carry a gun to protect themselves…
because they don't have that kind of fear of bad guys…
actually… “carry your gun out in the open” is the best thought out statement… ever…
so few people carry guns that criminals don't give it much thought…
but… you put that six-shooter on your hip in plain sight an criminals will mess with someone else…
the only reason I can think of that some one might want to keep a gun hidden is because they want some body… maybe a bad guy to mess with them… so they can use it…
wear it out in the open and the chances of you ever having to use it are great decreased…
and indeed… some people…
some people feel the need to carry a gun to feel safe… the need they feel is a fear…
finally…
I don't need a spare tire because I don't fear getting a flat…
14 May 2008 at 2:27 p.m.
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none2 (Anonymous) says…
elevenbravo (Anonymous) says…
““There are professions where obviously one needs weaponry. Perhaps there are even neighborhoods where one needs weaponry. However, the majority of gun fanatics don't fall into those categories”
You are correct, the profession happens to be American Citizen”. It is every Citizens job to protect the freedoms afforded us. You see we are taught what the 3 branches of Gov't are and how the check and balance each other. Very little attenion is paid to who or what checks and balances the Gov't as one entity.”
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Are you sure you aren't from Waco? The only other people I heard talk like that were Palestinians working in Ottawa — the one in Canada. (It is a good thing I'm not Jewish.) They loved David Koresh. They said it was because he stood up for his rights and freedoms to the very end, but secretly I think it was cause of all the gals that were having his babies. Why wait for the after life when there is plenty of gals in this life.
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““I have enough self-esteem at my age, that I couldn't care less.”
I never knew self-esteem came from age…for some, right?”
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Sorry I should have said maturity. Mia culpa!
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““FYI: I plan on buying a shot gun. However, it is to protect my chicks — not to hold my head up high and tell myself I'm doing it for everybody's benefit as some part of a private police force.”
Good luck on you firearm purchase. Are these girls of yours in grave danger? Be careful buying a gun you don't want to become like “some” people.”
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Yep I've heard them, and my friend saw one in the driveway one night. So a shotgun will be purchased pretty soon before they get a whiff of my chicks.
No, don't worry I wasn't planning taking this future shotgun with me when I go out in public. Of course, maybe I should. Just think of how long its barrel will be. I bet the ladies would really be interested if they saw that concealed in my pant leg. Or even better yet, take it out in public, and that will really get their heads turning.
14 May 2008 at 2:28 p.m.
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weatherguy48 (Anonymous) says…
I live maybe 100 yards from that intersection and got home half an hour before it happened. I think I may have heard it too, I heard something like a gunshot but I didn't check the time when I heard it
14 May 2008 at 2:36 p.m.
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Multidisciplinary (Anonymous) says…
I heard he was disgruntled when he learned many of Wendy's dollar menu items have gone up to $1.19.
14 May 2008 at 2:55 p.m.
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d_prowess (Anonymous) says…
I hate to get off the gun discussion everyone is enjoying, but are the limited facts provided in the above story still all we know at this point?
Seems like we usually would know at least a bit more about the situation by this time. If not updated by the LJ World, some of the posters here would have been able to fill in some blanks.
14 May 2008 at 3:22 p.m.
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elevenbravo (Anonymous) says…
none2,
“Are you sure you aren't from Waco? The only other people I heard talk like that were Palestinians working in Ottawa — the one in Canada. (It is a good thing I'm not Jewish.) They loved David Koresh. They said it was because he stood up for his rights and freedoms to the very end, but secretly I think it was cause of all the gals that were having his babies. Why wait for the after life when there are plenty of gals in this life.”
I guess you've never studied U.S. history. You know all those old guys who started it all.
By the way it might be in your best interest to pick something other than a major Fed f-up to try and prove a point.
“No, don't worry I wasn't planning taking this future shotgun with me when I go out in public. Of course, maybe I should. Just think of how long its barrel will be. I bet the ladies would really be interested if they saw that concealed in my pant leg. Or even better yet, take it out in public, and that will really get their heads turning.”
Are you trying to say that people who carry a gun are compensating for something?
You keep coming back to this issue. Is there something you would like to get off your chest? Is this a fixation you have always had?
Those kinds of comments always came off sounding like jealousy to me. Then again I have never given any thought other men's equipment, so I really don't understand where you are coming from.
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14 May 2008 at 3:23 p.m.
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Colt45 (Anonymous) says…
I heard the police were looking for a light skinned black male wearing a hoodie. This from a conversation this morning with an leo aquaintence of mine. The shooting occurred behind the quikshop and the victim made his way into the store.
Off topic: The quikshop is posted prohibiting concealed carry in the store.
14 May 2008 at 3:34 p.m.
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elevenbravo (Anonymous) says…
Colt45,
Sucks that they are in a Gun Free Victim Zone I liked their dark roast.
14 May 2008 at 3:46 p.m.
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orbiter (Anonymous) says…
“orbiter,
Good job, you got most of the point.
Any of my questions would be stupid to answer yes to.”
Hahahaha. People with ridiculously bad rhetorical skills are so cute! Especially when they condescend so hilariously as you.
Here are your first questions:
“Do you have a spare tire in your car?
Do you have a fire extinguisher in your house?
Do you have medical insurance?
Do run you car out of gas then get gas?
Do you wash your hands?
Do you clean up spills on your floor?
Do you do jumping jacks in the shower?
Do you leave your doors unlocked at night?”
And here is the one I commented on:
“if you are so against guns will you put a sign announcing there are no guns in you house? If not, why not?”
Let's play a game:
Which one of these questions is not like the other one?
Once again, please come with something stronger if you want to destory everyone with your amazingly clever arguments. And you might want to understand your own devices before you start your silly retorts.
I realize acting smart makes you feel smart, just like acting like you are under seige makes you feel like you are under seige.
Unfortunately for you, acting smart makes your seem dumber than you probably are.
Fortunately for you, acting like you are under seige doesn't change the fact that you're probably gonna die like most Americans: car wrecks and disease caused by unhealthy lifestyles. (Of course with a gun on your person you're probably upping your chances of a gun related death. There's a feather in your cap!)
Good try again, Mr. Clever. You're your proving to be as rhetorically capable at as most paranoids.
14 May 2008 at 4:05 p.m.
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