Archive for Tuesday, May 6, 2008

Federal Highway Administration supports SLT route through Baker Wetlands

May 6, 2008


The Baker Wetlands are full of water from heavy rainfall in late March. Thirty-first Street borders the area to the right.

The Baker Wetlands are full of water from heavy rainfall in late March. Thirty-first Street borders the area to the right.

South Lawrence Trafficway: 32nd and 42nd St. options

South Lawrence Trafficway: 32nd and 42nd St. options

The Federal Highway Administration officially has thrown its support behind construction of the South Lawrence Trafficway along a route through the Baker Wetlands.

The feds signed off on the final environmental impact statement for the road earlier this month.

The move opens the possibility for the state to use federal funds to partly pay for construction of the SLT.

A start date for the $148 million project remains uncertain -- due in part to threat of a lawsuit from opponents to an alignment through the Baker Wetlands, as well as an unclear transportation funding picture at the state level.

The five-mile stretch of road would connect the link the western portion of the road with K-10 highway southeast of Lawrence.

The official record of decision is available on the South Lawrence Trafficway Web site at

The Final EIS released by the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers is available in CD-ROM format by contacting the KDOT Bureau of Design at 785-296-3901 or 1-877-550-5368 (toll-free in Kansas).

The record of decision will be available after May 7 during normal business hours at:

-- Federal Highway Administration, 6111 SW 29th St., Suite 100, Topeka.

-- Kansas Department of Transportation, Bureau of Design, 11th Floor, Eisenhower State Office Building, 700 SW Harrison, Topeka.

-- Haskell Indian Nations University Library, Tommaney Hall, Haskell Indian Nations University, Lawrence.

-- Anschutz Library, Kansas University, 1301 Hoch Auditoria Drive, Lawrence.

-- Lawrence Public Library, Local Document Collection, 707 Vt., Lawrence.

-- Douglas County Public Works Department, 1242 Mass., Lawrence.

-- Lawrence/Douglas County Metropolitan Planning Office, 1st Fl., City Hall, 6 East Sixth St., Lawrence.

-- Baker University Collins Library, 606 8th Street, Baldwin.


KS 9 years, 11 months ago

Just go on with the * thing. People want engery, but they vote down a power plant. They won't support a nuclear plant either. Windmills "CAN'T" provide enough, but they won't decrease the demand. Still on their computers, cell phones and cable TV, internet connections, etc. We complain about the price of gas, but we can't drill in our own country where the oil is. Might goof up the mating pattern of "whatever". We would rahter burn up $3.50 per gallon gas while sitting at stop/go lights on 23rd street. We oppose roundabouts for the same reasons. Where the hell is the logic in all of this? There is none.

stuckinthemiddle 9 years, 11 months ago

I don't really care one way or the other... I don't think it will be any more of a shock to the local ecology than all the other development that goes on...on the other hand... it won't do me any good if it's built...I don't need it...and maybe it's a waste of money...

Kyle Miller 9 years, 11 months ago

I was just simply saying that the commuting traffic does start around 4:00 to 4:30ish, but yes, does get pretty heavy around 5:00 - 5:30. Once again, if the bypass would have been finished like it should have been, all the traffic commuting would be able to stay off these roads cutting down on city traffic.As far as the T..... what a waste of money. Lost money each year so far. The good ol Lawrence Traffic Calming Devices.

just_another_bozo_on_this_bus 9 years, 11 months ago

This is news? Too many Important People with money and egos at stake to have come to any other decision.

4chewnut 9 years, 11 months ago

So, how many lanes will the road actually be? At one time I heard that it would actually only be another two lane road. If true, that sure doesn't

LogicMan 9 years, 11 months ago

Good! It will save lots of fuel and provide economic development for southern Lawrence (e.g., jobs!) when done. And the expanded wetlands to the east will provide good habitat for the various creatures.

jumpin_catfish 9 years, 11 months ago

It should be built but I have little hope that this thing will ever get built.

stuckinthemiddle 9 years, 11 months ago

were these wetlands man made in the sense that there was an intent to make wetlands?or... was this just the way nature responded to things that people did... like southern Lawrence development... in particular, road construction, and more particular yet, the construction of 31st street?if the later is true... then I think they are more "nature made" than man made...

stuckinthemiddle 9 years, 11 months ago

Baille I think maybe you had a dyslexic moment...with Kaw.. instead of Wak...

BigPrune 9 years, 11 months ago

How much have these lawsuits over the past 20 years cost the taxpayers, $100,000,000? How many lives have been lost due to accidents on a Super Two-Lane road as compared to the 4 lane highway originally planned? How many thousands of dollars were lost when the protesters sabotaged the construction equipment on the first leg of the highway? How much money was lost when Clinton Parkway had to be reduced to 2 lanes from 4 lanes out by Clinton Lake to accomodate the 2 lane bypass instead of the 4 lane originally planned?The losers need to suck it up. Just build the damn road.

The_Voice_of_Reason 9 years, 11 months ago

Hey maybe they can finish the south leg and then finish an eastern leg between I-70 and K-10 and call the whole loop I-420 in honor of all the pot heads in this town!

newsreader 9 years, 11 months ago

oh just build the dang road or don't, aren't we all so tired of hearing about this??

LogicMan 9 years, 11 months ago

"not sure how it's going to provide economic development for southern Lawrence:"An automotive/industrial area is planned for the large plot of land just southeast of the current bridge to nowhere. And the existing businesses should get a noticeable boost, especially the restaurants, movie theater, and motel. A big fueling station is needed, and I vote for on the west side of 59 (on a raised patch in that farm field south of the SLT) because there are plenty of stations already on the east side of Iowa.Someone make the old Uno's a Spangles! Or a Wendy's. Opportunity knocks but once ...

just_another_bozo_on_this_bus 9 years, 11 months ago

"I think we ought to ask the Garden City City Commission what they think. Or the Garden City legislative delegation."I agree-- after all, this is going to cost everyone in the state, on average, something approaching $100 apiece.

Kyle Miller 9 years, 11 months ago

The treehugger/squish head society never will see the positive side to it. rolls eyes

just_another_bozo_on_this_bus 9 years, 11 months ago

Has the cost of the construction increased, or has the grandiosity of the road just increased?No matter, really. The road is still a stupid idea. Was back then. Is now. That construction companies are going to gouge us worse now for an even stupider idea than what they started with is hardly a good reason to build this.

geniusmannumber1 9 years, 11 months ago

This means that the project maybe, possibly, could be started three years or so from now.

Evan Ridenour 9 years, 11 months ago

Who cares if it goes through the wetlands... those wetlands are MAN MADE and if I remember correctly part of the plan for building this extension is to build a larger wetland area. The wetlands won't decrease in size, they will increase!

Poon 9 years, 11 months ago

Hail to the Bridge to NowhereHail to the roundaboutsHail, hail to PLC and the SLTHail to the Elkins PrairieHail to the Dirty BirdHail, hail to Larryville the best town in the world

just_another_bozo_on_this_bus 9 years, 11 months ago

The only reason any delays could meaningfully raise the cost of the road is if the cost has increased faster than the rate of inflation.Besides, if you're worried about the cost of the road, justfornow, by far the cheapest option is not to build it at all.

stuckinthemiddle 9 years, 11 months ago

4:00 traffic in Lawrence is pretty does start get a little more congested around 5:00...but if you stay off the main streets as much as possible (23rd, 6th, Iowa) it's not bad at all...if I lived on the west side of town I might care about this road... but as is, I don''s kind of like the T...

just_another_bozo_on_this_bus 9 years, 11 months ago

"FBI agents on Tuesday raided the offices of Special Counsel Scott J. Bloch :FBI agents also searched Bloch's home and a Special Counsel field office in Dallas."I've been wondering the same. But he is a favorite wingnut son.

Kyle Miller 9 years, 11 months ago

The wetlands were man made, but.... there is still a group of people in this town that can't accept that and still want to argue the fact that they arnt, that they have always been there, yadda yadda yadda.

Noweigh 9 years, 11 months ago

Build the thing. 30 years later and we still look like clowns.Remember the opposition said many of the same things to the bypass 2-lane that exists now from the turnpike to S. Iowa Street. I travel it almost everyday. It gets very heavy use. It is needed! So is the extension to K-10.Time for real life, common sense to prevail in this town once and for all.

Kyle Miller 9 years, 11 months ago post was already deleted. I guess it must have offended someone. I guess the truth actually hurts!

dirkleisure 9 years, 11 months ago

If they build it south of the Kaw, somebody will have to tear down Waxman's. And maybe Free State, too.On the bright side, they would also tear down the Journal World!

stuckinthemiddle 9 years, 11 months ago

LogicManI'm not trying to be contrary... but that sounds like just more of what Lawrence already has...I suppose that could be good if there's enough demand to support it... but it seems that a lot of businesses in Lawrence struggle as is...

Ragingbear 9 years, 11 months ago

You know, they could put it up on stone pillars, like they do Texas over their swamps.

Dorothy Hoyt-Reed 9 years, 11 months ago

That's right, put more money into supporting more auto use, and less into public transport and car pools. We need more and more cars, there just isn't enough smog around here. We're just too healthy.

b_asinbeer 9 years, 11 months ago me, I try to keep up. I only choose to post once in a while as I actually have stuff to do (job).

monkeyhawk 9 years, 11 months ago

I guess "global warming" became "climate change" after that recent world wide drop in temps wiped out an entire decade of "warming". The disciples of propaganda are just hedging their positions.In the meanwhile, I'm sure it is the fault of man, whatever it is. Blame man first.

b_asinbeer 9 years, 11 months ago

Wow attack on someone without him/her even having posted. That's pretty low. Good luck in life buddy.

stuckinthemiddle 9 years, 11 months ago

maybe commuters should reconsider living on the west side of Lawrence... if they commute to the east for work:again... I've really got nothing against this road being built... but I don't see it as something vital or necessary for the community, as a would be nice for the folks who live out west... particularly the ones who commute to the east for will save them probably about 10 minutes and day and maybe a buck or so in gas:

gr 9 years, 11 months ago

Watch him spin it with global warming.

Baille 9 years, 11 months ago

Build it...south of the Kaw. And with no interchange at Louisiana. Or enjoy the march to becoming Olathe and all the lawsuits along the way.

Charlie Naramore 9 years, 11 months ago

I don't know if it's a new/serious idea, but that's actually kind of good/interesting idea.

Kyle Miller 9 years, 11 months ago

The debate of this needs to be overwith! It should have been built ALONG time ago. But.... there is way too many squish heads in this town to realize that it would actually benefit not only Lawrence, but the people who commute from ALL around the community. Its obvious that everyone that objects to this hasnt had to deal with the traffic issues starting around 4:00pm during the work week. What a nightmare!!!Its the same people that are so worried about the salamanders and ducks that still believe and can't accept the fact that the so called "wetlands" haven't been wetlands forever. I have family who years back actually farmed that land.Come on everyone...... lets think about what could benefit the community in a helpful manner instead of something that really doesn't serve much of a purpose except collecting water!

OnlyTheOne 9 years, 11 months ago

Yes, Newsreader, build it but build it in the correct location! Not where the developers have planned to have it for oh so many years. It's just like the second high school. It was preordained where it would be and they gobbled up land and held it for the profit of building on it.

ralphralph 9 years, 11 months ago

There will be no SLT in my lifetime ... unless it's part of that NAFTA superhighway !!! Aha! The SLT must be the 'back door' to the Gardner-NAFTA-Intermodal-Chinese-Mexican Superconductor!... just wanted to get more of an element of conspiracy going.

stuckinthemiddle 9 years, 11 months ago

not sure how it's going to provide economic development for southern Lawrence...

just_another_bozo_on_this_bus 9 years, 11 months ago

"So now your complaining about the cost? It's fools like yourself that are to blame, this thing could have been built years ago for a fraction of the cost:."That's a tired and baseless argument.

Baille 9 years, 11 months ago

The science behind the bumper sticker "global warming" never suggested that the average increase in the mean global temperature would result in the world-wide furnace effect that the Dittoheads take great pleasure in debunking.Just because you understand the straw man argument does not make it valid. It just means you lack understanding.

kansas778 9 years, 11 months ago

cool (Anonymous) says: excellent idea !logrithmic (Anonymous) says:Those wanting it should pay for it. $4 tolls until the $200 million investment for 5 miles of roadway is paid off.******And when are all the people like yourselves who have been hassle going to pay for the millions extra the delay has cost?I'll pay the $4 dollar toll when you pay me back for the decade plus of time and gas the rest of us have had to spend sitting in traffic because of you.

hatealluwant 9 years, 11 months ago

First of all you can hate all you want. How would you feel if people from your family were taken from their homes and eventually died out in the wetlands? All you haters out there can say that we are just cry babies. But ignorance is not bliss now it's just stupidity. Haskell has been here for over a hundred years and yes no matter what you might think there are children still out there. We will fight for our people and for what we believe in so bring it on.

just_another_bozo_on_this_bus 9 years, 11 months ago

I wuv you, too, justfornow. I hope someone can tuck you in.

jayhawk166 9 years, 11 months ago

THANK GOD!!!! Lets get it built!!!!!!!!

doubledogleg 9 years, 11 months ago

many thanks to Senator Pat Roberts who has pushed this project and initiated the Corps of Engineers review process. a big step toward getting the SLT Built!

hatealluwant 9 years, 11 months ago

Man you people are funny absolutely funny. Here we are going through climate change and destroying our earth and all your worried about is saving a few bucks. Some of you must not think about your childrens future. What happens to them when the earth is all destroyed and they don't have any clean water or food because people like you destroyed it.

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