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Riders can share KU, city buses

June 25, 2008

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City commissioners on Tuesday unanimously agreed to a plan that will make it easier for area residents to ride either city or Kansas University-operated transit bus.

Commissioners praised a proposal that would allow KU students to ride the T for free if they show a KU ID. City residents who have purchased a T bus pass also would be able to ride the university buses for no fare.

The new system would begin Aug. 18 when KU's fall semester begins.

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jafs 5 years, 9 months ago

Given the miserably low mileage that the buses get (about 6mpg, if that), it would require vastly larger numbers of riders to merely break even with individuals driving their own cars (which get 3x+) the mileage, especially with the dopey routes/schedules.We have looked into using the buses to get to/from work - it would require going the wrong way to downtown, waiting 20 minutes for a transfer, and then going to work. The whole trip would take about 45 minutes - it takes 10-15 to drive.Our cars get about 20mpg - more than 3x the buses.Until they improve the routes/schedules, we'll continue to drive, thank you.And, I have made my comments/suggestions known to Mr. Galante, the fellow in charge of the buses. I suggested that simply routing buses along major streets in both directions would be more efficient, and encourage more ridership.He doesn't seem to have been interested in that idea.Even environmentally, I believe we're doing better to drive our own cars.And, btw, we have looked into using the bus system from several different locations - none have been feasible.

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not_holroyd 5 years, 9 months ago

You nailed that one on the head Boston. And he has the best bus access in the city, in the state, for that matter, and he still complains.His eyeshades never allow him to see the good in anything. Just a sad lonely old man on the internet. While personally benefiting from the growth of the City that he likes to complain about.

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Boston_Corbett 5 years, 9 months ago

Looks like HawkperchedbytheRiver is looking for a free handout. Just like the homeless he complains about. I say as long as he can afford his internet access, he can pay for a bus fare.

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Jonathan Kealing 5 years, 9 months ago

Slit,Oh yeah, I know. I was more commenting on the specific point raised in the story. The new policy goes into effect with the new fall semester, hence no need for bus passes.

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sittinthefence 5 years, 9 months ago

Jonathanhttp://www.kuonwheels.ku.edu/buspass.shtmlBus passes are still needed until the fall semester starts on August 21st.

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hawkperchedatriverfront 5 years, 9 months ago

Will the KU bus offer a discount to the elderly as the T does? Why does one have to buy a pass?

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mom_of_three 5 years, 9 months ago

My junior high and high school kids do ride the T home from school, but the bus schedules would have to accomodate the school dismissal schedules better for more students to utilize the T. The T runs by Lawrence high several minutes after the bell rings, so the students have to be on the ball. If they don't catch that one, then they can walk to 23rd street, and wait until the next one goes by in about 30 minutes. Wednesday early dismissal for junior highs makes it more difficult also.

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just_another_bozo_on_this_bus 5 years, 9 months ago

As a permanent policy, this wouldn't work. But as a temporary measure that begins a merger of the two systems, it's a good first step.

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Confrontation 5 years, 9 months ago

Thanks for the information, JKealing. That makes more sense now!

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Jonathan Kealing 5 years, 9 months ago

Confrontation,There's no such thing as a KU bus pass any more. The students voted last year to pay a higher transportation fee so all students can ride.Jonathan KealingOnline editor (and former KU reporter)

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Confrontation 5 years, 9 months ago

This appears to mean that any KU student can use the T, regardless of whether they have a KU bus pass. Interesting.

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JackRipper 5 years, 9 months ago

Exactly dialupandy!!! Besides fuel our other "crises" is health care and with the boomers getting ready to suck down all the funds available for health care the least we can do are the simple things like walking. Diabetes is exploding and the reasons given are lack of exercise and eating too much. It isn't rocket science. Let's use all those fuel reserves around our waist, the great untapped energy fields available right now without any drilling!

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Andrew Stahmer 5 years, 9 months ago

"City residents who have purchased a T bus pass also would be able to ride the university buses for no fare."Which pass(es)? All/any of them? Monthly pass? One day pass? Punch cards? Just the regular T passes and/or the T-Lift passes? All of the above?"The new system would begin Aug. 18 when KU's fall semester begins."Does this mean the whole 'crisis' is over? No November salex tax vote needed??"Now if only USD 497 would become part of the community and make this work for public school students."I know the current/past policy is that any student gets a half-fare when they show their school i.d.I've been thinking about this whole 'emp-T" thing..aren't all of us suppoed to do our part to conserve? So then when a bus isn't very full doesn't it reflect on how selfish some people are being? They are refusing to do their part to conserve. They insist on driving their own cars...so how full are these cars they're driving? Is it just one person? One person in an SUV? How exactly is that conserving? What, you 'live too far away from a bus stop!' Well, besides gas prices--people being overweight in this country is also a problem...walk a few blocks! It'll do you good! Quit complaining about empty busses...quit being selfish and taking your car with one person in it. Get off your lazy butt and walk to a bus stop. If nothing else, why aren't you car-pooling?? How about more walking or biking? How about thinking about someone besides yourself? How about meeting some of your Lawrence neighbors on a bus? How about supporting a city service instead of whining and moaning about it? Make it worth it and save yourself some gas money at the same time! How about going from the 'I don't wanna use the bus!" To 'gee, I should do my part and take the bus, at least from time to time!" Think of someone besides yourselves people.

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jafs 5 years, 9 months ago

I think this is a big mistake.The "T" already collects a smaller percentage of it's operating costs from fares than most other public bus systems.

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Richard Heckler 5 years, 9 months ago

Thanks KU and City Commissioners for working together on this all important matter. KU on Wheels is all over this town and runs late into the night.Gas Prices Promote Surge in Mass Transithttp://www.nytimes.com/2008/05/10/business/10transit.html?_r=1&adxnnl=1&oref=slogin&partner=rssnyt&emc=rss&adxnnlx=1214389211-6j7Kyore8TAXymo6w9WnhANow if only USD 497 would become part of the community and make this work for public school students. Passes would be bargain if gas were at $2.49 a gallon.

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