Archive for Thursday, July 31, 2008

Bush signs new rules for spy agencies

July 31, 2008


— President Bush approved an order Wednesday that rewrites the rules governing spying by U.S. intelligence agencies, both in the United States and abroad, and strengthens the authority of the national intelligence director, according to a U.S. official and government documents.

Executive Order 12333, which lays out the responsibilities of each of the 16 agencies, maintains the decades-old prohibitions on assassination and using unwitting human subjects for scientific experiments, according to a PowerPoint briefing given to Congress that was reviewed by The Associated Press.

The new order gives the national intelligence director, a position created in 2005, new authority over any intelligence information collected that pertains to more than one agency.

The order directs the attorney general to develop guidelines to allow agencies access to information held by other agencies. That could potentially include the sharing of sensitive information about Americans.


cato_the_elder 9 years, 9 months ago

Daytrader, I will take the liberty of speaking on behalf of a number of my fellow posters on this site and encourage you to remain in your own Garden of Eden across the water, and as far away as possible, from us.

Karl Rubis 9 years, 9 months ago

Actually, the article is conjuring up a massive shift that doesn't really exist. Firstly, Executive Order 12333 has existed for many years encapsulating policies that go back to the Clinton Administration; what they are reporting is that it was amended. Secondly, none of the 'changes' they suggest are really changes to the authority it already had. It was always the basis of guidlines directing collection of information, outside and inside the U.S. The real change, according to the article, is that it gives the DNI real authority to coordinate intelligence as collected by agencies. This was one of the major issues (the lack of coordination between agencies) that several commissions found to be broken in the proper analysis of information on foreign targets. The CIA has always been protective of its products and didn't want to share it with the NSA, and this goes for all the agencies. The good thing is to break down the fiefdoms and work together.So, if you look through the sensationalist hype, the act is actually a good move. An attempt to enforce the sharing of information to prevent control by any one agency.

Satirical 9 years, 9 months ago

daytrader....Perhaps you are unaware of how the United States government works, but it is the responsibility of the executive branch to deal with foreign nations, with the exception of declaring war which must be approved by the legislature.

Confrontation 9 years, 9 months ago

I'd almost bet money that Bush thinks that James Bond is in charge of the CIA.

Flap Doodle 9 years, 9 months ago

Worth repeating:"15 July 2008 at 9:09 a.m.spiderman (Anonymous) says::i am withdrawing from the forum:"

lounger 9 years, 9 months ago

BUsh s*cks the life out of our rights....again. Six months and counting. Not soon enough until Georgie Porgie is gone....

jonas 9 years, 9 months ago

Oh, c'mon Cato and Madmike, without people like Daytrader, who would you have to scapegoat when your idealistic and impractical agendas and policies fail?

Daytrader23 9 years, 9 months ago

His last ditch effort to destroy our constitution before Obama gets the keys to the white house. It seems to me that the worlds most powerful superpower is losing the war to a small group of thugs hiding in caves. They hate us for our freedoms and Bush fights this by removing our freedoms? "But its to protect us daytrader" Protect us against who? Are you really so scared of a bunch of rag heads that your willing to give up your freedoms? Just when I think I'm ready to move back to America Sh*t like this happens, no thank you. I'm staying in Europe, where democracy still works, we have more freedoms, better wages, higher standard of living and when people protest the governments listen and work out a solution. When you protest in America you are greeted by riot police where you may either A) get pepper sprayed. B) get tasered. C) get shot in the face by a rubber bullet. D) get mutilated by 10 cops and their sticks. E) land in jail. or F) All of the above. usa! usa! usa!

Satirical 9 years, 9 months ago

logicsound04..."So, I'm just curious, does this order fit the definition of "conservative"?"Conservatives don't believe a federal government shouldn't exist. The constitution clearly gives the power to deal with foreign nations to the executive branch, this is needed for uniformity so every state doesn't have its own foreign policy. I cannot give a better answer unless you are more specific about how you believe this order contradicts conservative philosophy

cowgomoo 9 years, 9 months ago

Did anyone actually read this article before posting? The EO maintains the longstanding rules on assasination and human experimentation while clarifiying and defining the flow of information between federal agencies.The sharing of information, or rather lack of sharing information, between federal agencies was a big problem pre 9/11. This EO is a good thing, as far as one can read from this short little article.

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