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Deadly motorcycle accident causes closure of 23rd and Iowa intersection
One person is dead following an accident between a motorcycle and a semi-truck. The accident happened around 4:30 this afternoon at 23rd and Iowa and shut down the busy intersection for most of the evening.
July 15, 2008, 4:32 p.m. Updated July 15, 2008, 10:34 p.m.
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A motorcycle rider was killed Tuesday afternoon about 4:30 p.m. at 23rd and Iowa streets. The cyclist, who was wearing a helmet was struck by a semi-truck as he tried to make a turn.
One person was killed after a semitrailer collided with a motorcycle shortly before 4:30 p.m. Tuesday. Lawrence police confirmed the motorcyclist, described as a white male, died in the accident at 23rd and Iowa streets.
Lawrence Police Sgt. Bill Cory could provide no more information about the incident or the victim, but said he expected to release more details Wednesday. A helmet lay near the motorcycle at the accident scene. The man who died was the lone passenger on the motorcycle.
The intersection of 23rd and Iowa streets remained closed nearly six hours after the accident.
It was the second fatality in less than a week involving a large vehicle colliding with a two-wheeled vehicle. On Saturday, a Lawrence man was killed on Sixth Street after his scooter was hit by a city bus.
On June 28, a Douglas County Sheriff’s deputy was killed while riding his bicycle near Eudora. Also in June, a man died in a motorcycle crash near Lone Star Lake.
John Lavery, who works at CVS at 23rd and Iowa streets, said the rash of such deaths made him nervous.
“It’s been pretty regular that this has been happening,” he said. Though he doesn’t ride a motorcycle, he knows people who do.
“I have a roommate and a friend that both drive motorcycles. It just kind of makes me nervous and sick,” he said.
That same nervous sentiment may have area residents asking what is going on, said Marcia Epstein, director of Headquarters Counseling Center.
“When people hear about really tragic and violent incidents in our community, and when their perception is that those kinds of incidents are more frequent than what is expected in this size of a community ... for most people, there’s an increased sense of fear and sadness and anxiety,” she said.
She said witnessing an accident scene can be traumatic, but it’s important to find people to confide in, whether it is a family member, a religious leader or a therapist.
“It’s good to seek our people that have special roles if you’re really having a hard time,” she said.
— Staff writer Janet Reid contributed to this report.
15 July 2008 at 4:37 p.m.
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mommaeffortx2 (Anonymous) says…
my oh my
15 July 2008 at 4:38 p.m.
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dweezil222 (Anonymous) says…
Probably another “T” bus.
15 July 2008 at 4:38 p.m.
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snake_eyes (Anonymous) says…
that'll do it
15 July 2008 at 4:40 p.m.
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WereAllMonkeys (Anonymous) says…
My Armchair detective bone says, someone ran a red light…..
15 July 2008 at 4:41 p.m.
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mommaeffortx2 (Anonymous) says…
jeez people at least wait for a few facts first, get a grip on your negative.
15 July 2008 at 4:43 p.m.
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merrill (Anonymous) says…
A semi truck struck a person on a motorcycle. The rider appears not to have survived according to a phone call we received.
15 July 2008 at 4:44 p.m.
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Ramsfield (Anonymous) says…
what a summer in L-town.
15 July 2008 at 4:46 p.m.
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Curtis Lange (Curtis Lange) says…
So, which one ran the red light? Hopefully everyone is OK either way.
15 July 2008 at 4:48 p.m.
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mommaeffortx2 (Anonymous) says…
my negative says no. Motorcycle vs semi never a good end.
15 July 2008 at 4:51 p.m.
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Hwy50 (Anonymous) says…
I went through the intersection shortly after it occurred. No, the person on the motorcycle did not survive.
15 July 2008 at 4:56 p.m.
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yankeelady (Anonymous) says…
What on earth is going on in this town this summer? I've been here over 30 years and I can't ever remember this many tragedies in such a short time.
15 July 2008 at 4:59 p.m.
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crosstownbytch1 (Anonymous) says…
does anyone happen to know who it is yet? i know to many people that ride and now im worried!
15 July 2008 at 5 p.m.
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sunshine_noise (Anonymous) says…
I had a dodge a few cars at lunch myself. Traffic is crazy out there today. It was a matter of time before a motorcyclist gets it. Not that gas is so high and more bikes are out more accidents will happen. People pay attention, be courteously and keep it moving at a steady pace.
15 July 2008 at 5:09 p.m.
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stanggirl (Anonymous) says…
I drove up on it and it did not look like a good situation at all…I'm really shaken up by what I saw and pray for all those involved in such a tragic accident.
15 July 2008 at 5:10 p.m.
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George_Braziller (Anonymous) says…
Did you even read anything before you hopped onto your keyboard? Nope. It clearly said that it was a semi. Oh, wait. You're a troll. My bad.
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dweezil222 (Anonymous) says…
Probably another “T” bus.
15 July 2008 at 5:10 p.m.
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frwent (Anonymous) says…
My son's car was hiit and totaled at the intersection of 9th andTennessee a few days ago. Woman ran a red light. Now there is the hassle of a rental car, and a settlement, and finding a new ride. I don't know what is going on, but the increase of traffic accidents and near-misses is drasticlly increasing and I put a lot of it on the use of those damned cell phones while driving. Do you really need to make that call while driving and drivel on about your girlfriend, your lousey job, your tax return, your supper tonight or god-knows-what and be guilty of injuring or worse, killing someone due to your inattention to managing a fast moving assualt vehicle in traffic???? It is time for people to get their heads on right, but of course this does not apply to YOU, eh???????
15 July 2008 at 5:10 p.m.
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ClearSkies (ClearSkies) says…
First of all, don't assume that someone ran a red light. In cases like this it seems people only focus on who's fault it was, and not the fact that it was a fatality and people out there are hurting.
Dweezil222: Probably another T bus
- How can you be so insensitive to the driver of that bus' feelings? It was an accident. It was clear that the driver tried to stop by the way the bus was left positioned in the road.
My condolences go to the family and friends of everyone involved.
15 July 2008 at 5:11 p.m.
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institches (Anonymous) says…
You think it is bad now? Wait until the students return.
Can we all just be a little more cautious on the roadways, please?
Thank you.
15 July 2008 at 5:13 p.m.
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Peaty (Anonymous) says…
Another tragedy :( Unfortunately I feel motorcycle accidents are only going to increase. More people, that have not acquired the proper skill, are going to purchase them because of the price of gas. a motorcycle safety course is a very good investment. I got my first motorcycle when I was a kid in 72' I sold my motorcycle a few years back. It's dangerous enough but now there are too many cell phone users and SUV's on the road for me.
15 July 2008 at 5:14 p.m.
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always4ever (Anonymous) says…
You may have a point about cell phones…..but………it probably wasn't a factor in this accident or the mo-ped fatality accident. True that we all need to be careful and attentive!
15 July 2008 at 5:15 p.m.
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chapdaddy (Anonymous) says…
finish the g d SLT and lighten up the traffic on 23rd d*mmit!!!!!!
15 July 2008 at 5:15 p.m.
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msskansas2u (Anonymous) says…
I happened to drive by this accident right after it happened, it was very bad. The motorcyclist did not survive, my condolences go out to his/her family. I feel for the semi driver as well, regardless of who was at fault, I couldnt imagine living with that guilt.
15 July 2008 at 5:16 p.m.
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tangential_reasoners_anonymous (Anonymous) says…
I've already configured my LJW comment defaults for auto-condole….
15 July 2008 at 5:17 p.m.
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ClearSkies (ClearSkies) says…
msskansas2u
-Agreed. It's unfortunate that people focus only on who's fault it is. It never seems to be important that someone out there is miserable.
15 July 2008 at 5:17 p.m.
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logicsound04 (Anonymous) says…
There has been a dark cloud of tragedy hanging over the town of Lawrence these last several weeks/months. It fills me with sadness to think of all who have lost their lives in our corner of the world recently.
Let's show our humanity and pick each other up.
Please, refrain from political commentary on this thread.
15 July 2008 at 5:19 p.m.
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R8RH8RHENDO (Anonymous) says…
My thoughts are with the family and friends no matter who it is. Please dont be anyone I know. Be strong.
15 July 2008 at 5:22 p.m.
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BaxterC (Anonymous) says…
Me and a friend drove by after it happened, the poor guys helmet was thrown far away. The police hadn't even bothered to move his body yet. That intersec is pretty dangerous when people try to make the yellow lights.
15 July 2008 at 5:22 p.m.
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Piggles (Anonymous) says…
Wow- what's happening to Lawrence this summer????? I'm almost scared to death to even read the news anymore! Sunday going east on K-10, there was a motorcycle that was actually driving between two cars because I guess he felt they were going too slow. He passed them and several other cars right down the middle so he could get ahead and he wan't wearing a helmet.
15 July 2008 at 5:25 p.m.
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BigPrune (Anonymous) says…
It was a bad scene. I saw a tarp and a helmet lying about 20' away.
My heart goes out to all involved.
A bypass may have prevented this kind of accident.
15 July 2008 at 5:25 p.m.
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crosstownbytch1 (Anonymous) says…
R8R - i am with you on this my thoughts go out to all involved and i pray it is not anyone we know or a friend of a friend. There as been to may accidents involving two wheeled transportation so please everyone just watch alittle closer please
15 July 2008 at 5:28 p.m.
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msskansas2u (Anonymous) says…
I personally have driven past many a fatallity accident in my time living in California, still driving past the accident today made me quite nauseous, no one should ever have to see what I and I'm sure many others saw. What makes me curious by some of the comments on the page is how unaffected some of us locals have become by the death of another. Especially in the recent weeks. Lets all be respectful of the families of the deceased and those involved, and be reminded of the humanity in the situations.
15 July 2008 at 5:33 p.m.
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News_to_me (Anonymous) says…
Don't you people have anything better to do?
15 July 2008 at 5:35 p.m.
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sunflower1990 (Anonymous) says…
Horrible. Absolutely horrible. My condolences to the family. I dread looking at the breaking news now.
15 July 2008 at 5:40 p.m.
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Piggles (Anonymous) says…
The real scary thing is that I went through that intersection about an hour earlier on my way to Hyvee to go pay my Aquila bill. It's unfortunate that another person has lost their life, due to carelessness or not paying attention or hurrying “to beat the light” or whatever the reason is. I'm not sure of a worse summer for Lawrence than this year and I have lived here my whole life. Please those of you on bikes, scooters, motorcycles, mopeds or anything- wear your helmets and use caution!!! Your family and friends shouldn't have to go through what the friends and family of those who have lost their lives this summer go through. Please have a safe summer- what's left of it!
15 July 2008 at 5:41 p.m.
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yellowhouse (Anonymous) says…
I just saw this guy at the gas station Sunday.
I was admiring his beautiful red Honda with three wheels.
It was the most quiet motorcycle I ever seen. I even commented how safe one that big would be. He looked so small sitting on it.
I don't like motorcycles but thought…Now I could ride on that one….
I just changed my mind
I am in shock!
15 July 2008 at 5:56 p.m.
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bad_dog (Anonymous) says…
“I was admiring his beautiful red Honda with three wheels.”-yh
I could be wrong, but that looks like a 2 wheeled Honda Goldwing to me-not a trike.
My condolences to all involved.
15 July 2008 at 5:56 p.m.
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shirinisb (Anonymous) says…
Personally I think that a lot of gas conservation news stories fuel the idiot driving. They encourage people to coast instead of stopping. I haven't wrecked a car in 10 years but I the past few months I have had to avoid them every mile. Its getting old.
15 July 2008 at 6:01 p.m.
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domino (Anonymous) says…
Baxter - your comment of “the police hadn't even bothered to move his body yet” is off base - the police do not move the body - EMS personnel or coroner does - even at that, there are certain regulations that have to be followed before a body can be moved.
My condolences to the family.
15 July 2008 at 6:02 p.m.
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hwarangdo (Anonymous) says…
Motorcycles, scooters, bicycles … very dangerous territory riding them in a culture that has grown up with cars. People simply don't 'see' them, nor look for them. Our psyche isn't programmed to see much other than a car or truck. Sad but true. If you have riden anything other than a car you'll know what I'm talking about. Not all accidents are caused by the car's drivers; however, many of them are - turning left in the path of an oncoming motorcycle, failing to stop behind, pulling out in front of, etc. Granted, some cyclists are careless, but so are people who drive a 2-ton car.
These kind of accidents have always been a problem. Until the gas prices go so high that we ALL have to bike, it will continue to be a problem.
“Beware - Motorcycles Are Everywhere!”
15 July 2008 at 6:03 p.m.
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indythinker (Anonymous) says…
As a rider, it pains me to see these types of tragedies. I know of an accident yesterday where a rider “ran” a yellow and clipped the rear of an SUV that was in the intersection making a left. The guy has a 10% chance. Personally, I can't count the times I've almost become someones hood ornament. Everybody…peace out when you are driving people whether you are driving or riding.
Condolences to all involved.
15 July 2008 at 6:06 p.m.
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MarianKay (Anonymous) says…
Try being a pedestrian! It is dangerous to even walk. Everyone—cyclists, walkers, drivers— please pay attention.
My condolences to all involved
15 July 2008 at 6:07 p.m.
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George_Braziller (Anonymous) says…
What's your point? Someone is dead and you're smacking people because they are talking about it? Don't YOU have anything better to do?
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News_to_me (Anonymous) says…
Don't you people have anything better to do?
15 July 2008 at 6:08 p.m.
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horsegirl (Anonymous) says…
Piggles, I saw a motorcycle driver doing the same thing on K-10 last Wednesday. Driving between cars, weaving in and out of traffic. Crazy. The problem is more motorcycles on the road equals more accidents. Just pure statistics. We've actually stopped and helped two accidents on Highway 40 in the last 3 months… both hit the rumble strips and lost control. Luckily they were both okay, just banged up. Very sad though. My husband and I used to have a Goldwing almost identical to the one in the wreck. Beautiful bike. But so easy to get hurt on. So we sold it. I feel for all those who are suffering now.
15 July 2008 at 6:08 p.m.
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xbusguy (Anonymous) says…
My condolences to the family.
What is going on in Lawrence?
No more… we have had more than enough
15 July 2008 at 6:11 p.m.
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FFAF (Anonymous) says…
This is really depressing. We've gotta pull together and be a little more careful. I wish there was an easy answer.
15 July 2008 at 6:11 p.m.
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frustratednks (Anonymous) says…
Why did Lawrence ban Semi's on 31st street? It seems like a bad idea to cause more congestion on an already congested street. Could this accident have been avoided if Semi's could use 31st street?
15 July 2008 at 6:12 p.m.
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tangential_reasoners_anonymous (Anonymous) says…
Sharing space…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sf-O5o4aq…
… 'nuff said!
15 July 2008 at 6:15 p.m.
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tangential_reasoners_anonymous (Anonymous) says…
[Drat… bad link]
Sharing space…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sf-O5o4aq…
… 'nuff said!
15 July 2008 at 6:17 p.m.
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TheEleventhStephanie (Anonymous) says…
Well tang_reasoner, do whatever it takes to make you feel like you're better than everyone else here.
15 July 2008 at 6:18 p.m.
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Andrew Stahmer (Andrew Stahmer) says…
Wow…I just had crossed (pedestrian) that intersection about 20 minutes before it happended. I can't help but think every time something like this happens; if two cars, or a motorcycle and a car.. etc. etc. can't help hitting each other..what hope do I have as a pedestrian!? So I practice 'defensive pedestrianism” — I'm the one who will not cross in front of you no matter how much you motion me to. I appreciate you trying to be polite, but I just don't trust you. I'd rather be 'rude' and alive..than trusting and dead. …and you pickup drivers; you are the WORST…the bigger and more jacked up the pickup, the bigger the jerk in it who has no regard for any other car or bike (and especially) any pedestrian. It doesn't apply to EVERY pickup driver…but 95% of you!! It's almost a 'superstition' with me, if I can at all avoid it, I will not cross in front of a pickup…if I have to wait through another cycle at the light…that's the price for staying in one piece!!
15 July 2008 at 6:19 p.m.
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tangential_reasoners_anonymous (Anonymous) says…
TheEleventhStephanie: “Well tang_reasoner, do whatever it takes to make you feel like you're better than everyone else here.”
Eh?
15 July 2008 at 6:23 p.m.
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lristh1230 (Anonymous) says…
I have a teenager turning 16 and she wants her license to drive to school and back. I don't think that will be happening any time soon. I don't to sit here and worry every time i hear sirens going off. I think they should up the age on drivers permits and license's. There are too many crazy drivers now days.
15 July 2008 at 6:27 p.m.
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TheEleventhStephanie (Anonymous) says…
Forgot to say my condolences to the family. It's been a sad summer in Lawrence, to be sure.
15 July 2008 at 6:28 p.m.
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kugradstudent (Anonymous) says…
This is so sad. I passed by the accident a little while ago, What a way to go! The body was still there; RIP. My heart goes out to his family and friends.. Be safe folks and believe me catching the next green light might just be saving a life.. yours or someone else's.
15 July 2008 at 6:30 p.m.
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rdragon (Anonymous) says…
I happened to be by there after it happened. Douglas county sheriffs were inspecting the trailer of the big truck. They were inspecting an area of the trailer, it looks like rider might have went under the trailer. We should all pray for those involved, and try to enjoy the time we have here. One never really knows when it will be done.
15 July 2008 at 6:30 p.m.
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Bossa_Nova (Anonymous) says…
dialupandy, i hear what youre saying and youre makin sense to me.
15 July 2008 at 6:31 p.m.
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em1 (Anonymous) says…
Not for nothing, but it amazes me how eager everyone is to defend the cyclist. With the increase in the number of cycles of anytype recently, I have also seen an increase in stupid cycle riders. I watch and am VERY careful of them, my dad rode a cycle for years. Had a guy on a cycle who was driving on the sidewalk down Iowa decide to cut across the grass and onto the road right in front of me without looking. I am shocked I didn't hit him. Cyclist last week was shown to have been at fault and possibly intoxicated. GRanted, there are idiots in cars who have not looked at all while I was riding a bicycle or walking across Iowa when I had the right of way (I had the walk across signal) and I've had people try to make a right on red straight into me. But to assume one person is at fault when there are idiot cycle riders AND idiot car/truck drivers is just getting no where
I can understand the economics of riding a cycle of any sort but PLEASE take a safety course and WEAR a HELMET.
Speaking of which, I find it amazing that in order to meet the law here a bicyclist has to wear a helmet, but drivers of motorcycles, scooters, etc. do not.
My sympathies go to the family.
15 July 2008 at 6:35 p.m.
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Jonathan Kealing (Jonathan Kealing) says…
em,
The motorcycle rider WAS wearing a helmet. The helmet looked like it had been badly mangled, according to our reporters on the scene.
Jonathan Kealing
Online editor
15 July 2008 at 6:37 p.m.
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em1 (Anonymous) says…
I got that, I was referring to the populace in general. For every helmet I've seen recently I've seen 10 or 15 without.
15 July 2008 at 6:38 p.m.
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crosstownbytch1 (Anonymous) says…
just wondering if anyone know if he was from lawrence
15 July 2008 at 6:42 p.m.
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sunflower1990 (Anonymous) says…
sassy
15 July 2008 at 6:53 p.m.
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Informed (Anonymous) says…
My condolences and prayers to the family of the motorcyclist.
My sympathies and prayers to the driver of the semi and his/her family.
I was diverted north onto Iowa at 5:00pm and saw the body. My stomach tightened.
To all out there ~~ be aware of each other, regardless of what they/we are driving, riding or walking.
To em1 ~~ Adult bicyclists are not required by law to wear a helmet. (But many of us won't ride without one.)
15 July 2008 at 6:54 p.m.
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PapaB (Anonymous) says…
Everyone drive carefully. What's the saying? - these come in threes?
15 July 2008 at 6:54 p.m.
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Multidisciplinary (Anonymous) says…
First, my empathy for the families involved.
ClearSkies (Caitlin B) says…
msskansas2u
-Agreed. It's unfortunate that people focus only on who's fault it is. It never seems to be important that someone out there is miserable.
And to similar posts.
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People ask for facts, and faults to try to make sense of any tragedy. Just a great big “WHY” in their minds. At least if they can piece together the chain of events, it helps a bit, but doesn't erase the fact of the loss.
As to those who say, I hope it wasn't someone I know…
Good grief! It was 'Someone!', and we should all feel something. How awful to say, better someone I don't know!
After all, a whole lot of people on this earth don't know you..does this mean you don't matter?
15 July 2008 at 6:58 p.m.
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rdragon (Anonymous) says…
Multidisciplinary very good point. If any of you have lived in this town for a period of time. It is a very good chance it could be a family member or friend of someone we know.
15 July 2008 at 7:01 p.m.
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crosstownbytch1 (Anonymous) says…
Muilti says.. As to those who say, I hope it wasn't someone I know…
Good grief! It was 'Someone!', and we should all feel something. How awful to say, better someone I don't know!
After all, a whole lot of people on this earth don't know you..does this mean you don't matter?
Those of us who said that do send our prayer but that fact is that most of us probably have lived in lawrence all our lives or close to it and know alot of people. And also that we are a part or very very close to the motorcycle community and we have lost someone very close to us in a wreak not to long ago and another that was hurt so we are not meaning no disrespect at all it is just that we have had alot of loses lately
15 July 2008 at 7:08 p.m.
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Multidisciplinary (Anonymous) says…
Yep, I understand compound grief is a bad thing.
Let's not forget a woman was lifeflighted from around Baldwin today.
My our thoughts be with her family too.
15 July 2008 at 7:08 p.m.
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tangential_reasoners_anonymous (Anonymous) says…
rdragon: “Multidisciplinary very good point. If any of you have lived in this town for a period of time. It is a very good chance it could be a family member or friend of someone we know.”
… or, even if you've only *lived* for a period of time… it “could just be” another sentient being.
The word *empathy* comes to mind.
( BTW, all you DISsenters out there, don't mistake my flippancy for lack of sympathy… you do us BOTH a DISservice. )
15 July 2008 at 7:09 p.m.
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kujayhawk (Anonymous) says…
My four year old came within an inch of being hit on his bike this last Sunday. We were waiting for the crossing light to turn so we could cross the street. Some lady in a blue Volvo with a jayhawk tag in front takes off and makes her right turn even though we had been sitting there about 3 minutes waiting for the light to turn. My son had started walking across the cross walk and she literally missed him by a few inches. She still doesn't realize how close she was to hitting my four your old. Drivers today are terrible. Too many distractions.
15 July 2008 at 7:11 p.m.
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KsTwister (Anonymous) says…
Journal World: When are you going to turn this off? Shameless. Evidently you need comments for the next article?
15 July 2008 at 7:14 p.m.
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jonas (Anonymous) says…
Wtf?! Seriously, is the apocalypse coming or something?
15 July 2008 at 7:16 p.m.
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workinghard (Anonymous) says…
My son has been looking for a used scooter to buy to save on gas, at this point I'm glad he can't find one. Things will get crazier the 1st of Aug (it always does) when all the new students start flowing in. Not having 19th street done will not help. I think I will stay off the main streets as much as possible that month.
15 July 2008 at 7:20 p.m.
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ClearSkies (ClearSkies) says…
Multidisciplinary “atleast if they can peice together the chain of events it helps”
Who are you to generalize everyone's way of dealing with tragedy? Blaming people and saying it's to 'help' feel better about the incident, that is just a poor excuse.
There was nothing wrong with the comment I submitted about people focusing on who is at fault. Next time that you want to submit a comment just to start an argument, why dont you talk about someone who actually said something disgraceful.
Thanks.
15 July 2008 at 7:22 p.m.
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tangential_reasoners_anonymous (Anonymous) says…
Multidisciplinary: “Yep, I understand compound grief is a bad thing. Let's not forget a woman was lifeflighted from around Baldwin today. My our thoughts be with her family too.”
As you were composing this, I was seeking a mortality rate via Internet search. Couldn't quickly find one, but lives must be ticking away like the second-hand on a clock. Folks, this *is* the human condition. Why mire it in petty convention and then lambast those who depart from expectation (posturing)?
There ARE other *valid* responses beyond: “My condolen