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KU rejects proposal for beer sales in union
Students hoped a new proposal would allow 3.2% beer sales on the first level of the Kansas Union. However, the proposal - approved in February by the KU Memorial Corporation Board - was not OK with Provost Richard Lariviere.
July 7, 2008
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Beer on campus
The taps will remain off at Kansas University's Jaybowl.
Students were hoping a new proposal - packed with safety measures - would allow those 21 and older to enjoy a 3.2-percent beer while bowling on the first level of the Kansas Union.
However, the proposal, which was approved in February by the KU Memorial Corporation Board, was not OK with Provost Richard Lariviere.
He informed board members of his decision through a memo Monday.
"There are a number of reasons why it would not be in the university's best interest, but the one the provost cited specifically in a very, brief memo to the board members was the serious nature of alcohol abuse among college students and the social issues surrounding alcohol use," said Lynn Bretz, director of university communications.
Bretz said the fact that KU plays host to events for high school and grade school students weighed into the decision. Lariviere, who is out of town this week, also considered a survey of other Big 12 schools that found only four served alcohol.
Bill Walberg, a senior from El Dorado Hills, Calif., and a member of the union board, led the effort to bring back beer sales.
"Even though I do disagree with the decision that was made, I am in full support of what the provost decided to do," he said. "I do see that this could hurt the image of the university and deter what the goal of the university is, which is education. So, I can see where he is coming from on that."
Walberg said the provost's decision would be discussed Aug. 23 during the board's first meeting of the school year.
Beer was sold in the Union until 1998 when a task force of city, KU and Haskell Indian Nations University representatives convened after the death of KU student Lisa Rosel. She was hit and killed by a car driven by KU student Matt Vestal as she walked in the 1400 block of Tennessee Street. Police said both Rosel and Vestal were intoxicated.
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milkman_dan (Anonymous) says…
I remember the first time I got hammered in a college union. I was attending a Model UN at the University of Wisconsin in Madison. I used my fake ID and finished off two pitchers on my own. The next morning, on the way to breakfast I threw up over the second-floor outside balcony of the dorm. I felt better after that. At breakfast, I grabbed a table by the large plate glass windows. It was then I realized that I'd just provided a brown “waterfall” down the front of the windows. It made me smile as I thought about it. I can't believe the Provost doesn't trust college kids. Geez
7 July 2008
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ukillaJJ (Anonymous) says…
Would you rather have students abusing alcohol while driving to off-campus locations, or just drunk on campus?The choice is yours Mr. Provost?
7 July 2008
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Confrontation (Anonymous) says…
Yes! Either give them alcohol or they'll die! Slippery slope, baby!
7 July 2008
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Secret_Agent (Anonymous) says…
I would love to have a glass of wine when I eat at Improv (the Union's restaurant). Too bad KU takes a teetotaler stance. If people are taught responsibility and moderation there wouldn't be so much binging. It is, despite the Provost's opinion, possible to enjoy a drink or two without getting behind the wheel (we have Safe Ride!) and/or binging.
7 July 2008
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jimjones (Anonymous) says…
KU Union…Still BYOB
7 July 2008
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beobachter (Anonymous) says…
think post #1 explains why? Seen to many of these idiots to sympathize with their ignorant behavior.
7 July 2008
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Boeing (Anonymous) says…
That water…er 3.2 beer…is dangerous stuff. It should be kept out of our campus at all cost!
7 July 2008
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The_Original_Bob (Anonymous) says…
“…would allow those 21 and older to enjoy a 3.2-percent beer while bowling on the first level of the Kansas Union.”There is no way possible to enjoy a 3.2 draught beer. It has to be mighty cold to tolerate, but enjoyment? Nope.
7 July 2008
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beobachter (Anonymous) says…
Why is beer necessary for fun?
7 July 2008
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Multidisciplinary (Anonymous) says…
Depends on the guy's looks and portfolio, beo.
7 July 2008
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dweezil222 (Anonymous) says…
It's only necessary to make bowling fun.
7 July 2008
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sjschlag (Anonymous) says…
The KU Union is still BYOB.I go to Royal crest in the summer anyways, they have cheap game night on mon. and wed.
7 July 2008
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purplesage (Anonymous) says…
Get it off Mass St., too.
7 July 2008
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Eride (Anonymous) says…
I wouldn't drink that beer anyway so I don't care.Now if the Union starts serving Copperhead on tap…
8 July 2008
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whiskeysour (Anonymous) says…
why has the ljworld not published anything about the JoeCollege trial/testimony… am I the only one who has missed this? Its pretty bad when I'm going to cjonline to read about KU.
8 July 2008
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delta77 (Anonymous) says…
Of course, they are more than willing to serve alcohol to rich alumni and administrators in the Union.
8 July 2008
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fu7il3 (Anonymous) says…
A majority of rich alumni and administrators are over 21. A majority of students are not.
8 July 2008
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blue73harley (Anonymous) says…
It is too bad personal responsibility is an obsolete concept.Decisons like these are caused by the fear of rabid lawyers.I remember when beer was served at the movie concession stand in the union.
8 July 2008
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sizzleplate (Anonymous) says…
Who goes to JayBowl anyways? If you really need to drink and bowl there are other options…
8 July 2008
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sjschlag (Anonymous) says…
It's pretty east to BYOB to cosmic bowling at jaybowl…my friends and I did it all the time, and our scores improved as the night went on.
8 July 2008
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granny (Anonymous) says…
whiskeysour - you probably didn't read anything about JoeCollege in the JW because the owner is the son of a retired JW employee -
8 July 2008
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deskboy04 (Anonymous) says…
No beer drinking, smoking, or shooting fireworks….it's all bad for you. They should put in an organic snack bar at the bowling alley. Gotta go now, I am going to ride my bike.
8 July 2008
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iLikelawrence (Anonymous) says…
it was to prevent terrorists and evil doers from hurting our beloved jaybowl
8 July 2008
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Multidisciplinary (Anonymous) says…
sjschlag (Anonymous) says: It's pretty east to BYOB to cosmic bowling at jaybowl:my friends and I did it all the time, and our scores improved as the night went on.====lolBack in my day, the guys came into league from drinking beforehand.Their first game was okay, the second even better since they were warmed up. By the 3rd game, the serious beer had hit them.. and those scores really bit the dust.. but it was a great fun!
8 July 2008
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cutthroat717 (Anonymous) says…
I still remember taking bowling (I know, my secret shame) my junior year with some friends of mine and we'd always have two or three pitchers during “class” at the Jaybowl…(or maybe we couldn't have them during “class” and just had them before and after.)Good times.
8 July 2008
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Logan72 (Alia Ahmed) says…
Perhaps the university is trying not to upset the downtown bar owners by being in competition with them by selling beer. There have already been hard feelings between downtown merchants and the university. I also think it is not necessary to serve beer at the Union since a large number of students are under the legal drinking age.
8 July 2008
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Logan72 (Alia Ahmed) says…
Gl0ck0wnr- I don't know about that. It seems like a lots of younger people drink beer instead of other drinks because it may be a more cost effective drinking binge. You could be right though, Jaybowl would need to serve margaritas to entice me to drink and bowl. :~)
8 July 2008
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Confrontation (Anonymous) says…
Well, I'm just concerned that KU students will have absolutely no place to drink. What? There are other places that serve alcohol in Lawrence? Oh.
8 July 2008
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Jabb3r (Anonymous) says…
Good call. There is no place for 3.2-percent beer on campus; hold out for spirits.
8 July 2008
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i_have_only_valid_opinions (Anonymous) says…
Don't you think if you open the union to alcohol sales that you would have to open the stadiums to it as well? What would be the difference?
8 July 2008
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fu7il3 (Anonymous) says…
The union isn't owned by the university. It's owned by a corporation. The athletic department owns the stadium. They are owned by two seperate corprate entities.
8 July 2008
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dweezil222 (Anonymous) says…
Wait… KU doesn't even own its own union? Well heck, in that case, to whomever owns the union… tell the university to piss off and let's have some crappy 3.2 beer!
8 July 2008
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militant (Anonymous) says…
Next thing you know they'll ban guns in the union too.