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Former GOP Sen. Helms dies at 86
July 5, 2008
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Sen. Jesse Helms, R-N.C., left, is congratulated by Sen. Lauch Faircloth, R-N.C., after Helms won his fifth term to the U.S. Senate in this Nov. 5, 1996, file photo. Helms has died at age 86, the Jesse Helms research center says.
Raleigh, N.C. When telling stories about Jesse Helms after his death on the Fourth of July, the politician who took his place in Congress recalled how the iconic North Carolina senator liked to invite pages to sit down and chat over ice cream.
“Can you imagine how excited these young people would be, sitting and having ice cream with the chairman of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee?” asked Sen. Elizabeth Dole.
Other stories weren’t as sweet.
Helms opposed the 1964 Civil Rights Act as a commentator and voted against its reauthorization once in the Senate. He notoriously registered his disgust in 1993 when President Clinton nominated an openly homosexual woman to serve at the Department of Housing and Urban Development. “I’m not going to put a lesbian in a position like that,” Helms said at the time. “If you want to call me a bigot, fine.”
“I wish, as do many people, that he would have used his strength and power to work for the civil rights movement instead of against it — what a legacy that would have been,” said the Rev. William Barber, president of the North Carolina chapter of the NAACP.
In the hours after Helms died early Friday at the age of 86, having spent the past few years out of the spotlight while in declining health at a Raleigh convalescent home, he was remembered by some as a patriot. Many noted with reverence that he died on the Fourth of July, as did Thomas Jefferson and John Adams, and praised his legacy as an unyielding conservative champion.
“I certainly can’t help but think the Lord made it happen that way,” said his longtime political strategist, Tom Ellis. “We know, at least conservatives know, what that meant to the cause.”
But there were also reminders that Helms was the often caustic “Senator No,” a man who in three decades in the Senate delighted in forcing roll-call votes that required Democrats to take politically difficult votes on federal funding for art he deemed pornographic, school busing, flag-burning and other cultural issues.
“He was a master at manipulating the politics of fear to his advantage, quite skillfully,” said Kerry Haynie, a political science professor at Duke University.
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5 July 2008 at 9:54 a.m.
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Weezy_Jefferson (Anonymous) says…
A certain song from “The Wizard of Oz” has been running through my head since I heard this news….
5 July 2008 at 11:55 a.m.
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ddayot (Anonymous) says…
You must be thinking of the scarecrow's song…….
5 July 2008 at 2:34 p.m.
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Weezy_Jefferson (Anonymous) says…
Guess again, ddayot.
It has something to do with bells going “ding-dong” and places where goblins go below.
5 July 2008 at 3:47 p.m.
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Centerville (Anonymous) says…
When Communist China overran Tibet, Senator Helms was one of the few politicians active trying to get help for the Tibetans. At the time, however, too many liberals were unwilling to admit what a wretched experiment communism was for anyone trapped in it. Only recently has the left reluctantly admitted that it was a terrible thing to let that invastion stand. He was a kind, intelligent man. Funny, too.
5 July 2008 at 3:59 p.m.
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yourworstnightmare (Anonymous) says…
Helms might have been a kind, funny man. As a politician he was an irrational right-wing bully who used his position to block, among other things, the civil rights act.
People must be judged by their actions, and his were usually mean, wrong-headed, and small-minded.
RIP Helms. May your God judge you as you judged others when you were alive.
5 July 2008 at 4:13 p.m.
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scott3460 (Anonymous) says…
YourWorstNightmare:
Ditto!
The sky seems a bit bluer today, the birds chirping a little sweeter. A piece of evil has left this world and we are all better for it.
5 July 2008 at 4:59 p.m.
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ddayot (Anonymous) says…
Hopefully nobody will be happy when you die and go up to that deluxe apartment in the sky, Weezy.
5 July 2008 at 5:18 p.m.
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scott3460 (Anonymous) says…
If they are it must mean I've been a pretty big jerk down here in this life.
5 July 2008 at 5:26 p.m.
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Weezy_Jefferson (Anonymous) says…
Correction, ddayout: It's the “de-e-e-e-lux” apartment in the “sk-y-y-y.” Heh heh.
5 July 2008 at 6:21 p.m.
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bennyoates (Anonymous) says…
When Communist China overran Tibet, Senator Helms was one of the few politicians active trying to get help for the Tibetans. At the time, however, too many liberals were unwilling to admit what a wretched experiment communism was for anyone trapped in it. Only recently has the left reluctantly admitted that it was a terrible thing to let that invastion stand. He was a kind, intelligent man. Funny, too.
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How about providing us with names of the liberals who, according to you, abetted the Chinese annexation of Tibet?
Usually, I avoid analogies between Nazis and Republicans, but in Helms' case I'll make an exception because if you place Hitler's ideology alongside Jesse's, the similarities are astonishing and convincing. Hatred for the very idea of rights for women, gays, and lesbians, along with a self-righteous dose of anti-communism to temper the notion that those outside the white race are subhuman.
The late Senator Helms's policy on Tibet might be impressive if he had had the same respect for the human rights of all U.S. citizens. Unfortunately, he was a white supremacist and a bigot whose contempt for “homosexuals” would've made Fred Phelps beam with pride.
Sorry, opposition to communism doesn't earn anyone a free pass, especially not Jesse Helms. And Reverend Billy Graham's eulogy for Helms once again proved that the good Reverend is a spokesperson for white nationalism, whose stellar reputation in this country exposes the condemnation of Jeremiah Wright as racist hypocrisy.
5 July 2008 at 6:50 p.m.
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ASBESTOS (Anonymous) says…
Wait just a darn minute.
I state that a low life POS that the City of Lawrence “embraced” as a Cuban artist who later killed a woman was a low life and the woman should have evalutated the relationship better.
Yet now you “enlightened liberals” are celebrating a man's death and saying terrible things.
I guess you are not quite as enlightened and quite as elite as you think you are and you sure as heck are not on the moral high ground. And you have the audacity to guive me heck when asking very pointed questions?
Helms was not a “white supremecist” and the Rev. Jerimiah Wright exposed black racism.
Benny oats you are a myopic partisian fool.
5 July 2008 at 7:24 p.m.
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ASBESTOS (Anonymous) says…
Typical lefties, that claim they are “humanists” and are actuially dogmatic elitists.
Sad and delusional.
That would be a mutually exclusive description of what you guys are :
“worldly Kansas liberals”. That is a total contradiction of terms. What a hoot!
5 July 2008 at 8:24 p.m.
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bennyoates (Anonymous) says…
Asbestos, I claim no moral high ground, no elite status, no worldly perspective. Nor am I celebrating Mr. Helms's death or saying terrible things about the man. I am stating facts about his ideology and his legacy. If I have a problem with anyone, it is with the people who voted for Jesse Helms, over and over again. They are enemies of American freedom and human dignity.
5 July 2008 at 8:35 p.m.
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bennyoates (Anonymous) says…
When Harry Truman campaigned against Thomas Dewey, audience members were known to shout, “Give 'em hell, Harry!” This prompted Truman to reply, “I tell the truth, and they think it's hell!”
Here's journalist David Broder, hardly a liberal, telling the truth about Jesse Helms in 2001. To some, the truth might sound like “terrible things.”
http://www.racematters.org/jessehelmswhi…
5 July 2008 at 8:37 p.m.
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jonas (Anonymous) says…
This is an interesting mirror of the Ted Kennedy brain tumor thread from a few months back.
5 July 2008 at 8:43 p.m.
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ASBESTOS (Anonymous) says…
“Republican used to be a good political organization
pre -1960.
Now the RNC at a national level is more akin to the
Grand Oil Party !”
And you collective morons think the Democratic Party is virtouous? They are the worst hate mongers and smear merchants in history.
You guys are deluded.
Neither of the parties have any ethics, character, or values. The difference is that the GOP membership knows their people are liars, and the Democrats believe their politicians tell the truth and are pure as driven snow.
One simple question, Once Bush is out of the Oval office, you will no longer have someone to hate, where and what target is the next for you? Hatred and bigotry (even against the GOP) is bias, and you show you are biased.
What a bunch of deluded morons you guys are.
5 July 2008 at 8:45 p.m.
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ASBESTOS (Anonymous) says…
“This is an interesting mirror of the Ted Kennedy brain tumor thread from a few months back.”
Yes and notice that nationally there was no “glad he got cancer” from the rights in general. Not like the left wing blogs, and the crap you guys said today.
You guys are pathetic and show your lack of culture, character and substance.
You are “empty political shirts” with nothing but Bush hatred.
What will you do when he is gone in January?
5 July 2008 at 8:46 p.m.
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ASBESTOS (Anonymous) says…
Just remember all the crap about Tony Snow, and others like him that got sick, the left went off and was saying terrible things, same as you punks!
5 July 2008 at 8:56 p.m.
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bennyoates (Anonymous) says…
Again, Asbestos, you are wrong. There was plenty of abuse leveled at Kennedy on conservative websites after his diagnosis. Here's a comment from the LJW:
parkay (Anonymous) says…
Pull Ted's feeding tube first chance we get, and see how HE likes a 13-day brutal execution by starvation, like some of our disabled people get.
Regarding Tony Snow, I don't know about anyone else, but I said nothing in regard to his illness and you are irresponsible to say “the left went off” about him.
Again, my comments concerned Helms's ideology and his actions. He was an enemy of civil rights for black people, gays and lesbians, and women, no matter how many bowls of ice cream he ate with congressional pages (thanks, Senator Dole). I stand by those facts but that does not mean I celebrate the man's death. Nor do I equate him with President Bush, who, for all his faults, is no white supremacist.
Finally, it seems that in your zeal to condemn “the left” as a bunch of elitist sadists, you have overlooked the commentary of Rush Limbaugh, Ann Coulter, and so many others who have made careers out of mean-spirited spite that paints liberals as creatures with the morals of child molesters and terrorists.
5 July 2008 at 9:14 p.m.
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ASBESTOS (Anonymous) says…
Benny you are pathetic. I stated very clearly in my post that I said “”nationally”“. This is my point, you guys sit in one place in Kansas and judge the rest of the world with yout pathetic myopic limited vision.
Huffington Post and Moveon.org, mediamatters , dailykosand a host of others. IT was well chronicled. Yes there are some “on the right” that did say despicable things, but not to the degree and volume of the HuffingtonPost, Moveon, mediamatters et al ad naseum.
Rush, Anne, and all were widhing Ted the best, and I guess you don't read or watch many actual “news” shows. You just float around the left wing universe and let everyone else tell you what you opinion should be.
He was “no enemy” to black people. He was against 'affirmative action”. And no that is not anti black.
For you comment:
“Regarding Tony Snow, I don't know about anyone else, but I said nothing in regard to his illness and you are irresponsible to say “the left went off” about him.”
Dude, pull you head out of , …um. the sand… IF you are not going to educate yourself, and remain “blissfully ignornat' about what your party does, that is YOUR peoblem. (I raised hell with my party on 3 major issues and the Terry Shiao fiasco, and will call them out when they are wrong. Somehow the left never does this to the Democratioc Party, like Code Pink at the recent swearing in cermnomy for new immigrant citizens)
http://newsbusters.org/node/11614
http://mediamatters.org/items/2007071900…
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,2621…
The volume and content of the vitriol on the left far exceeds the right.
You need to clean up the left before you make any statements about the right.
5 July 2008 at 10 p.m.
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kansanjayhawk (Anonymous) says…
You may not always agree with him but you always knew where he stood! He was a principled man and few of them are left in politics.
5 July 2008 at 11:28 p.m.
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gayokay (Anonymous) says…
Won't Jesse be suprised when he stands before his maker. I would love to see his face when he learns that God is a big black lesbian.
www.KansasEqualityCoalition.org
5 July 2008 at 11:49 p.m.
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ReadingSports (Anonymous) says…
Jonas, When you're right, you're right.
6 July 2008 at 5:53 a.m.
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max1 (Anonymous) says…
http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5gZUL2…
He'll be remembered, in part, for the strong racist streak that articulated his politics and almost all of his political campaigns
http://reclaimthemedia.org/media_literac…
Former racist journalist and Senator Jesse Helms dies at 86
http://www.alternet.org/rights/90460/?se…
Race-Baiting Former Senator Jesse Helms Has Died
http://news.aol.com/political-machine/20…
They say that politics make strange bedfellows. Sometimes, however, the bedfellows are completely unsurprising. Politico has had some research leaked to them that links McCain chief strategist Charlie Black to very-recently deceased race-baiter Jesse Helms.
http://www.thenation.com/blogs/thebeat/3…
Jesse Helms was a segregationist, and a nasty one at that.
Long after his contemporaries abandoned old “Jim Crow,” Helms kept playing the race card when it served him politically. And when he was not picking on African-Americans, he picked on ethnic minorities, immigrants, trade unionists and gays and lesbians.
“Let us remember a life dedicated to serving this nation,” McCain declared in a statement on the death of Helms, to whom he was compared favorably by former Senate Majority Leader Bob Dole earlier this year. (Actually, Dole suggested that McCain was somewhat more conservative than Helms.)
One advertisement that Helms and his team created screamed: “White people, wake up before it is too late. Do you want Negroes working beside you, your wife and your daughters, in your mills and factories? Frank Graham favors mingling of the races.”
Republican strategist Charlie Black, perhaps the most prominent member of McCain's political inner circle (especially since he suggested that a terrorist attack on the U.S. would benefit the Republican's prospects this fall), advised Helms throughout much of the senator's career and played a particularly central role in the 1990 campaign, according to contemporary media accounts.
6 July 2008 at 7:44 a.m.
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ddayot (Anonymous) says…
If God is a big black lesbian, I'll go to hell.
6 July 2008 at 10:50 a.m.
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ASBESTOS (Anonymous) says…
At the time of a person's death it is customary to state the nice and good things they did, not to revel in the failures and disappointments.
Where is that PC, “everybody is accepted” that usually comes from the left?
Maxxy the moron cut and paster strikes again, and just does what current Democrtatic and liberals do in ths day, they make personal attacks, and keep going on. Heck the guy is dead!!! Your anger toward his means nothing now!!! Just like Bush he will be gone, you anger and rancor means nothing now.
So get an issue or an idea and figure out how to solve a problem othern than just personal attacks and hatred! That is all the Democratic Party has accelled at in the last 8 years: hatred of Bush.
6 July 2008 at 11:20 a.m.
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Corey Williams (Corey Williams) says…
Asbestos has said:
“What a bunch of deluded morons you guys are.”
“Maxxy the moron cut and paster strikes again…”
And then they say:
“…just does what current Democrtatic [sic] and liberals do in ths day, they make personal attacks…”
So I didn't know you were “Democrtatic”. Maybe instead of trying to keep Helm's memory alive, you could instead realize what a failed man he was.
And just wait. if the Democratic party wins the white house again, we'll all have to put up with your “…anger and rancor…” and “…personal attacks and hatred…” towards the Democratic occupant. Or do you not remember all that was said about Clinton?
6 July 2008 at 11:21 a.m.
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Corey Williams (Corey Williams) says…
“Your tax dollars are being used to pay for grade school classes that teach our children that cannibalism, wife-swapping, and the MURDER of infants and the elderly are acceptable behavior.”
— Jesse Helms, part of the text of a fundraising mailer sent out by the Helms campaign
6 July 2008 at 12:02 p.m.
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max1 (Anonymous) says…
“At the time of a person's death it is customary to state the nice and good things they did” -asbestos
So, you are saying we should never speak negatively about he recently dead no matter if they were scumbags.
“I state that a low life POS that the City of Lawrence “embraced” as a Cuban artist who later killed a woman was a low life and the woman should have evalutated the relationship better.” -asbestos
6 July 2008 at 12:04 p.m.
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max1 (Anonymous) says…
“Heck the guy is dead!!! Your anger toward his means nothing now!!!” -asbestos