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Obama-Clinton ‘unity’ raises questions

July 2, 2008


In keeping with his "messiah" image, Barack Obama might have been more at home in Bethlehem, Pa., than in Unity, N.H., when he and his "former" nemesis, Hillary Clinton, opened their new act on the road to mixed reviews.

We are supposed to forget everything they said about each other during the primaries. They didn't really mean it; or did they? This is why so many people are cynical about politicians. You never know if they are telling you what you want to hear, or what they hope you'll swallow in spite of evidence to the contrary.

As recently as late February, Hillary Clinton told "The 700 Club," "...there is a certain phenomenon associated with (Obama's) candidacy ... dangerously oversimplifies the complexity of the problems we face, the challenge of navigating our country through some difficult, uncharted waters." Has Obama become a ship's captain in so short a time?

Clinton opposed lifting the ceiling on Social Security payroll taxes, which Obama favors. Last November during the Democratic Presidential Debate in Las Vegas, she said, "I do not want to fix the problems of Social Security on the backs of middle-class families and seniors. If you lift the cap, that is a $1 trillion tax increase. I don't think we need to do that." For a Democrat to oppose a tax hike is surprising enough, but does Clinton now support Obama's position?

In March on CNN's "Newsroom," Clinton questioned Obama's readiness to be commander in chief. She said she and Sen. John McCain had crossed "the commander in chief threshold. ... You will have to ask Sen. Obama with respect to his candidacy." Is he now suddenly ready?

On MSNBC's "Hardball," Clinton mocked Obama for arguing that, "living in a foreign country at the age of 10 prepares one to face big, complex, international challenges the next president will face."

Obama was also highly critical of Clinton, saying in January that she is "willing to say anything to get a political or tactical advantage," a tactic he said "(erodes) people's trust in government" and that she is "part of a perpetual campaign that ... keeps us from solving problems."

Obama also ridiculed Clinton's claims to experience, saying they amount to "osmosis, as a consequence of having been first lady."

Obama has been at odds with himself, as well as Clinton. He told Iraqi leaders he would consult with them and the U.S. military, but he has also said before such consultations he will order a withdrawal of U.S. troops from Iraq.

On nuclear power, he was for it before he was against it. Last July, he said, "I actually think we should explore nuclear power as part of the energy mix." He repeated his support of nuclear power in September, but by December he said, "I am not a nuclear energy proponent."

Throughout the campaign, Obama said the D.C. gun ban law was constitutional, but on the day the Supreme Court found otherwise, Obama said, "it went beyond constitutional limits."

Now Clinton and Obama want to erase our memory banks, like that gizmo in the film "Men in Black." They even color coordinated their outfits to demonstrate how in-sync they have suddenly become. One needn't have been a fly on the wall at their private meetings to conclude some debt relief has been promised to the Hillary campaign in exchange for her support (though she and Bill have made enough money to relieve their own debt, but like true liberals they want others to pay the bill).

Speaking of Bill, The London Daily Telegraph reports the former president has told friends that Obama will have to "kiss my a--" to get his support. That he announced his "support" through an aide and not in person doesn't speak well for a unified party.

For all the talk of unity, it isn't union. One awaits the moment on "Meet the Press" or some other venue when Clinton and Obama are asked if they meant what they said about each other during the primary campaign, or should we believe what they are saying now?

If they were lying then, we can't trust him as president. If they were telling the truth then, we can't afford him as president.

- Cal Thomas is a columnist for Tribune Media Services.


dirkleisure 9 years, 11 months ago

Next week, Mr. Thomas will write a similar column about John McCain and his new BFF- Mike Huckabee and Mitt Romney.There is a lot of talk that Romney is the current frontrunner as McCain's Veep selection.

cato_the_elder 9 years, 11 months ago

Duplenty, you are quite representative of the group of hateful lemmings who blame the Bush administration for (1) the occurrence of a hurricane that directly hit the occupants of one of the most egregious examples of our failed welfare state, the aftermath of which disaster in no way resembled the later post-disaster reactions of the residents of Greensburg, Kansas; (2) gasoline prices that are controlled by worldwide supply and demand, greatly exacerbated by decades-long congressional refusals to allow expanded oil drilling and refining in this country; (3) an economy that has weathered the attacks on our citizenry on September 11, 2001, a host of natural disasters, oil price increases and other major problems that have little or nothing to do with who is occupying the White House; and (4) about 700 other items that people like you are always going to criticize (how could you have left out the Patriot Act, the left's favorite bete noir and one of the most significant reasons for our not having been attacked since 9-11? Did you not eat your Wheaties today? Or is it because you know that the vast majority of voters have no problem with it?). Concerning Iraq, it wasn't that long ago (try last fall, when the Dow was over 14,000) that administration critics were downplaying such economic success by attributing it to increased government spending relating to the liberation of Iraq and our continued presence there - of course, you can't have it both ways, but that's never bothered those of you who have hated President Bush since the time he was elected. As for your juvenile reference to "the worst administration in the history of the U.S.," your ignorance of history and the historical process is embarrassing. I'm tired of having to explain to people like you how this works, but I will once again suggest that you read David McCullough's excellent 1992 biography of President Truman. It certainly would be a better use of your time than continuing to display on this site the unfortunate failure on your part to have been the recipient of any semblance of a meaningful education.

cato_the_elder 9 years, 11 months ago

Great examples of the abundance of excellent fodder for Republican political ads, which the RNC has had in the works for some time. If Senator Obama does in fact receive his party's nomination in Denver, even with all his Soros/MoveOn money and planned TV time he won't have any material this good to exploit.

BigPrune 9 years, 11 months ago

One question for Obama: If there is incontrovertible proof that Soros is behind the increase in gasoline prices, which all indications show there is, will Obama admit to the American people that his big financial backer is hurting the American people financially to influence the election in his favor?

igby 9 years, 11 months ago

I can just imagine how it will be in the oval office.Just imagine the TV sitcom "the Jefferson's" and the "Bundy's". Move them all into one big white house at the tax payers expense.

cato_the_elder 9 years, 11 months ago

As is Garrison Keillor for the Obama campaign. Pathetic.

Godot 9 years, 11 months ago

Do a google search for PUMA and HOUND and JustSayNoDeal. Have fun

beatrice 9 years, 11 months ago

The first half of the first sentence of this article tells you all you need to know: this article is nothing but a hatchet job against Obama based on lies and fabricated perceptions. It has nothing to do with reality and speaks more of the author than it does its subject. Thomas is pretending to be a reporter but is nothing more than a shill for the Republican Party. Pathetic.

BigPrune 9 years, 11 months ago

Daytrader23,You say that Soros cannot influence the market and say this is B.S. He made $2.9 Billion!!!Has he flat out denied that he has speculated in oil lately? Has anyone asked? How much more will these unregulated hedge funds manipulate the oil markets and inturn the stock market? Don't the hedge funds set the price of oil? I'd think it isn't the oil companies fault that crude oil is so high, since they don't set the price. The futures do. How much can the American people take with the high gasoline prices? Enough to elect Mr. Soros' man into office so the gas prices might go down? The Wall Street Journal reported hedge fund operator John Paulson got a visit from Soros after Paulson had made about $4 billion betting on a housing collapse. Soros wanted to know how he had done it. Soros wouldn't talk to the Journal about his meeting with Paulson. Soros needs to ask a billionaire hedge fund guy like Paulson how he made his money, when Soros has been doing this for almost 40 years? Is it possible Soros invited Paulson to become a member in one of his private billionaire clubs to help sway voters into voting for Obama in the fall elections? According to numerous articles regarding the top ten earners in the Hedge Fund Market, the top five are: 1. John Paulson, Paulson & Co. ($3.7 billion) 2. George Soros, Soros Fund Management ($2.9 billion) 3. James Simons, Renaissance Technologies Corp. ($2.8 billion) 4. Philip Falcone , Harbinger Capital Partners ($1.7 billion) 5. Kenneth Griffin, Citadel Investment Group ($1.5 billion) Should the top 5, who also happen to be the only ones making over a billion dollars be investigated? Mr. Soros started move on . org, and is a financial contributor to Obama's campaign. "However, don't try to read any of his politics into his trades, he insists." The world economy will get worse than the Carter years of the 1970's. Goldfinger has to get his man elected. Of course, the recovery will start towards the middle of Obama's presidency so he will look good as dramatic changes to the economy happen by the lowering of gasoline prices. Just in time for his re-election bid. So Daytrader, how is it that Soros cannot influence the market? People listen, just as people listen to Mr. Buffet. He might be a weirdo nutcase too, but they are both good at what they do and leaders in their field and their actions speak louder than words. I noticed Soros bought stock in an auto parts store - they are booming! He did it late last year. Great timing.

sfjayhawk 9 years, 11 months ago

The unity that should have raised the most questions - and has caused the most harm is the one between bush, a man about to mispronounce his way into the history books, and his boss, Mr Cheney. - so many failures - where should we start : Their attack on Women's rights? The refusal to believe in Science? Pie in the Sky Foreign policy? Currency devaluation? Big Oil? Halliburton's billions in war profit? Guantanamo and Abu Ghraib and the DICK Cheney agenda of torture and rendition and pre-emptive aggression and war? What about unchecked corporate cronyism, Oil execs writing environmental laws, Putting a patron in charge of FEMA, the shunning of the United Nations and of international law, the Patriot Act, wiretapping and surveillance and "evildoers" galore? How about the grief of thousands of American families and the pain of tens of thousands of maimed veterans? Say what you want about Clinton, Cry about the the evil muslim obama, nothing can possibly be worse than where we are - heck, even Dick Nixon didn't leave office with Bush's incredible range of ignominy and folly. Didn't mean to plagiarize too much mark, but you hit it on the head this time. :)

Daytrader23 9 years, 11 months ago

Big Prune saysSo Daytrader, how is it that Soros cannot influence the market? People listen, just as people listen to Mr. Buffet. He might be a weirdo nutcase too, but they are both good at what they do and leaders in their field and their actions speak louder than words.I noticed Soros bought stock in an auto parts store - they are booming! He did it late last year. Great timing.I say,Buffet and Soros influence more of the average Joe six pack with an E-Trade account more than they influence the actual market. For example, Buffet went in and bought AA rated bonds which were in danger of losing their rating. The bonds rallied for two days from the Buffet followers and then fell again after the third day due to fundamental reasons, I.E bad economy. Soros went in and bought U.S dollar thinking it would gain strength which it did for one or two days. Soros lost over a billion on that trade. As far as his auto store stock, good for him, he found a winner and timing is everything in the stock market, trust me. I've made and lost money only because of timing. NowAs far as oil prices, not one trader I know is happy with the way oil keeps climbing. Oil goes up, stocks go down. I hate to inform you but there are no speculators or traders happy about this as every one of us has diversified investments and those are being affected by the surge in oil. This surge in oil future prices is purely fundamental. Most of these contracts are for two to three years from now. The current rate of growth in Asia including India is 20% per year. (this number may fall a bit) The world demand is 85 million barrels per day. The whole world only produces 87 million barrels per day. Now add in the fact that the two largest populations are growing at 20% per year and it's not hard to see why people or "speculators" see an oil shortage coming in the next few years. And it's not about drilling, it's about refining. The last refinery was built 27 years ago. In order to meet this new demand they have to build more refineries, but yet none are on the drawing board. In fact the Saudi's just built a new natural gas refinery and there is a company making tankers that can transport LNG. (Liquefied Natural Gas) The times are a changing, you either adapt or get left in the dust. It's time we conserve, use renewable energy sources, and find alternative fuels for transportation. Electric and Hydro cars will dominate the production lines in the next few years. Gas powered cars are a thing of the past. So get used to High oil prices because they are not coming down no matter who is president.P.S The one and only man who really can influence the market is Alan Greenspan. And he wrote about all of this last year, one month before the sh*t hit the fan. When Alan talks, the market listens.

BigPrune 9 years, 11 months ago

duplenty, Soros made $2.9 BILLION in the futures market (futures set the price of oil - this is why increased production doesn't matter to bring the price down), he has stock in "green" companies (safe to assume "green" companies increase in value in times like this), he is a currency trader, he screwed with the economies of: France (convicted abstentia); Russia; Great Britain; and safe to assume now it's the United States. He came out of retirement last year. He started and is financing move on . org and he is a contributor to Obama's campaign.Tell me why the American people should not suspect Soros is the man behind the high gasoline prices? Please, I am all ears.

Daytrader23 9 years, 11 months ago

BigPrune (Anonymous) says:Tell me why the American people should not suspect Soros is the man behind the high gasoline prices? Please, I am all ears.I say,Because one man cannot influence an entire market. Dumb a$$. He would have to use every penny he owns then leverage it 1 to 400 and then, he might influence the market for one hour, at the risk of losing everything. BigPrune I hate to say this but you need to study economics and market theory because you don't have a clue about either. Just today over 4 trillion dollars were traded on the currency market alone and NY has yet to open. Last time I checked the total net worth of Soros is only 8.5 billion which is peanuts compared to the daily volume of the world markets. If you think 8.5 billion can influence a market, you have a lot to learn. Not even Buffet can influence the market for more than a day or two.

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