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Senate Republicans advance anti-war bill

February 27, 2008

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— In an about-face, Senate Republicans on Tuesday agreed with Democrats to advance an anti-war bill because they said the debate would give them time to hail progress in Iraq.

The change of heart came after months of blocking similar measures. But unlike most of last year, security conditions in Iraq have improved, and Republicans say they now feel they have the upper hand on the debate.

"We welcome a discussion about Iraq," Senate Republican leader Mitch McConnell declared.

The measure, by Democratic Sens. Russ Feingold of Wisconsin and Majority Leader Harry Reid of Nevada, would cut off money for combat after 120 days. It had been expected to fall short of the 60 votes needed to overcome a procedural hurdle and move ahead.

But after Republicans agreed in a private meeting that the debate could help make their case, the Senate voted 70-24 to begin debating it in earnest.

Aides said a final vote could come later this week, but may be pushed into next week.

The White House said the president would veto such a measure.

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pisafromthewest 6 years, 1 month ago

beobachter (Anonymous) says:

"once we have a decent president and get out of Iraq, the whole area and all the oil prices will settle down."

On which planet?

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posessionannex 6 years, 1 month ago

Notice Merrills alternatives:

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Catch that?

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Richard Heckler 6 years, 1 month ago

I believe the irresponsible republicans want to distract taxpayers from some of the more pressing issues: More Criminal Activity at the South Border revealed today: http://www.democracynow.org/2008/2/27/holes_in_the_wall_texas_border

Reckless republicans are trying to look good after they blown the economy with their $3 Trillion war for oil and are bringing us $4.00 per gallon gasoline: http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/02/27/national/main3881968.shtml?source=mostpop_story http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/comment/columnists/guest_contributors/article3419840.ece http://www.alternet.org/waroniraq/43045/ http://www.commondreams.org/views07/0222-21.htm http://www.democracynow.org/2004/4/20/did_bush_cut_secret_oil_deal

When our politicians talk about 140,000 troops that is not exactly pulling out. Not only that they always forget to remind us of the thousands of special forces, thousands of hired mercenaries such as Blackwater Inc and then the best of all our boys from the CIA probably a few thousand as well.

The four military bases to staff and pay for. Oh how can we forget about the 600 room luxury billion dollar American Embassy in the Green Zone. The embassy will need so many things such as life guards for the pool, weight room staff and all the wonderful choices for eating out. The Green Zone may well be the PNAC Luxury Resort. http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article1665.htm

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posessionannex 6 years, 1 month ago

I will leave you all with this, a poll that disproves the notion that Islam is a religion of terror (like we needed confirmation) but rather a religion of peace:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20080227/ts_alt_afp/usislamreligionethics

What's 7% of a billion?

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posessionannex 6 years, 1 month ago

...thereby proving their worth to the world, and everybody will love us.

Yay!

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posessionannex 6 years, 1 month ago

But the country remains a humanitarian nightmare, with nearly 20% of the prewar population either dead or displaced from their homes. There is no functioning government or economy, and no real prospects for improvement, particularly as long as BushCo remains in power.

The country remains a humanitarian nightmare... that some people would love to turn their back on.

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posessionannex 6 years, 1 month ago

What, of any lasting value or merit, has the troop escalation accomplished?

They'll probably show these charts (not that they have merit):

http://newsbusters.org/blogs/noel-sheppard/2008/02/26/surge-success-charts-media-wont-dare-show-you

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just_another_bozo_on_this_bus 6 years, 1 month ago

"What, of any lasting value or merit, has the troop escalation accomplished?"

The surge accomplished very little, actually. The "improvement" the BushCo sycophants like to point to is a result of the completion of the ethnic cleansing that was set in motion by the the invasion, the ceasefire by the largest Shiite militia (because it allows them to consolidate their own power) and the bribing by the Americans of thousands of the former Sunni insurgents. But the country remains a humanitarian nightmare, with nearly 20% of the prewar population either dead or displaced from their homes. There is no functioning government or economy, and no real prospects for improvement, particularly as long as BushCo remains in power.

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scott3460 6 years, 1 month ago

"In an about-face, Senate Republicans on Tuesday agreed with Democrats to advance an anti-war bill because they said the debate would give them time to hail progress in Iraq."

That will certainly be an interesting debate. Wonder what they will point to? What, of any lasting value or merit, has the troop escalation accomplished? A reduction in the rate of death and maiming of American soldiers? Seriously, just what is it they plan to hail?

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just_another_bozo_on_this_bus 6 years, 1 month ago

Maybe if you should have spent more time watching Mr. Rogers and less time experimenting on the neighborhood cats, PA.

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posessionannex 6 years, 1 month ago

"once we have a decent president and get out of Iraq, the whole area and all the oil prices will settle down."

And you know this because...? Let me guess, something Mr. Rogers taught you. I don't think they have Mr. Rogers in Iraq.

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just_another_bozo_on_this_bus 6 years, 1 month ago

" In an about-face, Senate Republicans on Tuesday agreed with Democrats to advance an anti-war bill because they said the debate would give them time to hail progress in Iraq."

After spending five years completely destroying Iraq, anything the Republicans might point to can be described as "progress." But I guess that does give them a break from their relentless fear- and warmongering.

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max1 6 years, 1 month ago

February 27, 2008 http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/iraq_politics;_ylt=AnBmr4nBFtldpWW1Jzvrob5X6GMA Iraq's presidential council rejected a measure Wednesday setting up provincial elections, sending it back to parliament in the latest setback to U.S.-backed national reconciliation efforts.

February 14, 2008 http://www.iht.com/articles/2008/02/14/africa/14iraq.php BAGHDAD: Iraq's parliamentary leaders on Wednesday pushed through three far-reaching measures that had been delayed for weeks by bitter political maneuvering that became so acrimonious that some lawmakers threatened to try to dissolve the legislative body. The three measures are the 2008 budget; a law outlining the scope of provincial powers, a crucial aspect of Iraq's self-definition as a federal state; and an amnesty that would apply to thousands of the detainees held in Iraqi jails. An amnesty law was one of the so-called benchmark measures that the Bush administration had built the 2007 troop increase around, hoping to create better security to allow such legislative breakthroughs. The vast majority of the 26,000 prisoners being held in Iraqi jails are Sunni Arabs, some of whom have been held without charges for months.

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beobachter 6 years, 1 month ago

once we have a decent president and get out of Iraq, the whole area and all the oil prices will settle down. the sooner the "decider" is gone, the sooner we can start improving our relationship with the rest of the world.

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posessionannex 6 years, 1 month ago

If we leave the middle east, the price of oil will go down?

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Richard Heckler 6 years, 1 month ago

Reckless republicans are trying to look good after they blown the economy with their $3 Trillion war for oil and are bringing us $4.00 per gallon gasoline: http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/02/27/national/main3881968.shtml?source=mostpop_story

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madmike 6 years, 1 month ago

As soon as the Republicans agreed to Harry Reid's proposal, the little toad had a fit!

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