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McCain can start pondering VP choices

February 25, 2008

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— "Do you think he'd do it?" That was the first question Ronald Reagan asked when, 24 days before the 1976 Republican convention, his campaign manager suggested that Reagan immediately name Pennsylvania's Sen. Richard Schweiker as his running mate. Reagan was narrowly behind in the delegate count as he attempted to wrest the nomination from President Gerald Ford. Three days later Schweiker joined the ticket.

This was designed to pry loose some Ford delegates, particularly among the 103 of Pennsylvania's delegation (Schweiker was one of them), and prevent Ford from clinching the nomination before the Kansas City convention.

A callow young columnist without a lick of sense (George F. Will) criticized the tactic as "slapstick," but it worked: Walter Cronkite pulled back what would have been that night's CBS lead story saying Ford's nomination was assured, and the battle raged until the convention.

Today, Hillary Clinton in extremis could contemplate a similar maneuver: Pennsylvania's April 22 primary may be climactic and Gov. Ed Rendell is available. But so far only John McCain is certain to need a running mate, and his choices are limited by his needs and his nature.

McCain needs someone who will help him win and be a plausible president during the next four years. He has been in Washington more years than Clinton and Barack Obama combined, and today, as usual, but even more so, Washington is considered iniquitous, partly because McCain, our national scold, incessantly tells the country that its capital is awash in "corruption."

It would be reassuring were he to select a running mate with executive experience administering something larger than a senator's office. So an otherwise well-qualified senator, such as Kay Bailey Hutchison, might not be suitable.

Besides, McCain, who will be 72 on Inauguration Day, might need someone younger. Which would prevent the selection of Colin Powell, 70. Also, a McCain-Powell ticket would slight domestic issues, with which Powell has never been professionally engaged and McCain has rarely been preoccupied.

In politics, gratitude is optional but admirable, and McCain is indebted to Florida Gov. Charlie Crist, 51, who endorsed McCain on the eve of his state's primary. Because the disastrous recent performance of Ohio's Republican Party will make it difficult for McCain to hold that state's 20 electoral votes that Bush won, McCain must keep Florida's 27. Crist won the 2006 Republican gubernatorial primary 64-33 even though, as Michael Barone writes in his Almanac of American Politics, that election was notably unpleasant: "Here a candidate was attacked for being both gay and for fathering a child out of wedlock."

Crist remains popular, but not more so than his predecessor, Jeb Bush, 55. Bush, however, seems determined to take a sabbatical from politics. And it might seem tribal to have a Bush on the national ballot for a seventh time in eight elections.

Three two-term governors might help McCain, including Mississippi's Haley Barbour, 60. He has two things McCain lacks - impeccable conservative credentials and a genial disposition. He was conspicuously competent in Katrina's aftermath. As a political director in the Reagan White House, and as national party chairman, 1993-1997, when Republicans ended 40 years of Democratic control of the House of Representatives, Barbour demonstrated political subtlety and an agreeable absence of righteousness, qualities McCain as president would need close at hand. Unfortunately, Barbour also was a lobbyist for a while, and the right to "petition the government for a redress of grievances" is another part of the First Amendment that the co-author of McCain-Feingold finds unimpressive.

South Carolina's Gov. Mark Sanford, 47, is more of a maverick than McCain, and Sanford faults his state party for being insufficiently conservative. His frugality has had him at daggers drawn with the state Legislature, which Republicans control. His populism is an acquired taste - he should not have lugged those two live pigs into the Legislature to express his disapproval of pork - but he favors expanding school choice, eliminating the state income tax and, at the national level, reforming entitlement.

Finally, Minnesota's Tim Pawlenty, 47, is national co-chairman of McCain's campaign. His is the only state (10 electoral votes) to go Democratic in the last eight presidential elections. The candidate who wins a majority of the electoral votes in the Mississippi Valley usually wins the White House. Pawlenty is a center-right politician in a center-right country, and the Minnesota Twins will open a new ballpark in 2010 because he helped to provide public funds, a practice that red-blooded Americans deplore in principle but enjoy in practice.

- George Will is a columnist for Washington Post Writers Group.

Comments

pisafromthewest 6 years, 1 month ago

"How many aircraft were hijacked and used in a suicide mission by terrorists during the Clinton administration? Answer: None"

No, they just planned for it and trained for it, right here under Bill's nose. Shame it took so long for the training, he might have gotten to reap the rewards of his incompetency, and added a third terrorist attack to his collection.

All this, and you still haven't answered the simple question, maxh@le: What did Clinton do, in the years that he had warnings about the plot that was unfolding right under his nose, to stop it? You're going to try to say that it didn't actually happen until after he left office because of something he did? Not surprising ... that would make you as big a liar as you are a fool.

"Who, despite repeated warnings that an aircraft could be hijacked and used as a weapon, wanted to scrap what little air defense we had in place?"

You already answered your own question there, max1:

"Summer 2001: Pentagon plans reducing domestic air defenses still further During this period, apparently, there are only 14 fighter planes on active alert to defend the continental US (and six more defending Canada and Alaska). However, in the months before 9/11, rather than increase the number, the Pentagon was planning to reduce the number still further."

In other words, while they were considering reducing the number of available fighters further, they hadn't yet, and the lack of coverage was exactly the level set in place by the Clinton administration. Those are your facts, max1, and we thank you for pointing out just how much we have old Billy boy to thank for 9/11.

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max1 6 years, 1 month ago

"What did Clinton do, knowing what he knew, to prevent the attacks by airliners against the United States, max?" -DroolingMoron

How many aircraft were hijacked and used in a suicide mission by terrorists during the Clinton administration? Answer: None Who, despite repeated warnings that an aircraft could be hijacked and used as a weapon, refused to believe it was a possibility? Answer: Bush's stumblebums Who, despite repeated warnings that an aircraft could be hijacked and used as a weapon, wanted to scrap what little air defense we had in place? Answer: Bush's stumblebums

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pisafromthewest 6 years, 1 month ago

And yet more max1 cut-and-paste ramblings, that gee, still didn't answer the question.

What did Clinton do, knowing what he knew, to prevent the attacks by airliners against the United States, max? While they were training right here on U.S. soil? It's a simple question that even someone as simple as you should be able to understand, even though you can't answer it.

Okay, what the heck, I'll just have to give you the answer since you've had a few tries already. The reason why all your web sources can't answer the question for you is that Clinton did nothing, max. But that's okay, since he's a Democrat, right?

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max1 6 years, 1 month ago

Well, maxh@le, let's see: http://www.cooperativeresearch.org/context.jsp?item=asummer01binladenspeech Early 2001: Word begins to spread within al-Qaeda that an attack against the US is imminent. . . In a recorded speech at the al Faruq training camp in Afghanistan, bin Laden specifically urges trainees to pray for the success of an upcoming attack involving 20 martyrs. The Daily Telegraph later reports that "the idea of an attack on a skyscraper [is] discussed among [bin Laden's] supporters in Kabul." http://www.9-11commission.gov/hearings/hearing1/witness_kleinberg.htm Prior to 9/11, FAA and Department of Defense Manuals gave clear, comprehensive instructions on how to handle everything from minor emergencies to full blown hijackings. http://www.nytimes.com/2005/02/10/politics/10terror.html?pagewanted=print&position= the report says that leaders of the F.A.A. received 52 intelligence reports from their security branch that mentioned Mr. bin Laden or Al Qaeda from April to Sept. 10, 2001. That represented half of all the intelligence summaries in that time. . . The F.A.A. "had indeed considered the possibility that terrorists would hijack a plane and use it as a weapon," and in 2001 it distributed a CD-ROM presentation to airlines and airports that cited the possibility of a suicide hijacking, the report said. http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,116517,00.html "It did not raise the possibility that terrorist might use airplanes as missiles," Rice said. http://www.cooperativeresearch.org/entity.jsp?entity=us_department_of_defense Summer 2001: Pentagon plans reducing domestic air defenses still further During this period, apparently, there are only 14 fighter planes on active alert to defend the continental US (and six more defending Canada and Alaska). However, in the months before 9/11, rather than increase the number, the Pentagon was planning to reduce the number still further. . . . In fact, there will be high level military discussions as late as September 8, 2001, where the option of eliminating the bases altogether is considered. As late as 1998, there were 175 fighters on alert status. September 8, 2001: Discussions at the Air Force's highest levels call for the dismantling of NORAD's seven "alert" sites around the US and its command and control structure. Earlier in the summer of 2001, "a reduction in air defenses had been gaining currency in recent months among task forces assigned by [Defense Secretary] Rumsfeld to put together recommendations for a reassessment of the military."

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sdinges 6 years, 1 month ago

I think you missed my point, Max1 - It doesn't matter what McCain's VP candidate -actually- stands for, or whether they are -actually- competent and substantial, or if they complement him.

All that matters is surface appearance. Youngish, black and female trumps all the Democrats' cards. Most voters are shallow. Don't give them too much credit.

If voters acted on something more than surface appearance, then Obama wouldn't be angry about that picture of him in African garb.

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pisafromthewest 6 years, 1 month ago

Well, maxh@le, let's see:

1) You post a list of 6 instances where the Clinton administration had some warning that there may be a terrorist attack using airplanes, possibly against New York and Washington.

2) I refer specifically to that list and ask you what Billy-boy did to prevent that particular attack from happening.

3) You say he caught a terrorist who was not involved in the air attacks coming across the border with explosives in an unrelated plan to attack Los Angeles.

Well, it was from the same website, so it must have been somehow related. Good call.

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max1 6 years, 1 month ago

"Nice cherry picking (not to mention subject changing) : my comment you're replying to dealt specifically with the list in your 11:44 post, which all had to do with the terrorist attack by airplane on New York and Washington" -pissfromthewest

Hey piss, my 7:40 post came from the same timeline and website that I had cited earlier at 11:44, so why don't you quit whining about me changing the subject and just read that entire timeline about the warnings we had preceding 9/11 and learn something? http://www.complete911timeline.org/timeline.jsp?timeline=complete_911_timeline&before_9/11=warnings

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lori 6 years, 1 month ago

McCain/Powell McCain/Rice or McCain/Elizabeth Dole

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pisafromthewest 6 years, 1 month ago

max1 (Anonymous) says:

"Yep, Clinton caught the terrorist before he could do damage."

Newsflash for max1:

The terrorist had friends.

Nice cherry picking (not to mention subject changing) ... my comment you're replying to dealt specifically with the list in your 11:44 post, which all had to do with the terrorist attack by airplane on New York and Washington, which you so ably pointed out Mr. Clinton had plenty of warning about, and did nothing to stop those guys who were, at the time, taking flying lessons right here in the U.S..

But I guess if you just want to count people driving around with large quantities of explosives, Bill did catch one ... out of three. I suppose your link library is missing details on the first WTC bombing, not to mention Oklahoma City.

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The_Original_Bob 6 years, 1 month ago

"McCain & It Doesn't Matter.

No matter who McCain picks, Obama is going to be the next President of the United States. Republicans might as well just start planning now for 2012." Bea

Bea is right. Hillary is getting very deep in the Clinton Machine playbook and all she can find at this crucial time in her campaign is to pull out a picture of Barry in traditional garb? Weak. She's finished. McCain will keep the ultra-conservatives home on the first Tuesday in November and Obama will have a massive turnout in his favor from all liberals, Oprah housewives, young voters, and minorities. This might not be Clinton/Dole landslide numbers, but it will be big.

Obama did the absolute correct thing in shaking the skeletons out early when there were about 35 candidates. No one really paid attention. There'll be no, "Obama Snorted Cocaine" headlines in the slow July newscycle. Whether one likes him or not, you got to admit he has run a fantastic campaign.

My only hope for someone to vote for lies in Lee Mercer, Jr.'s potential switch to Independent from Democrat.

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max1 6 years, 1 month ago

"Don't suppose you have links to what (in)action good ol' Bill took since he knew about it?" -pisafromthewest

Yep, Clinton caught the terrorist before he could do damage.

http://www.complete911timeline.org/timeline.jsp?timeline=complete_911_timeline&before_9/11=warnings December 14, 1999 Al-Qaeda terrorist Ahmed Ressam is arrested in Port Angeles, Washington, attempting to enter the US with components of explosive devices. 130 pounds of bomb-making chemicals and detonator components are found inside his rental car. He subsequently admits he planned to bomb Los Angeles International Airport on December 31, 1999. [New York Times, 12/30/01]

http://www.9-11commission.gov/report/911Report_Ch1.htm At 8:55, before entering the classroom, the President spoke to National Security Advisor Condoleezza Rice, who was at the White House. She recalled first telling the President it was a twin-engine aircraft - and then a commercial aircraft that had struck the World Trade Center, adding "that's all we know right now, Mr. President." http://www.cooperativeresearch.org/context.jsp?item=a900riceinforms She reportedly speaks to President Bush around 9:00 a.m. on the telephone, and tells him that a twin-engine plane has struck the WTC tower. She says, "That's all we know right now, Mr. President." [Newsweek, 12/31/2001] Despite her title of National Security Adviser, she is apparently unaware that NORAD has scrambled planes after learning of two hijackings in progress at least 15 minutes ago. She goes ahead with her usual national security staff meeting.

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pisafromthewest 6 years, 1 month ago

beatrice (Anonymous) says:

"No matter who McCain picks, Obama is going to be the next President of the United States."

Um, aren't you the same beatripe who made this comment:

http://www2.ljworld.com/news/2007/nov/20/presidential_race_reveals_lingering_sexism/#c466085

I thought Hillary is the one who couldn't lose, bea?

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Windlass 6 years, 1 month ago

FEMA CONCENTRATION CAMPS

KANSAS Leavenworth - US Marshal's Fed Holding Facility, US Penitentiary, Federal Prison Camp, McConnell Air Force Base. Federal death penalty facility. Concordia - WWII German POW camp used to exist at this location but there is no facility there at this time. Ft. Riley - Just north of Interstate 70, airport, near city of Manhattan. El Dorado - Federal prison converted into forced-labor camp, UNICOR industries. Topeka - 80 acres has been converted into a temporary holding camp.

http://www.sianews.com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=1062

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beatrice 6 years, 1 month ago

McCain & It Doesn't Matter.

No matter who McCain picks, Obama is going to be the next President of the United States. Republicans might as well just start planning now for 2012.

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cool 6 years, 1 month ago

McCain & Katharine Harris ?

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cool 6 years, 1 month ago

McCain & Zbigniew Brezezinski ?

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cool 6 years, 1 month ago

McCain and (exhumed remains of) Ron Reagan ?

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Dont_Feed_The_Bears 6 years, 1 month ago

Potawatomi, you really need some help. Have you tried Burt and Nash?

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pisafromthewest 6 years, 1 month ago

max1 (Anonymous) says:

"Autumn 1998: US intelligence hears of a bin Laden plot involving aircraft in the New York and Washington areas..."

Nice list.

All during the administration of president Bush's predecessor.

Don't suppose you have links to what (in)action good ol' Bill took since he knew about it?

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pisafromthewest 6 years, 1 month ago

max1 (Anonymous) says:

"http://thinkprogress.org/2008/02/01/mcca: 'By golly' we're 'winning' in Iraq. -John McCain http://thinkprogress.org/2006/12/17/powe: "we're not winning. We are losing." -Colin Powell"

Didja' happen to notice that there's over a year's difference between the time Colin Powell said we were losing and McCain said we were winning?


Windlass (Anonymous) says:

"That's an excellent list! I love it. Here's a few more "truths" -"

Refer back to my list of how to be a Democrat. You've outdone yourself.

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max1 6 years, 1 month ago

"Condi Rice on line 1" -sdinges

April 09, 2004 http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,116517,00.html "It did not raise the possibility that terrorist might use airplanes as missiles," Rice said. http://www.complete911timeline.org/timeline.jsp?timeline=complete_911_timeline&before_9/11=warnings January 20, 1997: Bill Clinton is re-inaugurated as President. An extensive set of security measures to prevent airplanes as weapons crashing into the inauguration is used. These measures, first used in the 1996 Atlanta Olympics and thus referred to as the Atlanta Rules Autumn 1998: US intelligence hears of a bin Laden plot involving aircraft in the New York and Washington areas. [Senate Intelligence Committee 9/18/02; New York Times 9/18/02] December 21, 1998: it is reported intelligence sources have evidence that bin Laden may be planning his boldest move yet-a strike on Washington or possibly New York City [Time 12/21/98] 1999: MI6, the British intelligence agency . . . states that al-Qaeda has plans to use commercial aircraft in unconventional ways, possibly as flying bombs. [Sunday Times 6/9/02] April 2000: US intelligence learns about an alleged bin Laden plot to hijack a 747. The source is a walk-in to the FBI's Newark office who claims that he had been to a training camp in Pakistan where he learned hijacking techniques and received arms training. September 15-October 1, 2000: Olympics officials later reveal that A fully loaded, fueled airliner crashing into the opening ceremony before a worldwide television audience at the Sydney Olympics was one of the greatest security fears for the Games. [Sydney Morning Herald, 9/20/01] January 3, 2001: Clarke presents his plan to roll back al-Qaeda that he'd given to the outgoing Clinton administration a couple of weeks earlier (see December 20, 2000). [Time 8/4/02] He gets the impression that Rice has never heard the term al-Qaeda before. Rice's response to Clarke's proposal is that the Cabinet won't address the issue until it has been framed at the deputy secretary level. [Guardian 3/25/04] June 2001: German intelligence warns the CIA, Britain's MI6, and Israel's Mossad that Middle Eastern terrorists are planning to hijack commercial aircraft to use as weapons to attack American and Israeli symbols, which stand out. A later article quotes unnamed German intelligence sources who state the information was coming from Echelon surveillance technology [Frankfurter Allgemeine Zeitung, 9/11/01, Washington Post, 9/14/01, Fox News, 5/17/02] [FTW]

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Windlass 6 years, 1 month ago

  1. When you believe it is morally right to feed the dead but morally wrong to feed the living.
  2. When you don't believe in abortion but you do believe in the death penalty.
  3. When you wield your power to legislate hatred, then turn around and approve billions of dollars to try and stop hatred.
  4. If you cry foul when any one governs the country according to its Constitution and its laws.
  5. If the best way to fight terror is to attack the country that pissed off your dad.
  6. If you believe a Supreme Court ain't nothin' like a STACKED Supreme Court.
  7. If you decide al-Qaeda carried out 9/11 and al-Qaeda is everybody, just kill everybody.
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Windlass 6 years, 1 month ago

  1. If you believe ethics violations are good qualities in a political figure.
  2. When your sheer stupidity in domestic policy has forced our best scientists to leave the country.
  3. If you believe the only wars in which America should become involved are those in which democracies can be toppled and oil can be siphoned.
  4. If you're 100% certain no one is in the building when you set off your bomb.
  5. If you can shrug off a warrant that has been issued for your arrest.
  6. If you believe the special interests of the NRA must take priority over the protection of the American people.
  7. If you believe George Walker Bush is right to ignore the Constitution and divert public money to fund private, Christian schools.
  8. When you believe public school funding means SEND NO MONEY NOW.
  9. If you supported tax cuts for the wealthy few that destroyed a surplus in less than a year and began the destruction of our economy.
  10. If you knew but didn't care that the civil liberties records of John Ashcroft and Donald Rumsfeld are WORSE than that of the late Alexander Mitchell Palmer's record on civil liberties.
  11. If you supported George Walker Bush's refusal to join international efforts to: a.) protect the environment b.) promote human rights c.) restrict bacteriological and chemical warfare d.) stop illegal arms sales and e.) limit the deployment of new ballistic missiles
  12. all in Bush's first year.
  13. If you believe a *Confederate flag campaign button Bush used in 2000 to signal to southern supporters wasn't racist.
  14. The signal meant that he, Bush, did not intend to help racial minorities.
  15. If you are paranoid that trial lawyers are waiting for you in a court of law.
  16. If perjury and obstruction of justice become impeachable offenses when fruit-loopy Republicans find out about a man and a woman alone together.
  17. If you believe the crappiest president in United States history is God's greatest gift to man.
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Windlass 6 years, 1 month ago

Potawatomi

That's an excellent list! I love it. Here's a few more "truths" -

YOU are a REPUBLICAN:

  1. If you believe in creating conditions that turn a nation into a terrorist state.
  2. When you push the American worker back into the days of long hours, low pay, dangerous working conditions, and frequent unemployment.
  3. If democracy makes you angry.
  4. If you are above the law.
  5. When you fleece America via corporate/big business welfare.
  6. If you believe Congress should do the work of a deranged demagogue, and not the work of the people.
  7. If you march to the political ideology of Adolph Hitler's white supremacy.
  8. If you believe "stealing public office" means the same thing as "elected by the people."
  9. If you believe the Preamble means, "Me. I'm the people," not "We the People."
  10. If you support countries that torture and maim innocent people.
  11. When you don't fight in wars, don't pay taxes, don't uphold the United States Constitution, and don't stand for freedom.
  12. If you don't know the difference between a biped and a quadruped when firing your gun.
  13. When you confuse Lennon for Lenin.
  14. As long as the murder you commit is done only "in the name of God."
  15. If you believe any change in the weather is a prophetic sign from George Walker Bush.
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sdinges 6 years, 1 month ago

Someone with a strong economic background would be a nice complement, but the truth is - the way people are making such a big deal about change (read: someone non-white or non-male or non-old). McCain would be better off just picking a black woman who appears youthful. Condi Rice on line 1?

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max1 6 years, 1 month ago

Jekyll/Hyde in '08 McCain/Powell in '08

http://thinkprogress.org/2008/02/01/mccain-by-golly-were-winning-in-iraq/ 'By golly' we're 'winning' in Iraq. -John McCain http://thinkprogress.org/2006/12/17/powell-iraq-lowing/ "we're not winning. We are losing." -Colin Powell

McCain/DollyPawPaw McCain/PoisonedAnnex

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max1 6 years, 1 month ago

"Powell would be great for veep" -right_thinker

McCain, who will be 72 . . . Colin Powell, 70 McCain/Powell -- the bucket ticket

McCain/Lamm http://www.jpands.org/hacienda/arnett2.html Still another scheme is the "duty to die ethic" which was proposed in 1984 by the governor of Colorado, Richard Lamm. He asserted that "...old people have a duty to die and get out of the way."

"Maybe McCain/Gingrich" -right_thinker McCain/Caligula

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pisafromthewest 6 years, 1 month ago

Potawatomi (Anonymous) says:

"Good point on how the Republicans cheated and deceived the Democrats: What? 935 times or something."

Well, it's official ... you're a Democrat.

You're saying it's some kind of badge of honor that you're all (including most of the Dems who asked us to elect them president the last couple of go arounds) stupid enough to be fooled that many times? By a president that you all say is an idiot?

I don't know what business you're in, Pot, but someone who claims to have been "cheated and deceived" nearly a thousand times by someone they think is a moron really ought to look for a new line of work.

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Potawatomi 6 years, 1 month ago

pisafromthewest (Anonymous) says:

"Whereas there's only one rule for being a good Democrat:

1) You're stupid enough to listen to cr*p like the stuff Potawatomi posted.

But then, the Democrats' claim to innocence over their role in the Iraq war is based on the contention that the administration fooled them : what, 935 times or something? At least they're admitting they're pretty darned gullible."

Potawatomi Wrote: Good point on how the Republicans cheated and deceived the Democrats... What? 935 times or something.

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jonas 6 years, 1 month ago

"Hitler and Stalin, both socialists, hated conservatives, blacks, jews and homosexuals."

Whatever they styled themselves as, Hitler and Stalin were both fascists, and could hardly be considered socialist.

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pisafromthewest 6 years, 1 month ago

Potawatomi (Anonymous) says:

"25 Rules For Being a Good Republican..."

Whereas there's only one rule for being a good Democrat:

1) You're stupid enough to listen to cr*p like the stuff Potawatomi posted.

But then, the Democrats' claim to innocence over their role in the Iraq war is based on the contention that the administration fooled them ... what, 935 times or something? At least they're admitting they're pretty darned gullible.

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1029 6 years, 1 month ago

I have to respectfully disagree with you, Potawatamie. I'm a Republican because I'm white, I hate people, and I like to see as much suffering as possible within society. Plus, I think taxes are stupid.

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Potawatomi 6 years, 1 month ago

Here's the rest:

16) You believe that giving free health care to all Iraqis is sound government policy but giving free health care to Americans is socialism.

17) You believe that tobacco's link to cancer and global warming are "junk science", but Creationism should be taught in schools.

18) You believe that waging war with no exit strategy was wrong in Vietnam but right in Iraq.

19) You believe that Saddam was a good guy when Reagan armed him, a bad guy when Bush's daddy made war on him, a good guy when Cheney was doing business with him, and a bad guy when Bush needed a "we can't find Bin Laden" diversion.

20) You believe that government should restrict itself to just the powers named in the Constitution, which includes banning gay marriages and censoring the internet.

21) You believe that the public has a right to know about the adulterous affairs of Democrats, while those of Republicans are a "private matter".

22) You believe that the public has a right to know about Hillary's cattle trades but that Bush was right to censor 28 pages from the Congressional 9.11 report because you just can't handle the truth.

23) You support state rights, which means Ashcroft telling states what locally passed voter initiatives he will allow them to have.

24) You believe that what Clinton did in the 1960's is of vital national interest but what Bush did in the 80s is "stale news" and "irrelevant".

25) You believe that trade with Cuba is wrong because it is communist, but trading with China and Vietnam is good for business.

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Potawatomi 6 years, 1 month ago

25 Rules For Being a Good Republican

1) You believe that drug addiction is a moral failing and a crime, unless the addict is a millionaire conservative radio jock which then makes it an "illness" and he needs our prayers for his "recovery".

2) You believe that those privileged from birth achieve success all on their own.

3) You believe that the US should get out of the UN, and that our highest national priority is to enforce the UN's resolutions against Iraq.

4) You believe that government should stay out of people's lives but it needs to punish anyone caught having private sex with the "wrong" gender.

5) You believe that pollution is okay, so long as it makes a profit.

6) You believe in prayer in schools, as long as they don't pray to Allah or Buddha.

7) "Standing Tall for America" means firing your workers and moving their jobs to India.

8) You believe that a woman cannot be trusted with decisions about her own body, but that large multi-national corporations can make decisions affecting all mankind with no regulation whatsoever.

9) You believe that you love Jesus and Jesus loves you, and that Jesus shares your hatred of homosexuals and Hillary.

10) You hate the ALCU for representing convicted felons, but they owed it to the country to bail out Oliver North.

11) You believe that the best way to encourage military morale is to praise the troops overseas while cutting their VA benefits.

12) You believe that group sex and drug use are degenerate sins that can only be purged by running for governor of California as a Republican.

13) You believe it is wise to keep condoms out of schools, because we all know if teenagers don't have condoms they won't have sex.

14) You believe that the best way to fight terrorism is to alienate our allies and then demand their cooperation and money.

15) You believe that government medicine is wrong and that HMOs and insurance companies have your best interests at heart.

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pisafromthewest 6 years, 1 month ago

ralphralph (Anonymous) says:

"PS - Old senators really don't get elected. Look at the past elections : Old Senators Don't Win. This year, an Old Republican Pro-War Senator won't win. McCain might as well go fishing instead of campaigning."

Pretty amusing coming from someone whose name even sounds like the're 8 years old. Hey, ralphralph, when Mommy and Daddy are giving you your allowance this week, ask them if 72 is too old.

Oh, and by the way ... in your list of former losers and winners, or at any time before that, for that matter, has a black man or a woman ever won? (You do know that both of them are Senators, and despite what Hillary thinks neither has been VP?) One way or the other, ralphralph, we're going to have something out of the ordinary this election, be it a person of color, a woman, or someone "old." And any way it comes out, it'll be a Senator.

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Groanmaggot 6 years, 1 month ago

Place a permament ban on the republican party.

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ibroke 6 years, 1 month ago

McCain/huckabee sounds great

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ralphralph 6 years, 1 month ago

PS - Old senators really don't get elected. Look at the past elections ... in reverse order we have elected presidents whose previous lives were as: Governor Bush, Governor Clinton, VP/Spy Bush, Governor Reagan, Governor Carter, VP/Senator Dick, VP/Senator/Henchman LBJ, WarHero/Senator/NormaJeanBakerNailer JFK, WarHero Ike, etc.

The losers, in the same reverse order: Senator Kerry, VP/Senator Gore, Senator Dole, Read-My-Lips-Sayer Bush, TankDriver/Governor Doo-ka-ka, VP/Senator Mondale, PeanutFarmer Jimmy, SortOfIncumbant/VP/Senator/Golfer Ford, Senator McGovern, Senator Humphrey, Senator Goldwater, VP/Senator Dick, etc.

Old Senators Don't Win. This year, an Old Republican Pro-War Senator won't win. McCain might as well go fishing instead of campaigning.

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ralphralph 6 years, 1 month ago

The GOP pissed away their best prospect - Powell - by sending him to the U.N. to present the made up intel on Iraq. There's no way he ever comes back from that.

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notajayhawk 6 years, 1 month ago

ralphralph (Anonymous) says:

"Old senators don't get elected to the Presidency."

If someone said they wouldn't vote for Obama because he's black, that would be racism. Or Hillary because she's a woman, that would be sexism. But it's okay to dismiss a candidate on the basis of his age?

Even if he served two full terms, McCain wouldn't even be an octogenarian until a few months before the election to choose his successor. People are living longer, working and staying active longer, and the population as a whole is aging. More and more people worry about Social Security and Medicare and whether they'll be able to afford their retirement. It's just possible they'd like a president who understands their concerns a little better than a kid in his forties.

And by the way, ralphralph - a lot of us "old" people vote.

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Tom Shewmon 6 years, 1 month ago

Powell would be great for veep----thing is he wants no part of the cesspool we call Washington DC last I heard.

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Flap Doodle 6 years, 1 month ago

"Old senators don't get elected to the Presidency." Such as John Kerry?

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ralphralph 6 years, 1 month ago

McC better do something stunning with his choice, or he can start planning his move to assisted living.
Old senators don't get elected to the Presidency. The GOP is slow to learn this ... in fact, I don't think they'll ever learn it.
McCain - Dole in '08!

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monkeyspunk 6 years, 1 month ago

Powell on the ticket as VP...please don't tease me so...

That would be a dream. And hey, it would make Michelle Obama proud to be an American again.

Colin Powell is the man, though I doubt he would accept the invite to be VP nominee. =(

Who doesn't love a guy who refers to NeoCons as "f%$kin' crazies"?

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Flap Doodle 6 years, 1 month ago

"We still need to open up a full dialogue-one that has no end and debate what is and what is not in order to be able to not necessarily reach a conclusion about anything, but provide all individuals with all information that they may or may not ever do anything with, yet feel as though they are informed of all the pertinent facts as they relate to the issue and thus continue to debate said issue. Does that make any sense to anyone?"

Do you mean besides being a shining example of circumlocution?

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posessionannex 6 years, 1 month ago

I want you to close your eyes, and picture a sign that says "I support forced sterilization of Islamic Fundamentalists." Imagine the hatred such a thing would prove, in your mind. Now look at this picture:

http://www.zombietime.com/berkeley_marines_2-12-2008/IMG_1313.JPG

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posessionannex 6 years, 1 month ago

his attitude and hatred only matches the Right.

Where have you been the last 7 1/2 years?

You need to spend a little time at http://www.zombietime.com/

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Flap Doodle 6 years, 1 month ago

The Dwead Piwate Wove needs a new gig.

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Dont_Feed_The_Bears 6 years, 1 month ago

How about that sheriff in Arizona? The one that makes inmates wear pink boxers. With him... many things would get fixed.

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EggNogSchtick 6 years, 1 month ago

I think alot of discussion is still needed about John McCains' running mate. We still need to open up a full dialogue-one that has no end and debate what is and what is not in order to be able to not necessarily reach a conclusion about anything, but provide all individuals with all information that they may or may not ever do anything with, yet feel as though they are informed of all the pertinent facts as they relate to the issue and thus continue to debate said issue.

Does that make any sense to anyone?

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Mr_Values 6 years, 1 month ago

Confrontation (Anonymous) says:

It doesn't matter which ticket Phelps ran on, his attitude and hatred only matches the Right.

Hitler and Stalin, both socialists, hated conservatives, blacks, jews and homosexuals.

Phelps is a "progressive".

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Windlass 6 years, 1 month ago

Keyes would be good:.except the black establishment and the mainstream Dummiecrats would launch a jihad on the McCain/Keyes ticket.

Maybe McCain/Gingrich.


Doesn'tThink...

Why don't you tell all that to the Marines? They might buy it. While you're at it, comments that are factual/truthful would be nice. Only suggesting....

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Confrontation 6 years, 1 month ago

It doesn't matter which ticket Phelps ran on, his attitude and hatred only matches the Right.

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pisafromthewest 6 years, 1 month ago

I also wouldn't mind McCain-Lieberman (and I think it would be the ultimate thumbing of the nose from Joe to the Democratic party, even moreso than winning ... handily ... as an independent after being abandoned by the Dems).

His choice, however, is a very, very important one. Remember that whoever McCain picks for his running mate will likely be the president from 2017-2025. ;)

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Tom Shewmon 6 years, 1 month ago

Keyes would be good....except the black establishment and the mainstream Dummiecrats would launch a jihad on the McCain/Keyes ticket.

Maybe McCain/Gingrich.

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Windlass 6 years, 1 month ago

Tweedle Dee and Tweedle Dum?

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Mr_Values 6 years, 1 month ago

McCain / Keyes

Alan Keyes would be a great choice!!

Brings in the conservatives, neutralizes the race issue, and it is a ticket that can win.

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Left_handed 6 years, 1 month ago

McCain/Rice. Something for everyone (almost).

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Agnostick 6 years, 1 month ago

posessionannex (Anonymous) says:

McCain / Powell.

Indefatigable.


Surprisingly, I heartily agree with you. I've wanted to see Colin Powell go for all the marbles, myself.

But Powell's way, way too smart for that. We both know this, posessionannex.

Sadly, your dream is of the "pipe" variety.

Speaking of which... I still think Condi Rice would make a honey of a running mate for any candidate.

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Windlass 6 years, 1 month ago

Since the Republican cheerleaders aren't awake, yet, they won't have to look at still more criminal activity "at the pleasure of" Mr. Karl Rove, probably the most dangerous man in America.

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/02/21/60minutes/main3859830.shtml

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Windlass 6 years, 1 month ago

Cram the White House with all of them. Then don't ever let them out. It would be like taking the penitentiary to this country's worst criminals.

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EXks 6 years, 1 month ago

Queen Hillary is available, isn't she??

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The_Original_Bob 6 years, 1 month ago

Democratic Party Phelps has run in various Kansas Democratic Party primaries five times, but has never won. These included races for governor in 1990, 1994, and 1998, receiving about 15% of the vote in 1998.[36] In the 1992 Democratic Party primary for U.S. Senate, Phelps received 31% of the vote [37] Phelps ran for mayor of Topeka in 1993 [38] and 1997. [39]

Support for Al Gore Phelps supported Al Gore in the 1988 Democratic Party primary election.[40] In his 1984 Senate race, Gore opposed a "gay bill of rights" and stated that homosexuality was not something that "society should affirm".[41] Phelps has stated that he supported Gore because of these earlier comments.[42] According to Phelps, members of the Westboro Baptist Church helped run Gore's 1988 campaign in Kansas. Phelps' son, Fred Phelps Jr., hosted a Gore fundraiser, which Al and Tipper Gore attended, at his home in Topeka.[10][42] Fred Phelps, Jr. served as a Gore delegate to the 1988 Democratic National Convention.[42][43] Gore spokesman Dag Vega declined to comment; "We are not dignifying those stories with a response."[44]

From the never ever wrong Wikipedia. Everything here is backed up with sources though.

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The_Original_Bob 6 years, 1 month ago

Phelps ran for governer of Kansas multiple times on the Democratic ticket.

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hail2oldku 6 years, 1 month ago

Confrontation (Anonymous) says:

I hear Phelps needs some money. They'd make a perfect combination for the Right


Phred is so far right that he's almost all the way around to the left.

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posessionannex 6 years, 1 month ago

Yeah, because of all those pro-Phelps rallies the RNC is always throwing. Oh, wait, that's right, there aren't any Phelps supporters.

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Confrontation 6 years, 1 month ago

I hear Phelps needs some money. They'd make a perfect combination for the Right.

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hail2oldku 6 years, 1 month ago

I wouldn't mind a McCain/Lieberman ticket either.

As for Hillary choosing a running mate to try and salvage a bid, I think her mocking of Obama yesterday pretty much sealed the deal. She has lost it completely.

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posessionannex 6 years, 1 month ago

I'd love to see a McCain / Cheney ticket. My god the heads would explode. You saw it here first, though:

McCain / Powell.

Indefatigable.

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madmike 6 years, 1 month ago

I wouldn't mind seeing a McCain/Lieberman ticjet.

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i_tching 6 years, 1 month ago

Apparently Dan Quayle is unavailable.

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