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February 23, 2008

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The former home to Bucky's Drive In now has a new owner.

A partnership led by Douglas Compton, president of Lawrence-based First Management Inc., bought the property this week at 2120 W. Ninth St., which had been home to the Bucky's restaurant and its precursor, Sandy's, for more than four decades before closing in December.

Financial terms were not disclosed.

Compton said he had no immediate plans for the property. The tract is adjacent to a former Sinclair service station at the northwest corner of Ninth and Iowa streets, which his partnership already owns.

"They're probably prime for redevelopment - someday," Compton said. "I can't tell you it will be tomorrow, but someday that corner will need new life."

He said he'd already heard from several potential occupants for the former Bucky's site, which he describes as rare among available commercial buildings in town, given its drive-through lane and window. He said a couple national chains, including a fried chicken operation, had inquired.

Compton's partnership, Sadies Commercial LC, includes Mike Treanor, principal for Treanor Architects; and David Duncan, formerly of Classic Eagle Distributing. Sadies Commercial bought the former Bucky's site from Fayman Investment Co. Inc.

Long-term plans for the two sites at the corner could feature a project that includes commercial at street level, with residential dwellings upstairs, Compton said.

"But we don't have any immediate plans like that," Compton said. "You've got to be patient. Redevelopments (for buildings) that have been there for 30 or 40 years, they don't happen overnight."

Comments

Douglas Yetman 6 years, 10 months ago

Another Compton conquest...another sad day for Lawrence.

Kent Fisher 6 years, 10 months ago

He collects properties like trophies. His impact on Lawrence is tantamount to Mr. Potter's impact on Bedford Falls in "It's a Wonderful Life."

Richard Heckler 6 years, 10 months ago

I keep getting the feeling empty real estate must be helpful on IRS forms when considering the number of vacancies associated with First Mangagement(residential too),Tanger Mall, Riverfront Plaza etc etc

Empty buildings on commercial sites cost taxpayers money everyday in sales tax revenue. Our government bodies likely count count these properties as potential revenue sources while doing nothing for sales tax generation ..... the city cannot live off property tax alone cuz it does not pay the bills.

Based on current square footage of retail space our government bodies project their budgets yet keep coming up short.

More housing will not add much considering Lawrence is over stocked in both housing and retail.

The city's current budget. crunch can be tied directly to infrastructure expenses needed to serve new housing developments.

If residential growth paid for itself and was financially positive, we would not be in a budget crunch. But with increased numbers of residential you have increased demand on services, and historically the funding of revenues generated by residential housing does not pay for the services they require from a municipality.

It's time for Impact Fees in a huge way so we other taxpayers stop picking up the tab for developers.

DonnieDarko 6 years, 10 months ago

Yeah, it takes time for a "mysterious" fire started by "college students" to level the place so that redevelopment can take place. :-)

Kookamooka 6 years, 10 months ago

Redevelopment is great if the people doing the redevelopment have any imagination but these guys have zip! They don't care much about how their properties effect the community. They just want the buck. Capitalism at it's purest and most greedy.

I'm sure the're dealing for the hotel and club on that stretch of Iowa as well. These guys don't think small. They'll take over the whole block and make another multi-family apartment complex with retail in the bottom.

Why can't the retail at Hobbs Taylor get leased? Because the guys make more money on the tax write off of the empty space than they do if they negotiate a lower rental.

I agree with Merrill. This is some sort of tax law issue that makes our community look weaker and worse that it really is. Too bad these guys won't change their M.O. and flex a little to get useful businesses in these dead storefronts.

Kookamooka 6 years, 10 months ago

hawk says... "You see, with those vacancies, hopefully, those might have worked there have moved on taking their children with them." ACTUALLY... The people who might have worked there would have been college students and old people, not marrieds with children. This town actually has very few families compared to communities like, O.P. that do a better job of attracting them. Single people outnumber marrieds in Lawrence.

Those braless watiresses on rollerskates will be the aging baby boomer hippies of yesteryear, sorry Hawk.

Sigmund 6 years, 10 months ago

Hopefully Compton puts in a Whole Foods Markets across the street from Les Merc and drives their prices down to something close to reasonable and pay their employees a reasonable wage. Whole Foods Market is apparently one of the Fortune 100 Best Companies To Work For. http://www.wholefoodsmarket.com/pressroom/pr_01-09-07.html http://www.wholefoodsmarket.com/stores/StoreLocations.html?storeabbr=MET&state=Kansas&city=Overland%20Park%20%28Metcalf%29&searchBtn=Search

Noweigh 6 years, 10 months ago

The anti's on this board are right. Let's leave 9th and Iowa with an aging, empty Sinclair station and a closed down drive in hamburger restaurant. What a great gateway to Lawrence.

Baille 6 years, 10 months ago

Gateway? How do you get into Lawrence? By helicopter?

geekin_topekan 6 years, 10 months ago

Compton envy? Sure,why not.If I had the $$ Id buy every Lawrence property that came up for sale too.I love Lawrence and would want to have my foot in every crevice. I don't envy COmpton's project in Topeka though.That location is right in crack-central and the city of topeka will not sit still and allow the property to be reserved for a certain population.Sec.8 will be mandated and it will go right down the $hitt3r like the rest of that Godforsaken city.

Michael Capra 6 years, 10 months ago

merrill wants to be a dougett but they wont let him in his club

alm77 6 years, 10 months ago

"He said a couple national chains, including a fried chicken operation, had inquired." crosses fingers Please be Popeye's! Please be Popeyes!!

Michael Capra 6 years, 10 months ago

cool your mad because when you applied to be a dougett they said no and told you to get washed up

BigPrune 6 years, 10 months ago

Is this the same guy who had to sue the City and win in order to bring Walmart to the westside?

More power to him. He's trying to help the community by creating more tax generators.

goodcitizen 6 years, 10 months ago

Can't wait til the sheets of plywood go up and sit there for 5+ years! The Masonic Temple sure does look nice.

toefungus 6 years, 10 months ago

Compton owns Lawrence. I think we should change the name of the town to First Management and elect Potter, I mean Compton to the mayor for life.

justtired 6 years, 10 months ago

if he buys the old axis club he could tear them all down and build a hotel. (this is sarcasm)

crackers 6 years, 10 months ago

How do you become a dougett? Please help.

gccs14r 6 years, 10 months ago

Popeye's? Yuck. I'm pretty tolerant of bad food, but Popeye's is actually inedible. It's the Spangles of chicken joints.

pisafromthewest 6 years, 10 months ago

I guess merrill and cool will soon be tearing down their own homes and opening some kind of retail operation to generate sales tax for the city.

What? No? Then stop trying to tell someone else they have a responsibility to do likewise with property they own.


Taco_Freaker (Anonymous) says:

"I say put a ban on ALL new construction."

Someone probably said the same thing before they built the places where you live and work.

Eileen Jones 6 years, 10 months ago

I guess it will become an eyesore like the Masonic Temple on Mass Street that Doug Compton owns - you know, the building with the ugly rotting plywood structure on the front. A disgusting eyesore on the street that is the crown jewel of Lawrence. If that building were owned by anyone other than Mayor Sue Hack's bestest buddy, you know they would be made to clean that up.

Maybe that's why people do not like Doug Compton. He is not a good citizen.

Michael Capra 6 years, 10 months ago

he boarded up the lodge so merrill and cool couldnt sleep there anymore

BigPrune 6 years, 10 months ago

He should turn the Masonic Temple into what it looks like, a mausoleum. I think a cemetery can go in anywhere, and its close to a lot of the churches. I bet it would make a lot of money.

Buggie7 6 years, 10 months ago

Most anything would be good on that corner except another freakin Gas station. suprised Zarco didnt get this too.

goodcitizen 6 years, 10 months ago

Ah but the "ugly rotting plywood' so nicely set off the giant Kobach banner back in '04. (to be fair it was not so rotten back then) Really, enough is enough, it is an eyesore! Be sure to fine me if I don't get my sidewalk cleared quickly enough, but give Doug 4-5 years to blight downtown.

goodcitizen 6 years, 10 months ago

Oh and (not really sure what most of northtown's post meant) but if "Boog, hack and the Barber" left, that would only leave two of her lap dogs to run the commish. At least Boog and the the Barber sometimes vote for the good of the whole community. I know for a fact that she personally recruited one of the two to run, and since both of them were (over) financed by the same development interests I assume the other one was too.

pisafromthewest 6 years, 10 months ago

Motivation (Anonymous) says:

"The only thing I can say is:can someone PLEASE get Marion off these blogs!! He/she is accomplishing nothing but wasting space for valuable comments."

Personally I'd much rather see space freed up by doing away with the babbling ranters who never once say anything pertaining to the topic but post at least a dozen or so times per thread solely to criticize Marion.

And looking at your post...

Flap Doodle 6 years, 10 months ago

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gkwhdw 6 years, 10 months ago

Who's envious of compton, let alone wanting to be a Dougette. All depends on who you marry into,my dear!

alfie 6 years, 10 months ago

Who's envious of compton, let alone wanting to be a Dougette. All depends on who you marry into,my dear!

You are absolutely correct, what happens the day she packs her bag and takes daddy's money with her?

alm77 6 years, 10 months ago

Yes, Church's is excellent as well. I'm just dreaming of spicy mashed potatoes.... mmmmmmm

XTC 6 years, 10 months ago

Typical discussion, everyone knows everything. 9 & Iowa, Starbucks drive-thru. Wait, watch, and get ready !

Crossfire 6 years, 10 months ago

Go-Chicken-Go Gizz and G-Sauce trumps Pop-eyes.

Godot 6 years, 10 months ago

Please, please, do not put in a KFC or a Popeye's.

Dorothy Hoyt-Reed 6 years, 10 months ago

That corner could use a redo, but how long will it take? Look what he has done (or rather, not done) to the old Masonic Temple downtown. Maybe he wants to make the center of the city blighted, so more people want to move west to one of his developments out there.

buffalo_star 6 years, 10 months ago

doug envy is spreading and whiners are highly susceptible.

gkwhdw 6 years, 10 months ago

I've been living in Lawrence all my life, born and raised here and loved every minute of it. Who says anybody needs more stupid apartment complexes in the area of ninth and Iowa? Hillcrest is an old Lawrence landmark, it's the place where Raney's drug used to sell us cherry cokes everynite on the way home from school from West Junior High and locally owned and operated by Dick Raney. Hillcrest Bowl used to have a restaurant where I worked evenings and where my children used to bowl on Saturday mornings. The YUK UP and YUK DOWN were fun entertainment for pool and local music. There's alot of history about to be torn down Leave it alone Compton, go back to your hometown and mess it up, We know where that is.

gkwhdw 6 years, 10 months ago

Bowhunter, it's a free world or the last time I checked it was. Since you're so free with suggestions why don't you buy it or you move into Dougie's town. Sounds like you belong there.

misseve 6 years, 10 months ago

I agree that something needs to be done with the vacant buildings on the corner of 9th and Iowa, but as a long time resident, i would HATE to see it end up with "for rent" and First Management signs there forever. If First Management wishes to own everything in town, they need to do something with the buildings. They also need to remember there are more people than the students and old folks around here, I have kids that are always in that neighborhood and would like to have something FAMILY friendly.

gkwhdw 6 years, 10 months ago

Misseve- at least someone has some common sense left for hometown friendly,it is our business when the rich and famous buy property and try to tear down everything that people are always raving about the beauty of "Hometown Lawrence". That won't be around long if more places like townhomes,etc. start movin in. I live here too Build somewhere at the end of town.

misseve 6 years, 10 months ago

Who said we need more apartment complexes? OMG have you NOT driven around town and looked at all the for rent/lease signs? We need more apartments that are overpriced like we need more banks and gas stations. Lets work on getting things this town needs like FAMILY friendly, VISITOR friendly venues here. This town doesn't need more sports bars, surely doesn't need a Hooters, Heck we have enough car lots too. We don't need more "shopping centers" and business parks with no tenants. We don't need more "traffic calming devices" or bike lanes. What we need are people who truly care about making this town better for all that lives here not just the investors and students.

Motivation 6 years, 10 months ago

The only thing I can say is...can someone PLEASE get Marion off these blogs!! He/she is accomplishing nothing but wasting space for valuable comments. Possibly a verified user, but a complete idiot!!

Thank you.

Jay Riner 6 years, 10 months ago

Time to grow up children. These forums are for TOPICAL discussions. Nobody gives one squirt of pi$$ who's smarter, better connected, or more IT savvy, than the other. The only message that you're effectively relaying, is that you're capable of acting like pre-adolescents. I suggest meeting somewhere and beating the cr@p out of each other. Loser goes away. Please keep your personal ravings/ fourm-vandalism to yourselves. Please.

Flap Doodle 6 years, 10 months ago

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Godot 6 years, 10 months ago

Compton buys property, lets it deteriorate to the point that it becomes blighted, then approaches the city with a plan to redevelop the blighted area, as long as the city kicks in some financial support via TIF.

That is my personal prediction; no facts, just observation.

Kookamooka 6 years, 10 months ago

Here's what I want. If he takes away a hotel, he needs to replace it. There are not enough hotel rooms in this town and with all of the tourism the city will attract with the new improved Watkins and other Civil War excitement :) we'll need all that we can get!

In addition, there needs to be a restaurant that faces the park and is a great after frisbee golf/sledding/skateboarding destination with a huge patio so people can get a beer and still have their dogs sit next to them. A bucky's hamburger and soft serve ice cream should absolutely be on the menu! The restaurant should be family friendly, not a sports bar with hooters girls. (unless they serve breast milk-that's what hooters are for.)

If Compton can squeeze a public fountain where dogs and kids can splash into the over all development plan, I would be most obliged. Make it a cozy, welcoming corner that enhances the park, maybe even extends toward the park, and the people will extend toward the development.

Compton has to realize now, that in order to have successful businesses, he needs to do a smash up job with the public relations. If anyone could use a P.R. person, it would be his Sadie LLC.

jumpin_catfish 6 years, 10 months ago

"But man postpones or remembers; he does not live in the present, but with reverted eye laments the past, or, heedless of the riches that surround him, stands on tiptoe to foresee the future. He cannot be happy and strong until he too lives with nature in the present, above time."

Ralph Waldo Emerson (from the 'Self Reliance' essay, 1841)

Flap Doodle 6 years, 10 months ago

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Dixie Jones 6 years, 10 months ago

ROLLS EYES this is getting lame, i thought we were talking about the closing of buckys and the opening of something new , marion sounds like a moron to me and you all should just ignore his / her/ its comments .... now what happened to the axis club did it burn or something yeah i know im behind on times but im not from lawrence

Flap Doodle 6 years, 10 months ago

snap writes:

still having a wonderful non-outed internet life.

BTW, have you called for a "blue security" on anyone lately, Nick?

GretchenJP 6 years, 10 months ago

Build a Smokey Bones! There's not a single one in Kansas!

Flap Doodle 6 years, 10 months ago

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Jay Riner 6 years, 10 months ago

Smokey Bones is a Darden concept. Other names under their control are recognizable ones, such as Red Lobster,Olive Garden, Bahama Breeze, Capital Grille, and Longhorn Steakhouse. I believe that the Longhorn at 31st and Iowa is a market test. If any of you would like these restaurants in Lawrence, try frequenting the one that's already here, however, I suggest spending local dollars in locally owned establishments. They are what make Lawrence, Lawrence, and not just JoCo West.

Motivation 6 years, 10 months ago

I would really like to follow this conversation...

I think a Popeyes or Church's would prosper in that location. However, a Starbuck's Coffee House has potential to make money. That area is full of students, and being close to a laundrymat...

Hopefully, not another gas station. That corner is almost exhausted. I know that Hillcrest parking lot needs a little make over, I almost lost the undercarriage to my car driving through there one night!

StrangerCreek 6 years, 10 months ago

Talk, talk, talk. All you negatives do is talk. And so what are you doing? How about you put up the cash and buy the Temple and turn it into something. Why didn't you buy Bucky's? How about you go downtown and buy something, put your money where your mouth is and build something for the community. Monday morning quarterbacks. Those that can, do. Those that can't, complain.

Seems really easy for you guys to put down a guy who is self-made and dedicated to this community. He always makes sure that local companies get a chance to work on his projects. And that puts money into the local economy. Not Dallas, not Chicago. Lawrence.

The biggest problem is the city. Blowing all that money on round-about's. Be careful when you go the post office downtown that the lamp post on the corner doesn't fall on you. The concrete base has almost weathered away and the pole is leaning. I've been watching it for a year or so and figure it's just a matter of time. And if I can see it why can't they? Because we spent six figures on a traffic circle. We don't have enough brains in the planning dept to get the sewers to accommodate growth so we stop all the work and hundreds of local breadwinners are out of work. We left for Topeka. We left for Junction City, We we left for Johnson County. Buy a small building permit in Lawrence, it costs $1,000. The same job in Shawnee, $40. Mission Hills $189. Topeka $200. That sucking sound you hear is money and skills leaving town.

And this city says, sure, you can build on this corner, puts it in writing to you. Go ahead and spend a couple of hundred thousand in planning. Then you go in with your paperwork and they say nah, somebody complained. I guarantee you that both Wal-Mart lots will be packed with cars every weekend. It is what it is.

And yes, you can still build a small business in this era. You just have to be special. Better than most. Have a niche. Work hard. It's never changed. It's the same today as 100 years ago to start a business. It's just the fabric that changes. The car makers put the buggy whip makers out of business. You gonna cry for them? Some adapted, some didn't. Why do you think body shops started out being called carriage shops? Because the dudes making buggys adapted.

Things change. This is America and you can say what you will but it is and always has been a capitalist society. It's your responsibility to get out and make something of yourself. Not throw stones at those who do.

Dixie Jones 6 years, 10 months ago

oh and MORON oops i mean marion did you ever stop to think i did do a search on axis club and got nothing but info on a rape.....not a reason why it was closed. now whos the bright one A$$ and yes wouldnt it be delightful if for once we could have a blog session where marion dont turn everything around and start off the wall stuff about something other than the topic.have a wonderful day all !

Eileen Jones 6 years, 10 months ago

Doug Compton does not make any effort to maintain the properties he sits on and leaves empty.

The rotting particle board covering the face of the Masonic Temple - right across the street from our courthouse on Mass! - is an eyesore and shames the city. Compton should be made to clean that up. Surely there is some ordinance it violates. And as far as Mayor Hack saying it is "temporary" - I think it has been there for three years now! If he wants to keep people out of the lobby, make him put up an iron gate so that it does not make downtown look like the slum it really is with Compton owning empty buildings.

Compton gets special privileges to make downtown look decrepit because he is $$$$$ friends with the mayor and commissioners.

Baille 6 years, 10 months ago

"No Baille, Noweigh comes thru Lawrence thru the West Turnpike Exit:. so yes, that intersection is one of the first ones people see when they're in Lawrence."

I do, too. I see the belching smokestacks, the bowling ball factory, the warehouses, the Hallmark emotion factory, the Holiday Inn, the USD palace, the country club golf course, the blue Sallie Mae building, the two cheap hotels, the arc eng firm, the tunnel, the used car place, and the other cheap motels all before I ever get to Bucky's.

I don't disagree the area could use a little updating - although with Compton's track record I am not sure he is who I would pick to do the updating. (Of course, this being, you know, a free country for the most part I don't get to pick.)

I just found it funny that this area was described as a gateway to Lawrence. It's not. I think it may have been back in 1964, but unfortunately unchecked sprawl and cancerous growth has made this intersection mid-Lawrence.

Danielle Brunin 6 years, 10 months ago

I vote for a Kenny Rogers Roasters. Oh yeaaah!

Godot 6 years, 10 months ago

Please, please, no fried chicken! Please!! Rent to a yogurt or gyro joint, just not fried chicken!

Godot 6 years, 10 months ago

There is hope. Compton rented to to gyro place on Mass.

Come on, Doug, please, please, hold out for something other than fried chicken, please, if you respect us, do not do this!

Linda Aikins 6 years, 10 months ago

You go Doug! I believe that corner is an eyesore now, and at least you and the others are willing to step up and do something about it. Between you and Mike, I know something nice will go in there.

Thanks to all three of you for trying to keep Lawrence from dying.

If he hadn't bought the Mason Hall, who knows what it would look like today.

Besides, I want an Olive Garden , Red Lobster, or a nice breakfast place there.

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