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Greenpeace seeking global warming input

August 11, 2008

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Representatives of Greenpeace will be in South Park on Thursday afternoon to interview residents about the effects of global warming.

Visitors will be able to record a video or write a postcard or e-mail to congressional leaders and political candidates seeking action to end global warming. The event will be from noon to 3 p.m.

Greenpeace is bringing an educational vehicle that runs on biodiesel and is equipped with 256 square feet of solar panels. It can supply enough energy to power three homes, concerts and other events without creating pollution, according to Greenpeace, an environmental-issues organization.

Comments

ReadingSports 6 years, 7 months ago

I don't know, wouldn't harpooning Japanese whales be a lot easier? And I don't think Greenpieces is going to start harponing any kind of whale, much less Japanese ones. Personally, I think Greenpieces should try trepanation, but that might make the global warming problem greater by several orders of magnitude.

Quigly 6 years, 7 months ago

Why again? Are they going to catch some scientists at the park that we don't know about? They spend their money on this? All you have to do is sit at the park and watch what drives by. SUVS with 1 little girl driving it down the block to the quick shop or to the bars instead of walking yadda yadda. What a waste of time Greenpeace. Besides I think what they are trying to push has just been pushed at the Little Green Fest? Right? oh well, it is not there money. They need to go to Topeka.

cato_the_elder 6 years, 7 months ago

I sincerely hope that each of them gets substantial input - and that in each case, the input is shoved into a particularly dark, non-globally warmed location.

cato_the_elder 6 years, 7 months ago

Bozo, if you will put on your reading glasses and read my post again, you will note that it was clearly denominated as a "hope." Thus, your hope that I would have made a "threat" is a forlorn one.

SettingTheRecordStraight 6 years, 7 months ago

Greenpeace? Are they still around? I thought they merged with the Earth Liberation Front back in the 90's.

SettingTheRecordStraight 6 years, 7 months ago

bozo,You're paranoid and, obviously, very bored.

Navin_R_Johnson 6 years, 7 months ago

i bet when the ice receded in europe and our ancestors emerged from it's hold some 60,000 years ago, they were pretty damn happy that the globe was warmin.'of course their SUVs didn't survive and all evidence of their existence was washed away.

Sigmund 6 years, 7 months ago

From: Noah T. Winer, MoveOn.org Political Action [moveonhelp@list.moveon.org]Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2008 3:57 PMTo: Dan KotmanSubject: Blaming BarackDear MoveOn member, Last month, conservatives led by Newt Gingrich and Rush Limbaugh sent over a million messages to Congress calling for offshore oil drilling. Then John McCain joined the push for drilling. Now he's running ads saying Obama's responsible for high gas prices, because Obama's energy plan focuses on alternative energy-not drilling.It's a scam. Offshore drilling won't save any money at the pumps for years (although it will boost oil company profits). But some senior Democrats are showing signs of caving under all this pressure-and polls show McCain' attacks may be hurting Obama.Here's the truth: Right now, progressives are losing this argument. We all need to fight back. If we don't, we could end up losing the election AND the fight for clean energy.

1029 6 years, 7 months ago

Input? What's there to input? Any intelligent folks knows that global warming is a liberal myth, fueled by the far-left liberal blogosphere that is funded by George Soros. This is part of the propaganda machine that is trying to trick Americans into voting for Obama--a celebrity candidate that nobody knows nothing about except that taxes will be higher.

ReadingSports 6 years, 7 months ago

Oh, whalers... I thought you said whales... My Bad.

just_another_bozo_on_this_bus 6 years, 7 months ago

"You're paranoid and, obviously, very bored."Is it really possible to be both?

solarenergy4all 6 years, 7 months ago

Incentivizing the general public to combat climate change.With the skyrocketing energy prices and the credit crunch affecting more and more of us, it is no wonder that we are becoming more reluctant to act even if we don't fool ourselves into a false scepticism about the human causes of global warming.In hard times people will look to any excuse to either avoid or even acknowledge their responsibilities if it costs them. Global warming, or more accurately, climate change is a fact Even though we in Western Europe are not feeling the full force of it yet, it does not mean it is not happening. The evidence is growing, yet, as it is said, "There are none so blind as those who will not see."Mother Nature has been around for billions of years and will always survive. What is not certain is our survival. We are talking about saving our home - the planet earth. We should make sure that our home is still habitable not only for our children but their children too.In short, we have to reduce our carbon footprint and our ever-increasing reliance on fossil fuels. High oil prices of recent years will go a long way to achieve that in part, this is a simple case of economics in action, but this will take too long. Rather than implicitly punishing us through global economic forces, possibly strengthened by green taxes the best way to achieve our goals of continued human civilization would be to harness those same economic forces and incentivize the general public to take action.There is a company called Solar Energy4All, who are offering people the opportunity not only to save on their electricity bills but at the same reduce the amount of CO2 being emitted into the atmosphere, by installing solar photovoltaic systems in areas where sunshine is in ample supply. IAs electricity generation is responsible for nearly 40% of all CO2 emissions, it's a great start. And it's a start that we can all make to our individual and collective benefit. Don't wait for the politicians to solve this - show the politicians that this is really a case of power to the people.So why not visit their website, http://www.solarenergy-4all.com do yourself a favour, do mother nature a favour and above all do your children a favour.

just_another_bozo_on_this_bus 6 years, 7 months ago

"Greenpeace has no scientific or authoritive basis to conduct anything."An inaccurate statement, but if it were true, in your world isn't that the hallmark of a worthy organization, madmike?

beatrice 6 years, 7 months ago

Tom: "ELF is a radical extremist ecoterrorist group splintered off from EarthFirst! who is associated with Greenpeace."So, a radical splinter group from an associated group to another group means the last group should be in question? That is like wanting to arrest a second cousin of a bank robber who lives in another state for the crime. Do you think Mitt Romney should have to answer for what Warren Jeffs did? However, I won't deny that this is some pretty hippie dippie stuff. I mean, why don't they have you whisper your thoughts into a block of ice that will be dropped on the North Pole. This is about recruitment for the cause, plain and simple. Getting people thinking about global warming and man's possible influence on it isn't a bad thing, but there is nothing scientific about it.

Sigmund 6 years, 7 months ago

"A U.S. Coast Guard cutter will embark on an Arctic voyage this week to determine the extent of the continental shelf north of Alaska and map the ocean floor, data that could be used for oil and natural gas exploration.". . . ."With oil at $114 a barrel, after hitting a record $147 in July, and sea ice melting fast, countries like Russia and the United States are looking north for possible energy riches."http://www.reuters.com/article/topNews/idUSN1138192220080811?feedType=RSS&feedName=topNews&rpc=22&sp=trueWould you rather compete with Russia drilling for oil in the Arctic or war defending Georgia? Your choice."Amid fears Moscow intends to seize the whole country to gain control of its crucial oil pipelines, Mr Cheney declared Russian military action 'must not go unanswered'."http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/news/article-23530546-details/Defiant+Putin+accuses+US+of+'helping+Georgia'+as+fighting+escalates+amid+fears+of+ground+invasion/article.do

Sigmund 6 years, 7 months ago

stillcoolandhere (Anonymous) says:"go ELF!!!!!"stillcoolandstillamentalmidget

cato_the_elder 6 years, 7 months ago

Bozo, I'm disappointed to have to take you back to high school, but an "idle threat" is no threat at all. I had earlier thought that you might have understood same but had inadvertently misspoken. I was apparently laboring under a misapprehension.

just_another_bozo_on_this_bus 6 years, 7 months ago

No misstatement, cato. It was either a threat, or an idle threat. You ruled out the former, and I took your word for that, so that means it was the latter.

cato_the_elder 6 years, 7 months ago

Bozo, you're slipping - let me help you. By definition, I don't think that you meant "idle threat." If what you meant instead was a "veiled threat," my answer is still the same.

not_dolph 6 years, 7 months ago

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just_another_bozo_on_this_bus 6 years, 7 months ago

Nope, "idle threat" pretty well sums it up. Just because you don't intend to carry out the act you propose doesn't mean that it is intended to have any other effect than a chilling, intimidating one. Even though the Greenpeace reps likely haven't read this forum, there is no other way to interpret cato's intent-- if you have a different interpretation, I'm ready to laugh at you in your strained attempts to make that case.

allateup 6 years, 7 months ago

Bozo.....Been reading these posts for a long time.....I read what cato wrote and can not for the life of me see how you took that as a threat.....put the roach down dude! Everyone gets paranoid when they do that kind of thing!!!

notajayhawk 6 years, 7 months ago

Noah T. Winer, MoveOn.org, as quoted by Sigmund (Anonymous) says: "It's a scam. Offshore drilling won't save any money at the pumps for years (although it will boost oil company profits)."Speaking of scams, perhaps (the aptly named) Mr. Winer would like to take a shot at how the oil companies' profits will be 'boosted' before the oil hits the market by increasing drilling costs?Of course, Obamalamadingdong's plan - to tap the strategic reserve (this is a 'plan,' not a 'gimmick,' of course) - will have a somewhat more immediate effect - in availability if not price. But then, availability isn't the problem, there's already a surplus of gasoline. And in a month, when the reserve is gone, Obamalamadingdong's plan will accomplish exactly zip - not now, not in ten years, not in ten centuries. But with the reserve exhausted, we'll once again be at risk of another interuption in supply like in the 70's. Great plan, Obamalamadingdong.

cato_the_elder 6 years, 7 months ago

Bozo, you misstated what you attempted to say, but won't admit it. However, the main reason it wasn't a threat is that the nominally male members of the group in question would probably have enjoyed what I described.

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