Archive for Saturday, September 8, 2007

Ugly Jayhawk

A video now making the rounds on the Internet is an embarrassment to Kansas University.

September 8, 2007

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Kansas University alumni everywhere should be embarrassed by football coach Mark Mangino's profane tirade that's displayed for all the world to see on YouTube.

Mangino also gets physical with Raimond Pendleton in the videotaped incident, triggered when Pendleton capped a touchdown run with a dive into the end zone, bringing a penalty flag. Woody Hayes would've been proud of Mangino's outburst, that's uglier than the big gouge in the Campanile hillside.

It is disappointing that neither Athletic Director Lew Perkins nor Chancellor Robert Hemenway has publicly addressed this shameful reflection on the university.

Apparently, anything goes.

Comments

BrianR 7 years, 12 months ago

Yes, the dive was shameful. Apparently this writer has never played a sport before.

marxisnotdead 7 years, 12 months ago

Sports, sports, sports, ......ugh! MOre shameful, is the state of academic affairs and delapidating buildings at KU. Who is squawking about that?

trinity 7 years, 12 months ago

or just sit there&eat your french cries. ;)

emmersonbiggones 7 years, 12 months ago

My virginal ears were hurting because I couldn't hear all the bad words coming from the coach after the stupid mistake by the player. I wonder if the writer thinks sports shouldn't keep scores so no team is a loser?

lunacydetector 7 years, 12 months ago

is the editor calling mangino an 'ugly jayhawk?' come on, he's not a bad looking guy. as for the 'getting physical' part, players grab other players' face masks all the time.

i have a feeling this editor must be a woman. this editorial sounds too sensitive.

GoHarvick29 7 years, 12 months ago

Embarrassment, hmmmm I didn't see any embarrassment. In fact, I saw a football coach telling a kid who was show boating (which is against the rules), and caused a penalty for it what mistake he made and how he was just thinking of himself and not the team. This isn't the UK, there isn't any tea and crumpets after the play to talk about it. I don't know who wrote this but, a football coach acting like a football coach is not a big deal. Maybe before commenting on this stuff again the editor should go to a couple of jr. high or high school games in town and see how the environment is or even watch HBO on the Chiefs training camp show. It's just the game no black eye I think the coach did the right thing.

rooga 7 years, 12 months ago

WHAAAT!! Have you seen the video!! This is POOR POOR coaching by the BIG man! I dont think he will be getting any Coach of the Year awards. Getting after a player is one thing, but BLOWING UP and acting like a psycho is another. I think he should learn how to coach. Thats NOT the way to discipline a player!! Check it out:

dirkleisure 7 years, 12 months ago

Ann, Dolph, and the editorial staff,

Feel better?

The only reason it publish this tripe is to pad your own ego and fill you need for self righteousness.

May I channel Sen. Bulworth? What is fing embarssing to the University is the local newspaper's continued harping on delusional "conspiracies" among KU's administration and various civic leaders. THAT is the fing embarassment.

sweettrue2 7 years, 12 months ago

It's a tuff sport, with rules, and tuff consequences. Get over it, I'm sure Pendleton and any other player will double think making a careless, preventable mistake again. Great Job Coach! Next time the team may not be kicking butt on points, then ya'll be crying about that stupid mistake

Jean1183 7 years, 12 months ago

What!?! You have got to be kidding? I've yelled at my own kids worse than that before for stupid things they've done.

My son didn't have a thing to worry about in boot camp. He knew there was no drill sergeant in the world that could out yell his mom.

Jean1183 7 years, 12 months ago

Oh..........BTW, pretty cool dive though.

cms 7 years, 12 months ago

THAT is what a coach is to do. React quickly and move on. The kid won't make the mistake again.

Jean1183, funny. I bet you have GREAT kids.

Uhlrick_Hetfield_III 7 years, 12 months ago

Between this and the stupid article on the Tongie mayor the JW is not having a stellar news day.

Give 'em hell coach, we may have a decent team yet.

classclown 7 years, 12 months ago

While there are plenty of things for KU and its' alumni to be embarrassed about, this isn't one of them.

One thing I am curious about though. While Mangino's behavior is actually a normal occurrence on any football sideline, there is usually only video of the chewing out. We never get an audio of them. I assume most likely because the language is not allowed on the airwaves.

So why was Mangino miked for this? Is someone wanting to embarrass him in to leaving?

I'm not trying to start some big conspiracy thing here, just curious as to why he specifically was singled out to have his 'tirade' as some of you thin skinners call it posted.

Scott Tichenor 7 years, 12 months ago

If the JW management is truly serious about poor behavior in the community they could start by policing some of the trash they produce in their newspaper. The story on the Tonganoxie mayor being a prime example of a news outlet that's lost their journalistic compass on what is news, and what is information fit for cheap supermarket tabloids.

OnlyTheOne 7 years, 12 months ago

From the way Pendelton turns and walks away I'll wager he got the point more than what's his name Vick the dog killer has.

elkwc36 7 years, 12 months ago

I felt he did the right thing. Would I prefer he use a few different words yes but even at that you hear a lot worse on the TV everyday. And with todays youth that tend to think about me first instead of the team you have to get their attention someway or it would never stop. My uncle was one of the most successful and respected coaches in KS during his career and he would grab the facefask and try to put his face in it when talking to a player who didn't listen or follow team rules and instructions. It is kind of like the swats I got in school I made sure I didn't do anything to get another one. If a player don't like it he can refrain from making that mistake again. I've been with a major corporation for almost 33 years. And having to work some of these young adults who have always been babied makes you wonder about our future. I have been told "Don't tell me what to do and I only do it if asked nice." They are drawing a paycheck and we all have bosses. And that is what they are for is too tell someone what to do and how to do it if necessary. Have you ever heard what boot camp and the army is like? I applaud him for taking the right action and doing it swiftly.

just_another_ninja 7 years, 12 months ago

I don't know what to think about this "editorial".

Why are we still on this? Obviously these people have never played high-level sports before. Do you want everyone to wear flowers in their helmets and blow kisses to the crowd?!?! wtf people

These athletes are grown men. They're treated as such and are expected to act as such. If they jack around and forget their place, you better hope that the coach has the balls to set things straight... regardless of who's watching or what others might think... especially early on in the season.

Mangino acted on behalf of the team. What would Terry Allen have done? That's right, that's why he's not a coach at KU any longer. He preferred flowers over crimson and blue.

Drop this subject and root for the 'hawks this weekend. Do it or stfu.

toefungus 7 years, 12 months ago

Ok, KU students. Here is a challenge. Put some video of your professors having a tirade on YouTube.

TheYetiSpeaks 7 years, 12 months ago

Yeah, well, my professors arent asking me to run full speed and throw my body into 300 lb. men.

packrat 7 years, 12 months ago

TheYetiSpeaks -- Your professors aren't paying your way through school based on your ability to do so either.

The tirade had the desired effect. Later on did anyone else see the kid who after scoring a touchdown thought about spiking the ball over the goal post, but stopped?

captain_poindexter 7 years, 12 months ago

waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh waaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

nice work journal world, printing this stupid editorial on game day. wonder why ku has such bad football fans.

lazz 7 years, 12 months ago

If the editorial writers took the trouble to attend the game, or at least pay attention, and not rely on youtube for their research, they would also know that Coach Mangino was the first person out on the field to congratulate the same player after the next punt, on which he make a terrific catch in traffic and showed real skill and courage. Coach Mangino congratulated him heartily, and could be seen saying something more, and the kid doing the same. By every indication it was apologies offered and accepted by both men. They moved on. Maybe others can, too.

LJWJohn 7 years, 12 months ago

My son plays high school football and I always support him in any way that I can. I went to his game lastnight and don't think the sidelines were any kinder there. It is to be expected. I have watched the coach yell to no end at the kids when needed. They also all respect the coach and have a very winning team. As someone stated earlier, gameday was not a good day to post this. And in my opinion there wasn't a good day to post this. The comments tell the story. The coach did his jod as he should. Did the editor?

Ralph Reed 7 years, 12 months ago

Let's see, Pendleton is paid to play football for KU - he has a full-ride scholarship. So, he's not a volunteer. He can quite at any time, but then he won't be paid. That happens when you quit a job. Mangino hired him, so he can tell him what and how to do things, and can chastise him when he does something wrong. I may not agree entirely with his management style, but I've seen worse; a lot worse.

So give it a rest; the coach made an effective on-the-spot correction. That should be the end of it.

On another note, I agree with the comment by elkwc36. "... having to work some of these young adults who have always been babied makes you wonder about our future. I have been told "Don't tell me what to do and I only do it if asked nice." They are drawing a paycheck and we all have bosses ... what they are for is too tell someone what to do and how to do it if necessary." Even though we (my generation) raised the 20-somethings to be the way they are, it bothers me when managers need courses on how to properly praise these kids so they'll do work.

Finally. Yes, today is a really slow news day when the Tongy mayor and Coach Mangino are the focus of today's news. I expect more of the LJW, not drivel such as these two news stories (written opinions).

laughingatallofu 7 years, 12 months ago

I have to laugh at the weak attempt of the LJW editorial board to demonstrate that they are "politically correct".

Maybe if these prima-donnas managed to even attempt to cover what they editorialize about, they would realize that the suckers who buy their pitiful newspaper are far more adroit than they can possibly imagine. And I thought BUSH was out of touch! (But I digress).

The majority of posts so far are in favor of Coach Mangino. Yeah, he used the F-bomb (who doesn't?), ripped a new a-hole into someone who needed to learn sportsmanship (good for both of them), and he's morbidly obese (he does need to work on this, IMHO). But other than that, the YouTube video was good theater. LJW, my advice would be to editorialize about REAL issues.

oldalum 7 years, 12 months ago

This KU alum is more embarrassed by the editorial than anything that happened on the field. I think this editor needs to climb down from his/her ivory tower and take a look at the real world. Judging the actions and motives of others requires a level of perfection that seems to be lacking here.

Bud Stagg 7 years, 12 months ago

I agree alum. I've seen coach also cheer on one of his players with just as much enthusiasm. I work with college age kids. I guarantee that if he had treated that player with any less fury, he would have done it again. He might still.

I too am embarrassed at the editorial.

brainfreeze 7 years, 12 months ago

as a football watching newbie, i was kind of surprised that this guy's actions were such a big deal (given the crap you see in the NFL basically every time a point is scored, or at least the times i've seen footage on tv)...so i had to ask questions about what all was going on and why everyone started booing.

the man next to me summed it up pretty well:

"see, in college football, the players aren't allowed to be happy that they've scored a touchdown"

as an artist, i've always been fascinated by sports because i have no idea how most of them work...but it seems a bit crazy that everyone completely freaked out over a little celebration. i hope that doesn't invite a flamewar, i just left my first big football game a little confused and then seeing the youtube immortalization of the whole deal was even crazier. do people always get this worked up about the small stuff?

laughingatallofu 7 years, 12 months ago

do people always get this worked up about the small stuff? <<<

Apparently the LJW editorial staff does. They haven't any more useful things to do.

ralphralph 7 years, 12 months ago

I'm more embarrassed that Mangina isn't doing anything apparent to deal with his weight. What a bad example for the athletes and fans. Hey, I'm no skinny guy, but you have to at least fight the good fight. He's got access to nutritionists, trainers, exercise equipment, etc., and if you add in a positive personal decision and a steadfast commitment, you will see a shrinking and healthier man. p.s. - as to the chewing out ... I'm with him. Our coach always said, in regard to reaching the end zone, to act like you've been there before and expect to be back.

camper 7 years, 12 months ago

I am thankful for the many lessons in life coaches taught me while growing up. This doesn't mean that I would not want to punch some of them in the face if I ever ran into em on the street....now that I am as big as they are. They are drill sargeants, talking a lot of nonsense, but nonetheless providing valuable lessons.

Mangino is no exception. He is a good coach though.

gogoplata 7 years, 12 months ago

I am amazed at what an sissified society we live in. Some people are so easily offended.

just_another_ninja 7 years, 12 months ago

So is anonymously posting slander, Kookamooka.

Bradley Menze 7 years, 12 months ago

I just watched his tirade on YouTube... What a jerk. I'd settle for a "dadgummit"!

janeyb 7 years, 12 months ago

I would hope the KU fans are so loud that Mangino has to yell at his players. It wouldn't look to good if he could talk to them calmly and quietly on the sidelines. Then fans would complain that Mangino lacks enthusiasm. I'm still angry that Roy Williams can run on the court during tournament play, grab one of his players and shake him, then slam a chair to the floor on the sidelines and no whistle is blown. If Bobby Knight justs taps a player on the chin to get him to listen it is all over the news. Either call all coaches on their actions or leave it alone.

Andy Hess 7 years, 12 months ago

boo hoo. it's called football, not pattycake. i know people would love to live in this bubble where it rains gumdrops and no one swears ever, but this is the real world. people cuss. Pendleton cost the team 15 yards and got yelled at accordingly. get over it. and LJW, spare us all the histrionics, ok?

budwhysir 7 years, 12 months ago

Unless our teams can win and our staff can act in a way that will attract big donations, how are we ever going to keep this university running???

b_asinbeer 7 years, 12 months ago

Great job coach! I didn't find the tirade wrong...sometimes you gotta yell at young kids to get the point across.

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