Archive for Saturday, September 1, 2007

Not humane

September 1, 2007


To the editor:

I attended the "Eating Organic" event at Liberty Hall last week and was amazed by the large turnout of people who want to see positive changes to our food supply.

However, I want to comment on a new trend promoted at this event that I find disturbing; "humane meat, dairy and eggs." Unfortunately, there is no such thing, because anytime a farm animal is being used by humans, suffering is inevitable. Just removing them from the metal buildings for their 6 to 12 months of life on the "free-range" or "organic" farm, does not alleviate the immense suffering they endure through transport and slaughter. Even large organic dairy farms still tear baby calves away from their mothers within 48 hours so her milk can go to humans instead of her baby. How can any of this be considered "humane"?

It's admirable that people are allowing themselves to understand the horrors of factory farming and are demanding change, but we are forgetting what put our world in this mess in the first place: a human population spiraling out of control demanding cheap animal products. So while organic, "humane" meat, dairy and eggs may seem like the answer now, an animal-based diet will never be a long-term sustainable solution for feeding billions of people on our planet.

Sadly, no matter how good the intentions are of many kindhearted people and farmers, they will never be able to keep up with the demand and keep their products "humane."

Ann Wilson,



Ragingbear 10 years, 9 months ago

Yes, but it's the abuse they endure that make them so tasty.

kansas778 10 years, 9 months ago

Mmmm, this article makes me want to get a burger...

Joe Hyde 10 years, 9 months ago

Every human alive has an impact on domestic and wild animals. And that goes whether a person follows a strictly vegetarian diet or the more common omnivorious diet. Every human act, individually or collectively, causes animals to suffer in one way or another. The worse of these impacts, in my opinion, is the loss of habitat -- and not just habitat for wild animals but domesticated ones as well.

The great irony, the paradox that so many find difficult to understand, is how people who enjoy hunting and fishing wild game and/or raising domesticated animals in a free-range environment are the ones who are most serious about protecting the habitats needed by those animals. They also are the ones most involved in treating animals "humanely" by delivering a quick kill that causes as little pain and suffering as possible.

This is not to dispute or refute the writer's view, only to perhaps broaden it so that people, groups and activities may be recognized that are conforming (as much as possible) to the writer's desire for better treatment of food animals. We humans are killers, every single one of us. How we go about it -- the respect we feel and demonstrate -- is what matters.

ASBESTOS 10 years, 9 months ago

Our brains are bigger and grew that way because ov evolution and the higher protien content in meat. When we went from gatherer of herbage and started eating meat we evolved.

You buck evolution with your unintelligent post

erod0723 10 years, 9 months ago

The Peta freaks would rather have all the animals in the world dead than be killed by us. They are some of the biggest economic terrorists, breaking into legitimate farms and poisoning animals before they can be slaughtered. To all the peta freaks, chill out. Have a beer and a tasty Bic Mac. It'll make you feel oh so much better.

Richard Heckler 10 years, 9 months ago

The fact is expanding the diet to include more fruits,veggies, rice,beans,whole grains and more exercise the body will develop without meat in the diet.

Charles L. Bloss, Jr. 10 years, 9 months ago

Some people do not know what condoms are, if they do they aren't using them. Using condoms would alleviate many of the starving people in the world. If they stop having babies they cannot support, and it would help with the huge population that have HIV/AIDS, and other sexually transmitted diseases. Thank you, Lynn

Dorothy Hoyt-Reed 10 years, 9 months ago

I try not to bother people who are vegetarians, but vegans drive me crazy. The hens keep laying, and cows and goats can give milk forever. I prefer to buy the non factory farm meat when I can, but sorry, vegans. Humans are omnivores. You are the ones bucking nature, not the meat eaters. Anyone who only eats meat and potatoes isn't healthy and anyone who only eats soy and veggies isn't healthy. It's called moderation in all things.

pomegranate 10 years, 9 months ago

The group, Peta, stands for people eating tasty animals.

plantbasednik 10 years, 8 months ago

Hey Dorothyhr, Actually it's humans who are bucking nature by suckling (even in adulthood) on the lactational fluids of other species. Humans are the only species in creation to do this.

Bubbles 10 years, 8 months ago

ASBESTOS (Anonymous) says:

Our brains are bigger and grew that way because ov evolution and the higher protien content in meat. When we went from gatherer of herbage and started eating meat we evolved.

You buck evolution with your unintelligent post ???

I knew it! Liberals brains ARE smaller.

plantbasednik 10 years, 8 months ago

Apparently spellcheck was left out when your brain evolved.

shockchalk 10 years, 8 months ago

I thought maybe this was an article about late term abortions but it's only people worried about the poor little farm animals that are so tragically abused. A poor calf being "torn" away from it's mother just 48 hours after birth???? It looks like we have our priorities a little off when we worry more about the square footage an animal has to roam than murdering a viable child.

shockchalk 10 years, 8 months ago

Apparently factcheck was left out when your fingers were typing.

shockchalk 10 years, 8 months ago

It's lunchtime everyone......................are you hungry?

Frederic Gutknecht IV 10 years, 8 months ago

Humans are all arrogant and ignorant. Each of us chooses to poison this forum and the earth with our gloriously prescient presence. We all take lives in living. We're all big chickenschist when it comes to accepting death, especially our own. There is nothing terribly horrible about it. There are billions and billions of animal deaths every day. We kill many but it is the causing that is the horror. We destroy variation in the natural world. We've torn the goods from our living. There's nothing much left for earth to give. We give up on evolution in our unnatural quest for... WHAT? Jeepers. Go martyr yourselves, already...or move to your own planet...and take a few billion people with you when you go!~) I don't want to contribute to evolution any more than the rest of you, so leave me here with my free range squirrels and unkempt garden...and a recipe for ice cream...and an air conditioner... Dang! I'm part of the problem!~) Is being for drastic population decrease measures enough of a cause to justify or inspire martyrdom?

shockchalk 10 years, 8 months ago

Quick JJ..........get something to eat. Maybe some eggs, bacon, and a big glass of milk will do the trick.

Leprechaunking13 10 years, 8 months ago

Drinking milk isn't a bad thing, even if we are the only species to do it. We're the only species to do a lot of things. Along with calcium there's also protien in milk. The only bad thing with milk is the hormones they put into it, that's the good thing about organic.

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