Archive for Wednesday, November 14, 2007

City letter supports wetlands SLT route

November 14, 2007


On a 4-1 vote, city commissioners agreed to send a letter to the Federal Highway Administration supporting a 32nd Street route for the South Lawrence Trafficway.

The letter reserved the position of the previous City Commission that had opposed running the uncompleted road project through the Baker Wetlands.

Commissioner Boog Highberger was the lone commissioner to vote against sending the letter. He said wetlands route was too damaging to the environment.

Other commissioners said they supported the route as the most feasible way to complete the needed road project.

Commissioners decided to send the letter, which was talked about last month, even though the Federal Highway Administration already has issued a key report supporting the 32nd Street alignment.


just_another_bozo_on_this_bus 10 years, 7 months ago

Paying off on their campaign contributions once again.

A_Farmer 10 years, 7 months ago

The SLT will soon be irrelevant. The Commissioners, who voted for this, are living in the past when gas was cheap and commuters were moving to Lawrence.

Smart commuters are moving away from Lawrence to be closer to their work. They realize that the price of gas is going to continue to rise. They know that they must sell their homes now before the great exodus begins. When fuel costs become too high, the number of commuters who want to move will cause a glut of homes on the market. That will result in massive loss in equity for those who wait too long to sell. Smart commuters are selling their homes now.

Anyone who still believes that the gas price is going to remain stable is living in a dream world and is not facing the facts: China and India will soon surpass the US in oil usage. Right now, the World's oil reserve is about half what it was when humans started using it. Most of the drop in reserves has been in the last decade. In another decade, the oil reserve may be down to 25%. Soon after that, it will be all but gone. What little is left will be so expensive to produce that gas prices will be too high for most people to afford.

Rapidly expanding demand coupled with rapidly diminishing supplies is a combination that ensures massive increases in the price of fuel. Truck traffic that is now bringing cheap goods from Mexico and China is going to come to a virtual standstill when the transportation costs make it cheaper to buy locally produced goods.

We'd be far better off to put our tax dollars into some kind of mass transit system or, better yet, put them into building factories and farms to produce our own goods. That way, we will be prepared when the cost of transportation makes imports from China and Mexico too high for most people to afford. Having local industries and local food production to supply our needs at a reasonable price will also give the remaining ex-commuters local jobs so they won't need to move and can avoid spending hundreds of dollars each week on gasoline.

Our City Commission is still living in the last century when fuel prices were cheap. They are not looking to the future. All they are going to accomplish by pushing this bad idea is to cause all our taxes to increase for a road that will very soon be irrelevant and essentially useless.

Ragingbear 10 years, 7 months ago

How come it seems that politicians everywhere, even Lawrence, have forgotten that it is their job to represent the people, and not just run things the way they think it should be ran? The people of Lawrence do not want this stupid SLT thing. Yet according to our "elected" officials, we do. Why don't we just recall them all and put true representatives in charge?

toefungus 10 years, 7 months ago

I want this road. The mitigation is a good thing.

kansas778 10 years, 7 months ago

Ragingbear, what makes you think YOU speak for the people of Lawrence? You don't even speak for a majority of ljworld online readers:

The people of Lawrence want the road done, you loons don't have the majority. I wish the city would put it up for another vote, so you all would see just how many people support it.

just_another_bozo_on_this_bus 10 years, 7 months ago

That's like taking a poll of the rapists involved in a gang rape.

kansas778 10 years, 7 months ago

just_another_bozo_on_this_bus (Anonymous) says:

That's like taking a poll of the rapists involved in a gang rape.

You've compared building the highway to genocide, lynching, and now gang rape. I wish you knew how silly you sound, and how much you do to convince people there is no real argument against the highway's construction. Other people have at least tried to make cogent arguments such as the alleged lack of effect on 23rd street traffic, the legality of it, alleged negative environmental impact, the unpopularity of it(discussed on this thread), the purported benefits of a 42nd street route and so on. Your ridiculous analogies only make you look like a loon, and have no constructive value for the purposes of debating the issue.

just_another_bozo_on_this_bus 10 years, 7 months ago

I don't deny that there are many good reasons not to pave the wetlands, K778. I just happen to believe that the monumental disrespect it would show towards Haskell is the greatest reason not to do something that selfish and stupid.

SettingTheRecordStraight 10 years, 7 months ago

Ah, I can smell the blacktop already. Time to lay some road!

Terry Jacobsen 10 years, 7 months ago

No matter what road is built, it will eventually not go south of the city. The city will continue to expand and the roadway will become either a highway through the center of town, or it will become an arterial road. Either way, we need the ability to move traffic. This plan is a good plan and we need to build it now, before the price rises exponentially again. Had we built it back when the rest of the road was built, it would of cost a fraction of what it will cost now.

Boog shows his complete lack of understanding of environmental impact. They built roadways through the everglades in Florida and they are thriving just fine. These are all just excuses to be negative and try and blackmail the average person into thinking that it is "environmental homicide". BUILD THE ROAD. BUILD IT NOW.

just_another_bozo_on_this_bus 10 years, 7 months ago

"Thanks to a few obstructionists costs have skyrocketed and tax payers are stuck paying for the delays"

BS. They spent all their money buying up right of way on the western leg from the speculators who planned this route to begin with. It was their greed and arrogance that has caused the delay.

BTW, this concern about "skyrocketing" costs is just absurd. Sure, costs have gone up, just as everything else has, including tax collections on equally inflated incomes, sales and property.

right_claw_of_the_eagle 10 years, 7 months ago

does anyone see a connection between the small and innocent Lawrence,ks and the opposition to the south Lawrence since the 80's. i mean innocent as when theres a shooting in town here, it still comes as a shock to every resident here; i recognize this by being originally from a large city where anonymity coincides with crime rate.. this town has been trying to build more and more and more, and why, because thats progress? the ones pushing this would probably not stop until they got another Wichita or Topeka in their hands here. When will society progress by creating and writing in a constitutional clause for all decision and laws to fall under and possess ecological admiration. at least thats my view............... or we can keep spreading like cancer

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