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Reesing among Heisman Trophy candidates

Kansas quarterback Todd Reesing, center, and offensive lineman Anthony Collins, left, celebrate with receiver Marcus Henry, right. Reesing threw three touchdowns - all to Henry - in a Saturday, Nov. 11, 2007 43-28 victory at Oklahoma State. Reesing has been mentioned along with other top college quarterbacks as a Heisman Trophy candidate.

Kansas quarterback Todd Reesing, center, and offensive lineman Anthony Collins, left, celebrate with receiver Marcus Henry, right. Reesing threw three touchdowns - all to Henry - in a Saturday, Nov. 11, 2007 43-28 victory at Oklahoma State. Reesing has been mentioned along with other top college quarterbacks as a Heisman Trophy candidate.

November 13, 2007

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Every year in November, the Heisman Trophy Trust sends letters out to some 25 colleges across the country, preparing them for the possibility of having a Heisman candidate on campus.

The letter is congratulatory, first and foremost, a compliment to the school's candidate for having a wonderful football season to date. But it also gives an initial heads-up on what might go down if the ballot box is favorable toward their guy - including preliminary dates to remember for a trip to New York and the award ceremony.

Missouri University received the letter recently, pertaining to quarterback Chase Daniel. Kansas University's sports-information office hasn't, pertaining to quarterback Todd Reesing.

What does that mean? Nothing, really. The winner and finalists are solely in the hands of 924 voters - mostly media members - and none has voted yet. They will get their ballots later this week and will turn them in by Dec. 5.

Reesing is a dark-horse candidate, but that alone is remarkable. An unknown talent on an unknown team just 75 days ago - heck, he wasn't announced as KU's starting quarterback until Aug. 18 - Reesing has spearheaded a 10-0 start for No. 4 Kansas, bringing the program into the national spotlight and putting its top performers among a short list of candidates for various awards.

Reesing claims those individual accomplishments, including his own, mean little to the undefeated run.

"We're not a bunch of superstars on this team," Reesing said. "We'd rather have 22 guys that no one's ever heard of that are winning every ball game than one or two superstars that everyone's focusing on. I think that's a factor of a great team."

Still, with success comes recognition, including the individual variety.

Reesing just happens to be mentioned with one of the most prestigious awards in sports. He joins Chase Daniel and Oklahoma quarterback Sam Bradford as potential Heisman candidates out of the Big 12 Conference, though none is considered a front-runner in the media-fueled spectacle.

The question is, do any of them care?

"I would think if you talked to those three young guys - and I can't put words into their mouth - they'd all take winning over personal accolades," KU coach Mark Mangino said. "Maybe that's why they are so good at what they do."

Reesing never has strayed far from the company line. He's cool and composed when speaking to reporters, never once offering up a quote destined for a bulletin board. Asking him about his Heisman chances would get you nowhere.

But his play is quite another story. Reesing has 2,657 passing yards with 26 touchdowns and four interceptions this season, statistics comparable with mainstream favorites like Oregon's Dennis Dixon and Florida's Tim Tebow.

His win-loss record, meanwhile, trumps them all. That's what is sticking out the most to national pundits with a decision to make.

"It helps Kansas being a non-traditional power," CBS Sportsline columnist Dennis Dodd said. "They're getting so much attention right now. That's what people are talking about."

A Heisman voter himself, Dodd feels Reesing is one of the top five candidates at this point for several reasons. For one, Reesing's touchdown-to-interception ratio compares favorably with most everybody being discussed, and the sophomore's statistics across the board are excellent.

But perhaps more importantly, Reesing hasn't allowed his team to lose yet - something only he and Hawaii quarterback Colt Brennan can tout.

Dodd also has Daniel and Bradford in his top five. Since the Nov. 24 Kansas-Missouri game and the Big 12 championship game still upcoming, it could be awhile before Dodd and others have an idea of whom they'll go with.

But letter or no letter, Reesing is on a semi-short Heisman list with just three weeks left, it appears.

There are 924 votes to be earned. According to one of the voters, Reesing and the Jayhawks have a simple job to do to keep that dream alive.

"They just have to win," Dodd said. "At this point, he has nowhere to go but up."

Comments

DB Ashton 6 years, 5 months ago

Whoa, catch your breath, homies!

Claire is most likely right. So what? The early season schedule Mr Mangino crafted was perfectly appropriate for a team in development and the plan succeeded brilliantly -- I'd imagine even to the coach's own amazement. The strategy has served K-State well in the past, after all, and it continues to enhance Kansas basketball every year as well. There's no shame in working one's way through degrees of difficulty and it doesn't diminish our achievements by admitting it.

As to Arrowhead, a Missouri game there periodically was always a no-brainer and this year's edition, if all goes well, looks to be an utterly sublime experience, win or lose. With one exception: Mr Perkins made a bad deal giving away most of the seats. But who knew we'd want them?

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LAJayhawk 6 years, 5 months ago

Personally, I would like to comment about the article above.

I just sent out an email to some friends on Sunday saying that I hope Reesing starts to get more national attention. He deserves it. Poised and very aware. But his biggest atribute is his tremendous ability to limit the mistakes (as a Bears fan, that concept is a little difficult for me to comprehend... perhaps Rex Grossman should watch some Reesing game film). The one factor of his game I would like to see him work on, though, is allow himself to throw the ball away more often. He has shown on several occasions that he trusts his abilities and that has allowed him to escape tacklers and make tremendous plays. However, it has also caused him to be sacked when he didn't necessarily need to be. I'm glad we have a great playmaker, but if he can learn to walk that ridiculously thin line of "make a play or throw it away" he could become a top tier quaterback and serious heismann contender. Either way, he is a fantastic athlete, great QB, and a good, humble person. Couldn't be happier to call him a Jayhawk.

However, If I hear one more analyst make a "Doug Flutie" reference about him simply because he's short, I may need to shoot someone.....

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Eride 6 years, 5 months ago

"As I said right up front, I'm not a football fan and I'm not from Kansas."

For someone who isn't a football fan you sure know a lot of football statistics and you sure are spending a lot of time posting about football on an online forum... wait... doesn't that MAKE you a football fan?!?

Probably just another Misery fan who is pissed off because the one year Misery is really good KU is even better.

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djgratt59 6 years, 5 months ago

Guys, come on, mathematically,

~100 Div 1 teams, over 100 years, you would expect your team to win 1 national championship during your lifetime (assuming a random, i.e., "equally likely" process). But Div. 1 football is not random. Some teams have a greater likelihood of winning a championship - say, by a factor of 10. So the good teams win (on average) one championship every 10 years, and the bad teams win one (on average) every 1000 years (a rare event). Ergo, since we are seeing Kansas (potentially) win a national championship, they - the Fighting Manginos - , MUST be a GREAT college football team!

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youngitized 6 years, 5 months ago

As far as clare's posts...I'll respond this way

I think Todd Reesing has a statement to make. EOS (End of Story)

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seattlehawk_78 6 years, 5 months ago

Really Claire, your excuses are so pathetic, "I don't even like football." Is that the best you can do. You don't like football so much that you just happened to read the LA Times article. Then you went to the trouble to look up all the statistics to support your argument and go to the LJW and post (at last count) 8 times. All this for a sport you claim you don't like. To top it off you have the nerve to accuse someone of not having any class. What a piece of work you are.

Why don't you go and post some comments on whine.com, insecure.com, or imadbag.com and learn to deal with whatever frustration or emotional issues you are suffering from. We're just fans having fun with our success. If that bothers you so much try doing what most well-adjusted and emotionally secure people do and ignore it.

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commonsense 6 years, 5 months ago

I think the big picture will illustrate that KU had one of the best seasons in its history. Well done Coaches and Players! Even if we lose our next two, it will be a successful season.
But this is why I try to defend my position on the schedule. Remember when people at the end of the season would make fun of Bill Snyder and the Wildcats? He would go 10-0, or 9-1, or 10-2, and want all the respect in the world. No one would give it to him, even my friends who were at the KU games. We'd make fun of their schedule even though they beat us by 40 and we were 5-6. Then what happened? K-State would play an extremely important game (to win the North, the Big XII Title, an important bowl game) that would get them over the hump and they would lose. Remember Purdue? Anyway, what I don't want to see is KU lose to Mizzou and then the national media tear us apart for talking about title contention. As a Kansan, I was embarrassed how they treated K-State because it made "all of Kansas Football" look foolish.
As a KU alum, if we lose, it will be the same thing all over again (The Natiuonal Media making fun and laughing at the Mangino-Snyder Scheduling Philosophy). Schedule at least some type of competition, and we won't be having this conversation. If KU wants credit and respect, then win an early season matchup against a mid-level BCS conference team. Otherwise, the speculation will continue.

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Brandon Devlin 6 years, 5 months ago

Anyone else notice how much of a KU fan Lou Holtz has become? He's been singing our praises since mid-season, and Sunday he did it again. . .

"You can't penalize Kansas for how the conference set up its schedule. This is an excellent football team on both sides of the ball, and I think the Jayhawks are the No. 1 team in the country until someone proves otherwise."

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torcia 6 years, 5 months ago

This is just unbelievable...its like people want KU to apologize for being undefeated.

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Mr_Ramirez 6 years, 5 months ago

"Why are we arguing over how legitimate claireredfield's posts are and not discussing Reesing as an outside chance at a Heisman?"

Good point. Reesing is a stud.

(.........and claire is a loser)

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FrankDrebin 6 years, 5 months ago

I don't think you will see Reesing making the trip to NY for the Heisman show. Possibly by the time he is done here, but definitely not this year. However, it doesn't detract from the season he has had and the fact that he beat out Meier for the position at the beginning of the year. Also, lets tip our cap to Meier whose desire to get on the field in anyway has been a great boost. A nice option as your 4th receiver, he doesn't drop passes, is tough, and keeps the gadget play option in the back of the defenses head. Great job by both of our "QB's"..

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tolawdjk 6 years, 5 months ago

First. Missouri is two weeks away. Who cares about things two weeks away? Right now its a resurgent Iowa State that needs to be focused on. This is an Iowa State team that now thinks it can -win-. Nothing is scarier than a spoiler with nothing to lose. We would do well to remember who we are playing immediately, not who and where we might play tomorrow.

Second. Mangino should be commended for his scheduling. He came from a system where this was proven to give positive results so there is no reason to fault it being implemented here. This has been a program in crisis. A crisis of confedence and a crisis of identitiy. By scheduling who he did, he was building the confedence of his players, proving to them that the system is sound and that their skills are solid. Yes, these are "lower" tier teams, but how was he to know that FIU would be 0-9 right now? He can only win the games he is in, he can't win the other games for his opponent. If Michigan lost to a AA school and people are still clamboring about them having a shot at the Rose Bowl. The possible "Big Ten" champ could have lost to a supposed patsy and instead KU winning the games it should have won by margins it should have won by is somehow a detriment. Mangino had no idea he would be where he is now back then.

Third. Who cares what would have happend in Austin or Norman this year because it didn't happen and wasn't ever scheduled to happen. However, I think if you asked the odds makers today about those supposed games, they would have KU +/- 3 in Austin and probably -7 in Norman.

Fourth. Who gives a rats ass if we don't play in New Orleans? Were we supposed to? Is this Ohio State? USC? The team isn't under achieving here. The program is making steady improvements, we have an amazing -sophmore- QB and a team that is going to return more weapons than it looses while gaining valuable national recognition. We will be going to our first bowl game in years, and more than likely not one of the "forgotten" bowls. Who cares if no one wants to jump on the bandwagon, it leaves more room for those of us that have been through the years of the bad. Frankly, it would be better if the LJW quit all the national championship talk crap and focused on the game of the week.

We still have wood to chop.

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Wilbur_Nether 6 years, 5 months ago

Why are we arguing over how legitimate claireredfield's posts are and not discussing Reesing as an outside chance at a Heisman? (The latter of which, incidentally, is the topic of the article.)

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logicsound04 6 years, 5 months ago

Okay, so KU hasn't played the toughest schedule. There are a few points to note however:

1) First of all, KU's nonconference schedule is damaged incredibly by a single opponent--Florida International and their 0-9 record. While this only counts for one victory on our record, the fact that FIU hasn't won a single game hurts our overall strength of schedule by a disproportionate degree.

2) Second, all this focus on schedule strength mistakenly assumes that the schedule is THE REASON for our success. This isn't a case of an okay team watering down their schedule so that they could eek out an undefeated (or winning) record. It's really unlucky that KU's schedule is so weak in a year when the team looks pretty good on the field. If we'd had even marginally more difficult opponents, people would be giving us more credit (see: Ohio State before this weekend) because I firmly believe that we still would've won.

KU has always played weaker schedules without success:

2004-- Tulsa, Toledo, Northwestern (we went 2-1)

2005-- Fla. Atlantic, Appalachian St., Louisiana St. (we went 3-0 followed by 4 straight losses, proving that the 3-0 was a product of the weak opponents)

2006-- Northwestern State, La.-Monroe, Toledo, S. Florida (we went 3-1 followed by 4 straight losses)

In other words, though our opponents may have been lackluster, the way Kansas beat all of them combined with continued success in conference play should be enough to silence most doubters. Or at least keep non-football fans with too much time on their hands from wasting their time posting about a town and game that they self-proclaim to hate.

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Mackadoo 6 years, 5 months ago

claireredfield says: "And it's so annoying. It's called foolish pride."

What, again, is so foolish about being proud of our hometown football team that has gone 10-0 after decades of mediocrity? It seems the rest of the nation agrees with us by ranking us in the top 5 in all the polls. Not that the nation's opinion matters when you are a true fan -- something you wouldn't know about.

You should try celebrating a fun cause (or celebrating life in general) with tens of thousands of other people sometime. It really is a lot more fun than all of that self-loathing you do.

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penguin 6 years, 5 months ago

In a year when Appalachian State can beat Michigan at Michigan and also we have the most unranked teams knocking off top-5 teams, it is hard to say any opponent is weak. In college football, you play the schedule in front of you. At the beginning of the year, if Cal was on the KU schedule that would have been quite the boost, but it would be dragging us down now. My point being there is no way to predict every outcome. However, victories speak loader than opponents.

Also despite a 6-4 record Central Michigan is currently undefeated in their conference and on their way to the MAC title game. It just means their non-conference schedule was a beast.

This is why most people have a hard time loving college football because pollsters vote on the team based on the name on the front of the jersey before looking at the teams.

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commonsense 6 years, 5 months ago

Lidos,

Although I believe Perkins has done many good things for the Univiersity of Kansas, I also believe he has made some critical mistakes. None will be more costly than the game at Arrowhead if we lose our homefield advantage due to noise. This may seem trivial to some, but a chance to beat our hated rival, win the North, play OU for the Big XII title, and possibly go 13-0 and play for the national title does not seem trivial to me. If it's pro Mizzou (remember that Arrowhead fans got priority seating) and obnoxiously loud when we have the ball, to where it dicatates our snap count, and we lose because of it, I hope Perkins has the stones to comment publicly on his decison.

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Armen Kurdian 6 years, 5 months ago

Claired is missing one obvious point. We haven't lost. Our schedule hasn't been as strong as some other teams, like LSU & Oregon, and they probably deserve to be ahead of us. But we haven't been upset. We've beaten everyone we were supposed to, unlike Michigan, USC, Ohio State...shall I go on?

I'd say there are few KU fans who really think KU should be number one. Who cares right now? We have to beat MU & OU regardless. There's no going around it. No guarantees for any of these three teams. We won four tough road games in the conference, and that should and does count for a lot.

Claired, honestly, it sounds like your posting just to read yourself and throw random grenades. We'll know in three weeks who's going to be Big XII champ, and if that champ will play for all the marbles in January. It's as simple as that.

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Mr_Ramirez 6 years, 5 months ago

Claire- Go back to your Resident Evil message board, loser....

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guesswho 6 years, 5 months ago

I am a huge KU fan, and yes, we had a break in our schedule this (and last) year. Mangino was smart and scheduled easy teams for non-conference. He helped do that at K-State. Guess what, it works! We have wins and it instills a sense of winningness in the team. Hard to say if we would beat OU or Texas this year. We are capable. Almost any team is capable of beating any other team this year. There are lots of upsests - Appalachian State vs. Michigan, for example. Maybe we are overrated, but we'll enjoy it while it lasts.

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claireredfield 6 years, 5 months ago

"There are 3 teams in the top 10, which is great, but the rest didn't fare so well this year, and that hurts KUs credibility. We won our non-conference, but seriously, they should be ripping us for that pathetic scheduling."

Thank you for helping to prove my point. The schedule was weak. As I said right up front, I'm not a football fan and I'm not from Kansas. But I know overblown egos when I see them. And that's what I see here in Lawrence. And it's so annoying. It's called foolish pride. Extra-foolish in this case. Given the reality of the ridiculously weak schedule.

Go Hawks!

(LOL!)

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FrankDrebin 6 years, 5 months ago

The bottom line is this: Do we as fans think KU is one of the best 5 teams in the nation? Probably not. However, since the system in place is subjective and relies on voters to determine who will play in the big game, we haven't given them a reason to lower us in the polls (i.e. we haven't been beaten). Therefore, since there is no playoff system, we deserve to be where we are. You can debate our schedule all you want, but it was the right thing to do to get our program in the position it is today. Don't forget Mangino worked for Snyder at KSU, and the national media forgave them over time and they ended up being one of the top 5 teams consistently in the mid to late 90's. Time will tell what happens here, but there is certainly nothing wrong with enjoying it for now. Clairedfield is in the minority, and should be disregarded. He/she obviously is a Lawrence hater, that is why they chose to live here. GO HAWKS!!

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lildos 6 years, 5 months ago

Let's not forget that Lew Perkins has quite a bit to do with this success too. I personally think he is doing a tremendous job as AD, not only for football and basketball but for all KU sports.

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commonsense 6 years, 5 months ago

First of all, good post YME!

So far, I think KU fans have done OK, considering the fact that in the past, if we won a big game, we tore down the goal posts every chance we got. We should be happy to be number three, and I understand why most people across the country don't respect our team. We can't help the overall performance of the BigXII. There are 3 teams in the top 10, which is great, but the rest didn't fare so well this year, and that hurts KUs credibility. We won our non-conference, but seriously, they should be ripping us for that pathetic scheduling.

Central Michigan 6-4 SE Louisiana 2-8 Toledo 5-5 Florida International 0-9

Our non-conference foes are a whopping 13-26. A win % of .333

Here is our conference schedule, which people can't ridicule, because these games are set on a rotation and have to be played:

K-State 5-5 Baylor 3-8 Colorado 5-6 Texas A&M 6-5 Nebraska 5-6 Oklahoma St 5-5

Our conference foes recorded a less than spectacular 29-35 record. A win % of .453

 Therefore, we have played 2 (TWO of TEN) teams this year with a winning record.  The rest are .500 or well below.  We didn't play Texas or OU, which is not our fault.   So, one can clearly see how people don't respect our ranking.  They may like our team, they may like what we have done this year, they may like the fact that KU came out of no where like so many other teams this year, but they do not have to respect our ranking.  IF WE BEAT ISU, and IF WE BEAT MIZZOU, then we have to prove ourselves against a giant like OKLAHOMA.  Beating a tough team like MIZZOU AT ARROWHEAD, could be difficult and a loss would hurt our BCS bid, even at 11-1 because they will look at the schedule.  MANGINO  (who I like and respect, but disagree with his scheduling tactics)  will take a ton of criticism from that National Media, but it will be clear that KU had one of its finest seasons ever (Remember Bill Snyder, always a bridesmaid and the K-State nation  was apathetically content).   I hope we don't end up like them.  I hope we strive for more.   That being said, we should keep our mouths closed, remain humble, and await the outcome of each game.  If we beat a 3-8 ISU team this weekend, we should still remain stoic, and watch what happens to the rest of the country.    GO HAWKS!
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seattlehawk_78 6 years, 5 months ago

claireredfield, you sure have a low opinion of the Lawrence press. What country do you think you're living in and why do you think that your insignificant words are so important and powerful that someone would actually want to delete them. Get over yourself.

BTW, for someone who claims to not like football, you sure spend a lot of time posting about it. Find a different venue to deal with your personal issues. Your dislike of KU, for whatever petty reasons is just too transparent.

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The_Original_Bob 6 years, 5 months ago

Claire is from Hoboken, New Jersey and hates Lawrence yet won't move away.

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News_to_me 6 years, 5 months ago

Claire, apparently the rest of the country isn't laughing at us or we wouldn't be ranked #4. The Jayhawks may not have earned a shot at the title yet but they HAVE earned their ranking now. And, if they continue to win, they will earn their spot in the national championship game whether you, a self proclaimed non football fan, like it or not.

Obviously, the BCS system has flaws but it is the system we've got. And as far as our schedule, in years past we probably would not have even beat some of the so called weak teams, let alone destroy each and every one of them. I'd say that it compares favorably with Ohio State's trio of games versus Youngstown State (w 38-6), Kent State (W 48-3) and Akron (w 20-2) and they were ranked #1 until last week's loss to Illinois.

So, you continue to be a naysayer and the Fighting Manginos will keep plugging away and the BCS and National Championship will work itself out on the field rather than in your mind.

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scenebooster 6 years, 5 months ago

"LOL! Ha! No. I'm not even from Kansas. I don't even like football - college or otherwise. "

Translation: I'm just a sad and lonely person who wishes she lived in LA. Boo Hoo.

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Jaminrawk 6 years, 5 months ago

If Clairerefield doesn't like football, then why is he reading this story? And since when is the LA Times the authority on anything? How are UCLA and USC doing this year? Are they going to win the national championship? UCLA gave Notre Dame their only win.

No one officially knows how good this KU team is. The only thing we do know is that they have beaten everyone put infront of them despite the fact that the "authorities" predicted them to lose to teams like KSU, Colorado, Texas A&M and Oklahoma State. Despite having the spotlight put on them and being in unfamiliar territory, this team has maintained a business-like approach and dominated the lead most of the year. I have no problems being extremely proud of that.

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yme 6 years, 5 months ago

I find it interesting that even the most die-hard KU fans are not contesting the suppostion that KU got lucky not playing Oklahoma and Texas and couldn't beat an SEC, Big Ten or Big East etc. team. First, Oklahoma may be the overrated team of the big three from the Big 12. They benefited from playing in the southern division which is the weaker half this year. KU and MU have had to wade through Colorado (which beat Oklahoma) and K-State (which manhandled Texas) and even the weaker sisters, Nebraska and Iowa State have proven they can pull off the big win. Meanwhile, in the south, Texas is getting a ton of respect because of their name, yet they barely beat Sam Houston State, lost to KSU and are getting fat off the baby Texas schools (A&M, Baylor). Do we really think that Texas is so imposing that KU would fold like a bad play against them? I don't buy it. Why are we afraid of the SEC? My God, LSU lost to Kentucky and you want to tell me Kentucky is superior to KU? We are afraid of the Big 10? Ohio State got bombed by Illinois, and we know what MU did to them. And Michigan is still playing for the Big 10 title after their outstanding opening game?

Who in the Big East is really that scary? And as for the LA Times, who are obviously pandering to the Pac 10, 11, 12, 13... whatever crowd, who on the left coast is beating the snot out of everyone? Having watch Oregon, they look pretty solid, but not superhumanly good.

As for the Boise State argument, play the game on playstation and let me know, but maybe the Times has a point, albeit not the one they intended, maybe Boise State should have been playing SC last year for the title.

Lets just hope the Hawks take care of business and we can all be traveling in January. Rock Chalk baby.

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Gootsie 6 years, 5 months ago

"I'm not even from Kansas. I don't even like football - college or otherwise"

Clairziee, I AM a huge football fan and I couldn't have written the statistics about Boise State that you did, let alone knowing that KSU played well in 1998, etc etc etc. Sounds like you are either a closet fan or you are the Cut 'n Paste 2007 Queen.

I don't feel our team is full of egos. Just the opposite, actually. The fans, maybe. But we've waited a long time to brag on our football guys.

Stay away from the articles if you don't like football. And let us enjoy our moment. IOW, back off and go comment somewhere else.

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Andini 6 years, 5 months ago

I think Claireredfield might be an alias for Ben H. Barteldes. Just sayin'.

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just_another_bozo_on_this_bus 6 years, 5 months ago

If KU wins its next three games, it can't be said that they did nothing but beat a bunch of patsies, and they deserve to be in the title game.

If they don't win all three games, they won't be in the title game.

So it really doesn't matter where they are rated right now.

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RightinLawrence 6 years, 5 months ago

Kansas fans can't dispute that we do not have schedule strength.

However, what we do have are substantial victories. If we were barely getting by with wins over Toledo and the likes...I would be more in agreement with Claire. However, what Kansas is doing is crushing the teams it should crush, on both sides of the ball. We are beating the lesser competition like a team with a BCS rank of 3rd should be doing.

Are we ultimately for real and can we win those big games? We shall see, but to argue that Kansas is weak because of the schedule is to not see the entire picture.

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lildos 6 years, 5 months ago

"I hope you don't delete this post. Let's see how people try and refute the cold hard facts."

Funny thing is that none of those are facts, but actually counter factuals. We will never know if KU would beat Oklahoma in Norman, or Texas in Austin because we are not playing them. Not our fault, that's just how the schedule works. I am not a Big XII buff but I am pretty sure other team have been benefited from conference play before...

Trying to imagine if KU would win in the SEC or Pac-10 is plain stupid, because that will never happen. Then there is this team that beat this team that beat this team...who cares, head to head is what counts.

Maybe KU is getting benefited from being from a BCS school, but still there get no respect. I am not saying we should be number one, but people keep saying KU is overrated because it hasn't played anyone. I am sorry, but wanting or not, the Big XII is a tough conference, and even losing teams can give you a scare, ask Oklahoma.

As a skeptical KU fan I think we need to cherish the moment and wait and see. The doubters will shut up if KU beats Iowa State (let's not forget them, you never know in the Big XII), MU and Oklahoma, and even if we don't this was still a sensational season.

So keep your cold hard facts to yourself , and if you want to criticize KU go join the people in the national media, that clear have a bias towards the powerhouses, and leave us alone. Until we lose, we are still the race, and we haven't lost yet.

Rock Chalk

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logicsound04 6 years, 5 months ago

"LOL! Ha! No. I'm not even from Kansas. I don't even like football - college or otherwise."


Read as: "I'm just a petty antagonist."

Well claire, thanks for being honest. Now I can ignore your trolling and go about the rest of my day.

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Mr_Ramirez 6 years, 5 months ago

Thats what i thought. You dont have the balls to admit who your squad is.........Typical.

Anonymous hater, jealous of KUs success.

"Claire Redfield is a leading video game character appearing in the Resident Evil series of survival horror games. A nineteen year old college student and motorcyclist,"

So, is Claire your "cyber girlfriend"? LOL!!
You probably even have actual "conversations" with her, huh? Go back to playing warcraft for 22 hours a day.

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logicsound04 6 years, 5 months ago

claire,

What "cold, hard facts" did you include in your post? I all read was a bunch of hypothetical questions like:

-"So is Kansas getting a free pass because it plays in a BCS conference?" -"Is it the same pass Kansas State got in 1998?" -"Does anyone believe that Kansas would be undefeated this season playing in the SEC or Pac-10?" -"Does anyone think Kansas would be undefeated now if it had to play Texas in Austin or Oklahoma in Norman?"

Followed by your OPINION that the answers are yes, yes, no, and no.

You were correct about one thing--we'll never be able to determine if KU this year is better than Boise St. last year. We'll also never know if KU is better than Texas this year. The Oklahoma question will answer itself, so be patient.

As for your implication that KU is only undefeated because they avoided Texas and Oklahoma, in previous years, I would probably agree with your conclusion that it can be assumed that KU would lose to those teams. This year, not so much--I personally think KU would beat Texas, and I think we could beat Oklahoma (again, we'll see in three weeks). Personally, as a Jayhawk fan, I wish Baylor hadn't been on our Big 12 schedule this year. I also wish we could've played Texas so that people like you (who have nothing better to do than complain about an opposing team's national attention) wouldn't have any cannon fodder with which to waste our time.

Finally, I think the issue you are getting at with Boise State is less a problem with KU and more a problem with the good-old-boy network that is college football. Don't hate the player, hate the game.

BTW, you still haven't told us who YOUR team is...

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claireredfield 6 years, 5 months ago

"Claire is obviously a KSU fan and is hating the fact that KU is actually getting some national attention."

LOL! Ha! No. I'm not even from Kansas. I don't even like football - college or otherwise. I just happen to live in Lawrence right now, I've read the national (non-Lawrence) press, and I'm with the rest of the country in understanding that KUs "history making" record is simply due to a weak schedule. My ego isn't on the line. Yours is. It clouds your vision.

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Mr_Ramirez 6 years, 5 months ago

Again, who is your team? We're waiting.........

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FrankDrebin 6 years, 5 months ago

Claire is obviously a KSU fan and is hating the fact that KU is actually getting some national attention. The cold hard facts are that KU cannot get punished for their not having to play OU or Texas. They have beaten everyone on their schedule. This whole argument is stupid anyway. Let the season play out, and if KU wins out including the BIg 12 championship, they WILL be in the championship game. If not they can go to the Cotton Bowl or somewhere else. It wouldn't diminish the season they have had. As for KSU in '98, they deserved to be ranked where they were and if they would have beaten A&M in KC, they quite possibly would have been champs that year. Get over it Claire.

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claireredfield 6 years, 5 months ago

"Great, another douche bag poster. Good one clair. You moron."

You can't refute the argument so you resort to personal attacks? Real class. Lawrence class. LOL!

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claireredfield 6 years, 5 months ago

"I would suggest to you that no true Jayhawk fan cares what the LA Times thinks or says. This is a team that doesn't seem to read all the headlines about them."

So you agree? You would agree that the schedule was weak and the rest of the country (not just the so-called Left Coast) knows it? Yes, it would be best to ignore this reality. It's far too painful.

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ramsrevenge 6 years, 5 months ago

Great, another douche bag poster. Good one clair. You moron.

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claireredfield 6 years, 5 months ago

Clearly, your ego is preventing you and the rest of Lawrence from seeing the truth. Jealous that you simply scheduled yourselves into a 10-0 record by playing a bunch of weak teams? Please. Stop. The rest of the country is laughing at you.

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hesshawk 6 years, 5 months ago

I would suggest to you that no true Jayhawk fan cares what the LA Times thinks or says. This is a team that doesn't seem to read all the headlines about them. However, something negative about the team, or their record, or their schedule written by some honk on the left coast would be bulletin board material. Hang the LA Times article where you can see it Hawks, and then shove it down their throat when the season ends. Rock Chalk forever

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Mr_Ramirez 6 years, 5 months ago

Get a life loser.

Why so jealous?

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claireredfield 6 years, 5 months ago

This 10-0 record is the last thing Lawrence needed. Egos in this town were already overblown and this has sent them into the stratosphere. Get over yourselves already. Important questions for you folks to consider (from the LA Times yesterday) ---

But dare we ask: Is Kansas even better than Boise State was last year and, if so, how would we know?

Boise State finished the regular season 12-0 and ended up No. 8 in the final BCS standings. Boise State beat Oregon State, which beat USC. The Beavers finished with 10 victories in a season that ended with a comeback victory against Missouri (Big 12) in the Sun Bowl.

Boise State finished 13-0 after defeating Oklahoma, the Big 12 champion, in the Fiesta Bowl. For this, the Broncos earned a final Associated Press poll ranking of No. 5.

This year, a win over Oklahoma might put Kansas in the national title game.

So is Kansas getting a free pass because it plays in a BCS conference?

Is it the same pass Kansas State got in 1998?

Does anyone believe that Kansas would be undefeated this season playing in the SEC or Pac-10?

Does anyone think Kansas would be undefeated now if it had to play Texas in Austin or Oklahoma in Norman?

Just so you know, the answers to the questions above are as follows: no, yes, yes, no, no.

I hope you don't delete this post. Let's see how people try and refute the cold hard facts.

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