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One special case has opened the door to a proliferation of outdoor seating areas for downtown bars.

J-W Editorial

November 8, 2007

City commissioners had better start thinking right now of reasons why every drinking establishment in downtown Lawrence shouldn't have an outdoor seating area.

The City Commission's decision on Tuesday to allow the Bourgeois Pig, 6 E. Ninth St., to retain its outdoor seating opens the door to any number of other downtown businesses that want the same privilege.

Up until now, sidewalk seating had only been allowed for businesses that make at least 70 percent of their revenue from food sales. Although the Bourgeois Pig, a coffee shop and bar, doesn't meet that standard, it mistakenly was granted a sidewalk license in the mid-1990s. The problem was brought to the city's attention by the Pig's new owners, who said they had no idea about the license issue when they bought the property.

Commissioners reasoned that because there had been no complaints about the Bourgeois Pig and because it apparently was the city's fault the license was granted in the first place, allowing the license to stand was the right thing to do. However, this seems to be a case where two wrongs don't necessarily make a right.

City officials should brace themselves for a flood of requests from various downtown establishments wanting the same deal that was granted to the Bourgeois Pig. If the 70 percent food requirement is no longer to be in effect, any number of businesses - and particularly bars - are likely to seek outdoor areas.

If Lawrence had a downtown plaza like Boulder's Pearl Street Mall, the additional seating areas might not be a problem, but the existing seating areas already are encroaching on pedestrian space. Of even more concern, however, is the possibility that outdoor seating areas will encourage potentially unruly crowds of alcohol-consuming patrons to gather outside local drinking establishments. Some bar owners have coveted such outdoor areas ever since the city's smoking ban was instituted, and this looks like their chance to get their wish.

Commissioners can take these requests on a case-by-case basis, but Tuesday's decision will leave them open to criticism, or even legal action, if their judgments are inconsistent. Having tossed out, at least in one case, the 70-percent food requirement, they will need to find some other basis on which to regulate outdoor seating areas or risk an undesirable proliferation of such areas.

To that end, the city staff has been instructed to prepare a report on what regulations might be needed to allow bars to add sidewalk seating areas. Staff members and commissioners should tread carefully as they enter this new territory, which could have a significant impact - good or bad - on the ambiance of Lawrence's downtown.

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8 November 2007
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UKept (Anonymous) says…

They should have thought about the 'signfigant impact…on the ambiance of Lawrence's downtown' when they put the smoking ban into effect.
8 November 2007
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northtown (Anonymous) says…

Sidewalk,what does walk mean???Not drink or eat?????Smoke in your car!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
8 November 2007
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aquakej (Anonymous) says…

There's outdoor seating at Henry's too….and probably other coffee shops/bars. What's the big deal with the Pig?
8 November 2007
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OonlyBonly (Anonymous) says…

aquakej - why not reread the article? “sidewalk seating had only been allowed for businesses that make at least 70 percent of their revenue from food sales. Although the Bourgeois Pig, a coffee shop and bar, doesn't meet that standard” which translates into - “it's okay for them therefore it's okay for us” from bars.
Now you don't have to read the article again.
8 November 2007
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FatTony (Anonymous) says…

I say get rid of “the street” part of Mass, make it like boulder or Iowa City and have a Pedestrian Mall. There are plenty of parking options that would be close by. Plus this is Lawrence where everyone walks and rides bikes. Or atleast that seems to be the reason the SLT isn't needed. Seriously though get rid of the street, allow ever bar, restaurant, cofee shop etc, have sidewalk seating. I also believe signs of life has outdoor seating, don't tell me they meet the requirement of food sales.
8 November 2007
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dulcinea47 (Anonymous) says…

Henry's doesn't make 70% of their revenue from food…
8 November 2007
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Marion (Marion Lynn) says…

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm………………………………….

I recall that “somebody” stated *preciesly* his in the first sthread on this topic and that *smebody* was repeatedly told just how full of biosolids he was.

gee

i wonder who that was?

Now, of course we know that the main streets of virtually every European city have gone to Hell because of sidewalk seating in which alcohol consumption is allowed.

Paris, Ft. Lauderdale, Miami, Stockholm, London, Amsterdam, Bankok, Asheville and many oather major cities world-wide have suffered such degradation that no one will go to them any more.

The vacancy of Asheville:

http://www.exploreasheville.com/what-…

The horror of Venice Beach:

http://www.westland.net/beachcam/

The internet is full of images of the devastation wrought by sidewalk cafes which serve alcohol and the most terrifying are those images of sidewalk cafes with……………..umbrellas!

Downtown could well survive as the premier entertainment district of the Midwest, rivaling Westport but as long as the “vision” of the “Progressives” survives, Downtown is doomed.

8 November 2007
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snap_pop_no_crackle (Anonymous) says…

How are things out in Wyandot County, outingbulkerbiz?
8 November 2007
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fraublucher (Anonymous) says…

Come on down and see me sometime.
8 November 2007
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Made_in_China (Paul R. Getto) says…

You are kidding right, Marion - Westport the premier entertainment district of the mIdwest? OMG that's funny. Maybe used to be - it's a dump now.

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