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Kansas unfazed by OU penalty

Jayhawks likely to put asterisk next to loss

Kansas University's Nick Reig, right, and Charlton Keith converge on Oklahoma quarterback Rhett Bomar during last season's game at Arrowhead Stadium. Bomar, booted from the Sooners earlier this year for accepting an improper gift, is awaiting the NCAA's approval to play at his new home, Sam Houston State, a Division I-AA school in Huntsville, Texas.

Kansas University's Nick Reig, right, and Charlton Keith converge on Oklahoma quarterback Rhett Bomar during last season's game at Arrowhead Stadium. Bomar, booted from the Sooners earlier this year for accepting an improper gift, is awaiting the NCAA's approval to play at his new home, Sam Houston State, a Division I-AA school in Huntsville, Texas.

July 12, 2007

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Historical revisionism at Oklahoma University probably won't have much of an impact on Kansas University's football history.

OU was punished by the NCAA on Wednesday, stemming from two former players receiving extra benefits. It included something of a whopper - the Sooners were forced to vacate all eight of their victories from the 2005 season.

Oklahoma plans to appeal the ruling. But for now, the Sooners went 0-4 in the eyes of the NCAA, not 8-4 like it played out on the field. One of OU's poof-they're-gone victories was over Kansas on Oct. 15, 2005, a 19-3 triumph at Arrowhead Stadium in Kansas City, Mo.

The Sooners must reflect the lack of victories in their media guides, record books and recruiting materials. But it means little to KU's similar publications.

"We'll talk about it," associate athletic director Jim Marchiony said, "but there's no changing what happened on the field. We'll talk about it and see what makes sense."

What's most likely is that Kansas will keep a 7-5 record in 2005 in its official documentation. Next to the Oklahoma game will be an asterisk and explanation that the Sooners later vacated the victory.

OU's case isn't without precedent, though past situations have been handled differently by the violators' opponents.

Perhaps the most well-known case involving Kansas was in 1960, when KU beat then-undefeated Missouri, 23-7, in the regular-season finale. The Jayhawks later had to forfeit the game for using an ineligible player, running back Bert Coan.

While Kansas still classifies it as an on-field win and accompanies it with an asterisk, Missouri used the ruling to count the game as an MU victory. The all-time series record now depends on whom you ask - Kansas sees itself having a 54-52-9 edge, while Mizzou lists it as a 53-53-9 tie.

Oklahoma lost scholarships, received recruiting restrictions and was forced to forfeit the games in which quarterback Rhett Bomar and offensive lineman J.D. Quinn played - all 12 in 2005. The two were busted for taking excessive money from a Norman, Okla., car dealership. Both were kicked off the team before last season when the violations were unearthed and since have transferred to Division I-AA schools.

Bomar started at quarterback against the Jayhawks in that '05 game, throwing for 206 yards and a touchdown. Quinn started at right guard.

Comments

PapaB 7 years, 9 months ago

I feel like the NCAA was a little too harsh on the penalties. I mean, one only needs to look at USC at the Dwayne Jarrett incident (he received over $18K in room and board from a booster) and Reggie Bush Scandal (family was given free use of a $750,000 house while he attended USC, among other violations) to see that you can get out by pleading ignorance or by paying people not to talk. Maybe that's what we should have done at KU with our lac of institutional control. I mean, how hard is it to say "I didn't know coaches couldn't take tests or classes for recrutis to get eligible".

The NCAA doesn't make sense. You can't help but like Bob Stoops, he's a class act and always says/does the right things. He deserved a little bit of leniency in this case.

kcchiefmatt 7 years, 9 months ago

Bob Stoops is not even close to a class act. He always says or does whatever it takes to get any type of advantage he can on the football field. This case shows you how he competes with Texas for recruits. He is the most arrogant coach in college football along with his mentor Steve Spurrier.

Fred Whitehead Jr. 7 years, 9 months ago

Well, where was the NCAA when a Pac 10 official blew a call in the Oregon game last fall and cost OU the game? The Pac 10 did investigation, the official resigned, and the game should have been deleate or "revised". But where was the NCAA with this travisty???

kcchiefmat, I know you Nebraska fans are our nemesis, but we do not denigrate your coach. Bobby Stoops is a great coach and performs his job he was hired to do, build a winning football program and win games. This crap about two kids getting too much money affecting a whole year's work for hundreds of student athlets and thousands of us OU fans is simply disgusting. It had no effect on all the hard work and effort that was spent on a fine season, which still exists regardless of the jerks posturing and preening in the NCAA offices holding down their chairs. It is meaningless and crass, just another reason that agency needs to have a complete housecleaning.

kcchiefmatt 7 years, 9 months ago

Frwent, I'm not a Nebraska fan, I graduated from KU. You can rip Bill Calahan all you want because I don't like him either. Poor Bobby Stoops

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