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Body found at Oliver Hall; no ‘outward signs’ of foul play

December 8, 2007

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An unattended death is being investigated at Kansas University.

A body was found in a room on the seventh floor of Oliver Hall dormitory Saturday afternoon.

The Kansas University Public Safety Office is in the early stages of investigation, according to Todd Cohen, KU spokesman. Cohen said officers stated there are no outward signs of foul play.

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saxplayer24 6 years, 10 months ago

bullet holes at Mrs. Es Dining Hall over Fall Break, again two weeks later, and now somebody (according to the posts above) dead with foul play suspected...what is the University doing!?

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jedifunk 6 years, 10 months ago

saxplayer, this was not a suicide or a homicide, and the shooting at Mrs. E's is not related. As a KU student, I feel very safe.

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saxplayer24 6 years, 10 months ago

Obviously the incidents aren't related, I wasn't trying to imply otherwise. However, if you go to the Fox TV channel in KC's website they are portraying this as a possible foul play incident. Unfortunately KU's PSOffice is just as incompetent now as it was when I went there. There's a difference between being lenient on students for small things, ie; rolling stops, no turn signal, etc., but they really need to get their act together. I grew up in Topeka, and to have a police unit that is more incompetent than them takes effort, I believe KU PSO has done that.

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jedifunk 6 years, 10 months ago

Oh, alright, I see what you mean. Apologies! I do wish KU would address this more quickly; the whole campus is abuzz and rumors are running rampant.

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GretchenJP 6 years, 10 months ago

An unattended death? As opposed to an attended one I suppose. Interesting wording.

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maxcrabb 6 years, 10 months ago

"Unattended Death" simply means no doctor or medically related official witnessed the death. I would imagine it means the person was found dead at the scene, and no means of resuscitating was possible.

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Curtis Lange 6 years, 10 months ago

Right before Finals too. Coincidence?

RIP. Too young to die.

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Terry Jacobsen 6 years, 10 months ago

News said that this Freshman grew up in Lawrence. I know a number of the kids that graduated from Lawrence High School and Free State this last year. How sad, this is awfully young to have your life be over. My prayers go out to the family

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kerplunkr 6 years, 10 months ago

This is definitely a sad story. My condolences to the family, whomever they may be. However, I'm beginning to think that 7th floor of Oliver may be cursed. When I was a freshman, there was a girl who hanged herself on 7. While she didn't die that night, she died a few months later due to brain damage. The next year, I was an RA and we had a kid fall out of a window from 7. That was truly unfortunate.

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bearded_gnome 6 years, 10 months ago

suicide?

entirely too many suicide deaths this community, it is epidemic and we've gotta do some things different folks! 2% for art? no, 2% for life, get a fully staffed lmh mental health ward, improve the protocol, get necessary staff! if we want it bad enough, we will make it happen!

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Richard Heckler 6 years, 10 months ago

Too bad the state legislators allowed the Menninger Clinc to fold.

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jedifunk 6 years, 10 months ago

I went to high school with this person, and while I didn't know him, he was too young to die. There are many former Firebirds currently at KU, and we are all praying for his family. I don't believe it was a suicide. I'm looking at his baby ad in my yearbook right now...so sad.

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kugirl334 6 years, 10 months ago

This death is very disturbing. I have attended school with him since I was young, and was shocked by the news. I know he will greatly be missed, and I pray it is a wake up call to those who were close friends of his. You're in my heart.

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anonymous3 6 years, 10 months ago

I went to elementary school and high school with him as well. While we were never really close, this incident still hits close to home. I just can't believe that cute boy I grew up with in grade school is gone. I wish his family and friends strength to get through this extremely tough time.

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saxplayer24 6 years, 10 months ago

No problem, I just get frustrated by the lack of comptetence at KU PSO and the lack of real reporting at the LJWorld

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Please_note 6 years, 10 months ago

It "states above" that there were no signs of foul play. Besides, what does this have to do with campus police?

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Dwight_Schrute 6 years, 10 months ago

Please_note - you are correct, it has nothing to do with campus police. Saxplayer is not informed here and is commenting on something he/she knows little about. And you are correct, according to the brief article, no foul play is suspected. Sax needs to sleep the drunk off and get back to normal life.

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kustu4evr 6 years, 10 months ago

As someone that lives in Oliver with him and has been close to the investigation. The death was an accident and it was suicide or homicide so that talk can stop right now. I feel the same level of security I felt before this incident occured. I think we all need to stop with the crazy rumors and just wait for the story to unfold

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jonas 6 years, 10 months ago

Sadly, as we have to keep talking, crazy rumors are sometimes all we have to offer.

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saxplayer24 6 years, 10 months ago

Dwight why would I want to sleep the drunk off? That would make life a lot less fun. But....Glad to hear that I am wrong though. It is unfortunate that somebody died at such a young age. Hopefully whatever the cause my prayers go out to the family.

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somebodynew 6 years, 10 months ago

First - my sympathies to family and friends on this tragic event.

Next - Thanks for all the posters on here for maintaining some semblence of decorum in their comments (except for the wild/stupid rumors). I read the article in The Star this morning and was completely Shocked by the comments allowed to be posted. And I am not easily shocked at my age.

So I guess, I also have to thanik the LJW for mostly monitering this forum and not letting posts like the Star does. And it is not often I complement the LJW.

Posters - Keep in mind there are a lot of reasons someone dies at a young age, so don't feed the rumor mill - just give good thoughts about the guy who died and his family. Don't stoop to the tastelessness of some of the other people.

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whitster 6 years, 10 months ago

Skyler was a great friend, and didn't deserve to go this young. It was not suicide, and definitely not homicide. To all that know him, this is very sad. Skyler had alot of friends and knew so many people. He had a bright future ahead. I'm not going to say exact cause of death, because its not my place to do that...but for other people who know, take this as a lesson...I know I wont forget it.

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lstau2 6 years, 10 months ago

He was actually a really really good friend of one of my absolute best friends. He called her the night before this accident happened, and she didn't answer. She believes she was the last one he called before this accident.(just after calling some of his other friends and they didn't have a call from him) and although this statement could be incorrect,it could very possibly have been a suicide, or just an accident with some of his experimenting. He was a very nice guy though, and my apologies go out to his family.

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vhawk 6 years, 10 months ago

Skyler, you will be greatly missed. RIP.

My prayers are with your family.

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ti62421 6 years, 10 months ago

We all miss you skyler.

I would appreciate it if nobody else that did not know him would continue any insensitive remarks that have been made. This is a real person and we have no idea how he died so talking about suicide and drugs when you don't even know him is rude to him and to all of his friends.

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bearded_gnome 6 years, 10 months ago

once again, merrill, you continue your fixed rigid tradition of posting liberal spam to the comment threads.
the menninger clinc [sic] was private, so the legislature couldn't do anything to force them to stay, though I know you think they should have socialisticly taken their corporation, private property, and made it entirely subject to the government.


indeed, lets show care here, as more is not known than is known, even those who think they might have inside info, their info is only partial incomplete and very early in the process.

my only reason for mentioning suicide was that if it were suicide, I have a particular concern for changing this community's response to suicidal persons. students on the KU campus have better access to mental health services than do members of the general public.

God be with his family and friends and those in Oliver, this is a tragedy and nothing less.

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saxplayer24 6 years, 10 months ago

good point...most people on here are glass half-full for a reason though, this is the LJWorld afterall.

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whitoenay 6 years, 10 months ago

RIP skyler! my heart goes out to the family and friends. you were an awesome guy and i loved hanging out with you, you always put a smile on my face!

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lstau2 6 years, 10 months ago

I actually do know him. My comments were not to hurt anyone that was closer to him... My best friend was his best friend.. They've been pretty close this whole semester, and were friends all through high school. I'm sorry it offended you,but when his friends told me, that is what they said. As I phrased it I THOUGHT I said that it was not proven, but a though, but that was what I was told. My best friend is very torn up over this incident. So once again, sorry if you believe that my comment was rude, it was just the statement I was given. And I just wanted to state that I did indeed KNOW him. I wasn't best friends with him, but I was an acquaintance of his.

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Newell_Post 6 years, 10 months ago

If it wasn't suicide and no foul play is suspected, then what was it? How about it KU or LJW? I lived on the seventh floor of Oliver about a million years ago and nobody just spontaneously died of natural causes or old age when I lived there.

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Ronda Miller 6 years, 10 months ago

Let us not blame the LJW for lack of information. When it comes to investigation, which there always is with an unattended death, there is no news for the LJW to report. I would rather hear nothing than to have false information. That gets us no where. As far as no foul play and no suicide, then what is it? I can think of numerous things; experimentation with drugs, accidental overdose, the heart muscle catching a cold, stroke, heart attack (yes, those can happen to anyone at any age), all kinds of other illness.

Our love to his friends and family - all of those who knew him as the wonderful person he was.

We do need to step forward when we see friends in trouble of any kind, but with that said, there are so many things that happen in our world that we do not know the reasons for - and may never know the answers.

It is nice that all of you care enough to be on this site blogging. Best wishes!

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sunshinedaydream 6 years, 10 months ago

istau2...i don't think your best friend was best friends with this boy because i indeed know his best friend. and ti is very appropriate in asking that insensitive questions of suicide stop, because skyler would never do that...even though he was having trouble he is smarter than that. my heart and strength go out to his family. i hope everyone truly realizes what a special, loving, wonderful, nice person skyler was. he will forever be in my heart.....one love...s.h.p

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a2thek 6 years, 10 months ago

Let's put this whole thing to rest with how he died. It wasnt suicide. I will just come out and say it since everyone wants to speculate and the KU Pd doesnt have a backbone to come out and say. He Od'ed on Heroin. That's the facts so everybody can relax now and quit trying to guess at it. He had about 25 times the normal amount in his body or an amount that probably would have killed an elephant. Not to make this a buzzkill for everybody that doesnt want to hear the truth but there it is. My source works with me and it a friend of the family and has talked to his parents.

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Adrienne Sanders 6 years, 10 months ago

a2thek- I'm pretty sure it'd be impossible to take in 25x a normal dose of heroin, b/c you'd be dead long before you could inject or inhale that much. Regardless of that exaggeration, my condolences to this young man's friends & family.

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whitster 6 years, 10 months ago

Istau2--I know who you are referring to as his best friend and yours. They were NOT best friends, and thats obvious because otherwise she wouldn't have ignored his call, and secondly, you would both know it couldnt be suicide. That is disrespectful to assume he would do such a selfish thing by taking his own life, and post it for others to see. For people who REALLY knew skyler, I'm sure you can still hear his laughter, and picture him dancing like a free bird. If you dont know for sure what happened, then dont say anything...you have a sensitive audience here, so have some respect. To all that have, thank you.

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madness 6 years, 10 months ago

skyler man, i love you kid, im sorry this happend.. you are such a good person and are loved and missed by everyone who knew you. for skylers family, you are in my prayers and i send you my love. you will never leave my heart.

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a2thek 6 years, 10 months ago

I dont mean to be insensitive or otherwise pointblank but it is important to know the truth in life so all this talk can be put to rest with how he died. I think we all need to move forward with celebrating his young life and the things he did when he was here. I wont say anymore about the cause being I know it is a highly sensitive time and the paper i'm as well as family when they are ready to share the info will share it with who they desire. But please dont call me a liar when it does come out and the toxicology report comes out. Later-RIP

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badger 6 years, 10 months ago

Poor kid.

Whatever it was, I wish him peace and rest.

The roommate of a good friend of mine died her freshman year at KU; it was really a hard thing for her to handle.

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kate35 6 years, 10 months ago

i miss skyler. He is the most genuinely nice person i've met. Every little thing about him I will remember. It makes you realize how fragile life actually is. I give my prayers to all his other friends and family, i cant even imagine what you're going through.

For those of you making assumptions about this and that and what happened. STOP. If you dont know skyler, then why do you even care? Why does everyone insist on being in other people's business? If it doesn't effect you, then don't worry about it. He didnt commit suicide, so get that out of your head.

RIP skyler, see you when my time comes and for the time being, keep making everyone in heaven smile :)

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Casey_Jones 6 years, 10 months ago

b3- Even if he had killed himself, still, somebody died. How can you be so insensitive? Skyler meant so much to so many people. If you can't say something respectful then just don't say anything at all. This isn't any of your business anyway.

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Casey_Jones 6 years, 10 months ago

Why would somebody mindlessly praise a loser? Just because it's a forum doesn't mean it's okay to be disrespectful.

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Tychoman 6 years, 10 months ago

b3, beobachter, I'm speechless. The article says nothing about suicide or drug involvement. I'm shocked at two things: that you would come to such a conclusion due to a ridiculous stereotype about male college students; and that you would dare comment with your own assumptions and cold-heartedness when this forum is clearly a place for people to place memorial messages for the deceased.

You two disgust me. B3, you've written some pretty nasty, shortsighted things before, but this takes the cake. Show some respect for the people that knew him and bug off.

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whitoenay 6 years, 10 months ago

i don't understand how and why people can be so rude! skyler was loved by soo many people! he would brighten people's faces when everyone was down just by walking into the room! i agree with americorps, from what i've seen you are a sad sick little person b3. what happened to him doesn't make him a bad person, because skyler was a GREAT, wonderful, beautiul guy. i've known him for quite sometime now and i loved being around him, he just made everyone so happy.

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Haiku_Cuckoo 6 years, 10 months ago

I'm sorry to hear about this young man's death. It seems odd, however, that so many people here claim to have cared about him and yet he died alone and wasn't helped with his problem. Could this situation have been avoided?

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Haiku_Cuckoo 6 years, 10 months ago

Let me clarify me previous comment. I'm not laying blame with anyone. I'm just saying that we need to be mindful of our friends' needs. Some people conceal their problems well; sometimes it's good to "be nosey" and ask them if everything's okay. My thoughts go out to the family and friends of the young man.

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whitster 6 years, 10 months ago

I think that you are sick, b3. You dont even know Skyler, yet you feel the need to keep bashing him. Do you have some sick addiction to giving your opinion on every article on this site? Stick to the people you know...not innocent people you have no idea about. If the situation was flipped, you wouldnt be acting like this. You would be sad for your friend. Sad how many people in this world are as insensitive and outright rude as you.

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angstew 6 years, 10 months ago

I didn't know Skyler very well, but i work very closely with his mother and used to work with his aunt. This is a huge tragedy and my thoughts and prayers go out to his family. They are a very close family. Skyler can now be at peace.

For those that want to slander the dead... "A great many people mistake opinions for thoughts." -Herbert V. Prochnow regardless of how Skyler died, the family is in pain and that alone should be enough to keep your nasty opinions to yourself and have a little respect...public forum or not. it is about principle and tact. Most of the people here are posting to give their condolences to the family or to remember Skyler. Your lack of empathy is quite disgusting and cowardice. Strong are the ones whose hearts are whole.

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ann1 6 years, 10 months ago

a2tk, it is important to hear the truth but we don't need to hear it from someone we don't even know maybe you shouldn't of even said anything because its none of your business you should of just had respect and waited for his family to tell people. You have no right to just come out and say that. A lot of people on here have been very disrespectful.

R.I.P Skyler Hayes Price, i love you and will always remember you!!

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notobsessed 6 years, 10 months ago

Really, it is none of our business how he died. Just to die so young means so many missed opportunities, so many joys and sorrows not experienced, so many beautiful things never to be known. Life is not always fun, but some of the good stuff along the way makes it worth it.

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lildos 6 years, 10 months ago

Haiku_Cuckoo hit a point that is very important. In understand that this is a tough time for friends and family and I am by no means trying to blame someone for his death, but it is interesting how he had so many "friends" but yet he died alone.

I am assuming the reports of overdose are coming from people close to the situation, so I am assuming that this is what happened. If this is what happened this must be seen as a tragic eye-opener for his friends, and for anyone that has friends and family members that struggle with dependency.

So I hope that his friends and family are able to cope with this lost, but most importantly let's put this in perspective and think about the number of people that we know that could have experienced the same problem and most of us have done nothing.

This message is not intended to the friends and family members of Skyler, but to everyone that can make a difference in the life of somebody that is struggling with drugs, alcohol, gambling, and any other addictions. May his death mean something to everyone, for if this helps save even one life, he may not have died for no reason.

Again, I apologize if this offends anyone close to him, but this is an issue that needs to be discussed, and it is many times brushed under the rug in most families and friend circles.

May he rest in peace.

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lexkamikaze 6 years, 10 months ago

illegal drugs my ass b3, you're ridiculously cruel. it was probably the result of LEGAL pharmaceuticals rather than something illegal. shut your ignorant mouth.

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sunshinedaydream 6 years, 10 months ago

b3 kiss my ass...you are a sad sorry little person.

also haiku_cuckoo i agree that it is good to be nosey sometimes...it may have saved his life, but there is nothing we can do now and we can't dwell and ponder all of the "what i could have dones". because there is nothing we "could have done"... now we just need to remember all of the good times we had with skyler and let our memories help heal our hearts.

please know, skyler, you will forever be in my heart and in the hearts of many others who loved you. i'll miss you and i can't wait until i get to see your beautiful glowing face again....one love

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kugirl334 6 years, 10 months ago

Lets put this BS to rest. Celebrate him as a person when he was alive. Death is nothing to joke or be cruel about. If you don't know Skyler personally, the rude comments are not appreciated. He was an amazing person and it is sickening to me that anyone would be hateful towards a young man's death. Come on people, have a little respect. R.I.P. I love you.

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kugirl334 6 years, 10 months ago

As far as him being a "loser," sometimes it is hard to fully understand a problem, if that is what is being assumed by most people, until something tragic like this happens. This is a very sad situation but something positive can come from it. Maybe people/friends will start realizing a "problem" before it gets too far.

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whitster 6 years, 10 months ago

A loser? You obviously had no idea of who he was. Doing drugs doesnt make anybody a loser. In fact, making jokes and assumptions about a death makes a person more of a loser. I know alot of people worried about Skyler, and said things to him from time to time. You also have to realize there are lines that you just can't cross. A person can't get help unless they admit they need it, and ask for it. None of us were in a position to tell his parents, or authorities to get him help. That is his decision. So for the people saying no one did anything to help, stop making us feel bad. It is not our fault this happened. As a matter of fact, no one should be put at fault for any of this. This is not the time or place for it. Once again, if you're going to be rude and insensitive, please do not leave comments. On top of that, I bet you (beobachter) know someone who does drugs. If this situation was flipped on them, I highly doubt you would call them a loser, and neither would we. Have some respect, karma is a bitch and there is no escaping it.

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Victor Dawson 6 years, 10 months ago

I think we all need to have some respect for the passing of this young man however it occurred and some respect for his grieving family and friends. This is not the time to be joking and making unfounded allegations at some sick attempt to humor. My prayers and warm thoughts go out to his family (whom I know) and his friends.

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Tychoman 6 years, 10 months ago

b3, your purely malicious remarks should be grounds for losing your account privileges. You've done nothing but make ridiculous assumptions about someone you never met, and are taking advantage of people's grief and throwing it in their face. You coward.

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RLride 6 years, 10 months ago

The memorial get-together held at Skyler's parents' house last night was beautiful. So many family members, friends, and acquaintances were present and it was truly a time to celebrate this young man's life and not fixate upon the cause of his tragic death. I went with my brother and a couple of his friends and don't regret it--I felt honored to be a part of this special event.

Skyler, I didn't know you personally but wish you the best in the afterlife. R.I.P.

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a2thek 6 years, 10 months ago

Acute heroin overdose is a common daily experience in the urban and suburban United States and accounts for many preventable deaths. Heroin acts as a pro-drug that allows rapid and complete central nervous system absorption; this accounts for the drug's euphoric and toxic effects. The heroin overdose syndrome (sensitivity for diagnosing heroin overdose, 92%; specificity, 76%) consists of abnormal mental status, substantially decreased respiration, and miotic pupils. The response of naloxone does not improve the sensitivity of this diagnosis. Most overdoses occur at home in the company of others and are more common in the setting of other drugs. Heroin-related deaths are strongly associated with use of alcohol or other drugs. Patients with clinically significant respiratory compromise need treatment, which includes airway management and intravenous or subcutaneous naloxone. Hospital observation for several hours is necessary for recurrence of hypoventilation or other complications. About 3% to 7% of treated patients require hospital admission for pneumonia, noncardiogenic pulmonary edema, or other complications. Methadone maintenance is an effective preventive measure, and others strategies should be studied.

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OliverHall 6 years, 9 months ago

All of you people should be ashamed and embarrassed of mindlessly talking about the death of someone you didn't know anonymously behind a computer screen. Its disgusting.

Rest in peace Skyler, you were an awesome guy and we're all going to miss you dearly.

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a2thek 6 years, 9 months ago

"Let's put this whole thing to rest with how he died. It wasnt suicide. I will just come out and say it since everyone wants to speculate and the KU Pd doesnt have a backbone to come out and say. He Od'ed on Heroin. That's the facts so everybody can relax now and quit trying to guess at it. He had about 25 times the normal amount in his body or an amount that probably would have killed an elephant. Not to make this a buzzkill for everybody that doesnt want to hear the truth but there it is. My source works with me and it a friend of the family and has talked to his parents."

This infomation is not 100% correct and I would like to take some time to apologize for any mis-information. The guy that works with me I overheard in the bathrool making this speculation of what actually happened so I dont know if it's actual fact or hearsay. I do once again dont want to draw any lines or conclusions being I really dont know anything about all of it and I think the guy at work was just an aquitance and went to school with the guy and that's what he heard. I guess when a autopsy is performed that will get you the answers that your looking for. Sorry for all the misleading info once again.

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classclown 6 years, 9 months ago

Don't be so harsh on him Kathy. The very news organization that runs this site he blogged on doesn't bother with facts and verification, so why should we demand more of it's readers?

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pissedinlawrence 6 years, 9 months ago

"enforcer" or kathy, you need to stop being mean. you are NOT an "enforcer" get over it.

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