Archive for Thursday, August 23, 2007

NAACP official: Let Vick play again

NFL urged to allow QB to return after serving sentence

August 23, 2007


— An NAACP leader said Michael Vick should be allowed to return to the NFL, preferably the Atlanta Falcons, after serving his sentence for his role in a dogfighting operation.

"As a society, we should aid in his rehabilitation and welcome a new Michael Vick back into the community without a permanent loss of his career in football," said R.L. White, president of the NAACP's Atlanta chapter. "We further ask the NFL, Falcons, and the sponsors not to permanently ban Mr. Vick from his ability to bring hours of enjoyment to fans all over this country."

White said the Falcons quarterback made a mistake and should be allowed to prove he has learned from that mistake.

On Monday, Vick said through a lawyer that he will plead guilty to a federal charge of conspiracy to travel in interstate commerce in aid of unlawful activities and conspiracy to sponsor a dog in an animal-fighting venture.

Three Vick associates have pleaded guilty to the conspiracy charge and say Vick provided nearly all the gambling and operating funds for the "Bad Newz Kennels" dogfighting enterprise. Two of them also said Vick participated in executing at least eight underperforming dogs, raising the possibility of the animal-cruelty charges.

Last month, state and local leaders of the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People urged the public not to rush to judgment in the Vick case. The civil rights organization said animal rights groups, talk radio and the news media were vilifying the embattled athlete and that his team and corporate sponsors were prematurely punishing Vick.


Crossfire 10 years, 1 month ago

National Association for the Advancement of Criminal People Gambling and racketeering charges pending...?

White said the Falcons quarterback made a mistake... This mistake went on for six years. That is 2190 days making the same mistake.

He did not do this alone. Other players and coaches had to know. After he drops the dime on his team-mates I doubt he will be welcome back to the stadium or the Atlanta Underground.

Bubbles 10 years, 1 month ago

National Association for the Advancement of Colored People obviously have a very low social standard for the Blacks that they represent. The rest of society is trying to pull Blacks up out of the gutter but the NAACP keeps beating them back down.

What a bunch of useless self serving low lifes.

waydownsouth 10 years, 1 month ago

Why what he does in his personal life be punishable in his professional life. You would hate to be fired for what you do in your own home. But the rules are always different for the NFL. Had it been a movie star they would still be making movies. And people would still go see them. Same for singers. But a football player or a basketball player and everyone wants to hang them at the stake. Yeah he got caught and he will be charged justice served.

kmat 10 years, 1 month ago

Losing his sports career has nothing to do with being convicted of a felony. It's the fact the he's a sick, sick man that obviously enjoyed hurting animals.

What's the common thread amoungst serial killers? They all started out injurring and killing animals.

How can anyone support a person that enjoys and makes money from killing dogs? This guy was worth millions and had a career that very few can get, but chose to fight and kill dogs. We know it wasn't for the money, so obviously he's a sick, nasty man.

packrat 10 years, 1 month ago

I quit the NAACP almost 10 years ago. I was called a traitor at the time.

Everytime I read something like this, I am affirmed in my decision.

Bubarubu 10 years, 1 month ago

@waydownsouth: "Why what he does in his personal life be punishable in his professional life."

Because the contract he signed says so. Both the team and the league have the right to void his contract for conduct detrimental. Certainly federal conviction on dogfighting and gambling charges would qualify. There are plenty of careers beyond professional sports where personal conduct is punishable in the professional realm.

TheOriginalCA 10 years, 1 month ago

I am a big believer in second chances. Michael Vick deserves a second chance.. AFTER he repays his debt to society and is rahabed to the point to where he is safe to re-enter society. If he still has playing years left at that point, then yes, let him back in the NFL.

Emily Hadley 10 years, 1 month ago

I saw a cable news show talking about how disturbing this was, because the extreme nature of the alleged acts suggested that Vick had violent tendencies and could be dangerous outside of dog fighting. They both seemed overwhelmed, horrified, and baffled by his violent potential.

I thought it was absurd that neither of the two women discussing the topic mentioned or seemed to conceive any connection between these violent tendencies and his career in American football, which is considered a barbaric sport by most people around the world.

I think that, regardless of whether one enjoys watching football, it is obvious that the level of aggression required in that sport takes a specific personality, and guys who play football at all levels -- a sport in which your skin will literally split on impact if not taped, shielded, and padded -- tend to be very physically aggressive and often violent. I have certainly seen it first hand in junior high, high school, and college football players.

aeroscout17 10 years, 1 month ago

Oh yeah, like prison actually rehabs anyone...

yourworstnightmare 10 years, 1 month ago

It is too bad that the NAACP has resorted to mindless defending of any african american and strayed away from thoughtful representation and advocacy.

Does the NAACP really want to be on record as defending Michael Vick in this case? Especially when the NFL has explicit rules about player conduct?

ralphralph 10 years, 1 month ago

Even if you leave out the part of maiming and killing dogs, and even if it were not a felony, Vick needs to be barred. Why? He was running a criminal gambling operation. How hard is this, really?

waydownsouth 10 years, 1 month ago

A few years ago people protrayed Pitbulls as a violent and vile dog. Noboday wanted them next door because they were unpredictable. Bans all across the US went up in neighborhoods that you can not have these dogs as pets. Unless you lived in the country. Alot of places in Lawrence you can have them and a few others. When Floyd Boudreaux was caught very few said anything about all the dogs and puppies that were put down. Now sombody is caught fighting these very dogs and now everybody feels sorry for the pit bull. Bet you all want to save the chickens in cock fighting too. Serve them for dinner tonight maybe?

Tony Kisner 10 years, 1 month ago

What did MLK say? Judge a man not by the color of his skin but the content of his character? Is that what RLWhite is doing here?

kneejerkreaction 10 years, 1 month ago

Animals don't intentionally kill in the wild. It's not in their nature, they simply want to dominate, usually for territorial & reproductive reasons. Do an Internet search and find out what Vick and others have to do to these animals to make them kill. Then tell me if you want Vick given a second chance.

Confrontation 10 years, 1 month ago

I find Vick's torture of animals to be absolutely disgusting and don't care if he ever sees another game. However, I still want to see this type of outrage towards those athletes who beat their wives. Why do most people value women less than dogs? Sad.

gogoplata 10 years, 1 month ago

NAAWP The National Association for the Advancement of White People.
That sounds racist.

kneejerkreaction 10 years, 1 month ago

NAAPM - National Association for the Advancement of Praying Mantis - it's time we stopped discriminating against these bugs.

mick 10 years, 1 month ago

What does this have to do with race? It doesn't do much for the credibility of the NAACP.

gogoplata 10 years, 1 month ago

NAAP - National Association for the Advancement of People. Much better.

If it involves a group for the advancement of a specific race must have something to do with race.

TheHeartlessBureaucrat 10 years, 1 month ago

I think the NAACP was just making sure that due process was observed. Not so much a race card, but a strong presence to make sure that things were done right. Now...will a poor african american get the same coverage? Heck no.

In my opinion, if he were working as a school teacher or raising kittens or doing something where certain demeanor was required, then yes, he should lose his job. But his job is to act aggressively toward an opponent. It is in his job description to put the proverbial "smack down" on folks who his coach tells him to. (forgive my ignorance if that's not true in the playbook) But if you're going to be a cruel, primitive and heartless individual, this seems like the right job.

And NO, I'm not saying that football players are cruel, primitive or heartless by nature. We all are. But most of us, including most pro athletes, can control it. If these charges turn out to be true, it might be an indicator that he cannot control these impulses.

So, NO, I think he should keep his job.


kneejerkreaction 10 years, 1 month ago

It was the head of the NAACP in Atlanta that said he should keep his job. The acting head of the National Chapter was much more prudent in saying that it should be up to NFL Officials.

Godot 10 years, 1 month ago

People say that Vick has not lived up to his potential as a football player. Could be that he intentionally played badly, depending on how he placed his bets.

craigers 10 years, 1 month ago

I have to give you props on that one Agnostick.

Godot 10 years, 1 month ago

The NAACP did not come out in favor of a second chance for Pete Rose. All Pete did was bet on other games; as a result, when he was found out, his career was ruined.

Bubbles 10 years, 1 month ago

Just a little perspective comparing a dog killer to a human killer.

Bubbles 10 years, 1 month ago

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Height: 6 ft 3 in (1.91 m) Weight: 263 lb (119 kg) National Football League Debut 1998 for the St. Louis Rams Career Highlights and Awards First-team All-SEC (1997) First-team All-American (1997) Pro Bowl selection (2003)

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Godot 10 years, 1 month ago

Bubbles, very interesting perspective. NFL is vile.

jonas 10 years, 1 month ago

"White said the Falcons quarterback made a mistake and should be allowed to prove he has learned from that mistake."

Bah! He didn't commit a mistake at all. He knowingly and intentionally tortured animals to the point that they were willing to kill each other, and then let them kill each other. You don't suddenly go "Whoops! I just tortured a dog into violence, how the hell did that happen?" The NAACP must be hankering for press these days, to even consider condoning this act.

By all means, when he gets out let him have a job. He can do the jobs that other ex-felons do, such as over-the-road trucking, garbage collection, etc. If the NFL's stated policy is that convicted felons are not allowed to play (and I don't know if that's true or not) then he should not be allowed to play. Either way, allowing someone of Vick's obvious flaws to continue to operate in the league would further tarnish the NFL's (National Felon's League, anyone?) already substandard reputation.

"We further ask the NFL, Falcons, and the sponsors not to permanently ban Mr. Vick from his ability to bring hours of enjoyment to fans all over this country."

Right, because he couldn't be replaced in a minute, and no one would notice.

Bubbles 10 years, 1 month ago

I guess that blacks live by a different set of standards then the rest of society.

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