Archive for Monday, April 9, 2007

Baby goats go missing from farm

Owners say newborn kids being kidnapped

April 9, 2007


Bob Throop and Jeff Hill don't understand why, but they've been hit by a rash of kidnappings. And they want the public - and any would-be kidnappers - to know they've notified law enforcement and are beefing up security.

Bob Throop and Jeff Hill think someone is stealing young goats from their goat-raising enterprise northeast of Lawrence after some have gone missing without a trace.

Bob Throop and Jeff Hill think someone is stealing young goats from their goat-raising enterprise northeast of Lawrence after some have gone missing without a trace.

Farmers question disappearance of baby goats

They're just as curious as the animals they raise as 25 the newborn goats two local farmers raise have disappeared. Enlarge video

There have been no ransom demands. The FBI hasn't been notified.

Throop and Hill say they aren't even sure they want their kids back.

"It'd really be hard to raise them, now that they're off their mothers," Hill explained earlier this week.

Hill and Throop are partners in a goat-raising enterprise northeast of Lawrence. Since March 1, they estimate they've lost about 25 kids - young goats.

The two are certain the missing kids haven't been attacked and eaten by coyotes, bobcats or other wild critters looking for an easy meal.

"I'd feel better if it were a predator problem," Hill said.

"The four-legged predator," Throop quickly added.

The business partners are fairly certain the only predator stalking their kids is the two-legged variety.

If natural predators were to blame, Hill explained, they'd leave some sort of trail: blood or part of a carcass. It's also likely there'd be more than the youngest goats gone.

"We haven't seen as much as a scrap of hair," Hill said.

Instead, they suspect the animals are being taken and hand-fed while they await slaughter for some sort of religious rite. This time of year, young goats are part of religious meals and celebrations in many parts of Islam, Judaism and Christianity.

"Obviously there's a lot of cultures that eat goat," Throop said.

Hill said he suspected someone caught wind of how to make some quick money, found out where there was a goat operation and got busy.

"You figure at 40 to 50 bucks a pop, for those 20-plus kids, that's an easy grand," Hill said.

Both Hill and Throop think their goats have been targeted for some time. Hill said always in the past his goats were targeted for winter births. This marked the first time they've attempted kidding in the spring.

"I thought I was being really smart this year. It was our best kid crop ever; we hardly lost any of the mothers. It was relatively warm ... but we'd have been better off doing it in the winter," he said.

The missing kids have been taken within hours of birth - when the newborns are relatively sedate and don't move. After three days or so, they begin to get their legs and are difficult to corner by a human.

"You walk up to one of them right now, and you'd be hard-pressed to catch one of the buggers," Hill said.

Hill and Throop say the loss of the goats will have ill effects on their operation.

They planted acres of grass for the young goats to eat this year; now they have more grass than goats to eat it. Mothers, especially those giving birth to their second or later litters, have udders filled and no children to feed.

Most important, the newborn would have been the foundation for later herds.

"We'd have been happy to sell the males," Throop said.

The partners have notified the Leavenworth County Sheriff's Office about their loss, but there are no firm leads.

Their hope now is that anyone buying a young goat for an upcoming religious celebration or other event be sure they're buying from a reputable source.

Neither Throop nor Hill said they thought an end user was responsible for their missing goats.

"We're after the people who stole them, not the people who received them," Throop said. "We figure our goats are lost. But we'd certainly like to stop this from going on again. We just want to catch the person responsible."

Help wanted

¢ If you have information about the goats' whereabouts, call the Leavenworth County Sheriff's Office, (913) 682-5724.


Ragingbear 11 years, 1 month ago

Local Fraternities wanted for questioning.

x96merrill3 11 years, 1 month ago

This Just In



BikerGrandma 11 years, 1 month ago

Too hard to raise since they've been away from their mothers? Obviously you've not been raising goats for very long. Kids that are bottle-fed are much easier to deal with than those that are left to nurse on the mother. Also, I hope that these men are milking out the mothers that have lost their kids. Otherwise, they will have more problems than lost babies. These mothers need to be milked out and gradually left to dry up.

As to Ragingbear - local fraternities wouldn't take that many. Quit watching Animal House and get a life!

Sigmund 11 years, 1 month ago

In related news, Le Merc is running a special this week on fair trade, free range, locally grown goat roasts and chops.

Linda Endicott 11 years, 1 month ago

They'll probably find them chained to a post somewhere and painted green.

BikerGrandma 11 years, 1 month ago

Easier - no. But if you want a kid that is more friendly and easier to work with, a bottle fed kid is better. For those that show goats, the kids are pulled off and the mothers milked as they are judged on their bag.

geebee54 11 years, 1 month ago

Mexicans love BBQ'ed Cabrito (baby goat).

minko224 11 years, 1 month ago

Sexual acts with animals are generally condemned as "crime against nature" and/or animal abuse. Let us pray that this is not what is happening to these young innocent, quite attractive goats.

stopthenoise 11 years, 1 month ago

I am sure that hunters are to blame. Like the pigs, they released them to the wild for hunting. Atleast that's what the government will tell you. Step 2: Francisco and company will outlaw hunting goats in Kansas. Then the helicopter "gunship" will be brought in to gun them down!

minko224 11 years, 1 month ago

Or possibly they were removed to be disbudded, and will be returned shortly.

Christine Pennewell Davis 11 years, 1 month ago

All kidding aside, still trespassing and theft. Grandma I would say lazyness you know they just do not want to take the time to bottle feed is so much easier to feed mom and let them nurse.

Jamesaust 11 years, 1 month ago

I thought this an episode on "X-Files." But upon reflection I was thinking of "Bad Blood," the episode with exsanguinated cows and Luke Wilson as the local vampire sheriff that leaves Mulder and Scully with completely different recollections of how they managed to drive a stake through the heart of a boy wearing fake vampire teeth.

cantbelievemyeyes 11 years, 1 month ago

Bottle feeding is great if they are show animals. If they are goats meant to be sold or slaughtered, why would you want to get attached to them before selling or eating them? Do any of you have any idea how much time is involved in bottle feeding a goat especially if there are several of them? Keeping them with the mother is best. These goats are probably meant for livestock purposes not to be pets.

warthog 11 years, 1 month ago

When I first read the story, I thought it was a joke, but I can see they are not kidding.

This is news? Shouldn't this just be an item in the lost and found? Baaaaaaad reporting.

oldvet 11 years, 1 month ago

Hey... it's OK to come out of the woods now, kids... Passover is over... you're safe...

J Good Good 11 years, 1 month ago

Local support, if you live in Lawrence, you know Pagans, and they are as "good and normal" as anyone else. We don't all wear black and pentagrams, and if anything are more likely to be vegatarian than Christians.

farmgal 11 years, 1 month ago

BikerGrandma: "For those that show goats, the kids are pulled off and the mothers milked as they are judged on their bag." Geez! Maybe the goats should just get silicone implants so their bags would look exceptionally good when they are judged. Lord forbid that their bags should be simple used for what they were intended --to sustain life.

local_support 11 years, 1 month ago

People Against Goodness And Normalcy

Don't forget your goat leggings!

EXks 11 years, 1 month ago

If I were the owners I'd load my shotgun, watch and wait!

leadrain 11 years, 1 month ago

BIKERGRANDMA: Perhaps, they were watching " Revenge of the Nerds " Get a TV. Frats can be BAA-AAA-AAD !!!

pagan_idolator 11 years, 1 month ago

Local_support. Why dont you try reading a book some time. Like, say, the bible. I like the part where Noah is instructed by God to take along 7 animals that he was to keep away from all other animals, so they would be nice and pure when Noah found land and sacrificed them to God. Or how about Abel's blood offering? And take Cain - that was a blood offering of a different sort wasnt it? I guess God wasnt clear enough with old Cain was he? So maybe this means either God was a pagan or he was against goodness and normalcy. Why dont you try to behave as the pagans do and respect each person enough to let them choose their own religion? I dont feel the need to bash others religions. I guess they are smart enough to choose the religion without me having to decide for them. Modern pagans do not sacrifice animals any more than modern Christians sacrifice animals or their own children, siblings etc.

pagan_idolator 11 years, 1 month ago

I agree none2 - there is nothing worse than a Wiccan fundy. They really are not getting the true idea of the religion. You can tell them right away - they hate Christians - all Christians. They want to rant and rave about "The Burning Times". Well sorry to say this but that was more of a woman's holocaust than a witch's. Very few practicing the pagan religion at that time were killed. It was mostly unmarried women of means. See the Church got to keep all monies and lands. It was more about land and money acquisition than religion. If you want to read a truly horrid book tho check out the Maleus Maleficarum (The Witch's Hammer) Tells you all about finding, trying and killing witches. Creepy.

conservative 11 years, 1 month ago

Just to clarify since local_support hasn't come forward to do so. His post was a quote from the 80's dragnet movie featuring Tom Hanks and Dan Aykroyd. The acronym was also part of the movie. I seriously doubt he meant to offend pagans.

pagan_idolator 11 years, 1 month ago

Oops - you are probably right conservative - I may have jumped the gun on that one. Didnt see the movie so I had no idea. I guess you get so used to being attacked you see it everywhere you go. So - if that is the case local_support I apologize.

conservative 11 years, 1 month ago

Pagan, I understand completely. Too much intolerance for beliefs of others. My family runs the gammit of catholic, agnostic, methodist, and wiccan. Makes for some mighty entertaining holidays. :D

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