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Archive for Monday, September 25, 2006

Woman shot in police standoff

Chief says gunfire followed four hours of negotiations

September 25, 2006

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Lawrence Police shot a woman Sunday afternoon after a four-hour standoff at a mobile home park in northern Lawrence.

The shooting happened about 1:15 p.m. at trailer No. 107 at 110 N. Mich., witnesses said.

The woman shot at police at least twice during the hourslong standoff at the Mobile Village trailer park, police said.

"The individual in the trailer had threatened suicide, and we'd been here negotiating for a period of hours, and there was a shooting," Chief Ron Olin said Sunday at the scene of the shooting.

Police said the woman, 36, was in surgery Sunday at a Kansas City area hospital.

Standoff

The standoff began at 9:01 a.m. Sunday after the woman's mother asked police to check on her distressed daughter. When a police officer arrived at the door, he heard a gunshot come from inside the trailer.

Cameron Jackson, age 12, who lives four trailers down, was playing football in the area around that time. He said he saw an officer knock on the trailer's door and that the woman inside answered by shooting out a window.

"She started going ballistic: 'Get away from the house, I'll shoot again,'" Cameron said.

The officer called for emergency help, police said. In the next few hours, witnesses said, police could be seen and heard negotiating with the woman and gathering what looked like a SWAT team in the neighborhood. Police evacuated people from neighboring trailers.

Bystanders pace the scene of a Sunday shooting in the Mobile Village trailer park at 110 N. Mich. The shooting of a 36-year-old woman followed an hourslong standoff with police.

Bystanders pace the scene of a Sunday shooting in the Mobile Village trailer park at 110 N. Mich. The shooting of a 36-year-old woman followed an hourslong standoff with police.

Off-duty officers responded first, and officers on the scene called for trained negotiators, trying to calm the woman.

"They kept : calling her by her name," said Sylvia Williams, who lives in a neighboring trailer. "They were like, 'We just want to make sure you're OK. Can you come out with your hands up?' and she wouldn't do it."

Residents of the park said that around 1:15 p.m. they heard a quick series of shots - some say it was two, others say three. Police said the woman walked out of the brown and white trailer and used a handgun to shoot at officers.

"I heard a boom, boom, boom - just three shots," neighbor Cherie Marshall said.

Cameron, the neighbor boy, said after that, he heard just one shot and saw the woman fall down.

Neighbor Lorie Meacham said that she saw the woman being removed from the area on a stretcher and that she wasn't moving at the time.

The woman was taken by air ambulance to a Kansas City hospital, where she underwent surgery for a gunshot wound.

'Rare occurrence'

Police Capt. David Cobb said negotiations during such crisis situations typically end peacefully.

"We have done so many, many times," Cobb said. "This is a very rare occurrence for us."

Cobb said the Douglas County Sheriff's Office and the Kansas Bureau of Investigation would look into the incident. Police departments typically don't investigate shootings by their own officers.

Police plan a news conference at 10 a.m. today when they will provide more information about the incident.

Cobb refused to release the names of the officers involved or any other details about the shooting.

According to Lawrence Police Department policy, any time an officer fires a gun outside of training or shooting an animal, it is considered lethal force.

"The discharge of a firearm in the line of duty is an irreversible action and one of the most critical decisions a police officer can make," the policy says.

Different kinds and levels of force are permitted according to the threat that police think a person poses to them.

The use of force policy identifies such threats as "overt, hostile attacking movements : with the intent and apparent ability to cause imminent death or bodily harm."

After any police shooting, officers can get trauma counseling from mental health providers, the policy says.

Lawrence Police were involved in a shooting on April 21, 1991, when Gregory Sevier was shot and killed at his home by two Lawrence police officers after his mother called 911 and reported that her son had locked himself in his bedroom and was carrying a knife.

Comments

Eride 8 years, 3 months ago

"Sad; a replay of the Greg Sevier case, in some ways."

How so? This case involved a lady stepping outside of her trailer and shooting off 3 rounds at police officers. The other case you referenced involved a table knife. The former incident obviously posed a reasonable threat to not only the officers on the scene but everyone in the neighborhood. The latter incident only really posed a threat to the kid.

Where is the connection? Other then someone died in both cases...

oldgoof 8 years, 3 months ago

I agree, Vern Millers drug busts were a crime.

adky 8 years, 3 months ago

Unfortunately the lady died. LPD can blow the smoke from their guns and add another to death to their record......

Protect and serve? Laughable!

jayhawkster 8 years, 3 months ago

Meth makes even the most mundane chores interesting.

Christine Pennewell Davis 8 years, 3 months ago

well she is gone now my condolence to her family and to the officer that shot her. It is not easy to live with.

adky 8 years, 3 months ago

Other police departments have dogs trained to take down people with guns. You risk losing the dog, but save a human life. But that is far too sensible for LPD. The department is infested with an element that is obsessed with being tough and cool.

cowboy 8 years, 3 months ago

adky , youre an idiot , tell us the other ways this can be dealt with , wait for her to pop a family member or mental health worker , let her fire off rounds thru the paper thin trailer and wound someone else blocks away. i worked suicide prevention for 8 years , there are some who are going to get it done no matter what you do , sad but true.

Sigmund 8 years, 3 months ago

Name a single police department whose policy is to use dogs trained to take down people with guns who are shooting at police and have you informed PETA?

as_I_live_and_breathe 8 years, 3 months ago

she threatened to commit suicide so the cops came a shot her? Well, I suppose that is one way to prevent suicide.....

Sigmund 8 years, 3 months ago

I think she was shot for shooting at police, you idiot.

daddax98 8 years, 3 months ago

"She started going ballistic"

that is just funny, I hope that kid used that choice of words intentionaly...but I doubt it

Sacerdotal 8 years, 3 months ago

Sad; a replay of the Greg Sevier case, in some ways.

cantheman 8 years, 3 months ago

My prayers are with the family and friends.

Grundoon Luna 8 years, 3 months ago

Sevier was killed for having a table knife. It is ridiculous to believe there was no way that could have been resovled without killing him.

aeroscout17 8 years, 3 months ago

Sorry this ended this way but everyone needs to remember a very important fact: The police aren't paid to be shot at. They have family and friends that they want to go home to after the shift. Always keep that in mind. What would you have done differently if someone came out shooting at you?

Linda Endicott 8 years, 3 months ago

I think you'd have to get too close to use a taser.

as_I_live_and_breathe 8 years, 3 months ago

I learned early on to stay away from people with guns. If she wanted to end her life, what business is it of the cops? why call them in the first place?

adky 8 years, 3 months ago

Sigmund - there are many PDs who do just that. Ever tried firing a gun with 90 pounds of police K9 chewing your arm and wrestling you to the ground? LPD takes no notice of most public opinion, so why would they be worried about PETA?

There are other ways of dealing with these situations. LPD needs to get over the tough cop issue and start serving the community....

whatdoyouthink 8 years, 3 months ago

EMPATHY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

whatdoyouthink 8 years, 3 months ago

empathy (mp-th) n.

Direct identification with, understanding of, and vicarious experience of another person's situation, feelings, and motives.

Sigmund 8 years, 3 months ago

adky, perhaps you were thinking of McGruff the crime fighting dog? You are an idiot.

rayikeo 8 years, 3 months ago

"SUICIDE BY COP" if there ever was one, this is it. Too bad she forced to police into it!

Sigmund 8 years, 3 months ago

Maybe, could be, if only if, might have been. Pull a knife, shoot a gun, call the cops, suicide done.

Lets face it folks, the police were called and responded to these scenes in part to protect the public and their own family from these people. In the future I suggest the LPD simply let the family, friends and the critics who post to this forum deal with these situations.

What is really sad is that some posters to this forum really believe that this case demonstrates that the police mishandled the Greg Sevier case of over a decade ago. Talk about living in the past. What next this case resembles Quantrils raid, the Little Big Horn, and the Vern Miller drug busts in the 70's? The only similarity between to the Greg Sevier case appears to be the mentally ill committing or attempting to commit suicide by police.

monkeyspunk 8 years, 3 months ago

adky, if the LPD listened to your suggestions more people would have been shot. Person comes out of a structure shooting a gun, and you want to call in the DOGS?!?!?! Idiot.

Where do you keep these magical able to disarm a pistol carrying suspect in less than the time it takes for him to shoot people canines at? Hmmm? Next to your unicorns or sasquatches?

The officer and the department should be commended for their activity. Considering the situation and surroundings, we are very lucky more people didn't get hurt. Well done.

whatdoyouthink 8 years, 3 months ago

Posted by jayhawkster (anonymous) on September 25, 2006 at 10:56 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Meth makes even the most mundane chores interesting.

I don't remember reading anything in the story about METH????????

You know.... there might be people reading this that personally knew Marsha. That might have been related to Marsha.

Why don't you try and conduct yourself in a better fashion.

Show some EMPATHY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

goodguy24 8 years, 3 months ago

Why Doesn't the LPD have TASERS>??? A taser could have possibly been a good option, but she shot at officers.. so they made a decision to use lethal force.. My prayers go out to her family.

schweppy 8 years, 3 months ago

First of all, a TASER would not be the response to someone who is shooting at officers with a handgun. It can reach a person who is withing 20ft. of the officer firing the weapon and is effective in knocking the person to the ground. If someone is shooting lethal rounds at you, you do not want to be returning non-lethal force and risk that the prongs of the taser miss the suspect and allow them to fire more rounds. The police acted according to policy while it is unfortunate that they had to end a life. However, it is important to remember that when police get in this situation, they are the ones who are going home to thier families at the end of the shift. Not the person who decides to put thier life at risk while they are serving the community.

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