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Kline to hold press conference at Tiller’s clinic
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November 6, 2006
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Wichita — Atty. Gen. Phill Kline will hold a press conference Monday night at the clinic of Wichita abortion doctor George Tiller.
His campaign sent out the following press release Monday evening:
IMMEDIATE RELEASE
Nov. 6, 2006
Attorney General Phill Kline will hold a news conference this evening at 7:30 following the first half of The O'Reilly Factor hosted by Bill O'Reilly. He will discuss his office's investigation into alleged cases of child rape, failure to report rape, incest, violations of our state's late-term abortions, and other possible crimes.
Location:
Women's Health Care Services
5107 East Kellogg, Wichita
UPDATE: The Associated Press reported after 8 p.m. it would not move a story from the press conference; no new announcements were made during the press conference, AP said.
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Marion (Marion Lynn) says…
This ought to be interesting.
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6 November 2006
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gccs14r (Anonymous) says…
Maybe Wichita PD can arrest Kline for divulging patient records to O'Reilly.
6 November 2006
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manofleisure (Anonymous) says…
Just when you thought he couldn't… he does. A new low for our spelled-wrong Phill.
6 November 2006
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just_another_bozo_on_this_bus (Anonymous) says…
I bet this has absolutely nothing to do with the election tomorrow.
6 November 2006
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Marion (Marion Lynn) says…
I wouldn't be too certain about who gets tossed.
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6 November 2006
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Agnostick (Anonymous) says…
Marion, I'm going to guess that you're going to cling to the safe, secure ambiguity of that last post? :D
6 November 2006
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white_mountain (Anonymous) says…
Why didn't he just have Morrison arrested?
(or will that happen tomorrow after people see through his transparent 11th hour BS)
6 November 2006
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willie_wildcat (Anonymous) says…
Right thinker- I will have a good nights sleep. I am one that fully supports the right to choose. I feel that some right wing trying to legislate certain parts of my anatomy is just wrong. How would you feel if it was the other way around? Probably would not be an issue I suspect
6 November 2006
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white_mountain (Anonymous) says…
Bye Bye Kline.
Most Kansans have had enough of your religious crusade.
6 November 2006
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Agnostick (Anonymous) says…
right_thinker: I couldn't help but notice how you danced around that issue when I brought it up in another thread. ;)
Personally, I don't think it's all Hollywood special effects—but I know that an abortion procedure isn't the only place one could procure a human fetus…
Meanwhile… is anybody covering this publicity stu—uuhhhh, I mean press conference… live?
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6 November 2006
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EvaTrujillo (Anonymous) says…
I wonder if Ms Kline wishes that she had had a choice.
Seriously, most U.S. Citizens (note not Americans, can't speak for the Americans north of the U.S or the ones south of the U.S), so MOST U.S. citizens are pro-choice. Does it make it right, like when most U.S citizens were for slavery? Who knows? We know slaves were treated badly, very badly and that was clearly wrong. Fetuses, we're less sure about. One theory is their souls will come back in other bodies as part of the life-cycle, and they will be that much closer to attaining enlightenment. The good thing is they don't suffer as long as humans in capitivity.
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Agnostick (Anonymous) says…
This is about as “last-minute” as you can get… The LJW report above says the press release was sent out Monday evening. I've noticed that there isn't any mention of this press conference, on either the official KSAG web site, or Kline's campaign web site.
http://www.accesskansas.org/ksag/Pres…
http://www.klineforag.com/news
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oldgranny (Anonymous) says…
Morrison is going to win no doubt. But something tells me that even if it is a landslide we haven't heard the last of loony Phill yet. I can't imagine that he will go down in defeat very easily. He probably has something up his sleeve.
6 November 2006
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Bubarubu (Anonymous) says…
I was amused by O'Reilly's description of the race as “tight”. A 13-point lead is um…less than tight.
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Agnostick (Anonymous) says…
oldgranny makes a good point. Even if Morrison wins tomorrow, he doesn't actually go to work for another eight weeks or so.
Eight weeks is a long time for somebody like Phill to pull all sorts of shenanigans…
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75x55 (Anonymous) says…
Hmm….. nothing like going out with a bang, eh?
Wonder if it will be anything really interesting?
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willie_wildcat (Anonymous) says…
right thinker- yes I have I was in KCK and saw one of the scare trucks your kind likes to use to frighten people into thinking abortion is evil. The pictures did not bother me in facht I thought it was sad that they resort to such tactics. It is better than a wire hanger in a back alley that is for sure. Or did you forget that that was the only way that women could get an abortin before it was made safe and legal?
I guess that the “unborn” are more important to you than the those that are walking and breathing huh?
Most people have had it with Phil's little crusade and I will proudly voting for Paul Morrison tommorrow.
6 November 2006
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tell_it_like_it_is (Anonymous) says…
What a media whore. This guy missed his calling. He needs to go be a TV preacher.
6 November 2006
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Agnostick (Anonymous) says…
Wow… Megan Mosack returns to TV.
The plot gets thicker by the minute…
What, I wonder, is the financial benefit for WIBW-AM (and parent company Morris Communications, of Georgia) to put Phill back in office for four more years?
Or is this just an AM radio ratings stunt?
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srj (Anonymous) says…
FYI Supreme Court gets the late turm abortion appeal on Wed. So it will be outlawed, even in case of rape or health of mother.
Kline will lose.
6 November 2006
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Agnostick (Anonymous) says…
Abortion is the “crown jewel of the Democratic party?”
Oh please, Megan…
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tell_it_like_it_is (Anonymous) says…
Abortion is the “crown jewel of the Democratic party?” Hell I think its the crown jewel of the GOP. If it wasn't for that and gay marriage W's ratings would be down to about 10%.
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SpeedRacer (Anonymous) says…
The associated press saw it for what it was, a publicity stunt, and won't move a story as Kline said nothing new in the “press conference”.
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Agnostick (Anonymous) says…
SpeedRacer says:
“The associated press saw it for what it was, a publicity stunt, and won't move a story as Kline said nothing new in the 'press conference.'”
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That sounds suspiciously like “insider information,” SpeedRacer…
Clue me in! ;)
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SpeedRacer (Anonymous) says…
Agnosick, It's the update at the top of this page.
6 November 2006
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nugget (Anonymous) says…
This is like a highlight clip from a “Best of Jerry Springer”, only it's real. Amazing.
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SpeedRacer (Anonymous) says…
Sorry, that's Agnostick, completely unintentional.
6 November 2006
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SpeedRacer (Anonymous) says…
I wonder how much evidence Megan has and whether she will still be at WIBW tomorrow…
6 November 2006
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drewdun (Anonymous) says…
Just when you thought they couldn't get any lower and any more desperate…
And I'm glad rt shows his true spirit of wanting to imprison anyone who disagrees with his political viewpoints. Fascist slime.
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Agnostick (Anonymous) says…
I'm sure Megan will be lending a hand to all her favorite theocrats well into the future… courtesy of the WIBW-AM airwaves.
The sadder aspect for those folks is, the WIBW-AM news folks are actually pretty decent, objective journalists—but I've heard some of them participate on the afternoon show.
How might this taint the credibility of wibw-am News? To have staffers right down the hall that are clearly paid employees of the Kansas Republican Party, Evangelical Empire Wing?
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SpeedRacer (Anonymous) says…
Just to clarify, I think Tiller is quite possibly scum, but there are infinitely more abortion clinics in other states, and some which are probably more reprehensible. The only reason this is getting O'Reilly's attention is that he is the whore of the extreme right and was likely recruited to help Kline out. He also didn't waste any time defaming the KC Star and Wichita Eagle in his rantings which have both come out against the Republican incumbants.
6 November 2006
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Machiavelli_mania (Anonymous) says…
From a ProKanDo newsletter, an org where I put a good portion of my tithing:
Last night, Attorney General Phill Kline announced to the Associated Press that he received the medical records he's been fishing for, after spending two years and countless amounts of taxpayer dollars.
Kline announced that his office is reviewing the records for possible crimes including rape of a child, incest and potentially illegal late-term abortions. Kline stated that there are criminal investigators and prosecutors reviewing the records currently and are looking for instances of criminal abortions.
Kline stated in his press release, “Those medical records are being reviewed by criminal prosecutors and investigators in my office. I want to remind Kansans that women and children are not and never will be under investigation- only abortion doctors, confirming doctors and rapists are under investigation.”
The article from the Lawrence Journal World and Kline's press release both fail to mention that just a handful of the 90 records involved minors.
Kline has flip-flopped on his reasons for seeking these medical records. He originally stated that the records were going to be used to prosecute child rapists. However, most of the records subpoenaed were from adult women.
Additionally, Kline has flip-flopped in his report of when he received the 90 medical records. Kline reported in early October that he had already reviewed medical records from the original subpoena. Now, Kline is stating that his office received the records only in the last week.
It is clear that the attorney general wishes to exploit women's rights to further his own political agenda by pilfering through medical records that contain the most personal aspects of a woman's life.
ProKanDo needs your help in order to defeat Phill Kline and his political opportunism.
Thank you for standing up for women's rights in Kansas and beyond.
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SpeedRacer (Anonymous) says…
right_thinker, I will happily help get you to the polls. I may not agree with your politics, but I strongly believe that everyone who is eligible should vote.
6 November 2006
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Machiavelli_mania (Anonymous) says…
Another ProKanDo newsletter, give em money to fight FEEL Kline!:
On Friday, November 3rd, Attorney General Phill Kline appeared on the Fox News show, The O'Reilly Factor. The topic of this program focused on the Kansas courts granting Kline access to the 90 medical records from abortion clinics in Kansas.
Bill O'Reilly claimed that a “source inside” the medical records case told Fox News that the justifications for late-term abortion were unfounded and that the clinics are not reporting instances of child rape. Kline claimed no one in his office has been an informant to Fox News. Kline's spokeswoman stated that she believes the source comes from someone inside one of the abortion clinics.
Attorneys from Dr. Tiller's clinic have filed a complaint with the Kansas Supreme Court to investigate comments that Kline and O'Reilly made that alluded to information obtained through the abortion records. The attorneys for the abortion clinics are also asking that a special prosecutor take possession of the medical records to protect women's private information included in the medical records.
I encourage you to watch the segments featured on Fox News and observe the lies being perpetuated by the extreme right wing:
PART 1: Bill O'Reilly interview with pro-choice advocate
PART 2: Bill O'Reilly interview with Phill Kline
O'Reilly's show claims that they have been conducting an investigation on Dr. Tiller's clinic for over a year.
The legality of this issue is still under question. The Kansas City Star reported that is was unclear whether O'Reilly has broken state and federal laws by revealing patient information and alluding that his staff has viewed the records themselves.
It is clear that Kline's campaign will stop at nothing to invade women's private lives.
ProKanDo will continue its work to ensure Kline's defeat in tomorrow's election and ensure the right to privacy for women across Kansas and beyond..
Sincerely,
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TJ_in_Lawrence (Anonymous) says…
So lets see. I guess that 85 sherriffs in the State of Kansas are all right wing religious fanatics? Seems to me that if the law men on the street think Phil is best for the job, that should mean something.
6 November 2006
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Machiavelli_mania (Anonymous) says…
This Missing LINKS At Fox: (hee, hee, hee, I imagine there are more than two. Don't you?)
PART 1: Bill O'Reilly interview with pro-choice advocate
http://www.foxnews.com/video2/player0… ctor&Tiller%20the%20Baby%20Killer%20part%201&acc&US&324&News&329&&&new
PART 2: Bill O'Reilly interview with Phill Kline
http://www.foxnews.com/video2/player0… actor&Tiller%20the%20Baby%20Killer%20part%202&acc&US&324&News&292&&&new
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SpeedRacer (Anonymous) says…
TJ, that is 84, one switched. I am not sure who suggested that the sheriffs were right wing religious fanatics. I don't agree with that assessment. Historically, law enforcement has always supported those who make their jobs easier.
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Agnostick (Anonymous) says…
Pandering to the illegal aliens again, Patriotman?
“Make a run for the border!”
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fletch (Anonymous) says…
“So lets see. I guess that 85 sherriffs in the State of Kansas are all right wing religious fanatics?”
Yeah…. pretty much. I got pulled over in Garden City and the deputy sheriff asked me if I was Christian. Point blank. And it wasn't just cute making conversation talk. He was really weighing the matter.
6 November 2006
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Machiavelli_mania (Anonymous) says…
Yeh, and those sherriffs listen to country music, not exacrtly a thinking man's form of music. Everytime they call, all they offer is country music tickets amid their dubious extortion attempts, trading you a car sticker for all to see, including them, in exchange for money. Hmmmm! And we are supposed to respect these sherriffs? Not me. Not as a group.
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Machiavelli_mania (Anonymous) says…
Garden City? Just tell him you just got here from Mexico, living with your cousin, and you have not decided if you are Christian yet. LOL
Funny he would be more concerned about you being Christian than whether or not you actually had insurance.
6 November 2006
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SpeedRacer (Anonymous) says…
Patriotman, better to kill and eat them as babies than let them starve to death later under Republicans.
6 November 2006
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Machiavelli_mania (Anonymous) says…
Amen
Give to ProKanDo.
Night all.
6 November 2006
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SpeedRacer (Anonymous) says…
Republikaner nehmen Sie zum Krieg.
6 November 2006
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Agnostick (Anonymous) says…
Machiavelli_mania…
Agreed on country music… at least, what passes for “country music” today.
Bluegrass, on the other hand… is a completely different matter.
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SpeedRacer (Anonymous) says…
Enough of beating Kline, I'm going to look for a Ryan thread.
go to polls tomorrow, patriots!
6 November 2006
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consvdem (Anonymous) says…
Is that a privately owned clinic? Could Kline be arrested for trespassing? I somehow doubt that he got the owner's permission.
6 November 2006
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cait48 (Anonymous) says…
Kansas has 105 counties. This means there are at least 21 sherriffs that haven't stopped that low.
6 November 2006
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HMcMellon (Anonymous) says…
“Tiller and his supporters ought to be imprisoned the minute Kline wins this election tomorrow.”
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And as soon as Phill has Tiller and all those 90 women in prison, Kline should move on to take on the masterbaters. Those lousy half-baby killers!
Grab your sword, Phill, and prepare to chase more windmills if Kansans are foolish enough to allow a nutcase like you to continue to pretend to be Attorney General.
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Lifesupport (Anonymous) says…
To all of you who feel that the pre-born babies are not human, alive, etc. and therefore not worthy of society's protection, I want you to know what my son wrote. He was writing in response to embryonic stem cell research, but what he says about blastocysts also applies to fetuses.
“There is a difference between an embryo and a fully developed human. It must be understood, however, that the differences are not essential differences but only differences of appearance. Every human being is “a fertilized egg” or “a collection of cells” scientifically speaking. The visible differences are only due to the degree of development, not to a change in essence.
Being human is not the result of reaching a certain level of developmentan achievement which could be lost due to old age, an accident, or a number of factors. Being human means having a body and a spirit created in the image and likeness of God.
Because the difference between a blastocyst and an infant or between a blastocyst an adult is only one of degree of development and not of essence, blastocysts must be afforded the legal protection due to any human being. Therefore, it is not permissible to kill them even in the hope of obtaining some good. We cannot do evil in order to bring about good.”
I know some of you will flip out over the image and likeness of God reference, but belief in a higher power or a spiritual being does not make us right wing religious nut cases. It is simply that our faith and spiritual practice calls us to care for the most defenseless and vulnerable among us.
6 November 2006
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Machiavelli_mania (Anonymous) says…
Kline supported State Board of Education members to place anti-evolution stickers on biology textbooks.
Kline pursued the private medical records of 90 women who received abortion services in Kansas.
Kline spent hundreds of thousands of dollars on outside legal counsel during his high-profile court cases.
Kline has spent years trying to change Kansas's law regarding what constitutes illegal sexual activity between teenagers.
Kline views the church, not as a place for worship, but as a bully pulpit for garnering votes and high dollar contributors.
Kline has not received the support or endorsement of former attorneys general from the state of Kansas.
Kline has done nothing as chief law enforcement officer for the state; rather, he has used his time in office to polish himself as a professional politician.
6 November 2006
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Machiavelli_mania (Anonymous) says…
And I am sure you understand that just because I think all women should have access to legal, medically-safe abortions, it doesn't necessarily make me a non-Christian.
“Life” is not the ultimate condition.
Why are you so eager to pull all those souls away from God, where they were happily merged, at one, with God?
I don't see that as a virtue in you, thinking that LIFE is all there is.
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Marion (Marion Lynn) says…
Bad news.
Life IS all there is.
Thanks.
Marion.
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Lifesupport (Anonymous) says…
willie_wildcat writes: “right thinker- yes I have I was in KCK and saw one of the scare trucks your kind likes to use to frighten people into thinking abortion is evil. The pictures did not bother me in facht (sic) I thought it was sad that they resort to such tactics. It is better than a wire hanger in a back alley that is for sure. Or did you forget that that was the only way that women could get an abortin (sic) before it was made safe and legal?
I guess that the “unborn” are more important to you than the those that are walking and breathing huh?”
You should know that the wire hangar in the back alley is more of myth than reality, more of a symbol than actual practice. Illegal abortions were done by certain doctors or other medical personnel on the side or after hours of their legitimate business. Legalization of abortion did not really raise the standard of care all that much.
It is a sad day when someone can look at a picture of a tiny human being torn apart on the side of a truck and not think it is evil. The truth hurts even if you try to deny it. Do you object to the news media showing other graphic images of war and disasters also?
The unborn are not more important to me than walking and breathing people, but I am not callous to their plight either. Pro-lifers have sent up more pregnancy resource centers to help women (free of charge) carry their babies to term than Planned Parenthood and the National Abortion Federation. PP and NAF could really help mothers before and after birth with the millions they get every year from the government. However, their abortion business seems more important to them than perinatal care and adoption referrals. Check their annual report numbers to see for yourself.
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morganalefay (Anonymous) says…
Patriotman, you wrote: “Krieg errichtet Buchstaben”
Eh? War constructs letters (as in the alphabet)? What did you put through Babelfish???
And what's all that about putting babies in ovens?
6 November 2006
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KEITHMILES05 (Anonymous) says…
This has nothing to do with abortion. It has everything to do with Kline and politics and his OWN personal beliefs.
6 November 2006
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just_another_bozo_on_this_bus (Anonymous) says…
Is this one of those “Emily Litella” moments?
6 November 2006
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just_another_bozo_on_this_bus (Anonymous) says…
I think P-man has gone beyond just being a nonsensical “conservative,” and has gone straight-up nonsensical on us.
7 November 2006
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GOPConservative (Anonymous) says…
The extremists who are posting all the hyperbole above don't really care about abortion. They are only using the abortion issue as a smokescreen to promote fascism.
In fact, one of their own, Congressman Jim Ryun, made $300,000 in profit from criminal enterprises that included those that forced young girls into prostitution and then forced them to have abortions when Jim Ryun's clients made them pregnant.
You don't see any of the Phill Kline extremists above promoting the idea that their brother extremist Jim Ryun should sell that tainted real estate and give his $300,000 in abortion profits to the poor young girls he helped abuse.
http://cjonline.com/stories/052106/lo…
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/…
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/st…
Clearly, the issue for these extremists is NOT abortion. It is fascism.
The issue for the voters is whether or not we want to let Phill Kline get away with violating the American principle of “probable cause.” This issue is whether we want to help Kline promote his fascist agenda of destroying basic Constitutional guarantees.
In America, government investigators are not allowed to search everyone's home to see if any of them have stolen merchandise, nor can they search everyone's private medical records to determine if anyone committed a crime.
In order to search private property or private information, the investigator must provide probable cause to the courts regarding the specific person who is the subject of the investigation. Anything short of this is fascism.
Fishing expeditions may be okay for the secret police in Communist China, but they have no place in the United States, especially in the Free State.
Vote for Paul Morrison and against the anti-American fascist, Phill Kline.
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xenophonschild (Anonymous) says…
GOPConservative:
Good post. You said all I intended to. They don't want to admit to fascism, but that's what they are; that's what they're about.
Maybe Kline can get on as a second-string fundamentalist preacher at a apostolic church somewhere in Topeka.
7 November 2006
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Agnostick (Anonymous) says…
Morning headlines…
http://www.kansas.com/mld/kansas/news…
http://www.cjonline.com/stories/11070…
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acg (Anonymous) says…
Hehhee, just when you thought rightthinker couldn't get any more full of crap, you come along to this thread and see the heaping piles all around him. You're an idiot, to the nth degree.
Phill Kline is a sad, little man with a little man complex. He has to invade the privacy of others to make himself feel important. He reminds me of a small child that feels as if he's not getting enough attention so he has to create some sort of drama. I can't wait to vote against him today. I can't wait to see him lose this election. What a scumbag!!
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Lifesupport (Anonymous) says…
“And I am sure you understand that just because I think all women should have access to legal, medically-safe abortions, it doesn't necessarily make me a non-Christian.” – Machiavelli_mania
Just because abortion is legal does not make it safe. I just read of another abortuary being evicted in Chicago. The doctor is in trouble with the Board of Healing Arts. Not the kind of guy you want doing abortions. He isn't the first abortionists to have his license revoked or suspended. Abortion doctors aren't the cream of the crop and the legal procedure has maimed a multitude of women.
“Life” is not the ultimate condition.
Why are you so eager to pull all those souls away from God, where they were happily merged, at one, with God? – Machiavelli_mania
We all are going to die someday but that does not give human beings the right to kill other people especially the most innocent and vulnerable among us.
I do not know how you can call yourself Christian and not denounce the evil of abortion.